Podcast #286 from http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2014/07/286-the-
Introduction: In this episode: Is The Potato Diet Healthy, How To Biohack Your
Office, How Much Liver Is Too Much, Natural Remedies for
Receding Gums, Itchy Skin After Hard Workouts and much more.
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Brock: So it’s really early. We’re getting rolling here and I gotta say, I’m
still a little bit hang-over ‘cause yesterday was Canada Day.
Ben: Oh, Canada day?
Brock: Hm-mm. Yes, it’s sort like Independence Day like you guys have
but it’s much more polite.
Ben: Ah you mean we’re a bunch of drunk rednecks lighting up
Brock: Oh! Now we’ve got that?
Ben: small animals on fire?
Brock: Yes. Yeah, there’s a lot of burnt beavers yesterday.
Ben: I will be… burnt beavers? I think that’s not a first. I’ll be driving
my kids over the border, the Washington-Idaho border today to
get fireworks. The Idahoans come over here to buy marijuana; we
go over there to buy fireworks.
Brock: I’ve been keeping a close-eye on
https://twitter.com/bengreenfield over the last few days ‘cause
there’s been some interesting stuff! You’ve been posting some cool
Ben: There has been and I like this one. This is a tweet that I sent out a
couple days ago that exercise can make you smart…
Ben: but exercising too long can make you stupid.
Ben: And this was a study that was done in Taiwan, I don’t know if that
changes any perception of this study ‘cause they’re all kind of
smart cookies over there. I don’t know.
Brock: So we used to be…
Ben: Is that racist way to say?
Brock: That’s racist in a good way.
Ben: Yeah, well there’s that whole just like “smart-Asian” stereotype
that’s out there. Alright, so apparently when a Taiwanese exercise
for too long they get stupid and that may affect the rest of us as
well. This was a test of cognitive ability using something called a
Stroop test where you identify the color of color words flashing on
the screen. I don’t know if you’ve done this test before, Brock. But
what they do is flash the word “green” across the screen in green
letters but sometimes they flash the word “green” across the
screen in different colors.
Brock: Yeah, That’s it. Lumosity has that same test.
Ben: Yeah, the lumosity falling out. Yeah, lumosity test like six different
elements of your cognitive performance. In this particular one is a
measurement of executive control. So, I suppose…
Brock: It’s like a measurement of whether you are color blind or not? I
second that one ‘cause I’m totally color blind.
Ben: Has anyone who has hung-out with you and seen the shirts that
Brock: No. Anyway, so, they did this stroop test.
Ben: They did this stroop test and what they found out was that the
sweet spot was about 30 minutes. And then, once you exceed 30
minutes, and you get close to 60 minutes of exercise, your
cognitive performance especially on this stroop test decreases. So
it turns out that exercising for too long could potentially be
cognitively fatiguing. And we all know that exercise can increase
levels of your brain activity – this brain drive neurotrophic factors
that can cause growth of brain neurons and help with learning;
help with cognitive performance during the day but the take away
lesson here is don’t go out and do a brutal workout when you need
your mental faculties around but keep things kinda short and
Ben: Yeah, so…
Brock: I do the 30 minute run before we start recording this so I should
be at my peak of smartness.
Ben: There we go. I strained in the bathroom for 5 minutes and
wondered in so I’m right there with yah…
Ben: my isometric contractions. Here’s another one for yah. Can eating
a big steak…
Brock: What are you doing in there, baby? Just doing some isometric
contractions, no problem!
Ben: So here’s another one, eating a big steak before bed can it help you
to sleep? Because there’s a lot of talk out there about whether or
not like high protein intake before bed can help you to sleep. This
was really interesting study that was over at biohacksblog.com
and what they reported on was a study in which they gave people
glycine proteins. And here’s the really interesting thing: we don’t
eat many glycine-rich proteins anymore in a typical westernized
diet or typical meat-rich-diet.
So this actually came up when we’re talking about the whole red-
meat cancer study in that pod a few weeks ago. The deal with
animal meat especially like a traditional steak or burger or
something like that is it’s very high in a couple of amino acids –
one called methionine; one called tryptophan – but it’s really low
in something called glycine. And organ meats are the complete
opposite. Organ meats like liver and heart and kidney and stuff
like that – they’re high in glycine but low in methionine. And what
happens is when you eat foods like steak that are high in
methionine or high in tryptophan but low in glycine, you’re
actually getting a little bit of amino acid imbalance meaning, that
from an ancestral standpoint or hunter-gather ancestor’s would
have incorporated what are called the gelatinous regions of the
body like the bone broth and the skin and tendons and ligaments
and discs and bone marrow and organ meats rather than just
eating the lean muscle which frankly often got fed to the dogs. So
the idea here is that in the study, they gave the isolated amino acid
glycine, which you’d find in more of these ancestral meats, to
people prior to bed and notice a significant improvement in sleep
quality. They give them about 3 grams of glycine versus a placebo
before bed at night. And so it turns out that having protein before
bed could theoretically improve sleep quality but if you’re going to
use that type of strategy and you’re gonna not go out and buy like
a glycine supplement; I’m all about using whole food versus
supplements when you can. It would be a good idea to make sure
that you eat more of ancestral foods, so literally like a cup of bone
broth before you go to bed at night if you have difficulty sleeping
maybe just a thing for you.
Brock: How about some liver pâté?
Ben: Just what the slick doctor ordered. You have liver pâté, bone
broth, fish that still has like the spine and organs inside which
sounds kinda gross we could do like whole sardines in the can.
Where you get little sardine brains and eyes and all that good
stuff, so eat some sardine brains and hit the sack.
Ben: And then finally, here’s one that I tweeted about: something not to
eat. This study came out just this month in the European Journal
Sport Science and it looked at carbohydrate availability during
exercise. And what they did was they specifically looked at key cell
signaling what are called kinases and transcription factors, things
that can help muscles repair and recover and help to enhance the
fitness response to a workout. And what they noted in this study
was that when you train in a condition of reduced carbohydrate
availability not only do you improve fat oxidation but you up
regulate the activity of these enzymes that are responsible for
improving fitness. So it’s kind of like this whole train-low, well
there’s some people that say train-low-raise-high when it comes to
carbohydrates like the people who use ketosis you know like I
have experimented with them in the past which is kinda like a
train-low-raise-low type of approach. But ultimately, what it looks
like is whether or not you plan on eating carbohydrates during say
like a long event or a race; you know a triathlon, marathon, etc.,
you’re still gonna benefit from doing a few workouts in a state of
reduced carbohydrate availability just so you up regulate some of
these enzymes responsible for improving fitness. So, the study
goes in the way more than that or the paper goes in the way more
than that but it’s really interesting, I’ll link to it in the show notes
for this episode over at bengreenfieldfitness.com/286 but it’s
worth checking out, it’s really interesting.
Brock: So, you’re giving away a Weehoo bike trailer.
Brock: What the heck is a Weehoo bike trailer?
Ben: I think I talked about this a few weeks ago, on a podcast when we
were talking about exercising with your kids.
Brock: Oh, is it the one where the kid gets to pedal as well?
Ben: The kid, you basically – the trailer attaches to your bike post, your
bike seat post, and then your kid pedals while you’re also
pedaling. So, it’s a great way to get your kid to burn calories and
Brock: It sounds important.
Ben: It so important for a kid to burn calories. No, but it’s fun the kids
like it, so, we’re giving one away. We’re giving one away…
and the give-away is taking place right now over on the
bengreenfieldfitness facebook page and I’ll put a link in the show
notes for you, ah for 286. But basically what we’re doing is we’re
giving away a Weehoo bike trailer as part of the launch of my
brand new tinny-tiny e-book called…
Ben: Ten Ways to Grow Tiny Superhumans and it basically goes into all
of the different strategies that I use with my kids to give them as
much of a step-up in life as possible when it comes to everything:
from bone density and muscle growth to social skills to cognitive
performance – everything. So it’s just kind of a little book on how
to influence your kids positively as possible and give them kinda
step-up in life. So…
Brock: And who doesn’t want that?
Ben: Who doesn’t want smart and socially successful kids? So the other
thing that I wanted to mention is that the number one podcast in
the outdoor section in iTunes this week, was my brand new
podcast that I do with the top rank Spartan athlete Hunter
McIntyre. And he’s the fellow who’s on the cover of Men’s Journal
for the month of July here.
Brock: Buffin’ and muddy.
Ben: That’s right and so we’ve got a brand new podcast it’s over at
obstacledominator.com, real short 25-30 minute podcast but if
you’re listening in to this episode and you’re interested in like
Spartan racing and tough mudder and stuff like that, we get really
specific on that stuff: you can go to obstacledominator.com, you
can leave your questions, download previous episodes, we’ve got
four episodes out right now – so check that out over at
obstacledominator.com and yeah.
Brock: If you guys don’t cover it soon I’m gonna ask how to avoid or how
to handle the electrocution part of tough mudder?
Ben: Hmmm. Yeah.
Brock: It’s everything that’s got me worried.
Ben: Yeah, you know, it’s not that intense – the electrocution. It’s more
kind of the state of mind that you’re in when you go through it. It’s
kinda like taking a cold shower; it’s like if you close your mouth
and you do some deep nasal breathing and you just put your mind
somewhere out you barely even notice it. So… And by the way, I
need – just really quickly before we delve to this week’s Q&A, I
have to brag – I actually did a Trifecta in the past seven days. I did
a sprint Spartan, the super Spartan and beast Spartan – all in the
span of seven days! So…
Ben: I’m pretty beat-up now, but it felt good.
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Listener Q & A:
Becky: Hi Ben and Brock, my name is Becky. Last year I had my wisdom
teeth out and I loved eating mainly mashed potatoes for about a
week when my mouth healed. And surprisingly, I felt very healthy
and satisfied and I ended up losing a bit of weight during that
week. I’ve come across some forums of people who do potato fast
as a way to lose weight must have preventing the bodies with
necessary micro-nutrients. There seems to be quite of a bit of
research on the subject as well, most of which has been positive.
I’m wondering what your thoughts are on consuming a diet with
majority of calories coming from potatoes. It seems like a frugal
and over-a-healthy-wealth-eating concerning to my Irish
ancestor’s life. Thank you.
Brock: I’ve heard of the potato famine before.
Ben: Yeah, this is basically like a self-inflicted potato famine. Sounds
horrible. I told my wife that somebody called a question to the
podcast about the potato diet and she said it just sounded like the
worst thing on the face of the planet when I described it to her. So
here’s how the potato diet goes, you eat mostly potatoes and the
original potato diet was called the potato reset, and I don’t think
that’s correct – the potato reboot, reset. Basically you eat potatoes
for a week and 90% of your calories come from just potatoes.
Brock: You mean like fully-dressed potatoes like sour cream, bacon bits,
Ben: No. You are allowed spices, salt, pepper and vinegar, okay?
That’s it, that’s the traditional potato. So you can put that stuff on
the potato. You eat between 2 and 4 lbs. of potato daily and those
are cooked and there are cooled so that the potato’s level of
resistant starch which is the type of starch is a little bit more
resistant to digestion but that still kinda ferment in your gut,
that’s enhanced when you cook the potato and then you cool it.
You get unlimited amounts of coffee, tea and water; and you can
continue to take any normal supplement you’d usually take.
Intermittent fasting, especially by skipping breakfast is
encouraged on the potato diet and then the other thing…
Brock: I have a feeling that would be just to the natural reaction the
fourth time that you look at the potato that day, you’re just gonna
Ben: Skipping breakfast would not be hard for me if I was eating
potatoes only. And then lifting heavy things is discouraged so…
Brock: Oh, well I guess that makes sense.
Ben: Yeah, I personally don’t get motivated to go lift heavy things if I’ve
been forced to eat potatoes for a week.
Brock: Just eating cold starch.
Ben: Yeah. So, basically the idea behind this is that it is supposed to
cause you to kinda eat less of the foods that might be unhealthy
for you because you get a lot less food reward obviously from
potatoes so you’re less likely to over-eat those as well. Three to 4
lbs of potatoes is actually not that many calories, you do tend to be
in a calorie restricted state on this diet. You get the resistant
starch from the potatoes which are supposed to be good for your
gut flora and it causes formation of what’s called butyrate which
helps fatty acids to get formed as that as you get the fermentation
of these resistance starches and that produces a bunch of fatty
acids. So technically, you can go on to ketosis on this potato diet
Ben: Now, potatoes themselves some people get concerned about
because of some of the potential digestive inhibitors and fight age
that are in potatoes. But the basic idea is that potatoes are the
reproductive organ of the potato plant and anytime we look at like
a seed or reproductive organ, they have defenses against
predators including humans from eating them so that they could
potentially get pooped out basically and grow somewhere else. So
basically potatoes does have natural toxic chemical defenders on
the outside of it specifically on the skin and it has a high amount
of what are called glycoalkaloids on the skin and this help the
potato plants to repel pests and help them to be a little bit
resistant to digestion over and above the actual resistance starch
that you might get. So, when you consume this glycoalkaloids they
could potentially cause a little bit of inflammation; they could
cause some bowel upset especially in someone who has leaky gut
like someone who maybe has been under a lot of stress or has
been eating a poor diet – those glycoalkaloids might actually be
pretty aggravating to the gut. That’s the main issue with potatoes
– we’re not talking about potatoes that are like fried in vegetable
oil or have a bunch of sour cream added to them of something like
that. Now, the potato form that’s the lowest in glycoalkaloids is
the russet potato and then of course you could, in addition to just
season like a russet potato, peel the potatoes to get to the skin and
the glycoalkoloids off of them. And I actually make that
recommendation to folks who have like immune issues, leaky
guts, stuff like that and anyways, if you’re gonna eat potatoes it’s a
good idea to peel the potatoes whether it’s a sweet potato or yam
or regular potato or whatever the potato had. So the idea here
though is that you know, potatoes are pretty basic form of food,
they’re not incredibly full of nutrients. They’ve got a really low
calorie density and they actually fill you up pretty well but I mean
when you look at the nutrient profile of this, you’re gonna be
missing out on a lot of micro-nutrients on some of your minerals
and I personally am not a fan at all of any type of diet that is
incredibly restrictive you know, like the cabbage soup diet or the
potato diet or the lemon juice kind – cleanse. You know if
somebody comes out with like the steak diet, I could probably
handle that – the T-bone steak diet. But ultimately, like you and I
could do it it’s probably not gonna hurt you short term to do a
potato diet for a week, honestly. You know it takes a good 30-days
before excessive calorie restriction begins to affect your
metabolism in a negative way. You could try this out, it’s not
gonna hurt you especially if you peel the potatoes or you use like a
low glycoalkoloids like a russet potato.
But man, it just sounds boring as hell and I’m just not a huge fan
of overly restrictive diet. I don’t know, what do you think, Brock?
Brock: I just, I can’t help but think of the early explorers like when they’ll
be on their ships when they’re like discovering the new worlds.
They ended up running out of food a lot and eat potatoes like for
weeks and weeks and they all ended up with scurvy!
Brock: And that’s the first thing pops to my head is like, well you could do
a potato fast, but you might lose your teeth due to scurvy.
Ben: Yeah, that and I had like you know, very grandpa halfway across
the country as they travel on their covered wagons and getting
chased by you know…
Ben: yeah, by huge buffalo, I don’t know. Like, yeah, I think emulating
the diets of our ancestors in some cases may not be possible.
Brock: It’s not the greatest idea in this case.
Ben: There you go.
Heather: Hello. So I just got an office job for the first time in many years
and it’s a great place but it’s a very corporate – lots of cubes; lots
of people; lots of dirty electricity, EMF signals, wi-fi – you know,
the works. So my question is: Ben, if you were to work in an office,
if it’s just completely unavoidable for you, what would your days
look like? What things would you bring into the office to help
mitigate some of those toxins? Yeah, just walk through the whole
day I wanna know what would Ben do. Thanks!
Brock: So I need you need to make that t-shirt now. “What Would Ben
Ben: “What Would Ben Do?” the WBWD in an office job? Okay, so
here’s the deal: the very, very first thing that you gotta realize is
that you know and I think I might be preaching to require to our
podcast listeners here, but basically it doesn’t matter how much
exercise you do at the end of the day if you have your butt planted
in a chair for eight-hours a day or for two-hours at any given time.
So before you start to delve in all biohacks I’ll tell you about here,
the most important thing is that you freakin’ just get off your butt.
Brock: And go back and listen to the Katy Bowman episode. What was it
called? I can’t remember what you guys talked about…
Ben: Ah, where we talked about different positions, standing positions
that you can be in?
Brock: Yeah, just do a search for Katy Bowman.
Ben: Like, I have a poster that’s hanging on my wall that shows about
50 different positions that you could be in during the work day.
And it’s all alternate from standing to standing with a leg up on a
stool to lying on the floor with my laptop to lounging on the couch
to going to in a seated position to wandering outside to going back
to a standing position. You may not be able to do all of that at
your office job, especially if you’re in a cubicle but you can at least
kneel, you can get into a lounging position, you can get into like a
cross-legged position on your chair and you kinda shift
throughout the day. But even more importantly than that, if you
can slip away, you know whether it’s a multiple intervals
throughout the day, I’m a huge fan of the short workout intervals
like the 7-minute workout that appeared in the New York Times,
the twenty squats every time you go to the bathroom. I’ve got five
different 10-minute exercise routines, I wrote an entire article that
was just full of 10-minute exercise routines. I’ll put a link to that
article in the show notes for you, Heather but it’s just you know, a
mix-up of push-ups and mountain climbers and squats and
lounges and things you can do real quickly without working out a
big sweat that are pretty much body weight only. That’s kinda the
biggest, most important thing ‘cause what annoys me is once
people starts talking about some of the stuff that we have talked
about like negative ions or structured water and all this jazz that
you can use to detox your body in the office, but they’re still just
sitting around all day. I mean, in a way, exercise is kinda the great
cure to help your body to fight off a lot of the environmental
assailants that you might see in a typical office.
Brock: And it’s not necessarily exercise either, it’s just movement.
Ben: Yeah, just movement.
Brock: Because the problem is, we’re not moving at all!
Ben: Yup, exactly.
Brock: Even if the standing work station like I find myself in my standing
work station, I’m standing on two feet like you said like you need
to be shifting your body around. It needs to be a dynamic work
Ben: Yeah, exactly. A trampoline work station.
Ben: Okay so let’s delve into a few other things that I recommend that
you do. The first thing is, when you look at the human cell itself,
it’s based on electrochemical gradients. So it works best at
basically an electrochemical gradient of about 70 millimoles. And
so when you step into a room that’s full of wifi routers and
computers and electromagnetic fields and cellphone signals, there
is a huge amount positive ion generation. And when you get a big
amount of positive ion generation, what that does is it drops that
electrochemical gradient closer to about 30 to 40.
Brock: Inside your cell?
Ben: Inside your cell, it literally affects the cell membrane, cellular
metabolism in the activity of the cells themselves as well as the
enzymes. So, what you have to ideally do is somehow expose
yourself to negative ions to restore that electrochemical gradient.
This is why you know when you’re travelling on an airplane, it’s so
important to get outside; getting a fresh air; get by an ocean or a
body of water; stand barefoot on the ground because all those type
of things are sources of negative ions. A huge amount of negative
ions are generated by moving water like rivers and waterfalls and
crashing waves and showers and fountains, so that’s a really good
way to get exposure of negative ions. Plants produce negative ions
especially when they’re photosynthesizing, so natural plants in
outdoor environment exposed to sunlight those are sources to
negative ions as well. Unfortunately, sometimes you may not have
access to plants exposed to sunlight in your office; you may not
have access to giant’s naked fountains and waterfalls in your
office, so you have to find other sources to have – to get exposed
to negative ions. And that’s where like if you go to Amazon for
example, and I’ve got one plugged into the wall here beside me.
You can get what I called negative ion generators and these are
literally generators that you plug in to the wall and they produce
negative ions. You can also, if you wanted to go kind of a step
above and get more bang for your buck, you could get a HEPA Air
Filter like a portable HEPA Air Filter which is really good for kind
of filtering toxins, endocrine disruptors from cologne and
perfume of other people around you in your office. You can put
one of those under your desk to filter the air but you can get
HEPA Air Filters that also have a negative ion generators and so
you can kinda kill two birds at one stone. I’ll put a link to both
negative ion generators like 25 bucks, I’ll put a link to that in the
show notes over at bengreenfieldfitness.com/286 but I’ll also put
a link in there and this is also there if you get to Amazon the
HEPA Air Filter and again the only difference between like you go
on to the show notes and grabbing stuff off Amazon is it helps
support the show of course, when you shop at Amazon.
Brock: There’s some shekels in our hats.
Ben: Shekels. So, the other things that I would focus on in addition to
filtering the air and a negative ion generator, one would be the
type of water that you drink. Obviously, you may not get the best
water in your office setting, some offices will have the water cooler
that’s honestly a lot of times filtered clean you know, mineral
enhanced spring water. I mean like, there are outfits here in
Spokane I know that deliver that type of water to offices and that
something that you could speak to your co-workers or your boss
about look for in your area would be just like a good mineral
spring water that gets delivered in one of these coolers.
Brock: Like the collagen kind of thing?
Ben: Yeah, exactly. A lot of times the coolers still plastic, you know, it’s
sitting there, it’s not getting swished around or swirled so
sometimes the water isn’t quite as alive as structured as you get
yourself. And that’s where you could do something like get one of
these little glass structured water bottles and there’s actually – I
already mentioned biohacks blog but I’ll mention it again that
they had another article over at biohacksblog.com about
structured water about how they specifically did a study on it and
showed that it did help to lower inflammation compared to
regular water. And all structured water is it water that has been
passed through like a series of glass beads that kinda moved
around and shaken up a little bit in the same way that you would
get if you’re to drink out of like a fresh mountain spring like high
up in the mountains. And the idea here…
Ben: Delicious! So anyways, you can get like a glass bottle which is
much better to drink up compare to plastic, it helps to keep the
water structured and they sell these glass structured water bottles
on Amazon that would be way better than like a Nalgene or like a
regular plastic water bottle and you can just take that to work and
the cool thing is that it structures any water that you add to it. So,
assuming that you got a good filtered water then you can basically
just add regular filtered water from your office into the structured
water bottle to structure it. If you tend to have things like fluoride
and chlorine and stuff like that, you would be beneficial for you to
maybe add a little bit of iodine – you can add a few drops of iodine
to the water to help mitigate some of the effects that things like
chlorine and fluoride would have on your thyroid gland for
example. But at least get a glass structured water bottle and then
you could potentially add iodine to it as well if wanted to add that
So you can literally get a form of iodine called nascent iodine – it
comes in those little dropper and that’s one that I travel with – so
there’s a few little droppers that I travel with like I travel with a
melatonin dropper; I travel with a little bit of iodine usually a little
bit of marine phytoplankton but basically iodine is a good one to
add to a glass structured water bottle. A few other things that I
would do for a healthy home office, not a healthy home office, a
healthy working environment, the first is for cleaning: if you need
to clean just basically use like a spray bottle with water and a few
drops of oil or oregano in it. Okay, so if it’s a diluted oil of oregano
then you can put about 10 to 20 drops of oil of oregano in a spray
bottle. You can use that to clean rather using a disinfectant or a
typical like anti-bacterial hand soap of something like that. That’s
something you can keep around for cleaning; you can also clean
your hands with that and that’s what I would use instead of the
typical cleaning products that you’d find to clean your desk or to
clean your office area.
Brock: You’re using olive oil to keep your skin nice and supple. You’ll
smell like a salad.
Ben: Olive oil and oregano, yeah. Your smell would be very attractive to
all of your Italian co-workers. A few other things speaking of
attractiveness, this is gonna sound silly, but this is actually – mark
my words – going to be something that more and more people
began to use and that is fabric or clothing that helps to shield
yourself from electromagnetic radiation. And believe it or not,
they’re actually getting more fashionable. You can get some pretty
good-looking, especially for guys that less I would say so for
women at this point, but you can get EMF blocking underwear.
You can at least protect your gonads and some of the more
important areas of your body with things that are going to block
high amounts of electromagnetic field exposure especially if you
got like wifi routers and things like that underneath your desks.
EMF blocking underwear – you can literally get it off Amazon
now, there’s more and more companies popping up there’s selling
EMF blocking clothing that basically block some of the radiation
that you get exposed to when you’re surrounded by computers
and routers and things of that nature. So you can use EMF
blocking underwear as well. And then…
Brock: So I can stop putting all that tin foil in my shorts now?
Ben: That’s right.
Ben: You know you like the tin foil on your shorts anyways.
Ben: Yeah, yeah. It’s just the texture. It stays warm too that tin foil in
the shorts. Another couple of things that you can do I’ll throw two
more things out here: one, would be to if you’re exposed to like
nasty food or cafeteria-based food or food that might have toxins
in it, subpar proteins like non-organic eggs, fish stuff like that, I
would have chlorella or activated charcoal. Both of those are really
good binders that can help to bind the toxins that you might get
from foods that you’re forced to eat when you have limited food
Brock: You’re forced to eat?
Brock: Where are you working that you’re forced to eat this stuff?
Ben: Eat this boiled egg now!
Brock: Eat this bologna!
Ben: Anyways though, chlorella or activated charcoal, I’m a fan of that
as well. And then finally I have a book that has a bonus video that
comes with a book – it’s an a hour-long interview that I did with a
guy about how to reduce EMF in your home office you know and
it’s why right now my computer’s grounded I’m hard wiring into
the wireless router. You know, I’ve got one of these negative ion
generators like my entire office right now is a rigged-up to have as
little EMF as possible floating around. But I’ve got a video on the
book and I’ve got you know, it’s a bunch of transcripts and
podcasts it’s called “Biohacking A Healthy Home”. I’ll put a link to
that it’s like 7 bucks but it kinda goes in to all this stuff and detail.
And a lot of the things that I talk about when it comes to
biohacking a healthy home, in terms of just like detoxing your
home, decreasing EMF, decreasing exposure to mold and stuff
like that it all applies to you home office as well. So that’ll be
another good resource should be that biohacking a healthy home
book. I know I just went over a ton of stuff for that “What Would
Ben Do… in an office job”. I don’t think I’d survive in office job by
the way but basically I’ll put a link to all that stuff in the show
Kathy: Hello Ben, Brock this is Kathy from Portland. And I have a
question today about liver powder.
I’ve heard you mentioned sometimes on the podcast recently
about supplementing with liver powder if you don’t or unable to
get an organ meat really early. I have been actually doing that and
find it to be quite helpful. My question is: is this safe to take
everyday? I know that supplementing with organ meat especially
liver with its high concentration to certain minerals and vitamins
that should potentially have once or twice a week. And so I’m
wondering if supplementing with liver powder is something that
we should be careful with and only supplement still the same once
or twice a week or if we could take it everyday? So that’s it, thanks
Ben: You know Brock, liver can kill yah.
Ben: Did you hear about this? There was this deal with this arctic
explorers and they were dying from a retinoid overdose. Basically
they Vitamin A overdose, you know why?
Brock: Oh, ‘cause they were eating polar bear...
Ben: Polar bear liver.
Brock: Oh yeah, I’ve heard about that.
Ben: And they’ll tell like a lot, like for example, pregnant women will be
told by their doctors to avoid liver because all the excessive
Vitamin A in liver could increase the risk of severe birth defects.
And it’s actually true. Polar bear liver – just like one gram of polar
bear liver has like a thirty thousand international units of Vitamin
A in it. And if you compare that to the same amount of beef liver
you’ve got like a hundred and fifty international units.
Brock: Yeah, much more reasonable.
Ben: Yeah, but the thing is that when you look at something say birth
defects from eating liver, that’s pretty over-blown because the
studies that have been done on the spike in the things that could
cause malformation to a fetus which called trans retinoic acid.
Those spikes in the studies that they’ve done on retinal
consumption were only shown when someone supplemented
orally with high doses of Vitamin A like Vitamin A extract or
intra-muscular Vitamin A injections and they actually didn’t have
a spike in those same levels of retinoic acid when these women
who were in the study just had basic calf liver. So the idea here is
that there’s a big, big difference between what you get from whole
food versus what you get from like an oral liver supplement or
even like a liver capsule or a liver powder. And I suspect that it’s
because when you consume something like a whole food source:
you’re getting copper; you’re getting iron; you’re getting some of
the other fat-soluble vitamins that help to balance-out high
amounts of isolated Vitamin A or even some of the isolated fat-
soluble vitamins that you’re just gonna get from like a liver
powder or liver extracts. So, ultimately, you have to be less careful
if you’re eating regular liver than if you’re taking like a liver
capsule or a liver powder. Now at the same time, if you look at
things from like an ancestral standpoint: like animals to my
knowledge only have one liver, right? And so, if you’re eating liver
every single day, then you might be eating more liver than what
our ancestors would’ve traditionally been exposed to.
Brock: You’re going through the whole herd.
Ben: Yeah. Like I personally eat liver about once every two weeks and
what I do is I take about six ounces of solid liver, I dredge it in
some eggs; I put it in a little bit of coconut flour and I basically fry
it in some butter and before I do all of that, I soak it in lemon juice
for about four hours beforehand that just kinda breaks it down
and moves a lot of like the livery kind of gamey flavor that you get
from the liver.
Brock: I love that flavor!
Ben: And I don’t eat that much and you know have that with some
onions and some roasted vegetables and it’s pretty good. And my
kids like it too, kind of covers up the taste. And we get our liver
from a few different sources: U.S. Wellness Meats, they have
organic liver that’s really good and then I also hunt so I usually
have some deer liver in the freezer and then we get a little bit of
cow liver from the local butcher. But I’m a huge fan of doing that
instead of the powder or the extract just because of the potential
for really, really highly concentrated doses of Vitamin A in these
powders or these extracts. If you’re gonna use the powder or
you’re gonna use the extract, the doses very pretty highly so, what
they reported on there’s really interesting article that appeared in
The Guardian and what they reported on in that article was that
when you’re consuming these liver doses,
these liver powders or these liver capsules that the
recommendation is to limit your intake to no more than about 50
grams of the equivalent of liver consumption per week. And in
most cases that would be not using much more than about one of
these capsules each day if you’re gonna use like a liver powder
extract or liver capsule. Ultimately though, I’m a bigger fan of
getting it for the reasons that I just mention from just like a whole
food source and so, and definitely not from the polar bear. Also,
like organic is really, really good when it comes to any of these
organ meats because you know the liver is a filter and you want to
theoretically consume liver that comes from an animal that is
reported to have not been exposed to pesticides and herbicides
and hormones and stuff like that. And so Now Foods has a – I
would say if I was gonna use a liver powder probably than Now
Foods one, just because it’s like an organic Argentinean beef
source. So I would do that but ultimately like if you had to choose
between that and ordering liver from a company like U.S.
Wellness Meats, I just order liver from place like that.
Matt: Hi Ben and Brock, this is Matt calling from Kaiserslautern,
Germany. I’m hoping Ben can help with a little oral problem I
have. My wife just had a Free Soft Tissue grab with her dentist due
to a gum recession and I’m trying to avoid the same treatment
myself so I’ve actually significant recessionary going on and I’ve
been handling the airwaves for some solution but I can’t seem to
find anything out there. I did see recommendation to take
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CoQ10 supplement, I’ve been taking that for about a month with
my eggs at breakfast ‘cause you’re supposed to take with a fatty
meal. So, is there anything else you think I can do or any
supplements or any techniques out there that you’re aware of how
to re-grow my gums? Or am I just out of luck? Thanks as always
for the podcasts and good luck.
Brock: I have nightmares about oral surgeries like this one. I’m okay with
needles; I’m okay with blood; I’m okay with guts but just stuff in
Ben: Yeah, I tend to stay away from the dentist. I’ve been to the dentist
I think, once in the past ten years. I just don’t go. I use one of
those water picks, I put a little bit of oregano in that. I brush my
teeth with - I use like a fluoride-free toothpaste it’s the dental herb
company something like that for a while. I used like a charcoal
tooth powder but I literally don’t go…
Brock: Yeah, all that charcoal tooth powder, I used to use that too and
that company just stopped making it.
Ben: Yeah, yeah. But you can still find charcoal tooth powder, there’s
another company out there I saw at Paleo FX conferences called
Dirt and it’s like again, just like a tooth powder. But I used that; I
use a water pick and I actually chew xylitol gum a lot. I use a
brand called B-Fresh which is like Vitamin B12 xylitol-based gum,
so. And knock on wood, I haven’t really need to go to the dentist
and I just went once just to see what my teeth were like and they
told me that my teeth were fine like they didn’t need to clean
them. So we’re gonna get all the dentist writing into the show now
very angry that I’m trying to put them out of the business but I’m
not – I’m just saying. And my wife has been to the dentist a few
times more than I have ‘cause she ate a bunch of candy when she
was a kid and she’s got like fillings all over the place.
Brock: Oh, that’s me. I’m on different things that need to be – well they
need to keep an eye on them.
Ben: Yeah, yeah.
Brock: Which is like, kind of a bummer. So anyways, so if you use a Soft
Tissue Grab that’s when they grab some tissue from somewhere
else in your mouth and then graft it on to where your gum ought
Ben: Yeah and I mean gum is just connective tissue, right? It’s the
inner phase between your teeth and your jawbones. And when you
look at any type of connective tissue what you need to support
connective tissue is collagen. Because collagen is a major
component of connective tissue and when you look at the type of
compounds that are best at building collagen, we see this group of
nutrients called glycosaminoglycans or GAGs and some of the
more popular GAGs that you may be familiar with are things like
glucosamine, chondroitin and hyaluronic acid. And these are all
things that a lot of times would be sold like as like supplements or
injectables for joint pain, but GAGs help to support the connective
tissue health and all connective tissue including the gums. Now
the very, very best source of GAGs is something that I brought up
earlier and that is bone broths and when you slow-cook bones,
particularly joint bones over the course of anything from one to
that gives the bone and the connective tissues that are slow-
cooked or in a pot the time to break down in the stock water that
they’re in and what the result is this perfect balance of minerals
that are really easily absorbed by the body, super healthy and
healing to the gut lining but also chock full of collagen for
connective tissue health - for joint-health, for gum-health, for
teeth-health. And so you know, I would say if anything, if I were
gonna choose one thing for gum recession or for enhancing
connective tissue as well as enhancing you know because of the
minerals that help the teeth as well – it would be bone broth. If
you wanna learn how to make bone broth, it’s really easy to make.
We make it every week with the whole chicken. You can buy bone
broth, there are companies like thebrothery.com for example they
sells bone broth. Well basically bone broth will be the number one
thing that I’d recommend. There are some other things that you
could do as well and I didn’t mention that I do this, but sometimes
I take that MCT oil just like a - I have the bulletproof MCT oil that
I swished it around in my mouth, so it’s this concept of using oil
pulling as a mouth wash. But when you oil pull with specific forms
of oil it can also help with gum recession. I haven’t seen the
evidence for MCT oil for this but the type of oil that’s used for oil
pulling in like an ayurvedic medicine is usually sesame oil or
coconut oil. And all that means is that you put it in your mouth
and you swish it around and obviously the coconut oil has to be at
room temp a little bit higher because otherwise it’s not gonna…
Brock: The earth temp.
Ben: Yeah, or mouth temperature but basically, you swish and swish
and swish and you pull it through your teeth and in now your
teeth for like two to five minutes and you just swish this oil
running in your mouth and sesame oil would be really a good
one; coconut oil would be another one. Aloe Vera is also a natural
remedy for healing damaged gums.
Brock: Aw, yeah!
Ben: You can get fresh aloe Vera gel don’t get the stuff that’s full of like
the artificial colors and additives and the stuff that you’d find at
like a Walgreens or CVS but like a… get a good natural, fresh aloe
Vera gel and you can use that in the same way that you can use
mouthwash to prevent gum decay so that would be another really,
really good one to use. There are some essential oils that are
really, really good for mouth health as well. We purchased
essential oils there’s this website called Mountain Rose Herbs. I’ll
put a link to it in the show notes but they basically have certified
organic essential oils and when added to water or even swished
around in your mouth like diluted in water and swished around in
your mouth in the morning for example, any of these are really
good anti-fungal agents and also good at helping with receding
gums or helping with connective tissue strength in the mouth.
One would be lemon oil, another really good one is eucalyptus oil
and you could mix all these together if you wanted to. Another
good one is clove oil, I like clove ‘cause it’s a natural anti-septic;
an anti-microbial and anti-fungal agent too so, clove is really good
for that as well. Tea tree oil by the way, is also pretty good one, so
I would say the top ones would be tea tree oil, clove, lemon and
eucalyptus if you wanted to have more like an anti-fungal effects,
anti-viral, anti-bacterial effects – sesame and coconut are really
good just for general mouth health. And then if you do have some
pretty serious receding gums, you can use aloe Vera as well as
something to put in your mouth. And then of course, bone broth
would be the number one thing that I go after.
Skyler: Hi Ben! I have a question, every time I do any remotely intense
exercise 20 mins of kettle bells, a little bit speed work running, I
cannot sleep at night. My body just gets wired, I’m itchy in my
skin – what’s happening to my nervous system? Why is this
happen? If you have any thoughts, I’d really appreciate it, thanks!
Brock: This is a problem I’ve never heard of before.
Brock: Of not sleeping, I’ve heard of.
Ben: I’ve actually experienced this myself and I’ve had some of my
clients have this as well. And the culprit is heat. It’s body
temperature. So what happens is when you physically exert
yourself especially at a really high intensity it creates heat in the
muscles and the heat spread and it races your internal temp. And
you know, usually what you would want is you have a temperature
of 98.6 and when you get very, very hot during a workout, one of
the ways that you body gets rid of the extra core heat is it sends
blood through the skin surface and the skin surfaces normally like
80 to 90 degrees but that excess heat can aggravate the skin in
many situations and cause a release of histamine.
And histamine triggers that itching sensation. And a lot of times
you feel it more often in areas of very high blood fall like your face
and your scalp and your neck which is where you know you can
get heat kinda trap especially up towards the hair, so you might
find you sweat or itch in your scalp area. And obviously, the way
that you would address this is by addressing formation of heat
and also addressing histamine. My number one tip is to get cool as
quickly as possible after your workout especially if it is an
afternoon or an evening based workout. Now one
of the best ways that you can enhance sleep pros workout is by
getting your body wet because as soon as you get out of like a cold
shower or a bath prior to bed, whether or not you’ve worked out,
what happens is the air cools your skin and it can really help you
to sleep. That’s a huge kinda hidden cause of people not sleeping
properly is just that there temperature is too high. And sleeping in
a cool environment can help people out quite a bit. If you’ve been
working out this is all the more important. Get into the habit of
like a lukewarm shower or cold shower to cool the body down;
lower your room temperature; turn on a fan, if you have a fan
‘cause that moving air will help to kinda cool and dry your skin.
You can even use the humidifier to moisten the air a little bit and
to cause it to become a little bit more cool so that would help out
quite a bit in addition to just making sure that you’re not
exercising in a excessively hot environment for your afternoon or
evening-based workout. The other thing that I’d recommend
would be kind of the number one way that’s I’ve found to help
with everything for like allergies to reducing histamines to helping
with allergic reactions that would just be to step up your intake of
fish oil. I’m a big, big fan of fish oil as a natural anti-histamine. So
you can take about four to six grams of fish oil, just look for
something that has a really good like a 1:1 EPA/DHA ratio. Gets
something in its natural triglyceride form versus ethyl esters form
– there’s a lot of good brands out there: Barleans; Farm Axis is a
good one; Super Essentials is a good one; Green Pastures makes
like a fermented cod liver oil – it’s a good one; the Thorne FX one
is a good one but just like getting good fish oil and use about four
to six grams of that a day in addition to keeping your body as cool
as possible especially in the evening. And that can help with the
nervous system; it can help with the heat formation and that’s the
first thing that I’ll try if I were in Skyler’s shoes.
Brock: I like it. And you know what else I like?
Ben: Free stuff? Swag?
Brock: Free stuff.
Ben: Boom! Actually, we got a big box just arrived yesterday. The
bengreenfieldfitness beanies which is pretty tight. I put a picture
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bunch of people wanna know where they can get’em and you can
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package that comes with this cool tech t-shirt, it’s got the beanie
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gonna give away one of these gear packs, you can support the
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could also win one by leaving a positive review on iTunes and by
the way, Brock before we go into this positive review, can we play
sad trombone music? (music plays) Sad trombone music because
we’ve gotten a few 1-star reviews on iTunes lately.
Ben: Yes, I just noticed.
Ben: I went in to look at the reviews and noticed we got some 1-star
Brock: What are we doing wrong?
Ben: I don’t know. I know that it’s Brock’s fault, it must be Brock’s
fault. We may have a lot of Canada heirs, I don’t know but
anyways, if you’re listening in then help us fight those negative
reviews by going to iTunes we’ll put a link in the show notes. Go to
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Brock: Counteract those haters.
Ben: Counteract. So give us a five-star and we’ll love you forever and we
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Brock: C. Brian H.
Ben: C. Brian H. What does he say?
Brock: I don’t think it’s… Ca-Brian-Huh, perhaps? The title of this is:
“This podcast has made me weirdly amazing”. I like it.
Alright, he says: The words of my wife: “You sure do you talk
about this podcast a lot? I like it.”
Ben: That was a pretty good wife impression.
Brock: Yeah, I was trying not to be a, trying not to be offensive… “Ben
and Brock have become a daily part of my morning commute.
Not only they have opened my mind to new ways to achieve
superhuman power; render a reverb enhanced man voice;…
Ben: Oh, so that’s what reverb is?
Brock: Does a reverb have to echo?
Ben: It does. (SUPERHUMAN POWER!)
Brock: That’s yeah. I like it. Anyway, “but they’ve inspired me to think
more of my daily choices I make. Do yourself and your family a
favor and subscribe to bengreenfieldfitness, I can guarantee you
will become a better person for it.”
Ben: Hmm. Or at least achieve SUPERHUMAN POWER! (echo) Yes!
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