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Inside a Real Pomsky Scam
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Pomsky Scams - Breaking Down a Real Pomsky Scam (step by step)

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Step by step breakdown of a real pomsky scam. The pomeranian husky world is full of scams, don't fall victim to a pomsky breeder scam. Take an inside look at our breakdown of the email exchange between a breeder and a pomsky shopper leading up to a pomsky scam. Complete with a full breakdown, analysis, and tips of the scam.

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Pomsky Scams - Breaking Down a Real Pomsky Scam (step by step)

  1. 1. Inside a Real Pomsky Scam Presented By: Pomsky Owners Association
  2. 2. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Intro to the scam: Meet the parties of the scam Emails: See the actual email communication leading up to the scam Analysis: Our insight into each email and the steps in the scam Red Flags: We’ll point out the red flags indicating a scam Tips: Our tips to determine what’s a scam and how to avoid a scam all together Breakdown of an actual pomsky scam
  3. 3. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review This is a true story. A subscriber (Debbie), has allowed us to publish her email conversation that led up to the $800 pomsky scam. Debbie wants to help others avoid pomsky scams; we’re going to breakdown Debbie’s interactions step by so you can identify the red flags 1. Size of parents Debbie Pomsky shopper Ed Williams Scamming pomsky “breeder” The Beginning Debbie found Ed Williams Pomskies through a simple “pomskies for sale in Oklahoma” Google search Debbie asked Ed to call but he was always “too busy” for a phone call, so all communications took place through email. In the next slides we will show you the emails leading up to the scam.
  4. 4. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The First Contact
  5. 5. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The First Contact Analysis The email sounds very legitimate! He mentions: • Info about the pomsky • Price • What’s included with the sale • Contact info • Asks Debbie to answer some questions. Seems like a real breeder…
  6. 6. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The First Contact Red Flags But there’s some red flags… 1. Wrong website: notice the website listed at the bottom does not match the website Debbie signed up on. 2. Price: $625 is WAY below the average price of a pomsky
  7. 7. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Setup Email #1
  8. 8. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Setup Email #1 Analysis Breeder still seems legitimate: • Seems respectable • Considerate of Debbie’s concerns • Says “we like to meet our customers in person” This is the process of setting the customer up for the scam. Ed is building trust with Debbie so that next, he can ask for personal information and payment.
  9. 9. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Setup Email #2
  10. 10. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Setup Email #2 Analysis After a couple emails back and forth Ed is already talking about the transfer of ownership, sales contract, and a deposit. Debbie barely even had a chance to ask questions! Unfortunately, this happens all too often. The buyer is too excited. They just found the perfect pomsky! They want to pay and get their puppy as soon as possible.
  11. 11. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Payment Request Email
  12. 12. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Payment Request Email Analysis In the payment request email below, Ed is asking Debbie to transfer $400 through a western union wire transfer to reserve her pomsky.
  13. 13. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Payment Request Email Red Flags 1. Name: Who is David Mabin? This whole time Ed Williams has been talking to us but now we’re sending money to David? 2. Phone Number: The phone number doesn’t match. The website phone number is listed as (210) 600-0770 but this western union transfer request has the phone number listed as (210) 465-1927 3. Zip code: In earlier emails, Ed says they are located in Irving Texas but the zip code 77001 seen in the payment request email is Houston Texas (almost 4 hours away from Irving)
  14. 14. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Contract Contract Page 2Contract Page 1 Contract Page 3
  15. 15. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Contract Contract Page 2Contract Page 1 Contract Page 3 Analysis This is the three page contract from Ed Williams Pomskies. Debbie was required to fill this out and send it back.
  16. 16. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Contract Contract Page 2Contract Page 1 Contract Page 3 Red Flags 1. Watermark: There’s a watermark across the contract that says “Michael Richards Pomsky Pups Farm” 2. Colors: The colors seem patched together, see for example the “Our payment regulations” section on page two of the contract. This section seems patched together.
  17. 17. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Contract Contract Page 2Contract Page 1 Contract Page 3 Tips • Call the breeder – ask them about any concerns that you have • Different payment method - ask the breeder to use a different and safer payment method • Public advice - post the contracts to a legal advice forum for advice on the legitimacy of the contract • DON’T get bullied – don’t get pushed into signing the contract if you’re not comfortable. If the breeder pushes you, walk away.
  18. 18. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Transfer of Ownership
  19. 19. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Transfer of Ownership Analysis This is likely a real transfer of ownership contract downloaded from online, it’s tough to tell if this is legitimate or not.
  20. 20. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The First Payment
  21. 21. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The First Payment Analysis Notice a couple things: • The breeder keeps complaining about being too “busy” • The breeder bullies Debbie into paying; saying “if you don’t feel comfortable dealing with us then you can as well buy from other breeders” In this case, the bullying worked. Debbie paid $400 through a Western Union wire transfer for her pomsky. Tip No reputable breeder will EVER bully you into paying. A scam just wants money. A real breeder wants the perfect home for the pomsky.
  22. 22. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Excuses
  23. 23. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Excuses Analysis Debbie is asking for new pictures of her pomsky. • This is good! • This is our #2 tip to avoiding pomsky scams published in our blog 6 tips to avoid pomsky scams. Red Flags All of the sudden, the excuses begin... The breeder is away from home and can’t send new pictures. (uh oh)
  24. 24. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Still Busy…
  25. 25. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Still Busy… Red Flags Ed the breeder always seems to be “busy” • Too busy for a phone call • Too busy to take new pictures • Too busy to set a time to meet The scammer is distancing themselves. They’re preparing to breakoff all contact
  26. 26. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Can’t Meet in Person
  27. 27. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Can’t Meet in Person Analysis Remember back in email #1 when Ed says “we like to meet our customers in person” I guess he had a change of heart. Now he’s “too busy to meet” Red Flags 1. Ed doesn’t want to meet in person 2. He’s still making excuses that he’s too busy 3. Now Debbie will have to pay MORE money for shipping
  28. 28. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Another $345 For Shipping
  29. 29. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Another $345 For Shipping Analysis Since Ed is too busy to meet in person, he’ll have to ship the pomsky. He knows you want your pomsky as soon as possible, so “How about shipping?” Heck he’ll even “cover part of the expenses” what a nice guy! Now Debbie is being charged an additional $345 to cover shipping expenses and remember, she already paid a $400 deposit!
  30. 30. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Vague Shipping Details
  31. 31. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Vague Shipping Details Analysis Ed says we are “going to ship in the early hours tomorrow” Red Flags 1. Ed says we “can’t guarantee flight time”.
  32. 32. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Shipping – Last Scam Effort
  33. 33. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: Shipping – Last Scam Effort Analysis This scam is very tricky. They even go as far as sending courier confirmation emails to Debbie. Notice Ed is asking for MORE money, saying the courier service requires a refundable life insurance deposit and he’s again “busy” The last step This is the last step tin the scam. Now Debbie has paid a $400 deposit and $345 for shipping, Ed is trying one last time to get a little more money with a life insurance deposit. After the pomsky “ships” we’ll never hear from the scammer again. His work is complete, he made his money.
  34. 34. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Courier Service Emails Courier Confirmation Part 1 Courier Confirmation Part 2 Courier Confirmation Part 3 Courier Confirmation Part 4 Courier Confirmation Part 5
  35. 35. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Courier Service Emails Courier Confirmation Part 1 Courier Confirmation Part 2 Courier Confirmation Part 3 Courier Confirmation Part 4 Courier Confirmation Part 5 Analysis These are the email confirmations from the “courier” service that’s shipping Debbie’s pomsky. Looks sketchy doesn’t it?
  36. 36. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Courier Service Emails Courier Confirmation Part 1 Courier Confirmation Part 2 Courier Confirmation Part 3 Courier Confirmation Part 4 Courier Confirmation Part 5 Red Flags 1. Legitimacy - the emails don’t look legitimate. Poor color scheme and lots of cropped sections. 2. Wire Transfer - the courier is asking for a direct transfer from your bank or western union. What professional courier service doesn’t have a better system for accepting payments? 3. Thomas Marrell - who is Thomas Marrell? Why would you western union a payment for courier service to an individual? 4. Formatting – generally poor formatting and spelling errors throughout the email. 5. Fast Couriers - this email is supposedly from the company "Fast Couriers". This is a real company, but the phone number on the email does not match the phone number on their website.
  37. 37. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Courier Service Emails Courier Confirmation Part 1 Courier Confirmation Part 2 Courier Confirmation Part 3 Courier Confirmation Part 4 Courier Confirmation Part 5 Tip Fast Couriers is a real company. Contact them and ask if this was their email and if your pomsky has scheduled to ship.
  38. 38. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam: The Final Scam Emails Learn from Debbie Debbie has asked us to publish her story so you can learn from her mistakes. Learn from Debbie and avoid the potential scams. You know how this story ends. Debbie drove to the airport and there was no pomsky puppy. She paid nearly $800 just to waste an afternoon driving to the airport. Ed Williams made off with $800 never to be heard from again. Below is an image of Marion the pomsky. The pomsky Debbie paid $800 for.
  39. 39. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Pomsky Scam Review Pomsky Scam Tips: Avoid The Scam #1 Tip Only work with breeders from a registered breed club (POA, IPA or PCA) Find a Breeder Click here to download our list of 40+ verified pomsky breeders around the globe Avoid Scams Here’s a couple tips to identify and avoid scams: 1. Only work with verified pomsky breeders of a pomsky breed club 2. Contact the breeder and ask lots of questions 3. Ask for LOTS of photos and videos on separate occasions 4. Visit the breeder in person 5. Beware of pomsky pricing For more tips, see our blog six tips to avoid pomsky scams
  40. 40. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Full Grown Adult Pomsky Free Pomsky Downloads Here’s TWO free resources to help you find the perfect pomsky. Click To Download Click To Download
  41. 41. Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Pomsky Owners Association Full Grown Adult Pomsky For more pomsky resources, see our blogs! Blog Posts Video Breakdown – Pomsky Scam Website Inside a real pomsky scam – Ed Williams Pomskies 6 tips to avoid pomsky scams 7 Tips to find a reputable pomsky breeder Pomsky health issues and concerns Size of a full grown adult pomsky (Pomeranian husky)
  42. 42. For more information about pomskies Email: Pomskyownersassociation@gmail.com Good luck with your pomsky!

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