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Ryan Parrow

Dr. Oliver

Phil 1030

6 December 2011



                                Leap Into Faith: A Discussion

        In William James’ essay, The Will To Believe, he tried to find the definition of what

it really meant to him to have made a choice. He describes belief as, “The maximum of

liveness in hypothesis means willingness to act irrevocably”. This definition hints at the

fact that a belief doesn’t have to be factual as much as it has to have faith placed upon it by

the individual. He then describes that wherever there is an urge to act, there can be found

belief also. The idea that belief is a totally separate entity from truth is a fairly new and

original idea that most philosophers, especially positive ones, have neglected. This idea

enables the public to be able to decide what is true to them. Is truth relative or is it the belief

behind the truth that is relative? Maybe both of these entities are. This hypothesis removes

the idea of certainty and truth from the mass public. People are given the tools to shape

their own ideas and thought.

        James then divulges into the fact that one doesn’t necessarily chose his or her own

belief, but rather innately has them. There is no driving force or reasoning behind anyone’s

beliefs as much as they are just there. Yes, genetics and environment can play a great role

in crafting our beliefs, but they alone can’t transcribe all of the factors behind everyone’s

unique ideologies. What is it then that shapes how we think, feel, and act? Should we put

all of our faith into a belief that we don’t even know the reasoning behind why we have it?
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Is this a foolish inclination, or a natural disposition?

        James examines Pascal’s wager, and makes the claim that if one has no practical

use for religion, no matter the “risk”, they shouldn’t use it. What would be the purpose of

buying into a belief that wasn’t one’s own? I feel that some people shape themselves to

believe in religion, but one cannot simply make a cookie cutter outline for their beliefs. No

one’s beliefs are the same and they shouldn’t be treated as so.

        Why do individuals claim to hold the one “true” belief? Why can’t people

understand that there may not be a right and wrong answer? Could people live in a world of

ambiguity? People need reassurance that they’re right and that everyone else is wrong. I

don’t think people could handle the idea of being wrong; is pride worth ignorance? Does

belief inhibit free will? If we are conditioned throughout our whole life to believe

something, can we have the ability to change who we are?

        James claims that people who are skeptical are not avoiding a choice; they have

simply chosen the ideals of a skeptic. He believes that any beliefs are valid if they don’t

condemn the beliefs of others. Is it a condemnation of his own, to condemn the beliefs of

the condemners? The Will To Believe is a tale from a visionary who wants to find concrete

guidelines in which to define belief. Maybe belief is vaguer than words can define. I think

everyone should have the ability to philosophize on what belief means to them, even if it is

closed minded. Just the very fact that they are speaking their thoughts is good for the

community.

        People ask everyday what they should be doing with their lives. Regardless of

whether or not they know, they are doing it each and every day. James asserts that if we

choose to be secular or theist, or any combination of the above, we have still made a choice.
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Neal Peart, the lyricist and drummer for Rush, wrote , “If you choose not to decide, you

still have made a choice.” These are comforting lines in a world that has growing

ambiguity.

       To delve deeper into the thoughts of choice, I decided to get a second opinion on

my many inquiries about this issue at hand. I had an interview with Tyler Parrow, my

brother and an undergraduate in political science, to get another approach on these many

ideas. I have below, a sample from some of the many questions I asked him during the

length of my interview with him.



Ryan: Do you believe that people should have relentless faith?

Tyler: In short, no. Having relentless faith is really what holds back the fabric of society

       from progression. Looking at things from a historically way, you see an ebb and

       flow from where faith is placed. So faith being relentless is an oxymoron. A person

       can have relentless faith their entire life, but it’s obvious that the foundations of

       what people believe changes from generation to generation. The status quo, for

       instance in 1850 where slavery was accepted in America, differs greatly from

       contemporary belief. Today it’s seen as inhumane, their faith in the subject has

       changed. The same could be said for Christianity, one needs to only look at the

       Middle Ages and the Inquisition, we see a drastic change in where faith is placed. If

       faith can be reformed it isn’t relentless. If culture can dictate, if culture can say do

       not have faith, challenge everything, and question anything that has no evidence,

       the growth of humanity would become exponential to a more moral and efficient

       society.
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Ryan: Do you believe the faith of society is fickle?

Tyler: Historical determinism empirically shows that faith must change. Faith must be

       fickle in order to adapt, thus faith is dependent on the zeitgeist of society. The

       difficulty comes with the concept of the individual, who must take everything on

       some sort of faith. At a young age we’re told that the sky is blue, drive on the right

       side of the road, and eat three meals a day. The ultimately flaw of the individual is

       that we must accept ideas on faith alone until we are able to create our own

       ideology. When religion is an example of faith, nothing could be more fickle. In a

       globalizing world of information and culture, even the most broad of religious,

       Christianity, must denominate itself to match the faith wanted by certain sects of

       belief. Even then, people will always make faith a personal system, picking and

       choosing beliefs in a way that best suits them. Ultimately, mythical anthologies like

       the Quran or the Bible are meaningless without faith. The logic is “this piece of

       paper is true because it says so right here on this sheet of paper.” This is the

       definition of faith, and when we see the basic fallacy of the argument, it is clear that

       faith must be fickle in order to survive.



Ryan: Are there any examples of a faith that wasn’t fickle and yet survived?

Tyler: I suppose it depends on how one looks at faith. What we see is taken on faith that we

       actually see it, and can prove it’s there by other methods of faith. Science and

       philosophy are the only faiths that have transcended time, and even then it is

       because both those schools of faith accept their fickle nature and exist to be
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       changed. However, faiths that are not self-aware seek to destroy this institution,

       which once again leads me back to religion whose sole goal today is to destroy

       changeable faiths. We see this everyday in the debate over what should be taught in

       schools, intelligent design or what actually happened. Intelligent design is an idea

       that exists, and cannot be changed. Science and astrophysics accept change and

       hope to be disproved. Faith in my opinion is a living progression, or at least should

       be.



Ryan: If faith is always progressing, where is it headed?

Tyler: Well you’ve managed to hit THE question. I am not sure but over the past year I’ve

       done a lot of studying into two philosopher’s ideas of where it is headed: Hegel and

       Marx. To summarize them in an interview would be a crime to their ideologies but

       in short, I ascribe to the notion that modern faith is headed to a more self-aware

       existence. What Marx called class awareness of the proletariat, I see more as a

       social awareness of the common denominators of mankind. These are basic rights

       such as life, liberty, and property, Karl would most definitely not agree to the latter

       of those. I think faith is headed in the direction where a man can look at another

       man, regardless of language, culture, or ethnicity, and have faith that they have the

       same desires, needs, and rights.



Ryan: Are the basic rights of life just another faith that society has come to believe?

Tyler: Absolutely. They are part of the progression of faith, a systemic progression towards

       prosperity. The basic rights I named, mainly life and liberty, I believe are rights that
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       preserve a fluidity of faith. When a people are allowed to live and to do so freely,

       they are also free to exercise and develop their faith. The right of property comes

       along with the liberty to act in the modern economic system how they choose, but if

       general faith in the corporatist, crony-capitalist system changes, so too could that

       right. These basic rights represent an end point to certain facets of faith, proved to

       be true by years of trial and tribulation.



Ryan: Are the basic rights of humans innate, or does society program the public to believe

       in them?

Tyler: Yes and no. Absolutely we all start off, when we’re born, with a tabula rosa that is

       molded to believe what we’re told to believe. In the same sense, there are certain

       feelings, pain for instance, that are relatable between all mankind and cannot be

       taught. Pain is then an innate human emotion and we can all agree we have a right

       to not suffer pain without reason if at all. I cannot pretend that I am free of the

       indoctrination of society values, but I strive to question in a Socratic way

       everything I take for granted. This is the struggle, to break down the walls of

       existence as you see them and then attempt to create something better on the blank

       palate that is left. Disagreement exists for the soul purpose of changing faith, for

       better of for worse. Sadly, the “programming” of humanity is only seen by those

       that break free of it, the intellectuals I presume. The programmed can only believe

       they are free, but they are lazy, ignorant, and ultimately, by power of majority,

       guide the world.
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Ryan: Should everyone respect one another’s faith?

Tyler: No, that’s impossible. Once again, the issue of Christian faith defeats any hope of

       respect. Don’t get me wrong, I could respect their faith if so much of my, and yours

       I’m sure, didn’t revolve around their faith. Wars, both past and modern, are based

       on a disrespect of different faiths and more often than not this is religion. Look at

       modern America for instance; we claim to be fighting a war against Terrorism. This

       is a contradiction, because terrorism isn’t an ideology, it’s a tactic dating back to

       the words inception during the French “Great Terror”. A war on terror is like a war

       of J-walking, which is just a method of crossing the road. No, the military presence

       isn’t about destroying the Muslim faith, but fear and disrespect from the Christian

       faith help to gain support from the general Christian population.

       To answer your question, yes we “should” respect all faiths, but all faiths have to

       carry themselves respectfully to be respected.



       After much analysis of his ideas, I’ve found that we share similar ideas but we

differ in other areas. I could make the connection that the ideas that we do share could be

founded by our close genetics and environment, but maybe there is a much larger force that

has propelled us to make ideals that are original to ourselves and the similarities are just

coincidental. Could most people be related solely by the society in which they live? Do my

ideals relate to someone’s in another country just solely on the basis that we live in the

same era?

       Tyler believes that as long as people have differences in beliefs, there will always

be turmoil. If nobody shares the exact same ideas, how can we be unified as a species?
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Does everyone have to share the exact same ideas in order to be able to appreciate the

constant flow of information and ideologies throughout the system of life? Are humans too

wrapped up in their own selfish thinking that we can’t all unite together under the

understanding that we all have founding principles? Respect and agreement don’t have to

be the same exact thing.

       In the end this issue is very open ended. There is no right or wrong answer, which is

what I think William James was trying to get at. His philosophy seems very

groundbreaking in its argumentation and is still valid today. His words had a connotation

that seemed to counteract any biasness that he may have felt towards any singular belief. I

feel that is what everyone should do in this every changing world in which we live. We

need to be accepting if we all want to survive peacefully with one another.
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                                     Works Cited

Tyler Parrow. Personal Interview. 18 Nov, 2011.

James, William. The Will to Believe: And Other Essays in Popular Philosophy ; And,

       Human Immortality : Two Supposed Objections to the Doctrine. New York:

       Dover Publications, 1956. Print

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Phil

  • 1. Parrow 1 Ryan Parrow Dr. Oliver Phil 1030 6 December 2011 Leap Into Faith: A Discussion In William James’ essay, The Will To Believe, he tried to find the definition of what it really meant to him to have made a choice. He describes belief as, “The maximum of liveness in hypothesis means willingness to act irrevocably”. This definition hints at the fact that a belief doesn’t have to be factual as much as it has to have faith placed upon it by the individual. He then describes that wherever there is an urge to act, there can be found belief also. The idea that belief is a totally separate entity from truth is a fairly new and original idea that most philosophers, especially positive ones, have neglected. This idea enables the public to be able to decide what is true to them. Is truth relative or is it the belief behind the truth that is relative? Maybe both of these entities are. This hypothesis removes the idea of certainty and truth from the mass public. People are given the tools to shape their own ideas and thought. James then divulges into the fact that one doesn’t necessarily chose his or her own belief, but rather innately has them. There is no driving force or reasoning behind anyone’s beliefs as much as they are just there. Yes, genetics and environment can play a great role in crafting our beliefs, but they alone can’t transcribe all of the factors behind everyone’s unique ideologies. What is it then that shapes how we think, feel, and act? Should we put all of our faith into a belief that we don’t even know the reasoning behind why we have it?
  • 2. Parrow 2 Is this a foolish inclination, or a natural disposition? James examines Pascal’s wager, and makes the claim that if one has no practical use for religion, no matter the “risk”, they shouldn’t use it. What would be the purpose of buying into a belief that wasn’t one’s own? I feel that some people shape themselves to believe in religion, but one cannot simply make a cookie cutter outline for their beliefs. No one’s beliefs are the same and they shouldn’t be treated as so. Why do individuals claim to hold the one “true” belief? Why can’t people understand that there may not be a right and wrong answer? Could people live in a world of ambiguity? People need reassurance that they’re right and that everyone else is wrong. I don’t think people could handle the idea of being wrong; is pride worth ignorance? Does belief inhibit free will? If we are conditioned throughout our whole life to believe something, can we have the ability to change who we are? James claims that people who are skeptical are not avoiding a choice; they have simply chosen the ideals of a skeptic. He believes that any beliefs are valid if they don’t condemn the beliefs of others. Is it a condemnation of his own, to condemn the beliefs of the condemners? The Will To Believe is a tale from a visionary who wants to find concrete guidelines in which to define belief. Maybe belief is vaguer than words can define. I think everyone should have the ability to philosophize on what belief means to them, even if it is closed minded. Just the very fact that they are speaking their thoughts is good for the community. People ask everyday what they should be doing with their lives. Regardless of whether or not they know, they are doing it each and every day. James asserts that if we choose to be secular or theist, or any combination of the above, we have still made a choice.
  • 3. Parrow 3 Neal Peart, the lyricist and drummer for Rush, wrote , “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” These are comforting lines in a world that has growing ambiguity. To delve deeper into the thoughts of choice, I decided to get a second opinion on my many inquiries about this issue at hand. I had an interview with Tyler Parrow, my brother and an undergraduate in political science, to get another approach on these many ideas. I have below, a sample from some of the many questions I asked him during the length of my interview with him. Ryan: Do you believe that people should have relentless faith? Tyler: In short, no. Having relentless faith is really what holds back the fabric of society from progression. Looking at things from a historically way, you see an ebb and flow from where faith is placed. So faith being relentless is an oxymoron. A person can have relentless faith their entire life, but it’s obvious that the foundations of what people believe changes from generation to generation. The status quo, for instance in 1850 where slavery was accepted in America, differs greatly from contemporary belief. Today it’s seen as inhumane, their faith in the subject has changed. The same could be said for Christianity, one needs to only look at the Middle Ages and the Inquisition, we see a drastic change in where faith is placed. If faith can be reformed it isn’t relentless. If culture can dictate, if culture can say do not have faith, challenge everything, and question anything that has no evidence, the growth of humanity would become exponential to a more moral and efficient society.
  • 4. Parrow 4 Ryan: Do you believe the faith of society is fickle? Tyler: Historical determinism empirically shows that faith must change. Faith must be fickle in order to adapt, thus faith is dependent on the zeitgeist of society. The difficulty comes with the concept of the individual, who must take everything on some sort of faith. At a young age we’re told that the sky is blue, drive on the right side of the road, and eat three meals a day. The ultimately flaw of the individual is that we must accept ideas on faith alone until we are able to create our own ideology. When religion is an example of faith, nothing could be more fickle. In a globalizing world of information and culture, even the most broad of religious, Christianity, must denominate itself to match the faith wanted by certain sects of belief. Even then, people will always make faith a personal system, picking and choosing beliefs in a way that best suits them. Ultimately, mythical anthologies like the Quran or the Bible are meaningless without faith. The logic is “this piece of paper is true because it says so right here on this sheet of paper.” This is the definition of faith, and when we see the basic fallacy of the argument, it is clear that faith must be fickle in order to survive. Ryan: Are there any examples of a faith that wasn’t fickle and yet survived? Tyler: I suppose it depends on how one looks at faith. What we see is taken on faith that we actually see it, and can prove it’s there by other methods of faith. Science and philosophy are the only faiths that have transcended time, and even then it is because both those schools of faith accept their fickle nature and exist to be
  • 5. Parrow 5 changed. However, faiths that are not self-aware seek to destroy this institution, which once again leads me back to religion whose sole goal today is to destroy changeable faiths. We see this everyday in the debate over what should be taught in schools, intelligent design or what actually happened. Intelligent design is an idea that exists, and cannot be changed. Science and astrophysics accept change and hope to be disproved. Faith in my opinion is a living progression, or at least should be. Ryan: If faith is always progressing, where is it headed? Tyler: Well you’ve managed to hit THE question. I am not sure but over the past year I’ve done a lot of studying into two philosopher’s ideas of where it is headed: Hegel and Marx. To summarize them in an interview would be a crime to their ideologies but in short, I ascribe to the notion that modern faith is headed to a more self-aware existence. What Marx called class awareness of the proletariat, I see more as a social awareness of the common denominators of mankind. These are basic rights such as life, liberty, and property, Karl would most definitely not agree to the latter of those. I think faith is headed in the direction where a man can look at another man, regardless of language, culture, or ethnicity, and have faith that they have the same desires, needs, and rights. Ryan: Are the basic rights of life just another faith that society has come to believe? Tyler: Absolutely. They are part of the progression of faith, a systemic progression towards prosperity. The basic rights I named, mainly life and liberty, I believe are rights that
  • 6. Parrow 6 preserve a fluidity of faith. When a people are allowed to live and to do so freely, they are also free to exercise and develop their faith. The right of property comes along with the liberty to act in the modern economic system how they choose, but if general faith in the corporatist, crony-capitalist system changes, so too could that right. These basic rights represent an end point to certain facets of faith, proved to be true by years of trial and tribulation. Ryan: Are the basic rights of humans innate, or does society program the public to believe in them? Tyler: Yes and no. Absolutely we all start off, when we’re born, with a tabula rosa that is molded to believe what we’re told to believe. In the same sense, there are certain feelings, pain for instance, that are relatable between all mankind and cannot be taught. Pain is then an innate human emotion and we can all agree we have a right to not suffer pain without reason if at all. I cannot pretend that I am free of the indoctrination of society values, but I strive to question in a Socratic way everything I take for granted. This is the struggle, to break down the walls of existence as you see them and then attempt to create something better on the blank palate that is left. Disagreement exists for the soul purpose of changing faith, for better of for worse. Sadly, the “programming” of humanity is only seen by those that break free of it, the intellectuals I presume. The programmed can only believe they are free, but they are lazy, ignorant, and ultimately, by power of majority, guide the world.
  • 7. Parrow 7 Ryan: Should everyone respect one another’s faith? Tyler: No, that’s impossible. Once again, the issue of Christian faith defeats any hope of respect. Don’t get me wrong, I could respect their faith if so much of my, and yours I’m sure, didn’t revolve around their faith. Wars, both past and modern, are based on a disrespect of different faiths and more often than not this is religion. Look at modern America for instance; we claim to be fighting a war against Terrorism. This is a contradiction, because terrorism isn’t an ideology, it’s a tactic dating back to the words inception during the French “Great Terror”. A war on terror is like a war of J-walking, which is just a method of crossing the road. No, the military presence isn’t about destroying the Muslim faith, but fear and disrespect from the Christian faith help to gain support from the general Christian population. To answer your question, yes we “should” respect all faiths, but all faiths have to carry themselves respectfully to be respected. After much analysis of his ideas, I’ve found that we share similar ideas but we differ in other areas. I could make the connection that the ideas that we do share could be founded by our close genetics and environment, but maybe there is a much larger force that has propelled us to make ideals that are original to ourselves and the similarities are just coincidental. Could most people be related solely by the society in which they live? Do my ideals relate to someone’s in another country just solely on the basis that we live in the same era? Tyler believes that as long as people have differences in beliefs, there will always be turmoil. If nobody shares the exact same ideas, how can we be unified as a species?
  • 8. Parrow 8 Does everyone have to share the exact same ideas in order to be able to appreciate the constant flow of information and ideologies throughout the system of life? Are humans too wrapped up in their own selfish thinking that we can’t all unite together under the understanding that we all have founding principles? Respect and agreement don’t have to be the same exact thing. In the end this issue is very open ended. There is no right or wrong answer, which is what I think William James was trying to get at. His philosophy seems very groundbreaking in its argumentation and is still valid today. His words had a connotation that seemed to counteract any biasness that he may have felt towards any singular belief. I feel that is what everyone should do in this every changing world in which we live. We need to be accepting if we all want to survive peacefully with one another.
  • 9. Parrow 9 Works Cited Tyler Parrow. Personal Interview. 18 Nov, 2011. James, William. The Will to Believe: And Other Essays in Popular Philosophy ; And, Human Immortality : Two Supposed Objections to the Doctrine. New York: Dover Publications, 1956. Print