A herd of freely associating, autonomous cats: how a Facebook group helped turn a bunch of cMOOC participants into a learning community
1. A herd of freely associating,
autonomous cats: how a Facebook
group helped turn a bunch of
cMOOC participants into a learning
community
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3. • P2PU (a community course platform): Rhizomatic Learning: The Community is
the Curriculum https://courses.p2pu.org/en/courses/882/rhizomatic-learning-
the-community-is-the-curriculum/ (the “official” course page)
• Twitter: #rhizo14
• Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Rhizo14/
• A G+ group:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/102331797178606749149
• Personal blogs: https://gbl55.wordpress.com/mooc-comment-scraper-output-
rhizo14/
• … and more (Diijo, Mendeley, Pinterest …)
"it's a bit hard to sort out #rhizo14 which was the educational version of the
neverending story from #rhizo15 which started before the course began :)" quote
from Aaron J-R
What was #rhizo14?
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ND) license
6. Groups & Networks
• Downes (2007) draws a distinction between groups and networks. He
describes them as follows:
• Groups
“a collection of entities or members according to their nature or their feature or their
properties or whatever, their essential nature, maybe, their accidental nature, maybe,
whatever, but according to their nature. What defines a group is the quality the members
possess in common and then the number of members in that group. Groups are about
nature, they're about quality, they're about mass. They're about number.”
• Networks
“an association of entities or members where this association is facilitated or created by a
set of connections between those entities.”
He suggests that groups are defined by their “unity” while networks are defined by their “diversity”
7. Communities & Collectives
Seely Brown & Thomas (2013) describe the “collective” as:
“a collection of people, skills, and talent that produces a result greater
than the sum of its parts. For our purposes, collectives are not solely
defined by shared intention, action, or purpose (though those elements
may exist and often do). Rather, they are defined by an active
engagement with the process of learning”
They contrast a collective with a community and suggest that while communities
can be passive, collectives derive their strength from participation. They further
noted that “In communities, people learn in order to belong. In a collective, people
belong in order to learn”, Seely Brown & Thomas (2013)
8. Communities & Networks
• Wenger, Trayner & De Laat (2011) see communities and networks as “two different types of social
structures”. They offer the follow definitions:
• Networks (Social)
“… a set of relationships, personal interactions, and connections among participants who have
personal reasons to connect. It is viewed as a set of nodes and links with affordances for learning,
such as information flows, helpful linkages, joint problem solving, and knowledge creation”
• Communities (of Practice)
“… the development of a shared identity around a topic or set of challenges. It represents a
collective intention however tacit and distributed – to steward a domain of knowledge and to
sustain learning about it”
They suggest that these characteristics can be dominant enough to classify a group as “pure
communities” or “pure networks” (p. 11)
9. Groups, Nets, Sets, Collectives
• Dron & Anderson (2014) offer “a typology of social forms” into which a collection of learners can
participate to make sense of learning using social media. They offer the following descriptions for each of
the 4 elements in this collection:
• Groups
“intentionally convened collections of people that have leaders, hierarchies of control, and formal or informal
processes that define how they operate. Groups typically have an existence that is independent of the people in them”
• Nets (Networks)
“Networks consist of and may be described by the connections between people. These are often mediated and
structured by social objects such as blogs, community centres or social networking systems like Facebook, LinkedIn or
Google+. Unlike groups, networks are not designed, have no devised processes, no independent existence, no explicit
hierarchies, no explicit leaders, no explicit membership - they simply exist as an emergent entity that is the result of
individual connections between people. ”
• Sets
“are simply collections of people and their creations that share a common attribute. From an individual's perspective,
sets demand no social commitment of the sort found in groups and no social connection of the sort found in networks.
It is possible to be a part of a set without knowing anyone else in it and, indeed, it is possible to participate in a set
without being aware of doing so”
• Collectives
“a class of entities that emerge from collective intelligence. Collective intelligence can occur when multiple individual
entities act together in ways that mean they are most usefully understood as a single super-organism”…” A collective is
not a social form in itself but is a consequence of the aggregated behaviours of people in sets, nets or groups”
10. Others?
• Hives?
• Borg?
• Swarms?
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12. The place where the action was, was Facebook.
“It was a platform I was already using
consistently for my life, with my family,
as a consultant posting updates to
projects, and for my agency, and the
addition of an adult learning
component really enlivened FB for
me… it animated it in a new way.”
“It's just convenience to use FB
because, first thing in the morning or
last thing at night I’m using it on my
mobile phone, I'm lying in bed, and it's
just convenient. I don't have to go
searching.”
“The FB space is wide and friendly - it
opens its arms to all - from the
experienced MOOCer or Rhizoer - to the
less confident or the transient or the
one who lurked and only spoke once.”
13. …the conversational space - the dialogic space - and the
visual space…
“What I also like about the FB - is that you can like - you
can comment - without having to sign in, log on -
remember ALL your passwords. Damn it - it’s words and
visuals and friends at play!”
“Of the various platforms,
the FB group was most like
a synchronous
conversation, which was
important to me as many of
us wrestled with new
ideas. Post a question or an
idea and someone from
some other time zone
would answer, almost
always.”
“most people posted their blog links on FB as well as
Twitter - so the FB allowed access to many different
strands of conversation”
“This is a multimodal space
- where the visuals are
attractive and draw you into
a feeling a collegiality and
'being with' with the
posters….The FB feels
populated with diverse
voices - it feels both
synchronous and
asynchronous - it is less
reverential - less deferential
- it is rhizomatic..”
14. The FB interactions led to relationships out of which deeper discussions
arose.
“In my whole Master’s degree I probably connected with
about five people over four years who I could call or email
now, a couple of years later, with a question about research
or academic roles or whatever - out of the six (or twelve or
more) weeks FB #rhizo14 group I developed a good dozen
relationships with people I would be able to contact with
similar questions.”
“… the environment we’d created with “serious”
conversations interspersed with images, collages, songs,
references to movies etc., moments of doubt and
uncertainty, and great trails of humourous bantering - was
in itself a model of rhizomatic learning - maps, tracings,
ruptures, subversions, lines of flight, and the possibility that
any node can connect with any other node.”
15. the tweets and the blogs felt like monoliths standing alone in a field -
that you crept up to and touched – ALONE
“Though I like Google Plus more, and
though there was a Google community
next to the FB-community during
Rhizo14, the place where the action was,
was Facebook.”
“Twitter was an uncomfortable space,
one where I felt that no matter how
much I tried to participate, I was still
shouting into the ether, hoping someone
would hear. In contrast, the Facebook
group felt less ephermeral.”
“ I liked how it was possible to develop and enjoy the “social
presence” of others in a way - to see their photos, get a glimpse
of their life, or of what they wanted to share - and then from
there check out their more expansive blog postings and twitter
conversations.”
“Facebook because that's all my brain could handle.”
18. Exclusion: Open but Not
“The “Log into Facebook” screen
that greeted me when I followed
a link was like a locked door, and I
did not have the key”
-- Kevin (dogtrax)
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19. Personal/Professional lines blurred
• How many of you feel
uncomfortable using Facebook
for professional purposes?
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20. Facebook’s Questionable Ethics
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21. Information Overload
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22. Distributed Conversation
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23. Not all found the convo rich
"My sense is that it made my behaviour less rhizomatic, more passive. I
had to consciously get out there, to explore away from that space.
Maybe the herd tramples the rhizome."
- Nick Kearney (did not do facebook in rhizo14 but did in rhizo15)
25. References
• Downes, S. (2007). Groups versus Networks: The Class struggle continues. Accessed September 3, 2015. Available at
http://www.downes.ca/post/42521
• Dron, J., & Anderson, T. (2014). Agoraphobia and the modern learner. Journal of Interactive Media in Education, Open for
Learning Special Issue, np. Retrieved from http://jime.open.ac.uk/jime/article/view/2014-03
• Seely Brown, J., & Thomas, D. (2013). Learning in the Collective. Hybrid Pedagogy. Available at
http://www.hybridpedagogy.com/journal/learning-in-the-collective/
• Wenger, E., Trayner, B., & De Laat, M. (2011). Promoting and assessing value creation in communities and networks: a
conceptual framework. Accessed September 3, 2015. Available at http://wenger-trayner.com/wp-
content/uploads/2011/12/11-04-Wenger_Trayner_DeLaat_Value_creation.pdf
Ask the audience
Hands up if …
You use Facebook
Use Facebook professionally
Understand the difference between a group, a page, and a profile
Have problems with Facebook privacy
Some random thoughts…
I think we used the term “community” in a more generic sense
Can we explore the various “collections” outlined in following slides to explore what sort of “community” we are/were?
And what is it that we really want to share about these “collections” described and our own experience?
Unity v diversity
Learn to belong v belong to learn
Shared identity – diverse identity
Hierarchies, emergent entities, collections with no commitment, collective intelligence
None of the previous really characterise our rhizo-research thing. Networks are best (heterogenerity), but seem too impersonal. Other suggestions.
Word cloud from the responses to our question around why Facebook posted in the rhizo14 group
Four main reasons why Facebook was the space where the rhizo14 community really developed…
People are already on Facebook
Know how to use it – no need to learn something new
It’s already part of the daily routine – helps with the time demands
It’s comfortable – most are familiar not only with how it works but also the social norms, so can help build confidence in people who may be new to this type of learning/topic.
Features, affordances of Facebook made it a spot conducive to the growth of a rhizomatic community
Most people mentioned the ability/ease of carrying on conversations as key:
The threaded nature makes it easy to follow, easy to come back to
The ability to have public and private conversations – private to clarify a point, resolve conflicts, deepen connections
Multimodal:
Can include any type of media
Most people also shared links to work in other spaces (blogs, videos, etc)
Simple things like FB sending notifications to email or phone – acted as a reminder/prod to interact.
The idea of a bounded group, where you have to join, gives a sense of boundedness, intimacy. There’s a combination of affinity towards both the overall goals of the group and to other participants that leads to a sense of community
Many people see FB as personal but found Rhizo pushed them to cross the professional boundary – note that Maha will also address this. Was a struggle for some people, those that did make the transition speak of it as a positive thing.
The ability to participate in the group without ‘friending’ people helped maintain this divide if desired. The opposite, of people choosing to friend other rhizoers, often led to seeing a more well rounded version of people. This often led to deeper relationships than would usually be found in this type of group, connecting over things that weren’t just rhizo related.
The informality of FB as a space used most often to communicate with family/friends perhaps lent an air of informality to what otherwise would be considered a professional learning group/experience – akin to the watercooler conversations one has in an office.
Other spaces used included Twitter, Google +, Blogs (Sarah has likely covered this earlier, Maha will also speak to this point)
Twitter – people spoke of the difficulty of fitting thoughts into 140 characters, esp when also have hashtag, usernames, etc. Also, how quickly conversations moved and how hard it was to try and find/come back to something if you didn’t see it immediately.
Blogs – good for longer form thoughts, some people mentioned struggling to keep track of what they read where and then couldn’t find it again, also the time it took to read a long blog post and think of/write a response – again ties to the ‘formality’ of the media
G+ - was used some, but no ‘critical mass’ – what was posted on Google was also usually on FB.
Idea of place vs space – space suggests vastness, distance, and a need for effortful navigation, place suggests something more tangible, bounded, and identifiable. In FB you have an idea of your audience, which is coalesced around a single topic – unlike Twitter where rhizo tweets are mixed in with tons of other stuff.
FB as the ‘tip of the iceberg’ in that it’s a jumping off point for conversations/interactions through private messages or in other spaces.
Last quote from someone who had head injury during rhizo15 and had to stop participating in most spaces but still felt connected thru FB
A simple friend request – changed the relationship – jumped the boundary.
Notice how this wasn’t just a friend request – it came with a note helping to contextualize it – making it safe.
After discussing – we discovered that Maha had learned this from Sarah!
The rhizo community became a community of caring for me … after Rhizo was ‘finished’
After my cancer diagnosis, members of rhizo send me care packages … again, this was a concrete demonstration of how rhizo was more than just a collection of colleagues getting together to play with academic ideas … we became friends … and it happened in large part because of the melding of professional and personal