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Consider that we live in at least three
  worlds.


                                  Emerging world


                   ...
Some of you will live and work one
  world, some in two, and some in all
  three.

                             Emerging w...
In your hearts, set apart
          Christ as Lord. Always be
          prepared to give an answer to
          everyone w...
A story about a
book-release
party…
Hi Brian (do you prefer to be
called brian?) this is april, the
harpist from your book signing
party. i read your book thi...
i don't want to burden you (i
understand you listen to a lot of
people every day!) so im not
sure... but i really need to ...
like i said to you last night,
recently i have been feeling like
I want to become a christian,
and maybe even start going ...
… i get so angry (and i dont
know why, because i havent
had any overly negative
experiences with the church)
and i get the...
its so frustrating for me,
because i feel like i dont owe
christianity any breaks and that
it deserves the tough
microscop...
when i was reading your book today
at certain parts i felt so good, and
at certain times i actually felt like i
was about ...
i guess thats probably why i
asked you what i did last night.
i need to make sure that im not
being "lured in", just to fi...
and then my whole person
will change and ill become
closed minded and bigoted
and brainwashed and
everything bad... i just...
oh well. at the very least, i
really enjoyed reading your
book…
it met me at every corner.
that was frustrating, in a
way, but in a healthy way,
like eating veggies or
something. ill try...
Several months passed with
questions about
… the Bible …
Genocide in the Bible …
How Christians treat certain types
of peo...
hi brian,

I just got up from a _three and a half_
hour nap (taken immediately after i
returned home from church). i was
t...
i had a dream during my nap that i
wanted to tell you about. Im not one
to get really excited by dreams or
anything like t...
for some reason, out of the blue
(though in the dream,it didnt feel like it
was out of the blue) you poured
FREEZING cold ...
i said to you "i have been
thinking about this for awhile,
but wasn't sure i was ready",
and you said "youve been
ready fo...
then i guess there was sort of
a dream segue type thing, and
i was sitting with my friend
kate, who at the last minute
can...
then i remembered: wait a
second, theres no turning back
now, jesus wouldnt have done
this, and you have no right to.
and ...
then i woke up. i dont know...
it just really affected me, ive
felt like ive been on the verge
of tears (happy tears) sinc...
They Like Jesus but not the Church

                      Dan Kimball
1.The church is an organized
  religion with a political agenda.

       The church is an organized
   community with a he...
2. The church is judgmental and
negative.



       The church is a positive agent of
   change loving others as Jesus wou...
3. The church is dominated by
males and oppresses females.

   The church holds women in the highest
respect and includes ...
4. The church is homophobic.

    The church is a loving and
      welcoming community.
5. The church arrogantly claims
all other religions are wrong.



 The church is respectful of other
      people’s belief...
6. The church is full of
fundamentalists who take the
Bible literally.


    The church holds beliefs with
        humilit...
What they wish:
1. I wish church were not just
a sermon or lecture but a
discussion.
2. I wish church would
respect my intelligence.
3. I wish church weren’t
about the church building.
4. I wish church were less
programmed and would
allow more time to think and
pray.
5. I wish the church were
a loving place.
6. I wish church cared for
the poor and the
environment.
7. I wish the church
taught more about Jesus.
From Dave Kinneman & Gabe Lyons

Non-Christians aged 16-29 years old were
asked, What is your current perception of
Christ...
a poem by sam
shoemaker
I stand by the door.

I neither go too far in, nor
stay too far out,

The door is the most
important door in the world
--
...
They creep along like blind
men,

With outstretched, groping
hands.

Feeling for a door, knowing
there must be a door,

Ye...
The most tremendous thing
in the world

Is for men to find that door -
the door to God.

The most important thing
any man ...
The latch that only clicks

And opens to the man’s own
touch.

Men die outside that door

As starving beggars die,

On col...
They live, on the other side
of it - live because they have
not found it.

Nothing else matters
compared to helping them
f...
There’s no use my going way inside,
and staying there,

When so many are still outside and
they, as much as I,

Crave to k...
Go in, great saints, go all the
way in -

Go way down into the
cavernous cellars,

And way up into the
spacious attics -

...
Go into the deepest of hidden
casements,

Of withdrawal, of silence, of sainthood.

Some must inhabit those inner rooms,

...
Sometimes I take a deeper
look in,

Sometimes venture in a little
farther;

But my place seems closer
to the opening…

So ...
There is another reason why I stand
there.

Some people get part way in and
become afraid

Lest God and the zeal of His ho...
And want to get out. “Let me out!”
they cry.

And the people way inside terrify them
more.

Somebody must be by the door t...
Somebody must be watching for the
frightened

Who seek to sneak out just where they
came in,

To tell them how much better...
Somebody must watch for those who
have entered the door,But would like to
run away. So for them, too,

I stand by the door...
The people who have not yet even
found the door,

Or the people who want to run away
again from God.

You can go in too de...
As for me, I shall take my old accustomed
place,

Near enough to God to hear Him, and
know He is there,

But not so far fr...
But - more important for me -

One of them, two of them, ten of
them.

Whose hands I am intended to put
on the latch.

So ...
So I stand by the door.



(Samuel Moor Shoemaker, 1893 -
1963)
So I stand by the door.



(Samuel Moor Shoemaker, 1893 -
1963)
Reflections:

1. Get out more. Get a life outside of
   church work. Be in contact with
   normal people.

2. Serve people...
4. Talk freely and naturally about your
   spiritual life - not excessively, not
   using religious jargon. Be “naturally
...
7. Stand by the door … stay close to
   people outside the church.



What if the best experiences of your life
  are ahea...
Forget about Evangelism …


    And concentrate on
     making disciples.
What is a disciple?
 Not just someone who believes
        in Jesus to go to heaven
                     someday …


But s...
So, before we “convert” others, we
must be converted ourselves -
from doing evangelism to making
disciples of Jesus …


  ...
1. The relational factor:
Count conversations, not just conversions.

See evangelism as a relational dance, not a
win/lose...
In many places today, people will not become
  Christians unless they meet and get to know a
  Christian and Christian com...
2. The narrative factor:
It’s about their story, your story, and God’s
story.

We must begin by asking questions,
listenin...
When Christian faith presents itself as a
system of belief, postmodern people are often
skeptical.

But when it presents i...
3. The communal factor:

The greatest hermeneutic [interpretation] of the
gospel is a community that lives by it.
(Newbigi...
How can we create safe places?

What makes our churches unsafe?
4. The process or journey factor:

Instead of “evangelism/follow-up” or
“decision/discipleship,” think disciple-
making --...
The disciple-making process with April
began when I noticed her and helped her in a
practical, down-to-earth way … and it
...
5. The Holy Spirit factor

Believe that God is already “out there” and at
work with everyone (either trying to get in,
or ...
Helping people interpret their spiritual
experiences … as “spiritual consultants.”

Helping people have spiritual experien...
6. The learning factor

See evangelism as part of your discipleship,
not just the other person’s.

Remember Cornelius (Act...
How can we experience conversion through
evangelism?
7. The service factor:

The words of the gospel must be
accompanied by the deeds and spirit of the
gospel … deeds of servi...
How might our people serve their neighbors?

How might our churches serve their
community?
8. The integral mission factor:

See evangelism as recruiting people for
God’s mission on earth, not just souls for
heaven.
Might we rediscover the power and scope of
the gospel?
Our contemporary gospel is primarily

  INFORMATION ON
HOW TO GO TO HEAVEN
   AFTER YOU DIE
with a large footnote about in...
self

  church
       world
world



        church


             self
Integral Mission =
The Gospel of the
Kingdom of God


          church


               self
Go and make disciples …
All authority in heaven and
           on earth has been given to
           me. Therefore go and make
           disciple...
When the Advocate comes, whom I will
send to you from the Father - the Spirit
of truth who goes out from the Father -
he w...
When he comes he will prove the world
to be in the wrong about sin and
righteousness (justice) and judgment;
about sin, be...
I have much more to say to you, more
than you can now bear.

But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes,
     he will guide y...
more ready
than you realize

     Evangelism as
            Dance
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  1. 1. Consider that we live in at least three worlds. Emerging world Modern world Pre-modern world today
  2. 2. Some of you will live and work one world, some in two, and some in all three. Emerging world Modern world Pre-modern world today
  3. 3. In your hearts, set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good 1 Peter behavior in Christ may be 3:15-17 ashamed of their slander.
  4. 4. A story about a book-release party…
  5. 5. Hi Brian (do you prefer to be called brian?) this is april, the harpist from your book signing party. i read your book this morning. it caused me to think a lot about a lot of things. i actually would like to tell you about it, but im afraid this e mail will be very lengthy...
  6. 6. i don't want to burden you (i understand you listen to a lot of people every day!) so im not sure... but i really need to talk to someone … and I cant think of anyone else i can talk to about religion..
  7. 7. like i said to you last night, recently i have been feeling like I want to become a christian, and maybe even start going to church and stuff. but … whenever i go to any church, or read any church literature I change my mind
  8. 8. … i get so angry (and i dont know why, because i havent had any overly negative experiences with the church) and i get these horrible visions of brainwashing and the like.
  9. 9. its so frustrating for me, because i feel like i dont owe christianity any breaks and that it deserves the tough microscope i put it under. … i dont want to let [them] "win" the christianity argument, or whatever.
  10. 10. when i was reading your book today at certain parts i felt so good, and at certain times i actually felt like i was about to cry, because it felt like something was really getting through to me. but i feel like theres something holding me back, theres some sort of defense mechanism in me that tells me not to believe any of it.
  11. 11. i guess thats probably why i asked you what i did last night. i need to make sure that im not being "lured in", just to find out once i go ahead and believe that a whole bunch of other stuff comes along with it that i cant feel comfortable with,
  12. 12. and then my whole person will change and ill become closed minded and bigoted and brainwashed and everything bad... i just cant feel that i can trust it. i dont know what to do.
  13. 13. oh well. at the very least, i really enjoyed reading your book…
  14. 14. it met me at every corner. that was frustrating, in a way, but in a healthy way, like eating veggies or something. ill try to write a review of it online when i get a chance. hope you had a good easter. - april
  15. 15. Several months passed with questions about … the Bible … Genocide in the Bible … How Christians treat certain types of people … And then she got involved with the church … playing harp for a contemplative prayer service.
  16. 16. hi brian, I just got up from a _three and a half_ hour nap (taken immediately after i returned home from church). i was thinking about emailing you before i fell asleep because i wanted to tell you how much i enjoyed your message today. … WHATYOU SAY is just so incredible.
  17. 17. i had a dream during my nap that i wanted to tell you about. Im not one to get really excited by dreams or anything like that, and i feel sort of weird telling you, but i just have to. …
  18. 18. for some reason, out of the blue (though in the dream,it didnt feel like it was out of the blue) you poured FREEZING cold water on my head and said the baptism thing ("in the name of the father, the son," etc, etc). it was dripping all down my face, everywhere... so much water, and it felt so good, and i just started to cry and saying over again "thank you. thank you so much."
  19. 19. i said to you "i have been thinking about this for awhile, but wasn't sure i was ready", and you said "youve been ready for a long time" and gave me a hug.
  20. 20. then i guess there was sort of a dream segue type thing, and i was sitting with my friend kate, who at the last minute cancelled out of going to my recital. i was sitting with her giving her the cold shoulder because she had missed it and it hurt my feelings.
  21. 21. then i remembered: wait a second, theres no turning back now, jesus wouldnt have done this, and you have no right to. and i just apologized to kate and siad "its okay... it went well and i understand why you couldnt make it, and of course our friendship is just as strong as always." 
  22. 22. then i woke up. i dont know... it just really affected me, ive felt like ive been on the verge of tears (happy tears) since i woke up. thank you for helping me bring about such a change in my life. april
  23. 23. They Like Jesus but not the Church Dan Kimball
  24. 24. 1.The church is an organized religion with a political agenda. The church is an organized community with a heart to serve others
  25. 25. 2. The church is judgmental and negative. The church is a positive agent of change loving others as Jesus would.
  26. 26. 3. The church is dominated by males and oppresses females. The church holds women in the highest respect and includes them in leadership in the church.
  27. 27. 4. The church is homophobic. The church is a loving and welcoming community.
  28. 28. 5. The church arrogantly claims all other religions are wrong. The church is respectful of other people’s beliefs and faiths.
  29. 29. 6. The church is full of fundamentalists who take the Bible literally. The church holds beliefs with humility and strives to be thoughtful theologians.
  30. 30. What they wish: 1. I wish church were not just a sermon or lecture but a discussion.
  31. 31. 2. I wish church would respect my intelligence.
  32. 32. 3. I wish church weren’t about the church building.
  33. 33. 4. I wish church were less programmed and would allow more time to think and pray.
  34. 34. 5. I wish the church were a loving place.
  35. 35. 6. I wish church cared for the poor and the environment.
  36. 36. 7. I wish the church taught more about Jesus.
  37. 37. From Dave Kinneman & Gabe Lyons Non-Christians aged 16-29 years old were asked, What is your current perception of Christianity? 91% said antihomosexual 87% said judgmental 85% said hypocritical 78% said old-fashioned 75% said too involved in politics 72% said out of touch with reality 70% said insensitive to others
  38. 38. a poem by sam shoemaker
  39. 39. I stand by the door. I neither go too far in, nor stay too far out, The door is the most important door in the world -- It is the door through which men walk when they find God.
  40. 40. They creep along like blind men, With outstretched, groping hands. Feeling for a door, knowing there must be a door, Yet they never find it… So I stand by the door.
  41. 41. The most tremendous thing in the world Is for men to find that door - the door to God. The most important thing any man can do Is to take hold of one of those blind, groping hands, And put it on the latch -
  42. 42. The latch that only clicks And opens to the man’s own touch. Men die outside that door As starving beggars die, On cold nights in cruel cities in the dead of winter - Die for want of what is within their grasp.
  43. 43. They live, on the other side of it - live because they have not found it. Nothing else matters compared to helping them find it, And open it, and walk in, and find Him… So I stand by the door.
  44. 44. There’s no use my going way inside, and staying there, When so many are still outside and they, as much as I, Crave to know where the door is. And all that so many ever find Is only the wall where a door ought to be.
  45. 45. Go in, great saints, go all the way in - Go way down into the cavernous cellars, And way up into the spacious attics - It is a vast, roomy house, this house where God is.
  46. 46. Go into the deepest of hidden casements, Of withdrawal, of silence, of sainthood. Some must inhabit those inner rooms, And know the depths and heights of God. And call outside to the rest of us how wonderful it is.
  47. 47. Sometimes I take a deeper look in, Sometimes venture in a little farther; But my place seems closer to the opening… So I stand by the door.
  48. 48. There is another reason why I stand there. Some people get part way in and become afraid Lest God and the zeal of His house devour them. For God is so very great, and asks all of us. And these people feel a cosmic claustrophobia
  49. 49. And want to get out. “Let me out!” they cry. And the people way inside terrify them more. Somebody must be by the door to tell them that they are spoiled For the old life, they have seen too much: Once taste God, and nothing but God will do any more.
  50. 50. Somebody must be watching for the frightened Who seek to sneak out just where they came in, To tell them how much better it is inside. The people too far in do not see how near these are To leaving - preoccupied with the wonder of it all.
  51. 51. Somebody must watch for those who have entered the door,But would like to run away. So for them, too, I stand by the door. I admire the people who go way in. But I wish they would not forget how it was Before they got in. Then they would be able to help
  52. 52. The people who have not yet even found the door, Or the people who want to run away again from God. You can go in too deeply, and stay in too long, And forget the people outside the door.
  53. 53. As for me, I shall take my old accustomed place, Near enough to God to hear Him, and know He is there, But not so far from men as not to hear them, And remember they are there, too.Where? Outside the door -- Thousands of them, millions of them.
  54. 54. But - more important for me - One of them, two of them, ten of them. Whose hands I am intended to put on the latch. So I shall stand by the door and wait For those who seek it. “I had rather be a door-keeper…”
  55. 55. So I stand by the door. (Samuel Moor Shoemaker, 1893 - 1963)
  56. 56. So I stand by the door. (Samuel Moor Shoemaker, 1893 - 1963)
  57. 57. Reflections: 1. Get out more. Get a life outside of church work. Be in contact with normal people. 2. Serve people. In practical ways. Be helpful. Do good works. 3. Ask questions; show genuine interest in people. Put the Great Commission back inside the Great Commandment.
  58. 58. 4. Talk freely and naturally about your spiritual life - not excessively, not using religious jargon. Be “naturally supernatural.” 5. Find or make a safe place for seekers to talk openly about God. Count conversations and don’t rush conversions. 6. Invite and include - in your life, including your spiritual life and your circle of friends.
  59. 59. 7. Stand by the door … stay close to people outside the church. What if the best experiences of your life are ahead of you, this year, next year … as you stand by the door to welcome the next person into God’s community of love and reconciliation?
  60. 60. Forget about Evangelism … And concentrate on making disciples.
  61. 61. What is a disciple? Not just someone who believes in Jesus to go to heaven someday … But someone who follows Jesus to manifest the kingdom of God on earth today.
  62. 62. So, before we “convert” others, we must be converted ourselves - from doing evangelism to making disciples of Jesus … People who live in the way of the kingdom of God.
  63. 63. 1. The relational factor: Count conversations, not just conversions. See evangelism as a relational dance, not a win/lose conquest.
  64. 64. In many places today, people will not become Christians unless they meet and get to know a Christian and Christian community which inspires them with curiosity and hope. This is similar to the first and second centuries … Many misconceptions must be overcome - and that can only be done by authentic, living examples of Christian discipleship and community.
  65. 65. 2. The narrative factor: It’s about their story, your story, and God’s story. We must begin by asking questions, listening, not judging, but seeking to truly understand.
  66. 66. When Christian faith presents itself as a system of belief, postmodern people are often skeptical. But when it presents itself as a redemptive story and a chosen way of life within that story, they see something unique and hopeful.
  67. 67. 3. The communal factor: The greatest hermeneutic [interpretation] of the gospel is a community that lives by it. (Newbigin) Our churches must be converted into missional communities of disciple-making. Belonging often precedes believing and becoming.
  68. 68. How can we create safe places? What makes our churches unsafe?
  69. 69. 4. The process or journey factor: Instead of “evangelism/follow-up” or “decision/discipleship,” think disciple- making -- a holistic process, not an isolated conversion event. The process can include events or milestones … such as baptism, commissioning for ministry, etc.
  70. 70. The disciple-making process with April began when I noticed her and helped her in a practical, down-to-earth way … and it continues today.
  71. 71. 5. The Holy Spirit factor Believe that God is already “out there” and at work with everyone (either trying to get in, or to get out!) … not just “in here” in the church.
  72. 72. Helping people interpret their spiritual experiences … as “spiritual consultants.” Helping people have spiritual experiences … charismatic and contemplative and activist pathways.
  73. 73. 6. The learning factor See evangelism as part of your discipleship, not just the other person’s. Remember Cornelius (Acts 10-11).
  74. 74. How can we experience conversion through evangelism?
  75. 75. 7. The service factor: The words of the gospel must be accompanied by the deeds and spirit of the gospel … deeds of service and a servant’s heart. This whole experience began with the simple act of helping April put her harp into her van.
  76. 76. How might our people serve their neighbors? How might our churches serve their community?
  77. 77. 8. The integral mission factor: See evangelism as recruiting people for God’s mission on earth, not just souls for heaven.
  78. 78. Might we rediscover the power and scope of the gospel?
  79. 79. Our contemporary gospel is primarily INFORMATION ON HOW TO GO TO HEAVEN AFTER YOU DIE with a large footnote about increasing your personal happiness and success through God. with a small footnote about character development with a smaller footnote about spiritual experience with a smaller footnote about social/global transformation.
  80. 80. self church world
  81. 81. world church self
  82. 82. Integral Mission = The Gospel of the Kingdom of God church self
  83. 83. Go and make disciples …
  84. 84. All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I Matthew am with always, to the very 28:18-20 end of the age.
  85. 85. When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father - the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father - he will testify about me. And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning…. But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you, but if I go, I will send him to you.
  86. 86. When he comes he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness (justice) and judgment; about sin, because people do not believe in me; about righteousness (justice), because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; and about judgment because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
  87. 87. I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. (John 15-16, selected)
  88. 88. more ready than you realize Evangelism as Dance

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