ASOS has been improving its world for the last 8 years. It has grown from 2 teams in 2008 to over 50 in 2017, increased revenues massively in the same period and then embarked on a major re-architecture of its codebase with a large emphasis on cloud. This talk is about how we have approached the evolution of DevOps during that period – some of the mistakes we have identified and how it’s so not about tools but people, getting good people to care about Platform Engineering and engendering that behaviour in to teams.