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    1. 1. EXTREME INTERVIEWING: FINDING THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR YOUR AGILE TEAMS Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations
    2. 2. Why are we here at o-dark-thirty? <ul><li>Learn a little about Menlo </li></ul><ul><li>Learn how and why Extreme Interviewing was created </li></ul><ul><li>Simulate an Extreme Interviewing event </li></ul><ul><li>Have fun! (Yes, even at 8:30 am on the last day of the conference!) </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    3. 3. A Little About Me <ul><li>My life before Agile (there was life before agile?) </li></ul><ul><li>What I do at Menlo </li></ul><ul><li>Why I love what I do </li></ul><ul><li>Everything you need to know about how I didn’t invent Extreme Interviewing </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    4. 4. A Little About Menlo <ul><li>Founded in 2001 by four partners </li></ul><ul><li>We build no products for ourselves; rather we build products for other people </li></ul>Our self-stated mission is to “…end human suffering in the world as it relates to technology.” (And to have a lot of fun while we’re doing it!) Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    5. 5. Setting Some Context Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    6. 6. We Pair All the Time, Every Day Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    7. 7. We believe… <ul><li>In building a learning organization </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Languages and technology can be taught </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Good kindergarten skills cannot </li></ul></ul><ul><li>We are willing to invest in our people </li></ul><ul><ul><li>A person’s aptitudes are more important that his or her current skills </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>We aren’t interested as much in what you already know but what can you learn? </li></ul></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    8. 8. Let’s jump into the Wayback Machine <ul><li>It’s 1999 </li></ul><ul><li>Interface Systems is the #1 publicly traded company in Michigan </li></ul><ul><li>Richard Sheridan is VP of Product Development </li></ul><ul><li>The company has newly adopted XP as a way to improve software development capabilities </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    9. 9. The mandate from management <ul><li>Double the team </li></ul><ul><li>(from 14 to 28) </li></ul><ul><li>Not simply increase body count, but increase productive output. </li></ul><ul><li>New team members must embrace XP </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    10. 10. “ Old Style” interviewing <ul><li>Each interviewer sits with a candidate for 1 hour </li></ul><ul><li>Each candidate is interviewed by 3 people </li></ul><ul><li>The people who interviewed each person meet for 30 minutes </li></ul><ul><li>We interview 2-4-8-? candidates for each open position </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    11. 11. Do the math… <ul><li>1 hour interview </li></ul><ul><li>X 3 interviewers </li></ul><ul><li>X 8 candidates per position </li></ul><ul><li>X 14 positions </li></ul><ul><li>---------------------- </li></ul><ul><li>= 336 man hours </li></ul>This would keep 3 interviewers busy full-time for almost 3 weeks! Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    12. 12. And would it… <ul><li>Predict how they’d react to the open and collaborative environment (e.g. “Where’s my cube? How come it’s so noisy?”) </li></ul><ul><li>Effectively predict how they’d work in a paired environment? </li></ul><ul><li>Tell us about their teamwork capabilities? </li></ul><ul><li>Help the team hire diverse talent (e.g. with different skills than their own, or different cognitive styles)? </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    13. 13. What if? <ul><li>You could interview 50 candidates in 1 morning? </li></ul><ul><li>You could effectively learn how they might interact with others in your work environment? (e.g. pairing behaviors)? </li></ul><ul><li>Candidates could learn if they really like </li></ul><ul><li>working this way before they took the job? </li></ul><ul><li>No one reads the resumes first? </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    14. 14. If you’re good at teamwork… <ul><li>… and you’re good at pairing </li></ul><ul><li>You should be able to put team goals above your own goals </li></ul><ul><li>You should be able to collaborate under pressure </li></ul><ul><li>You will share the tools you’re using </li></ul><ul><li>You should be able to work with people of different abilities </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    15. 15. So why not interview as a pair? <ul><li>It allows you to demonstrate your pairing skills </li></ul><ul><li>It allows you to work with people of differing abilities </li></ul><ul><li>It allows you to show how you work under pressure </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    16. 16. Facilitators and Participants Facilitator Participants Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    17. 17. Partners & Facilitators change <ul><li>Round One </li></ul><ul><li>Round Two </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    18. 18. <ul><li>You are interviewing to join the Menlo Innovations’ development team. Your first activity is ESTIMATION. </li></ul><ul><li>You have 10 minutes to complete the activity. </li></ul>Activity #1 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    19. 19. <ul><li>You’ve just gotten a new pair partner. Your next activity is PLANNING. </li></ul><ul><li>You have 10 minutes to complete the activity. </li></ul>Activity #2 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    20. 20. <ul><li>You’ve just gotten a new pair partner. Your next activity is UNIT TESTING. </li></ul><ul><li>You have 10 minutes to complete the activity. </li></ul>Activity #3 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    21. 21. Q & A #1 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    22. 22. Evaluation Process <ul><li>The original evaluation form was very simple. </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    23. 23. Evaluation Process <ul><li>It became more complex and more complete. </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    24. 24. Evaluation Process <ul><li>Ultimately what we want is a simple summary. </li></ul><ul><li>The first decision we make is “Do we want to ask this person back for a second interview?” </li></ul>Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    25. 25. <ul><li>You’re going to observe a pair working together. Watch the woman in the blue shirt. </li></ul><ul><li>What do you see? </li></ul>Exercise #4 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    26. 26. Interview Pair #1 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    27. 27. Interview Pair #2 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    28. 28. Evaluation Process Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    29. 29. Q & A #2 Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC
    30. 30. Contact Information Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations LLC [email_address] +1-734-665-1847 [USA]
    31. 31. Contact Information Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations LLC [email_address] +1-734-665-1847 [USA]
    32. 32. Contact Information Copyright © 2008 Menlo Innovations LLC Lisamarie Babik, Menlo Innovations LLC [email_address] +1-734-665-1847 [USA]

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