As the hype cycle around MOOCs drops, the question of what narratives will survive and thrive around MOOCs opens up. This keynote panel presentation for #MRI13 suggests there are two solitudes in the post-MOOC-hype discussion - one an empty picture of undeliverable promises for higher ed, and the other a loose affiliation of complicated and sometimes conflicting interests. The lot of us on the latter side need to learn to talk to each other, to the public, and to decision-makers.