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As the LSBC hears eloquent submissions from its Benchers over whether to accept Trinity Wester University as a law school, I am reminded of this old debate from the 1950s when the LSBC refused the application of a known communist, one W.J. Gordon Martin. Justice Bird of the BC Court of Appeal found: "He then declared that he would not follow the Marxian doctrines to the extent of using force if necessary to overthrow constituted authority, that he always felt free to disagree with the application of such doctrines and in lieu to advocate social change by means of education and social organization." This was not good enough.