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Joining The Union
Twitter Chat
Wednesday, June 3rd, 2015
12pmPT/2pmCT/3pmET
#WoVoChat
@WorldVoicesOrg
www.worldvo.org
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Featuring
Connie Terwilliger & Johnny George
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Q1: When in a person’s VO career
should they consider the value of
joining the union? #WoVoChat
A1: If voice work is the sole source of income, and you
need insurance and pension benefits. #WoVoChat
@JohnnyG53
A1: If y...
A1: If it makes financial sense for you to give up your
non-union clients. #WoVoChat
@aganguzza
A1: Maybe when the number ...
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Q2: What are some compelling
reasons FOR joining the union?
#WoVoChat
A2: Do not have to negotiate each job. Rates are set.
#WoVoChat
@ConnieVOTalent
A2: You are guaranteed payment on your job...
A2: You are no longer “on your own”. The benefit of
collective bargaining means you have clout over
buyers/producers. #WoV...
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Q3: What are some compelling
reasons for NOT joining the union?
#WoVoChat
A3: Not enough union-based work available to you in your
market or with your agents. #WoVoChat
@JohnnyG53
A3: The initiati...
A3: For fear of losing all your non-union clients.
#WoVoChat
@MoeRockVP
A3: Access to fewer gigs. I believe there to be mo...
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Q4: What is Fi-Core, or Financial Core
And why does SAG-AFTRA dislike it so
much? #WoVoChat
A4: FiCore is NLRB ruling originally designed for people
to opt out of being in the union due to objections to
political s...
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Q5: How long can I do union work
before I have to join the
union?#WoVoChat
A5: 30 days. Yes, it’s called being Taft-Hartley’d
(grandfathered) in. #WoVoChat
@JohnnyG53
A5: After 30 days, it is not a...
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Q6: Can anyone convert non-union
work to union by using a paymaster?
#WoVoChat
A6: Any non-residual job that pays enough can be
converted to union using a paymaster. #WoVoChat
@ConnieVOTalent
A6: Talk ...
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Q7: What does it cost to be a FiCore
member? #WoVoChat
A7: A % of whatever you made + a base payment of about
$201.96/yr. #WoVoChat
@JohnnyG53
A7: You are then allowed to do uni...
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Q8: Do agents like FiCore? #WoVoChat
A8: Agents being cut out of work as more producers go
direct to talent. They want to have more opportunities for
jobs. #Wo...
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Q9: I live in a Right-To-Work state.
Does that preclude joining the union?
#WoVoChat
A9: Legally yes, however, the union may push jobs away
from you if you don’t join. #WoVoChat
@JohnnyG53
A9: The Right-To-W...
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Q10: Are we missing any union basic
rulse? #WoVoChat
A10: If you are full union, you follow Rule 1 – and do not
work any non-union jobs. #WoVoChat
@ConnieVOTalent
A10: Annual ...
#WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
Join Us for the next #WoVoChat on
Wednesday, June 24th
12pmPT/2pmCT/3pmET!
Topic: Mobile VO Set ...
Check out the entire 6-3-15 #WoVoChat at our
Storify:
bit.ly/WoVoChat_12
Join us every other Wednesday of the month in 201...
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Joining The Union As A Voiceover Talent #WoVoChat 6-3-15

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Professional voiceover actors Connie Terwiliger and Johnny George dive into the pros and cons of joining SAG-AFTRA as a voiceover talent.

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Joining The Union As A Voiceover Talent #WoVoChat 6-3-15

  1. 1. Joining The Union Twitter Chat Wednesday, June 3rd, 2015 12pmPT/2pmCT/3pmET #WoVoChat @WorldVoicesOrg www.worldvo.org
  2. 2. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Featuring Connie Terwilliger & Johnny George
  3. 3. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Q1: When in a person’s VO career should they consider the value of joining the union? #WoVoChat
  4. 4. A1: If voice work is the sole source of income, and you need insurance and pension benefits. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 A1: If you are being requested to voice UNION status spots. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 A1: Your desire to turn your non-union jobs into union jobs by contacting your agent…(cont.) #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org A1: …(cont) and asking them to serve on your behalf. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53
  5. 5. A1: If it makes financial sense for you to give up your non-union clients. #WoVoChat @aganguzza A1: Maybe when the number of union gigs out number non- union and cover all life expenses. #WoVoChat @HJCDunnVOX A1: When you can easily afford the dues. #WoVoChat @MoeRockVP #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
  6. 6. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Q2: What are some compelling reasons FOR joining the union? #WoVoChat
  7. 7. A2: Do not have to negotiate each job. Rates are set. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent A2: You are guaranteed payment on your job. Clients have signed a union contract. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent A2: You get retirement benefits once vested, based on all earnings under contract. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org A2: Health plan with minimum $ earned within 4 quarters. About $10,000 for an individual right now under AFTRA; $15,000 SAG. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent
  8. 8. A2: You are no longer “on your own”. The benefit of collective bargaining means you have clout over buyers/producers. #WoVoChat @joecip A2: Better paying gigs. Health and retirement benefits. #WoVoChat @HJCDunnVOX A2: Not only are you guaranteed payment, you’re paid in 15-30 days rather than net 60-120 days. #WoVoChat @PaulBoucher #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
  9. 9. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Q3: What are some compelling reasons for NOT joining the union? #WoVoChat
  10. 10. A3: Not enough union-based work available to you in your market or with your agents. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 A3: The initiation fee has become unaffordable. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 A3: You may not qualify for an Initiation Fee Loan. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org A3: You are scrutinized very carefully and cannot accept non-union work without voiding your status. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53
  11. 11. A3: For fear of losing all your non-union clients. #WoVoChat @MoeRockVP A3: Access to fewer gigs. I believe there to be more non- union than union. Purely anecdotal. #WoVoChat @HJCDunnVOX A3: Your primary area of work (eLearning, radio imaging) doesn’t exist in the same reality as the terms in the agreements. #WoVoChat @PaulBoucher #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org
  12. 12. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Q4: What is Fi-Core, or Financial Core And why does SAG-AFTRA dislike it so much? #WoVoChat
  13. 13. A4: FiCore is NLRB ruling originally designed for people to opt out of being in the union due to objections to political spending. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent A4: You become a non-member with the right to work under union contracts, but you are not fined for working non-unions. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent A4: You can’t vote, you don’t get the magazine, you don’t get the screeners, can’t log onto the website to pay your fee online. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org A4: Fees are nearly the same, but more FiCore means more jobs going non-union, which reduces union leverage for keeping rates up. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent
  14. 14. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Q5: How long can I do union work before I have to join the union?#WoVoChat
  15. 15. A5: 30 days. Yes, it’s called being Taft-Hartley’d (grandfathered) in. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 A5: After 30 days, it is not acceptable to continue to do union work without joining. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 A5: And in order to join, you must pay an initiation fee. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org A5: Initiation fee is now over $3,100. It was $750 when I joined in 2000. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53
  16. 16. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Q6: Can anyone convert non-union work to union by using a paymaster? #WoVoChat
  17. 17. A6: Any non-residual job that pays enough can be converted to union using a paymaster. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent A6: Talk to people at Falcon Paymasters to get an idea of what is involved and the minimum fees you need to charge. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent A6: Remember, union work is W2 work unless you are a LLC or other corps. Sole props will see W2’s, not 1099’s. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org A6: Commercials and TV programs cannot be converted because of the need for someone to be responsible for the reuse fees. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent
  18. 18. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Q7: What does it cost to be a FiCore member? #WoVoChat
  19. 19. A7: A % of whatever you made + a base payment of about $201.96/yr. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 A7: You are then allowed to do union and non-union work. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 A7: SAG-AFTRA do not encourage FiCore status. It pulls operating monies out of their pockets. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org A7: You also have not voting rights, but can qualify for P&I if you pay 1.57% into it via a PayMaster. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53
  20. 20. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Q8: Do agents like FiCore? #WoVoChat
  21. 21. A8: Agents being cut out of work as more producers go direct to talent. They want to have more opportunities for jobs. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent A8: I have been told that agents are dropping their union franchises. Not sure about the majors, but yes in the smaller markets. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent A8: In speaking with my personal agents, they like being able to send talent out to more auditions/jobs – union or non-union. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org A8: But the industry is still in flux, with some non-union rates dropping lower. Agents have to charge more fees to make it up. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent
  22. 22. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Q9: I live in a Right-To-Work state. Does that preclude joining the union? #WoVoChat
  23. 23. A9: Legally yes, however, the union may push jobs away from you if you don’t join. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 A9: The Right-To-Work angle is not a popular one with union actors. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 A9: Check to see if your state is a Right-To-Work state first. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53 #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org A9: It is a personal decision to join or not. But fees may still be required to do union work. #WoVoChat @JohnnyG53
  24. 24. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Q10: Are we missing any union basic rulse? #WoVoChat
  25. 25. A10: If you are full union, you follow Rule 1 – and do not work any non-union jobs. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent A10: Annual base dues around $200, plus 1.575% of all other $ under SAG or AFTRA contracts up to $500,000. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent A10: Pension and Health plans still separate. Be careful to watch what contract you sign so that you don’t miss the minimum. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org A10: Initiation fee is currently around $3100 (initiation fees may be lower in some states). Can pay monthly installments. #WoVoChat @ConnieVOTalent
  26. 26. #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org Join Us for the next #WoVoChat on Wednesday, June 24th 12pmPT/2pmCT/3pmET! Topic: Mobile VO Set Ups
  27. 27. Check out the entire 6-3-15 #WoVoChat at our Storify: bit.ly/WoVoChat_12 Join us every other Wednesday of the month in 2015 for #WoVoChat at 12pmPT/2pmCT/3pmET! #WoVoChat www.worldvo.org January 14th & 28th July 8th & 22nd February 11th & 25th August 5th & 19th March 11th & 25th September 2nd & 16th & 30th April 8th & 22nd October 14th & 28th May 6th & 20th November 11th & 25th June 3th & 24th December 9th & 23rd

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