Title of Meeting: Motorcycling Matters Meeting
Date of Meeting: Wednesday 5th September 2007 – 1600hrs
Simon Deards Bedfordshire County Council
Rob Wood Bedfordshire Highways/Amey
Nicola Dawson-Randell BLCRP
Caryl Jones BLCRP
Christine Davy Luton Borough Council
Chris Chandler Bedfordshire County Council
David Coulson Motorcyclist – Wings, Goldwing
Graham Seymour Honda Owners Club
Bob Long BMF
Will Curry SMART Motorcycle Training
Apologies: Alan Collins Luton Borough Council, Paul Collis DSA, John
Chandler Amey, Insp. Jane Aspin Bedfordshire Police, Peter Wathen
Motorcycle Action Group, PC Pete Smith RSET Bedfordshire Police, Cllr
Lawrence Luton Borough Council, Andrew Shilliday Highways Agency,
Sgt Tony Richardson Bedfordshire Police, Jon Shortland Bedfordshire
Highways Amey, Neil O’Leary Bedfordshire Highways/Amey, Kevin
Penfold Bedfordshire Highways/Amey, Bill Brady Bedfordshire County
Council, Geoff Hoptroff SMART Motorcycle Training.
No. Item Actioned by
Simon asked all at the meeting to introduce themselves.
2. Actions from previous minutes
Ongoing action: Jon to speak to Gordon Pearsall regarding
Ongoing action: Jon, Kevin and Simon to take the idea of
designated motorcycle parking in St. Paul’s Square to Bedford
Borough Council and the Parking Shop.
Motorcycling Matters Meeting, Bedfordshire Highways, Woodlands Annexe, Manton Lane, Bedford,
Simon gave an update regarding faults which were brought up during
the last Motorcycling Matters meeting, which Nick Woodgate attended,
and the results are as follows:
High Street, Flitton: gravel has been cleared.
A421 roundabout at Cardington Cross: pot holes repaired
Maulden Road, Flitwick: Gully cleaning has been carried out.
The feedback from the group in relation to these actions was positive.
Following the accident Steven Neate had it was decided that Bob would
not approach him for an interview at present. Bob did confirm that he
has other contacts, which he can follow up.
Simon agreed with Caryl that the option to ‘participate in forum
meetings’ should be left on the website but that the nature of meetings
needs clarification and minutes will in due course be published on the
Simon handed out photographs from the Emergency Aid for Bikers a
course, which was run by St John Ambulance on the 30th June ’07 and
photos from the Mary Amos Cole event held on the same day. Simon
confirmed that both events went well and was pleased that the forum
has been involved in both events.
3. Report on A6 Safety Ride.
Simon offered his sincere thanks to Debbie Poynton and Jon Shortland
for helping to organise the day and making such a good job of it.
Rob Wood handed out a report on the feedback supplied by the riders
on the day. Rob then gave a brief description of what the report
Rob confirmed that accident stats indicate 14 casualties on this route
and 9 riders were aged 30 and below. The feedback from the
questionnaires shows that the people who took part in the A6 safety ride
started in the age group of 30+. Rob felt that the older riders might have
different views to younger riders of what is causing difficulties. The clear
message here is that we do need to try to attract more involvement from
It was felt by the group that it is difficult to get younger people interested
in this type of event.
Simon felt that the day went well and something the forum could build
on in the future.
Action: Rob, Jon, Caryl, Simon, Bill Brady and forum to think about
approaches to attracting interest from key susceptible age groups.
Action: Caryl to put A6 safety ride feedback and action to be taken
report onto the Motorcycling Matters website.
Caryl showed a clip to the group from Anglian News regarding the A6
Following comments which had been placed on the website Caryl
handed out some possible designs for stickers with the Think Bike
message. Caryl asked the group for any comments on the designs. A
decision was reached to have the yellow background with the word
“Think” in red and word “Bike” in black.
Caryl handed out 3 different styles of lanyards and asked the group
what they thought. It was decided to have lanyards in red with white
writing and medium width.
The group also agreed just to have the stickers and lanyards as
merchandise for Motorcycling Matters at this stage.
Action: Caryl to progress orders for stickers and lanyards.
Action: Simon/Bill Brady, Caryl, Christine to discuss funding split.
Chris confirmed that a mail shot has gone out regarding a DfT campaign
being launched in September/October.
Action: Chris to supply list of who received mail shot and copy of
the information sent in case this can be used to correlate any
resulting interest on the website.
Will and Christine confirmed that they would be running a course at the
end of October at Luton 6th form college.
Forum Representation: Structure and Identity
Simon asked the meeting if we should formalise ourselves to help
promote ourselves externally. Simon suggested naming some of the
forum representatives on the website. The idea of naming individuals
on the website was a point of discussion and it continued towards an
agreement that the website and the forum itself needs to be made more
‘personal’ and ‘friendly’. At the moment it could be perceived as a bit of
an ambiguous entity. Decision to try to help to build up a profile of the
breadth of the experience, but SD believes that we need to put out a call
for younger riders through the website and also through those clubs or
groups already affiliated to the forum…Honda Owners, Oakley MC
Graham suggested having a page on the website introducing the forum
Action: Caryl, Simon to consider placing a question or two on the blog
that might encourage response from riders of 30 or below.
Action: All to send Caryl a brief summary giving information about
Action: Caryl to draft an idea for web page introducing forum
members and bring to the next meeting.
Caryl handed out Motorcycling Matters website analysis and gave an
explanation of the contents. Caryl confirmed that the blog is the most
Simon asked that anyone within the forum who had not registered with
the website to do so. Simon is keen that the first people to respond to
comments on the blog should be forum members.
Simon confirmed that St John Ambulance will be running another
Emergency Aid for bikers course on the 22nd September and Simon will
be going along to take some more photos.
Christine confirmed that she is in the consultation stage regarding
motorcycles in bus lanes and will be doing the report to Scrutiny
Committee in November. Christine confirmed going well so far.
Christine confirmed that there is secure motorcycle parking at Beech Hill
car park, Dunstable Road Luton.
Christine said she has received a request for motorcycle parking at
Luton and Dunstable Hospital and asked the group if parking was a
problem there. Bob confirmed that there is sufficient parking and does
not believe that any more is required.
A point was raised about the inadequacy in some cases of signing to
motorcycling parking areas. There is scope to give clearer information
in multi-storey car parks and wider potential in relation to the improving
accessibility of travel information and details of parking information
generally, be that by enhancing existing parking literature or providing
maps on appropriate websites. Beds County, Luton Borough, Bedford
Borough etc. Perhaps Beds as a whole on Motorcycling Matters
website. Forum to provide biker feedback and advice on parking
Simon confirmed that Insp. Aspin, Sgt Richardson and Sgt Bonner are
visiting the Metropolitan Police to have a look at their Bike Safe
initiatives and will send feed back for the next meeting.
Simon advised the group that Caryl is currently working on a motorcycle
survey. Caryl confirmed that the survey is being funded by the
Bedfordshire and Luton Casualty Reduction Partnership and will be a
telephone survey and hopefully online as well.
There was a useful discussion about how effective the telephone survey
approach will be and how the company contracted to carry out the
survey will choose potential interviewees. The decision was to continue
with the survey as planned.
Suggested that DVLA be the primary point of contact to obtain details of
Also mention made of using existing cordon traffic count data to
extrapolate proportions of motorcyclists using certain routes.
Action: Simon to speak to Ian Tyers (Beds CC data
Simon encouraged the group to ensure that they send any events
through to Caryl by email so they can be out up onto the website.
8. Date of Next Meeting
Wednesday 5th December 16:00hrs Woodlands Annexe, Bedford.