Reasons you don’t pin at horse shows - @hunterjudge

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Improve your horse show placings by understanding reason's you don't win at horse shows. go to http://www.thistleridgestables.com for additional information

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  • Later on I will give some pointers on what the judge wants to see
  • These are definitions – different for hunter vs jumper
  • Hunter rounds start as soon as you enter and finish as youleave
  • These are pretty self explainitory – for me if Im judging a refusal is an immediate 30-40 % score
  • Knock downs, when Im judging are a score of around 50
  • These are all things that most people see. The good form will be rewarded with a good score. A dangerous jump is just as bad as a knockdown.
  • While judging a disaster left the ring. It was a medal equitation class. And the course had to be reset because the previous rider crashed into some fences. They rebuilt the jumps and the new competitor entered the ring. She looked wonderful, turn out, clean, horse ridden properly. I just watched. And then she asked, ‘whats wrong?’ I was just enjoying how she looked.
  • Reasons you don’t pin at horse shows - @hunterjudge

    1. 1. Reasons you Don’t Win at Horse Shows Will be starting Shortly
    2. 2. Topics <ul><li>Reasons you don’t pin </li></ul><ul><li>What can we do to improve placings </li></ul><ul><li>How to get the judge to notice you </li></ul><ul><li>Some big mistakes people make </li></ul><ul><li>What to do about mistakes </li></ul>
    3. 3. Reason Number1 FALL of horse and/or rider
    4. 4. What is a Fall ? <ul><li>1. Competitors are considered to have fallen when, either voluntarily or involuntarily, they are separated from their horse, which has not fallen in such a way that they touch the ground or find it necessary, in order to get back into the saddle, to use some form of support or outside assistance. </li></ul><ul><li>2. A horse is considered to have fallen when at the same time both its shoulder and quarters have touched either the ground or the obstacle and the ground. </li></ul><ul><li>3. See also discipline/breed sport rules. </li></ul>
    5. 5. Falls- Cont. <ul><li>Falls eliminate – can not remount in the ring </li></ul><ul><li>GR842 Falls. </li></ul><ul><li>The fall of horse and/or rider does not disqualify the competitor unless due to bad mannersof the horse. Exception: Andalusian (see AL101.13), Driving, Eventing, Equitation, Hunter,Jumper, Reining, Vaulting and Western classes, in which specific rules prevail. </li></ul><ul><li>If you remount in the ring you are disqualified from showing in that ring for the rest of the day. </li></ul>
    6. 6. More on Falls <ul><li>3. Disobediences, falls etc., occurring between the signal to start and themoment the competitor crosses the starting line in the correct direction, are not penalized. </li></ul><ul><li>This happened to me recently </li></ul>
    7. 7. Reason #2 - Refusals <ul><li>Stopping in front of the fence </li></ul><ul><li>Circling, “crossing your path” </li></ul><ul><li>Going past the vertical plane of the jump </li></ul>
    8. 9. Rule #3 Knock Downs
    9. 10. Reason # 4 Bad Form <ul><li>Dropped leg </li></ul><ul><li>Swimming </li></ul><ul><li>Hanging a leg </li></ul><ul><li>Leaving off one leg </li></ul><ul><li>Other disasters </li></ul>
    10. 11. Reason # 6 - #11- Other Major Faults <ul><li>Trotting or breaking anywhere on course </li></ul><ul><li>Leaving out strides makes for a long reaching jump- going to fast, flat, racing </li></ul><ul><li>Adding in strides – going too slowly, chipping in not a very scopey horse </li></ul><ul><li>Chipping, popping, adding getting too close </li></ul><ul><li>Pausing or stopping on takeoff </li></ul><ul><li>Dwelling in the air, jumping in two parts </li></ul><ul><li>Wrong lead around corner, no lead changes </li></ul><ul><li>Disunited lead </li></ul>
    11. 12. Other Faults <ul><li>Spooking </li></ul><ul><li>Not tight below the knee –parallel forearm but loose below </li></ul><ul><li>Twisting or laying on side </li></ul><ul><li>Stalls on landing/lands in a heap </li></ul><ul><li>Running anywhere on course </li></ul><ul><li>Jumps crocked </li></ul><ul><li>Skips a change </li></ul><ul><li>Rubs – front or back </li></ul><ul><li>Flat- no bascule </li></ul><ul><li>Out too far or too close/deep </li></ul>
    12. 13. Most have been to do with the jump itself now the rest of the picture comes into play
    13. 15. Minor faults <ul><li>Most have been to do with the non jumping aspect of the course. </li></ul>
    14. 16. <ul><li>Movement – </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Rhythm </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Stride, gait – good, poor, bad or pony gaited </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Tense or relaxed - </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Way of going – bend, ears, tail swishing </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Tack and turnout </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Tight martingale </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Mouth open </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Inverted </li></ul></ul>
    15. 17. Bonus Features <ul><li>Recent horse show* </li></ul><ul><li>The fewer marks the better </li></ul><ul><li>Turn out can add points * </li></ul><ul><li>Even pace good rhythm </li></ul><ul><li>Good form over fences. </li></ul>
    16. 18. Things the Judge Wants to See Must ‘find’ all the jumps
    17. 20. Looking for <ul><li>Horse that has: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Good form - bascule </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Good Rhythm </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Good movement </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Well turned out </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Nice to look at </li></ul></ul>
    18. 21. Get Noticed – in a good way <ul><li>Have excellent turn out – </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Mane – not overnight braids </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Tail - braided </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Clean horse – believe me as a judge I can appreciate a ‘white’ horse. NO MANURE STAINS </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Oiled hooves – it helps </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Avoid complete grooming session at in-gate </li></ul></ul>
    19. 22. Get Noticed – in a good way <ul><li>Tack </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Clean – doesn’t have to be new just clean </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Appropriate for horse – e.g. D-rings, martingales </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Appropriate for class specifications </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Overly tight martingales </li></ul></ul>
    20. 23. Get Noticed – in a good way <ul><li>Sponge the horse before the jog or while waiting for the next class– sweat stains and saddle marks are not appropriate. Put some liniment in water to remove sweat stains. </li></ul><ul><li>Get off horses back. </li></ul><ul><li>Extra points for not holding up the class! </li></ul>
    21. 24. Get Noticed – in a good way <ul><li>Rider Turn Out </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Please wear choker or tie not open neck shirt </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Even if jackets are excused wear it just before entering the ring. It will give you the ‘edge’. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Wipe of dust from boots </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>GLOVES! </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Put spurs on properly </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Hair net </li></ul></ul>
    22. 25. <ul><li>For more information or to get slides: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Send email to [email_address] </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Put webinar slides or request webinar slide in the subject line </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>THANKS </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>http://thistleridgestables.com </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>http://twitter.com/hunterjudge </li></ul></ul>

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