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RNchat Transcript for April 30, 2010

Transcript for RNchat - a Twitter chat for registered nurses.

Follow @RNchat - http://Twitter.com/RNchat
Visit http://RNchat.org

Topics Include:

T1 Marketing Fake Patients: What do you think of marketers creating fake patients to represent products/services? #RNchat

T2 Trust in Pharma: How much do you trust Pharma? What specific practices do you unapprove or approve? #RNchat

T3 IM Injections: Do you still aspirate intramuscular injections? ;) from @Aggiern95 #RNchat

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RNchat Transcript for April 30, 2010

  1. 1. rnchat: 101 Blog Posts Every Nurse Should Read - http://bit.ly/aG70tj #RNchat 4/30/2010 07:55 rnchat: Today's #RNchat is at 11:30am EST! 4/30/2010 09:10 rnchat: For our #RNchat at 11:30am EST today consider using http://TweetChat.com or http://TweetGrid.com 4/30/2010 11:03 rnchat: Welcome to another #RNchat! We have 3 topics today. We'll get started soon. But let's begin with introductions. What's your passion? 4/30/2010 11:30 EllenRichter: Nice to be here even if its just for 30 minutes! Hi, I'm a critical care nurse and legal nurse consultant from S. Fla #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:32 InfusionNurse: Good afternoon to all! I'm Cora, infusion nurse..glad to be here today! #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:33 rnchat: Our first topic is coming up in a moment. When responding to a topic, please prepend your tweet with T1, T2, etc. #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:34 nursingpins: Hey all - Vernon in new Orleans - Critical Care #rnchat 4/30/2010 11:35 rnchat: T1 Marketing Fake Patients: What do you think of marketers creating fake patients as representatives? (Even if it's disclosed.) #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:35 onlinenursing: Hey guys just in and out... working on ANF grant to mail today! #RNChat Terri here, Missouri RN 4/30/2010 11:36 EllenRichter: T1 What do you mean "fake patient"? You mean a model instead of a real patient? #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:36 visiting_nurse: Heather here, gLad 2 participate,. passion for visiting nurse service in the community #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:36 nursingpins: T1 - have not thought about it - will have to pay more attention. #rnchat 4/30/2010 11:37 onlinenursing: T1 - #RNChat... What? you mean like in commercials? I hate that. I am not a fan of fake anything (or pharma marketing in general) 4/30/2010 11:37 InfusionNurse: T1 - u mean for advertising medications? #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:38 EllenRichter: T1 Marketing is a way of making a sales pitch. It really shouldnt necessitate REAL patients in order to be effective #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:39
  2. 2. KPNurseRecruit: RT @RNchat: Welcome to another #RNchat! We have 3 topics. We'll get started soon. But let's begin with introductions. What's your passion? 4/30/2010 11:40 nursingpins: T1 - There are enough real stories out there - stories should be verifiable - and require ref. #rnchat 4/30/2010 11:40 EllenRichter: @nursingpins T1 I think it depends on whats being marketed. Real stories many not be needed to make their point. #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:42 Cogneclecticism: New nurse here, recent graduate. My passion is Health Information Technology and Teaching. #RNChat 4/30/2010 11:43 KPNurseRecruit: Driving (safely) for now--will jump in to #rnchat @ destination. It's going to be a great Friday. 4/30/2010 11:45 EllenRichter: @visiting_nurse @Cogneclecticism Nice to see some new folks joining in! Welcome~ #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:45 EllenRichter: T1 LOL, at my hospital we have screensavers of nurses & doctors. None of them are real staff & we do get kinda P'd off at that! :) #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:47 InfusionNurse: T1 - aren't pharma marketing regulated...ie..what they can say whether using real or fake patients? #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:48 Cogneclecticism: @EllenRichter Thank you. Working on my BS no job yet few openings but designing an iphone application for nursing sturdents #RNChat 4/30/2010 11:49 nursingpins: T1 - another reason nurses and potential patients should be able to reach a nurse at hosp. web-sites - to ask quests. (none have it) #rnchat 4/30/2010 11:50 EllenRichter: T1 Many times the average patient doesnt video or photograph well. Not sure why model patients are a turnoff for advertising? #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:52 lisagualtieri: TI One company was fined for fake stories, http://is.gd/aIB1h. I agree w/@nursingpins - enough real stories out there #rnchat 4/30/2010 11:53 rnchat: Our next topic coming up in one minute. #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:54 visiting_nurse: RT @Visiting_Nurse: T1 - only benefit on fake patients is during training to improve care other than that not a fan of them #rnchat 4/30/2010 11:55 EllenRichter: @lisagualtieri @nursingpins T1 Why cant we use the real stories but have paid actors for health care profnls & patients? Is that OK? #RNchat
  3. 3. 4/30/2010 11:55 rnchat: T2 Trust in Pharma: How much do you trust Pharma? What specific practices do you unapprove or approve? #RNchat 4/30/2010 11:55 nursingpins: T1 I have learned that you can trust about 50% of what the advertisements/detail reps say - the other 50% is questionable. #rnchat 4/30/2010 11:58 EllenRichter: T2 As far as pharma, I never liked the obligatory "gifting" that always occurred with their product use. Its not as prevalent now. #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:00 visiting_nurse: T2 none given the recent articles on study manipulation 2 gain fda apprvl n addition 2 sway on clinical study researchrs $ or inkind #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:01 EllenRichter: I have a teleconference in a few minutes & will do my best to multitask, but will say "have a great weekend" in case I get diverted! #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:02 onlinenursing: #RNChat Pharma is good.They make the meds I use.However, tride & true meds like HCTZ, Lisinopril, etc & invention of 4$ med list @ Walmart 4/30/2010 12:04 InfusionNurse: T2 - trust Pharma on clinical data...#RNchat 4/30/2010 12:04 nursingpins: T2 for years the whole pharma/dr./hospital culture was based on gifts/kb etc - phama was just the last out the door with the pins. #rnchat 4/30/2010 12:04 onlinenursing: #RNChat these things have changed my need 4 pharma/drug reps in the clinical setting (using less samples 4 my uninsured thxs to 4$ list) 4/30/2010 12:05 Cogneclecticism: #RNChat T2 From what Ive read, they put profit before patient safety at times Plus fast- track their clinical trials on pseudo-new drugs. 4/30/2010 12:08 Cogneclecticism: #RNChat T2 But I have no way of knowing how true those accusations are 4/30/2010 12:08 visiting_nurse: T2 I also blame them for the decline n the true science behind journal http://bit.ly/cbPa7e #rnchat 4/30/2010 12:09 Cogneclecticism: #RNChat I agree with @onlinenursing 4$ meds at walmart save me a bunch. One of my meds is like 420 per month w/no co-pay 4/30/2010 12:10 nursingpins: T2 - some drug reps are great - they were the only ones who knew how dopamine really worked when it first came our :) #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:11 EllenRichter: T2 The general public sees drug companies as being in this biz for the money, not for the
  4. 4. end outcomes, which doesnt promote trust #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:11 Cogneclecticism: @visiting_nurse #RNChat Agreed. They re-market old drugs under new names but don't they all... 4/30/2010 12:11 onlinenursing: T2- Besides insurance companies,pharma r who make the $ in h/c so it is difficult not 2B suspicious.We need them,but pts. need truth #RNChat 4/30/2010 12:12 visiting_nurse: #rnchat that said i do appreciate them when they support CE activities through unrestricted grants & stay out of the development of activity 4/30/2010 12:13 Cogneclecticism: #RNChat Cool thing in news yesterday was the Prostate Cancer Vaccine...was prevented from market for years more money in Chemo 4/30/2010 12:13 onlinenursing: T2- #RNChat I hate when they 'reformulate' oldcheap meds 2 extend patent.Also,someone tell me why wellbutrin still costs $200/mth gen? 4/30/2010 12:14 EllenRichter: RT @KPNurseRecruit: Skipping back to T1 for a min, here's more info on the fake epatient (thanks, Phil): http://is.gd/bJbUQ #RNchat lively convo on last #hcsm 4/30/2010 12:15 rnchat: Final topic coming up in a moment! #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:16 Cogneclecticism: @onlinenursing #RNChat Ever read the so-called ingredient changes on a new release drug? Look up the changes on google..its funny 4/30/2010 12:17 Cogneclecticism: @onlinenursing #RNChat My Abilify is $420/month 4/30/2010 12:18 nursingpins: T2 I think the Empowered Pt Coalition will be responsible for a lot of truth comming out http://www.empoweredpatientcoalition.org/ #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:18 InfusionNurse: T3 - I was taught to do that...why stop now? #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:19 NursePru: T3 I still aspirate IM's. #rnchat 4/30/2010 12:20 visiting_nurse: LOL some habits r hard 2 break. Im inconsistent. Show me the EBP RT @InfusionNurse: T3 - I was taught to do that...why stop now? #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:20 NUR3563: RT @nursingpins T2 I think Empowered Pt Coalition will be responsible 4 a lot of truth comming out http://bit.ly/bJ5IMX #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:20 onlinenursing: RT @nursingpins T2 I think Empowered Pt Coalition will be responsible 4 a lot of truth comming out http://bit.ly/bJ5IMX #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:20
  5. 5. KPNurseRecruit: Strategy meeting in 9 minutes. Must zip. Thanks for hosting #RNChat. Let's use our energy to make a positive difference. 4/30/2010 12:21 InfusionNurse: @visiting_nurse ..I'm an IV nurse, dont do much IM...LOL can u show the EBP why not aspirate? #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:22 Aggiern95: #RNchat T3. Well the CDC states you do not need to on vacc admin. Personally I still do but some textbooks say no 4/30/2010 12:22 onlinenursing: T3 - Aspirate IM's but never Sub-Q. However, the research on IM aspiration is controv. http://bit.ly/cuTFDz (via STTI) #RNChat 4/30/2010 12:23 InfusionNurse: @onlinenursing ..link didn't work - can u repost? #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:24 visiting_nurse: #rnchat @onlinenursing thank you I was also visiting http://bit.ly/9DfFD7 4/30/2010 12:27 rnchat: We're coming up on one hour. Feel free to continue discussing topics if you'd like. #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:29 onlinenursing: #RNChat @InfusionNurse - yep try this - http://bit.ly/bVWRBF @visiting_nurse got the link too :) 4/30/2010 12:29 visiting_nurse: @RNchat thank you for hosting #rnchat it was fun! 4/30/2010 12:30 onlinenursing: @Cogneclecticism #RNChat... yes med prices are crazy! 4/30/2010 12:30 rnchat: THANK YOU everybody! We'll put up a transcript in a little bit. Note: We're also on Facebook - http://Facebook.com/RNchat #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:30 rnchat: Our next #RNchat will be Friday 5/7 11:30am EST! See you then! 4/30/2010 12:32 nursingpins: #RNchat Thanks Phil - good to see all - later. 4/30/2010 12:32 lisagualtieri: Great post about faux patients by @PhilBaumann http://is.gd/bJbUQ #RNchat via @EllenRichter & @KPNurseRecruit 4/30/2010 12:32 InfusionNurse: Thanks Phil..thanks everyone for a great chat. Have a great weekend to all!! #RNchat 4/30/2010 12:34 nursingpins: Just noticed I only saw about 1/2 the tweets with tweetchat - and was slow? #rnchat 4/30/2010 12:39
  6. 6. InfusionNurse: @onlinenursing @visiting_nurse ..thanks for the link...that is interesting...#RNchat 4/30/2010 12:44 amednews: RT @lisagualtieri Great post about faux patients by @PhilBaumann http://is.gd/bJbUQ #RNchat via @EllenRichter 4/30/2010 13:11 CPHospital: RT @rwjf: Interesting post for new nurses: RT @RNchat: 101 Blog Posts Every Nurse Should Read - http://bit.ly/aG70tj #RNchat 4/30/2010 13:24 HANYScomm: RT @RWJF: Interesting post for new nurses: RT @RNchat: 101 Blog Posts Every #Nurse Should Read - http://bit.ly/aG70tj #RNchat #rn #lpn 4/30/2010 13:33 jmallder: RT @AmJNurs: RT @PHMIWorld: 101 Blog Posts Every Nurse Should Read - http://bit.ly/aG70tj #RNchat 4/30/2010 13:39 rnchat: @onlinenursing Sure - transcript's coming up soon! #rnchat 4/30/2010 13:46 touch4healing: RT @rnchat: @onlinenursing Sure - transcript's coming up soon! #rnchat 4/30/2010 13:49

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