Advanced Technologies & Computer Sciences
Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes
November 6, 2008 7:30 am to 9:00am Clyde Hupp Boardroom
Call to Order
A general meeting of the Advisory Committee was called to order at 7:47 am by chair Aaron Todd.
Welcome and Introductions
• New member: Anthony Moore from TagMaster.
Approval of Minutes
The minutes of June 19, 2008, were M/S/A without changes.
Note: Action items are underlined.
• Professional and Industry trends:
RFID: Radio-frequency identification (RFID) is an automatic identification method relying on
storing and remotely retrieving data using devices called RFID tags or transponders. An RFID
tag is an object that can be applied to or incorporated into a product, animal, or person for
the purpose of identification and tracking using radio waves. Some tags can be read from
several meters away and beyond the line of sight of the reader. Most RFID tags contain at
least two parts. One is an integrated circuit for storing and processing information,
modulating and demodulating a radio-frequency (RF) signal, and other specialized
functions. The second is an antenna for receiving and transmitting the signal. Today, RFID is
used in enterprise supply chain management to improve the efficiency of inventory tracking
and management. RFID is being used in businesses to promote real time location of
equipment which should result in a decrease in inventory up to 25%. Bates should consider
adding at least on overview of RFID into the curriculum. TCC offers a new program called
Logistics management and they have incorporated RFID in the curriculum.
Voice over IP: Voice over Internet Protocol is a general term for a family of transmission
technologies for delivery of voice communications over the Internet or other networks.
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VoIP systems usually interface with the traditional public switched telephone network to
allow for phone communications worldwide. VoIP can be a benefit for reducing
communication and infrastructure costs by routing phone calls over existing data networks
and avoiding duplicate network systems. This industry is growing because almost every
business is at least looking into it. Currently it is very expensive to install a VoIP system, but
as the cost decreases businesses will be using this technology. Students with exposure to
VoIP will probably have additional job opportunities.
Wireless: Wireless technology is a rapidly growing field.
Hiring: A decrease in hiring does not necessarily mean that there are no job openings.
Some businesses are waiting to see what is going to happen with the economy and the
political climate and are in a holding pattern.
Outsourcing: Business segments that have been typically outsourced include information
technology and human resources. Many companies also outsource customer support and
call center functions like telemarketing, CAD drafting, customer service, market research,
web development, and engineering. Outsourcing may have peaked and the trend may be
reversing. Businesses have found that service improves and actually less expensive when
they keep those segments in-house. Manufacturing will probably still be outsourced to
countries such as China.
• I-BEST Training: Integrated Basic Education and Skills Training will be offered in several of Bates
career training programs. This will allow students to receive needed basic skills instruction while
concurrently earning credit toward a degree or certificate and preparing for entry-level
employment. The SBCTC developed the I-BEST initiative to help underserved populations achieve a
livable wage. One of the programs selected is the Core Electronics course in the Advanced
Technologies Department because electronics related occupations have been identified as high
demand areas experiencing a shortage of skilled workers in Pierce County and Washington State. A
motion was introduced to support the I-BEST program. The motion was seconded and
• Computer Sciences Department Curriculum modification: The Web Developer, Software
Development and Database Management programs are developing standardized basic courses.
Upon completion students can then specialize in a specific career path. The input from the
committee has been instrumental in updating the curriculum to teach to new industry entry-level
It is important to know Access to work in Microsoft based businesses.
We should try to line up the curriculum between the Computer Sciences and Advanced
There was a discussion of articulation agreements.
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Transition to credit hours should be fairly smooth.
• Virtualization: It was again emphasized that we need to be teaching virtualization to our students
as virtualization of servers in the coming trend. The ITS and CNST programs are currently working
on developing curriculum and hands-on equipment for students.
CNST – Davis, John - Backman, Glen
Current Enrollment: 24
Additional Information: John Davis is the substitute teacher for Glen Backman and is
working with Emmett Peterson to provide continued instruction and support.
Computer Repair and Network Support - Denney, Tom & Toth, Joe
Current Enrollment: 24
Database Management – Graham, Judy
Current Enrollment: 7
Graduates: 0 since our last meeting.
Additional Information: The Database Management program has undergone changes since
our last meeting. We are creating a 5 class certificate program using Oracle technologies,
and a 2 year option track in conjunction with the Software Development program using SQL
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Electrical Power & Process Automation - Newman, Tom
Current Enrollment: 17
Graduates: 2 since our last meeting
Promotion/Outreach: I’m working with TagMaster America in an effort to develop an RFID
(Radio Frequency Identification) curriculum for the ATCS department. TagMaster is major
developer of RFID products founded in Sweden in 1994 and serves a global market.
TagMaster’s portion of the RFID market covers Vehicle Identification, Transportation, and
WBLA: One student remains on a work-based learning agreement with SRT Electronics, but
he will be graduating at the end of the current quarter and entering an electrical
apprenticeship with Boeing, once production resumes. This represents a milestone in our
partnership with Boeing since historically Boeing apprenticeships have only been available
to employees within the company.
Additional Information: Fanuc Robotics has informed me that we should have our new
robot by the end of October. There is a lot of interest in robotics and the robot comes at a
time when enrollments are projected to rise sharply. To appropriately accommodate a full
student load, we are in the process of moving the EPPA program to a larger instructional
area to be shared with Dave Skeen.
ITS - Peterson, Emmett
Current Enrollment: 32
Promotion/Outreach: Emmett Peterson represented the college at the Puyallup Fair.
WBLA: 1 at Microsoft.
o 2 students obtained their A+ certification this quarter.
o The computer repair shop is up and running and we are charging for our work.
o The PC User club continues to grow and plan upcoming event.
o I am continuing to content to the online Blackboard system in order to provide
students valuable resources; students utilize the system, add content and
collaborate as a group.
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Software Development - Achman, Dan & Graham, Judy
Current Enrollment: 29
Graduates: One who is now employed with Pierce County LESA.
Promotion/Outreach: Puyallup Fair
o We are continuing to work on curriculum changes.
o Judy and I have several training classes scheduled over the next few months at
Netdesk in Seattle.
Web Developer - Smith, Ingrid
Current Enrollment: 17
Graduates: Projected 2 Associate of Technology – transferrable - by end of Fall quarter
that need employment
Promotion/Outreach: Puyallup Fair
o We are still in process with development and restructuring of the current
o I participated in training for online course development and hope to integrate
such in the future.
o The program is seeing an increase of interest from potential students and is
looking for input on current employment outlook in the industry.
I would like some input from the advisory members in regards to the CIW (Certified
Internet Webmaster) certification track. There has been a push from the CIW vendor
towards high schools programs. Is industry is aware of this certification?
Wireless Voice & Data Communications - Robertson, Laura
Current Enrollment: 18
Graduates: None this quarter
Promotion/Outreach: Made some changes to wireless website-more streamline and easier
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• Enrollment: Enrollment is up college-wide and we are enjoying an increase in the ATCS programs
as well. The ITS program currently has a waiting list. When the economy is down enrollment
typically goes up as unemployed workers come to Bates for retraining.
• Budget: President Borofsky addressed the current state of the college budget. The state budget is
presently at a 3.2 billion dollar deficit. The governor has mandated that all heads of state agencies
make specific budget reductions, and Bates Technical College needs to make a $582,000 cutback.
Preparing for another possible request for reduction in the spring the Board of Trustees has
directed that we reduce our budget by $700,000 to $750,000. The President assured the
committee that everything humanly possible will be done to reduce the impact on students and
avoid a reduction in staff. The advisory committee members asked what they could do to help and
it was suggested they consider donations of equipment, etc. to the college and/or specific
• The Foundation sponsored Heart of Bates event is being held November 12 th from 5:30 pm to 8:30
pm at the Fircrest Golf Course. Honorees are Senator Rosa Franklin, alumnus Tony Lewis and
community partner MultiCare. Tickets are $100 each and all proceeds go to the Foundation to
provide student scholarships, mini grants and other student related services. Please see LeAnn if
you would like to purchase tickets.
• See attached list for additional events.
Good of the Order
• Laurie Arnold, the department’s new Career Specialist, has done a great job! We are at 90%
capacity and expect to improve from there.
• The meeting adjourned at 9:25 am.
Advisory Committee Meeting Attendance
Yes Aaron Todd
No Art Garverick
Yes Brad Butler
Yes Don Larson
Yes Greg Dickey
No James Calloway
Yes Jay Kruse
No Jon Johnson
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No Jim Underwood
Yes Kent Keel
Yes Martin Rodgriguez
No Max Mojarab
Yes Robert Bain
Yes Robert Riley
Yes Dan Achman
Yes David Skeen
Yes Emmett Peterson
No Glen Backman
Yes Ingrid Smith
No Joe Toth
Yes John Howard
Yes Judy Graham
Yes Laura Robertson
Yes Laurie Arnold
Yes LeAnn Dreier
No Tom Denney
Yes Tom Newman
Bates Technical College Events for the 2008-2009 School Year
Date & Time Event Location
10/14, 9:00 to 11:00 am Disability Awareness Day South
11/12, 5:30 - 8:30 pm Heart of Bates Fircrest Golf Club
12/4 & 5 BARC Holiday Food & Toy Drive
1/16 , 9:30 to 11:00am Martin Luther King, Jr. Celebration South,
1/19 9:00 to 11:00 am March to the Tacoma Dome Downtown/Tollefson Plaza
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2/ Bates Idol Downtown
3/23 , 9:00 am -1:00 pm Health Fair Downtown,
3/ , 7:15 to 9:00 am Scholarship Breakfast South,
4/ Bates Open House 9:30 am – 6:00 pm All Campuses
4/ , 5:30 pm to 8:30 pm Bates Sizzles Foundation Fundraiser Pacific Grill,
5/ “BARC at the Park” Rainiers Baseball Rainiers Baseball Stadium
5/ Career Fair Downtown
5/ Global Heritage South
Friday, 6/12 , 6:00 pm Graduation 2009! Dome Exhibition Hall,
Spring Golf Tournament Highland Golf Course
6/ Retirement Dinner Tacoma Elks Club
Friday, 7/ Staff Picnic South Campus
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