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Discussion by Erwin Diewert of: 
“Penn World Tables 8.0: A User Guide” 
Robert C. Feenstra (University of California and NBER) 
Robert Inklaar (University of Groningen) 
Marcel Timmer (University of Groningen) 
33rd IARIW General Conference, 
August 24-30, 2014, 
Rotterdam, The Netherlands 
1
Overview 
 The main purpose of the paper is to provide readers of a 
non-technical overview of the latest version of the Penn 
World Tables: PWT: Version 8. 
 What are the new concepts? 
 How was the data set constructed (roughly)? 
 Which version of the Tables should be used in various 
specific research contexts? 
 What are the limitations of the measures? 
 This is a very exciting paper! I think that the authors do an 
excellent job of answering the above questions! 
 75000 visitors to the website since its launch in July 2013! 
 75 citations to the main paper since the launch! Definitely a 
best selling paper! 
2
Three Major Changes to the PWT 
• For their output oriented measures of real GDP RGDPo that 
are comparable across countries, they introduce PPPs for 
exports and imports. This measure of real GDP is useful for 
comparing productivity levels across countries. 
• PWT:8 now interpolates real GDP levels between 
benchmark PPP data instead of using the most recent PPP 
data to determine relative GDP levels across countries and 
then using national growth rates of real GDP to extrapolate 
backwards into the indefinite past. 
• PWT:8 also provides some measures of country capital 
stocks (in comparable units across countries) and labour 
input by country so that the Penn World Tables can provide 
measures of country productivity levels across countries. 
• All of these innovations are very useful. 
3
The China-US Comparison 2005 
China United	States China/US 
A:	GDP	per	capita 
in	national	currency 14565 42330 
in	US	dollars,	converted	with	exchange	rate 1777 42330 4% 
in	US	dollars,	GDPe 5342 43209 12% 
in	US	dollars,	GDPo 5270 42330 12% 
B:	productivity 
GDPo	per	worker	(US$) 8967 87691 10% 
Tangible	capital	stock	per	worker	(US$) 29245 262546 11% 
Human	capital	per	worker	(index) 2.33 3.64 64% 
Total	factor	productivity	(index) 0.29 1.00 29% 
4
Discussion of Expenditure Side Real GDP, RGDPe (1) 
 RGDPe is basically a variant of the World Bank’s ICP 
estimates of Real GDP by country, that compares real 
C+I+G across countries in comparable units and adds the 
countries trade balance deflated by its exchange rate with a 
numeraire country to form expenditure side real GDP. 
 The resulting real GDP estimates are divided by the 
country’s population and the resulting real per capita GDP 
levels are (approximately) comparable across countries and 
give some indication of relative living standards across 
countries. 
 Historically, the Penn World Tables have used the latest 
available World Bank ICP GDP relative levels (the last two 
being 2005 and 2011) and then national real GDP growth 
rates are used to extrapolate the latest (comparable across 
space) ICP real GDP levels back through time. 
5
Discussion of Expenditure Side Real GDP, RGDPe (2) 
 PWT:8 makes use of all available World Bank PPP exercises 
(1970, 1975, 1980, 1985, 1996, 2005) as well as OECD annual 
benchmark estimates of member country relative real GDP 
levels and interpolates between successive benchmark 
estimates instead of just using one benchmark and 
extrapolating backwards forever using national real GDP 
growth rates. 
 I believe that this change in methodology is a huge 
improvement over the earlier Penn Tables. The problem was 
that each new benchmark radically changed relative GDP 
levels backwards for 40 years or so. The new methodology 
will change relative GDP levels but only between successive 
benchmark years. [Unless there are historical GDP revisions, 
in which case there will be further changes]. 
 Basic inputs into the construction of the tables: PPPs for 
benchmark years, nominal and real national GDP series. 6
Discussion of Expenditure Side Real GDP, RGDPe (3) 
 Feenstra, Inklaar and Timmer (FIT) made a few 
adjustments to PWT:7 and World Bank ICP methodology: 
 (1) Instead of using the PWT:7 method or the World Bank 
method for aggregating C+G+I (basically the GEKS method 
for making international comparisons with some bells and 
whistles to account for the problems of maintaining within 
region parities), PWT:8 used the GEKS method to aggregate 
C+G and then used the Geary-Khamis method to aggregate 
C+G with I. Typically this will not make much difference. 
 (2) FIT made consistent productivity adjustments for the 
Health, Education and General Government sectors (the 
World Bank made some adjustments for some regions but 
not for others—had to respect regional preferences). 
 (3) Following Deaton and Heston (2013), Chinese 
consumption prices for 2005 were adjusted down by 20%. 
 The following chart compares WB and FIT parities for 2005. 
7
Discussion of Expenditure Side Real GDP, RGDPe (4) 
8
The Index Number Formula and PPP Reliability (1) 
 FIT note that (following Deaton and Heston 2010) it is hard 
to compare wildly different countries. 
 Why? Because they can be consuming totally different goods 
and services. How can we compare the incomparable? 
 Thus price comparisons over time (within a country) are 
likely to be much more accurate than price comparisons 
over space (PPP comparisons). Thus the relative real GDP 
estimates generated by PPPs are not as reliable as the time 
series estimates. 
 Even with perfectly accurate PPPs at the basic heading level, 
there will be problems in comparing real GDP over space 
due to big differences in relative prices across countries; 
superlative indexes will no longer closely approximate each 
other. And non-superlative multilateral indexes (like GK) 
will be even more different than multilateral indexes base on 
bilateral superlative indexes (like GEKS). 
9
The Index Number Formula and PPP Reliability (2) 
 Thus FIT note that the differences between the GK and 
GEKS PPP for a single country can easily be as big as 50% 
and thus they note that “due care is needed when comparing 
living standards between rich and poor countries”. 
 A problem with the GEKS multilateral method is that it may 
be too democratic; i.e., every country plays a role as a 
numeraire country, where its price (or quantity) structure is 
compared in a bilateral fashion with the prices (or 
quantities) of every other country in the comparison. Once 
all of these “star” parities have been constructed, GEKS 
simply takes the equally weighted geometric mean of these 
star parities as the final parities. 
 I think that a better way of linking countries is by spatial 
linking or similarity linking; see the many papers by Robert 
Hill but in particular his chapter 9 in D.S. Prasada Rao 
(2009), Purchasing Power Parities of Currencies (and look at 
my Chapter 8 in the book as well!). 10
The Problem with an Additive Method (like GK) 
11 
A 
B 
C 
q2 
q1
The Index Number Formula and PPP Reliability (4) 
 FIT also note that it is hard to justify the assumption of 
homothetic (and identical) preferences across countries, 
which is the usual justification for the use of the Fisher index. 
• But Törnqvist-Theil bilateral price and quantity indexes can 
be justified for non-homothetic (but identical) preferences 
(this was already done in my 1976 Journal of Econometrics 
article on superlative indexes) and for non-homothetic and 
even non-identical preferences; see Caves, Christensen and 
Diewert (1982), Econometrica 50 (1982), pages 1409-1411 
and Diewert (2009), “Cost of Living Indexes and Exact Index 
Numbers”, Chapter 8 in Quantifying Consumer Preferences, 
edited by Daniel Slottje in the Contributions to Economic 
Analysis Series, United Kingdom: Emerald Group 
Publishing, pp. 207-246. 
• We turn now to a discussion of RGDPo 
12
Discussion of Output Side Real GDP, RGDP0 (1) 
• The second major change that FIT implemented was to 
introduce output oriented measures of Real GDP that could 
be compared across time and space, RGDPo . 
• Essentially, they constructed PPPs for exports and imports 
(using detailed unit value statistics for X and M) which is 
appropriate if we want to apply a production theory 
framework to model the relative outputs of each economy in 
the comparison project. 
• Thus this is all good as far as I am concerned! 
• These production theory real output measures can be 
matched up with the corresponding real input measures for 
at least a number of countries (EUKLEMS and World 
KLEMS provide suitable estimates for many countries) and 
then we can compare productivity levels of countries 
compared to a world frontier and study convergence etc. ,13
Discussion of Output Side Real GDP, RGDP0 (2) 
 On the previous slide, I have already mentioned the third 
major innovation that FIT have introduced into the Penn 
World Tables; namely information on capital stocks and 
labour input for selected countries. 
 But the capital stock estimates are incomplete. These 
estimates are of stocks and the list of stocks is incomplete. 
 In particular, there are no estimates for the stocks of land, 
inventories, subsoil natural resources and R&D at present. 
 Presumably as more countries develop their balance sheet 
estimates, these gaps will be filled in. 
 The labour estimates are also a bit crude; no adjustment for 
hours worked. But it is a start! 
 The following slide shows the output differences for 2005. 
14
Final Expenditure Side vs Output Side Real GDP 
15
Possible Directions for Change (1) 
(1) For RGDPe , it seems to me that we should move to net 
product from gross product. Nobody can consume 
depreciation but net additions to the capital stock are 
definitely contributions to welfare. If PWT were to move to 
the net framework, it would set a wonderful precedent! 
Moreover, net investment is a lot smaller than gross 
investment and so it would not matter so much what index 
number formula is used to aggregate C+G with I. 
(2) For both GDP concepts, I am assuming that the 
interpolation method is the same. The authors suggest a 
form of linear interpolation between benchmarks. I have 
suggested an alternative interpolation scheme to the authors 
which I think is “better”; see Diewert (2014), “Alternative 
Measures of OECD Output Growth and Inflation” UBC 
discussion paper 14-01. Maybe they could consider it. 
16
Possible Directions for Change (2) 
For RGDPo , I would like to suggest the following: 
• Indirect taxes should be removed from consumption prices 
in order to better justify the economic approach to the 
output quantity index and to productivity analysis. (This 
follows the productivity literature started by Jorgenson and 
Griliches, 1968, 1972). 
• The authors should consider using the approach outlined by 
Caves, Christensen and Diewert EJ (1982) and Diewert and 
Morrison EJ (1986), which justifies the use of Törnvist-Theil 
indexes in a production theory context. 
• Try to fill in some of the gaps in the capital stock estimates. 
It should be possible to extend the KLEMS data to include 
inventory stocks and for the few countries that have annual 
balance sheets, land estimates should be available. Land is a 
tremendously important missing input in the KLEMS 
framework. 
17
Possible Directions for Change (3) 
• As the World KLEMs database improves, the primary input 
data base for PWT can also improve. I think that the PWT 
should not put out poor quality data on primary inputs. If 
they do, people will use it and come up with all sorts of 
problematic empirical results. So restrict the primary input 
base to countries where you are more comfortable about the 
data quality. 
• The application of traditional production theory to the 
Health, Education and General Government sectors is 
problematic. Also, traditional production theory does not 
apply to the financial sector (and we do not have a consensus 
on how to measure outputs and inputs in this sector). 
Perhaps PWT should leave out these problematic sectors 
until measurement improves in these hard to measure 
sectors. (Advertising, R&D and Business Consulting also 
tough). 
Conclusion: a great paper and a great leap forward! 
18

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Erwin Diewert Discussion of PWT 8.0 User Guide

  • 1. Discussion by Erwin Diewert of: “Penn World Tables 8.0: A User Guide” Robert C. Feenstra (University of California and NBER) Robert Inklaar (University of Groningen) Marcel Timmer (University of Groningen) 33rd IARIW General Conference, August 24-30, 2014, Rotterdam, The Netherlands 1
  • 2. Overview  The main purpose of the paper is to provide readers of a non-technical overview of the latest version of the Penn World Tables: PWT: Version 8.  What are the new concepts?  How was the data set constructed (roughly)?  Which version of the Tables should be used in various specific research contexts?  What are the limitations of the measures?  This is a very exciting paper! I think that the authors do an excellent job of answering the above questions!  75000 visitors to the website since its launch in July 2013!  75 citations to the main paper since the launch! Definitely a best selling paper! 2
  • 3. Three Major Changes to the PWT • For their output oriented measures of real GDP RGDPo that are comparable across countries, they introduce PPPs for exports and imports. This measure of real GDP is useful for comparing productivity levels across countries. • PWT:8 now interpolates real GDP levels between benchmark PPP data instead of using the most recent PPP data to determine relative GDP levels across countries and then using national growth rates of real GDP to extrapolate backwards into the indefinite past. • PWT:8 also provides some measures of country capital stocks (in comparable units across countries) and labour input by country so that the Penn World Tables can provide measures of country productivity levels across countries. • All of these innovations are very useful. 3
  • 4. The China-US Comparison 2005 China United States China/US A: GDP per capita in national currency 14565 42330 in US dollars, converted with exchange rate 1777 42330 4% in US dollars, GDPe 5342 43209 12% in US dollars, GDPo 5270 42330 12% B: productivity GDPo per worker (US$) 8967 87691 10% Tangible capital stock per worker (US$) 29245 262546 11% Human capital per worker (index) 2.33 3.64 64% Total factor productivity (index) 0.29 1.00 29% 4
  • 5. Discussion of Expenditure Side Real GDP, RGDPe (1)  RGDPe is basically a variant of the World Bank’s ICP estimates of Real GDP by country, that compares real C+I+G across countries in comparable units and adds the countries trade balance deflated by its exchange rate with a numeraire country to form expenditure side real GDP.  The resulting real GDP estimates are divided by the country’s population and the resulting real per capita GDP levels are (approximately) comparable across countries and give some indication of relative living standards across countries.  Historically, the Penn World Tables have used the latest available World Bank ICP GDP relative levels (the last two being 2005 and 2011) and then national real GDP growth rates are used to extrapolate the latest (comparable across space) ICP real GDP levels back through time. 5
  • 6. Discussion of Expenditure Side Real GDP, RGDPe (2)  PWT:8 makes use of all available World Bank PPP exercises (1970, 1975, 1980, 1985, 1996, 2005) as well as OECD annual benchmark estimates of member country relative real GDP levels and interpolates between successive benchmark estimates instead of just using one benchmark and extrapolating backwards forever using national real GDP growth rates.  I believe that this change in methodology is a huge improvement over the earlier Penn Tables. The problem was that each new benchmark radically changed relative GDP levels backwards for 40 years or so. The new methodology will change relative GDP levels but only between successive benchmark years. [Unless there are historical GDP revisions, in which case there will be further changes].  Basic inputs into the construction of the tables: PPPs for benchmark years, nominal and real national GDP series. 6
  • 7. Discussion of Expenditure Side Real GDP, RGDPe (3)  Feenstra, Inklaar and Timmer (FIT) made a few adjustments to PWT:7 and World Bank ICP methodology:  (1) Instead of using the PWT:7 method or the World Bank method for aggregating C+G+I (basically the GEKS method for making international comparisons with some bells and whistles to account for the problems of maintaining within region parities), PWT:8 used the GEKS method to aggregate C+G and then used the Geary-Khamis method to aggregate C+G with I. Typically this will not make much difference.  (2) FIT made consistent productivity adjustments for the Health, Education and General Government sectors (the World Bank made some adjustments for some regions but not for others—had to respect regional preferences).  (3) Following Deaton and Heston (2013), Chinese consumption prices for 2005 were adjusted down by 20%.  The following chart compares WB and FIT parities for 2005. 7
  • 8. Discussion of Expenditure Side Real GDP, RGDPe (4) 8
  • 9. The Index Number Formula and PPP Reliability (1)  FIT note that (following Deaton and Heston 2010) it is hard to compare wildly different countries.  Why? Because they can be consuming totally different goods and services. How can we compare the incomparable?  Thus price comparisons over time (within a country) are likely to be much more accurate than price comparisons over space (PPP comparisons). Thus the relative real GDP estimates generated by PPPs are not as reliable as the time series estimates.  Even with perfectly accurate PPPs at the basic heading level, there will be problems in comparing real GDP over space due to big differences in relative prices across countries; superlative indexes will no longer closely approximate each other. And non-superlative multilateral indexes (like GK) will be even more different than multilateral indexes base on bilateral superlative indexes (like GEKS). 9
  • 10. The Index Number Formula and PPP Reliability (2)  Thus FIT note that the differences between the GK and GEKS PPP for a single country can easily be as big as 50% and thus they note that “due care is needed when comparing living standards between rich and poor countries”.  A problem with the GEKS multilateral method is that it may be too democratic; i.e., every country plays a role as a numeraire country, where its price (or quantity) structure is compared in a bilateral fashion with the prices (or quantities) of every other country in the comparison. Once all of these “star” parities have been constructed, GEKS simply takes the equally weighted geometric mean of these star parities as the final parities.  I think that a better way of linking countries is by spatial linking or similarity linking; see the many papers by Robert Hill but in particular his chapter 9 in D.S. Prasada Rao (2009), Purchasing Power Parities of Currencies (and look at my Chapter 8 in the book as well!). 10
  • 11. The Problem with an Additive Method (like GK) 11 A B C q2 q1
  • 12. The Index Number Formula and PPP Reliability (4)  FIT also note that it is hard to justify the assumption of homothetic (and identical) preferences across countries, which is the usual justification for the use of the Fisher index. • But Törnqvist-Theil bilateral price and quantity indexes can be justified for non-homothetic (but identical) preferences (this was already done in my 1976 Journal of Econometrics article on superlative indexes) and for non-homothetic and even non-identical preferences; see Caves, Christensen and Diewert (1982), Econometrica 50 (1982), pages 1409-1411 and Diewert (2009), “Cost of Living Indexes and Exact Index Numbers”, Chapter 8 in Quantifying Consumer Preferences, edited by Daniel Slottje in the Contributions to Economic Analysis Series, United Kingdom: Emerald Group Publishing, pp. 207-246. • We turn now to a discussion of RGDPo 12
  • 13. Discussion of Output Side Real GDP, RGDP0 (1) • The second major change that FIT implemented was to introduce output oriented measures of Real GDP that could be compared across time and space, RGDPo . • Essentially, they constructed PPPs for exports and imports (using detailed unit value statistics for X and M) which is appropriate if we want to apply a production theory framework to model the relative outputs of each economy in the comparison project. • Thus this is all good as far as I am concerned! • These production theory real output measures can be matched up with the corresponding real input measures for at least a number of countries (EUKLEMS and World KLEMS provide suitable estimates for many countries) and then we can compare productivity levels of countries compared to a world frontier and study convergence etc. ,13
  • 14. Discussion of Output Side Real GDP, RGDP0 (2)  On the previous slide, I have already mentioned the third major innovation that FIT have introduced into the Penn World Tables; namely information on capital stocks and labour input for selected countries.  But the capital stock estimates are incomplete. These estimates are of stocks and the list of stocks is incomplete.  In particular, there are no estimates for the stocks of land, inventories, subsoil natural resources and R&D at present.  Presumably as more countries develop their balance sheet estimates, these gaps will be filled in.  The labour estimates are also a bit crude; no adjustment for hours worked. But it is a start!  The following slide shows the output differences for 2005. 14
  • 15. Final Expenditure Side vs Output Side Real GDP 15
  • 16. Possible Directions for Change (1) (1) For RGDPe , it seems to me that we should move to net product from gross product. Nobody can consume depreciation but net additions to the capital stock are definitely contributions to welfare. If PWT were to move to the net framework, it would set a wonderful precedent! Moreover, net investment is a lot smaller than gross investment and so it would not matter so much what index number formula is used to aggregate C+G with I. (2) For both GDP concepts, I am assuming that the interpolation method is the same. The authors suggest a form of linear interpolation between benchmarks. I have suggested an alternative interpolation scheme to the authors which I think is “better”; see Diewert (2014), “Alternative Measures of OECD Output Growth and Inflation” UBC discussion paper 14-01. Maybe they could consider it. 16
  • 17. Possible Directions for Change (2) For RGDPo , I would like to suggest the following: • Indirect taxes should be removed from consumption prices in order to better justify the economic approach to the output quantity index and to productivity analysis. (This follows the productivity literature started by Jorgenson and Griliches, 1968, 1972). • The authors should consider using the approach outlined by Caves, Christensen and Diewert EJ (1982) and Diewert and Morrison EJ (1986), which justifies the use of Törnvist-Theil indexes in a production theory context. • Try to fill in some of the gaps in the capital stock estimates. It should be possible to extend the KLEMS data to include inventory stocks and for the few countries that have annual balance sheets, land estimates should be available. Land is a tremendously important missing input in the KLEMS framework. 17
  • 18. Possible Directions for Change (3) • As the World KLEMs database improves, the primary input data base for PWT can also improve. I think that the PWT should not put out poor quality data on primary inputs. If they do, people will use it and come up with all sorts of problematic empirical results. So restrict the primary input base to countries where you are more comfortable about the data quality. • The application of traditional production theory to the Health, Education and General Government sectors is problematic. Also, traditional production theory does not apply to the financial sector (and we do not have a consensus on how to measure outputs and inputs in this sector). Perhaps PWT should leave out these problematic sectors until measurement improves in these hard to measure sectors. (Advertising, R&D and Business Consulting also tough). Conclusion: a great paper and a great leap forward! 18