From Project Proposal to                                          Published Paper: Disseminating                          ...
Why?Project Proposal to Published Paper:                                         Hazel Hall                               ...
Students are required to disseminate                                         Students are required to disseminate         ...
Track record of publishing Honours work:                                       Track record of publishing Honours work:   ...
Publications on our personal lists is good for:                                          Publications on our personal list...
The “good” tutor                                          The “good” tutor                                          Entry ...
Matching Learning OutcomesProject Proposal to Published Paper:                                        Towards the SQA fram...
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Demonstrate and/or work with:                                       Demonstrate and/or work with:                         ...
Demonstrate and/or work with:                                       Demonstrate and/or work with:                         ...
Demonstrate and/or work with:                                       Demonstrate and/or work with:                         ...
Demonstrate and/or work with:                                        Demonstrate and/or work with:                        ...
Level 4 – Hons Project:                                       Over 70% - A mark in this band indicates an                 ...
Often the process of creating a paper is one which students find                                       beneficial, especia...
Abstract. A summary of the paper, identifying its key aims, the                                       methods used, and th...
Case StudiesProject Proposal to Published Paper:                                        A few examples                    ...
The goal of a BSc Software Technology student was to                                       be employed by a computer games...
A key element of integrating research with undergraduate                                       projects is to find the bes...
A number of School of Computing undergraduate                                       and MSc students completed projects in...
The high profile work of their predecessors has                                       helped Information Management studen...
The organisers of the 2003 International                                       Conference on Virtual Communities knew of t...
A final year Information Management student                                       completed his project on the theme of th...
A postgraduate project required a group of                                       students to create a web site for a talki...
CautionProject Proposal to Published Paper:                                          It’s not all perfect                 ...
•• What is worth publishing?                                           What is worth publishing?                          ...
Identification of Work and                                       ChannelsProject Proposal to Published Paper:             ...
The “best” work?                                            The “best” work?                                           Int...
Output from ModulesProject Proposal to Published Paper:                                          Using research papers for...
Advanced Security and Mobile Network Module (Level 4)                                       Advanced Security and Mobile N...
Reasonable papers                                                                 Good papers                             ...
IIthink that after the two courseworks we submitted, we                                                think that after th...
ConclusionsProject Proposal to Published Paper:                                          The Ups and the Downs            ...
Published work can help justify a good mark for a project.                                          Published work can hel...
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Hazel Hall's paper, co-authored with Bill Buchanan, presented at Enhancing learning and teaching: innovation, scholarship and research, Napier University Edinburgh, 22 June 2004. The full text of the paper is available from http://drhazelhall.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/2004_hall_buchanan_publish_student_eddev.pdf

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  1. 1. From Project Proposal to Published Paper: Disseminating Students’ Research FindingsProject Proposal to Published Paper: Dr Hazel Hall, Senior Lecturer, SoC Dr Bill Buchanan, Reader, SoC Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (1)
  2. 2. Why?Project Proposal to Published Paper: Hazel Hall Why? Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (2)
  3. 3. Students are required to disseminate Students are required to disseminate research results locally. research results locally.Project Proposal to Published Paper: When is it appropriate for the results to be When is it appropriate for the results to be disseminated further? disseminated further? Why Publish? Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (3)
  4. 4. Track record of publishing Honours work: Track record of publishing Honours work: Hall, H., & Graham, D. (2004). Creation and recreation: motivating collaboration to Hall, H., & Graham, D. (2004). Creation and recreation: motivating collaboration to generate knowledge capital in online communities. International Journal of generate knowledge capital in online communities. International Journal of Information Management, 24, 235-246. Information Management, 24, 235-246. Hall, H. & Jones, A.M. (2000). Show off the corporate library. International Journal of Hall, H. & Jones, A.M. (2000). Show off the corporate library. International Journal of Information Management, 20, 121-130. Information Management, 20, 121-130.Project Proposal to Published Paper: Hall, H. & Smith, N. (1997). Youll wish ititwas all over: the bibliographic control of grey Hall, H. & Smith, N. (1997). Youll wish was all over: the bibliographic control of grey literature with reference to print football fanzines. Serials, 10(2), 189-194. literature with reference to print football fanzines. Serials, 10(2), 189-194. Hall, H. & Russell, A. (1996). Resource management in an electronic environment: Hall, H. & Russell, A. (1996). Resource management in an electronic environment: company library Web pages and collection development principles. In D.I. company library Web pages and collection development principles. In D.I. Raitt & B. Jeapes (Eds.), Proceedings of the 20th International Online Raitt & B. Jeapes (Eds.), Proceedings of the 20th International Online Meeting, London, December 3-5 1996 (pp. 471-475). Oxford: Learned Meeting, London, December 3-5 1996 (pp. 471-475). Oxford: Learned Information. Information. Hall, H. & Butler, A. (1995). Mergers and take-overs in the online industry: impacts on Hall, H. & Butler, A. (1995). Mergers and take-overs in the online industry: impacts on information services provision and user satisfaction. In D.I. Raitt & B. Jeapes information services provision and user satisfaction. In D.I. Raitt & B. Jeapes (Eds.) Proceedings of the 19th International Online Meeting, London, (Eds.) Proceedings of the 19th International Online Meeting, London, December 55- -771995 (pp. 267-279). Oxford: Learned Information. December 1995 (pp. 267-279). Oxford: Learned Information. Buchanan, W.J., Migas, N., Sinclair, G. & McArtney, K. (2004 in press). Analysis of an Buchanan, W.J., Migas, N., Sinclair, G. & McArtney, K. (2004 in press). Analysis of an agent-based metric-driven for ad-hoc, on-demand routing. Journal of Ad-hoc agent-based metric-driven for ad-hoc, on-demand routing. Journal of Ad-hoc Networks. Networks. Buchanan W.J., and Llamas, D. (2004). Covert channel analysis and detection using Buchanan W.J., and Llamas, D. (2004). Covert channel analysis and detection using reverse proxy servers. Paper to be presented at 3rd International Conference on reverse proxy servers. Paper to be presented at 3rd International Conference on Electronic Warfare and Security (EIWC), University of London, June 2004. Electronic Warfare and Security (EIWC), University of London, June 2004. Our Experience Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (4)
  5. 5. Publications on our personal lists is good for: Publications on our personal lists is good for: •Individual •IndividualProject Proposal to Published Paper: •Research group •Research group •University •University Satisfaction of supervision job well done Satisfaction of supervision job well done Boost for students Boost for students Job applications Job applications Research career Research career Obvious Reasons for Publishing Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (5)
  6. 6. The “good” tutor The “good” tutor Entry to academic publishing Entry to academic publishing Promotion of NapierProject Proposal to Published Paper: Promotion of Napier Deeper student reflection on learning Deeper student reflection on learning Less Obvious Reasons Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (6)
  7. 7. Matching Learning OutcomesProject Proposal to Published Paper: Towards the SQA framework Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (7)
  8. 8. Module Module Project Module Module Project Level 7 (15 credits) (15 credits) (30 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (30 credits) MSc SCQF 11 Module Module Module Module Module Module Module Module (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) Module Module Module Module Module Module Hons. Level 4 (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) Hons. BEng (Hons)Project Proposal to Published Paper: Project Module Module Module Project SCQF 10 Module (15 credits) Module (15 credits) Module (15 credits) (30 credits) (30 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) Module Module Group Project Module Module Group Project Level 3 (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (30 credits) (30 credits) Module Module Module Module BSc SCQF 9 Module (15 credits) Module (15 credits) Module (15 credits) Module (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) Module Module Module Module Module Module Module Module Level 2 (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) Higher Diploma Module Module Module Module SCQF 8 Module (15 credits) Module (15 credits) Module (15 credits) Module (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) Module Module Module Module Module Module Module Module Level 1 (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) Higher Certificate Module Module Module Module SCQF Module (15 credits) Module (15 credits) Module (15 credits) Module (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) Typical Scottish Programme Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (8)
  9. 9. Module Module Project Module Project Good opportunity Level 7 (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (30 credits) (30 credits) especially if the SCQF 11 Module Module Module Module student has a strong (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) background in the area Module Module Module Good opportunity Module Hons. Level 4 (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) Hons. to publish as the bestProject Proposal to Published Paper: Project Module Module Module Project SCQF 10 (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (30 credits) (30 credits) students often have a degree of research/ analytical work in their Module Module Group Project project. Group Project Level 3 (15 credits) (15 credits) (30 credits) (30 credits) SCQF 9 Module Module Module Module Possibility to publish (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) if an assessment is focused on the Module Module Module Module production of a Level 2 (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) research paper Module Module Module Module SCQF 8 (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) Poor opportunity Module Module Module Module to publish as (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) the work tends Level 1 to be development Module Module Module Module SCQF (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) (15 credits) related. Possible areas to publish student work Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (9)
  10. 10. Demonstrate and/or work with: Demonstrate and/or work with: knowledge that covers and integrates most of the knowledge that covers and integrates most of the principal areas, features, boundaries, terminology principal areas, features, boundaries, terminology and conventions of a subject/discipline.Project Proposal to Published Paper: and conventions of a subject/discipline. a critical understanding of the principal theories, a critical understanding of the principal theories, concepts and principles. concepts and principles. detailed knowledge and understanding in one or detailed knowledge and understanding in one or more specialisms some of which is informed by or at more specialisms some of which is informed by or at the forefront of a subject/discipline. the forefront of a subject/discipline. knowledge and understanding of the ways in which knowledge and understanding of the ways in which the subject/discipline is developed, including a the subject/discipline is developed, including a range of established techniques of enquiry or range of established techniques of enquiry or research methodologies. research methodologies. Ref: SQA Framework document Ref: SQA Framework document SQA Framework for Knowledge (Hons. Level) Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (10)
  11. 11. Demonstrate and/or work with: Demonstrate and/or work with: Use a range of the principal skills, practices and/or Use a range of the principal skills, practices and/or materials associated with a subject/discipline. materials associated with a subject/discipline. Use a few skills, practices and/or materials whichProject Proposal to Published Paper: Use a few skills, practices and/or materials which are specialised, advanced, or at the forefront of a are specialised, advanced, or at the forefront of a subject/discipline. subject/discipline. Execute a defined project of research, Execute a defined project of research, development or investigation and identify and development or investigation and identify and implement relevant outcomes. implement relevant outcomes. Practise in a range of professional level contexts Practise in a range of professional level contexts which include a degree of unpredictability and/or which include a degree of unpredictability and/or specialism. specialism. Ref: SQA Framework document Ref: SQA Framework document SQA Framework for Practice (Hons. Level) H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (11) Dr
  12. 12. Demonstrate and/or work with: Demonstrate and/or work with: Critically identify, define, conceptualise, and analyse Critically identify, define, conceptualise, and analyse complex/professional level problems and issues. complex/professional level problems and issues. Offer professional level insights, interpretations andProject Proposal to Published Paper: Offer professional level insights, interpretations and solutions to problems and issues. solutions to problems and issues. Critically review and consolidate knowledge, Critically review and consolidate knowledge, skills and practices and thinking in a skills and practices and thinking in a subject/discipline. subject/discipline. Demonstrate some originality and creativity in Demonstrate some originality and creativity in dealing with professional level issues. dealing with professional level issues. Ref: SQA Framework document Ref: SQA Framework document SQA Framework for Generic Cognitive Skills (Hons. Level) (12) Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan
  13. 13. Demonstrate and/or work with: Demonstrate and/or work with: Take significant responsibility for the work of others Take significant responsibility for the work of others and for a range of resources. and for a range of resources. Work with others to bring about change,Project Proposal to Published Paper: Work with others to bring about change, development and/or new thinking. development and/or new thinking. Work effectively under guidance in a peer Work effectively under guidance in a peer relationship with qualified practitioners. relationship with qualified practitioners. Make formal presentations about specialised Make formal presentations about specialised topics to informed audiences topics to informed audiences Communicate with professional level peers and Communicate with professional level peers and specialists. specialists. Ref: SQA Framework document Ref: SQA Framework document SQA Framework for Autonomy (Hons. Level) Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (13)
  14. 14. Level 4 – Hons Project: Over 70% - A mark in this band indicates an excellent level of achievement. A professionalProject Proposal to Published Paper: piece of software or other deliverable will have been produced and a dissertation worthy of dissemination. Over 85% - … first class technical achievement together with a dissertation containing a contribution worthy of publication. Matching to Learning Outcomes Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (14)
  15. 15. Often the process of creating a paper is one which students find beneficial, especially one those who are at the top end of a 2:1, or as a 1st class classification. This is typically a new skill for the student, who is unused to taking a large document, and distilling it down to a few papers, without losing the key elements.Project Proposal to Published Paper: This can often lead to a strong sense of teamwork where the student feeds drafts to the supervisor, who then rigorously edits and tries to focus the paper. Unfortunately few undergraduate students go through this amount of rigor in their work, and many struggle, initially, to know how to write a research paper Research Paper Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (15)
  16. 16. Abstract. A summary of the paper, identifying its key aims, the methods used, and the results. Introduction. A focused discussion of the main aims and the context of the work. Background. A discussion of the key underpinningProject Proposal to Published Paper: theory/technologies involved in the area. Model/Design/Methodology. An outline of the key elements of the work. Many students are keen to add too much detail in this section, as they do not see that the actual implementation is of less interest than the methodology used. Results. A key area of the paper, which should summarise the main results from the work, especially focused on proving delivery on the aims of the work. Conclusions. A reflective statement on how well the work has matched the aims. Research Paper Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (16)
  17. 17. Case StudiesProject Proposal to Published Paper: A few examples Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (17)
  18. 18. The goal of a BSc Software Technology student was to be employed by a computer games company. For his final year project he created a real-time military strategy computer game. The work involved a fair amount of engineering. For example: when one squad attached another, each squads formation would break up into individual one-to-one fights; if a soldier won one fight it would go and help another; and after anProject Proposal to Published Paper: enemy squad was destroyed the winning squad would re-form and be commandable as a squad again. The unique selling point of the system was that it learnt continually as the user played: its strategy changed in response to that of the user. This greatly extended the games playability. With his supervisor, the student had a paper accepted, and published, in a big international conference. Subsequently the student found a job with a well-known games company on the strength of this paper. The fact that the ideas had been externally reviewed and accepted were probably a lot more persuasive than the student simply talking about his project work at an interview - games companies receive a very large number of employment enquiries. Prof. Peter Ross Games Project Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (18)
  19. 19. A key element of integrating research with undergraduate projects is to find the best students. Often these types of students will actively find their supervisors, as someone who they respect for their knowledge and skills. This was the case with a Software Engineering student who created a system which could test mobile devices for their fitness in creating networks which do not have any fixed infrastructure. The student was identified as a first-class Honours student at the start of his project, and his work was integrated closely with PhD studentsProject Proposal to Published Paper: in the School of Computing. This is a key link as the supervisor can guide and advise, but it is typically the PhD students who can discuss the fine-detail of the project, and help with the experimental part. At the end of the project the creation of a research paper was discussed and the PhD student and supervisor discussed the merit of each experiment, and in the results that it showed. The appraisal was that it did show many new things, and it was decided to try and publish it at the highest level (Journal of Ad-hoc Networks – the most respected journal in the field of ad-hoc networks), rather than reducing the quality and going for a lower-level conference. The viva then went ahead with the knowledge of the paper, which made it easier for the marking team to justify the mark of over 70%. The only regret was that the paper had not been accepted at that point, and that the other examiner had to take the word of the supervisor and the PhD student that they Research Group thought that it merited publication. This problem has been 2004: Two 1st class, One overcome this year by getting a student to submit to a Upper 2:1 [Two papers conference in June 2004 (International Conference in published] Information Warfare and Security), thus the examiners were 2003: One 1st class, Three well aware that the paper had been peer-reviewed. Upper 2:1 Journal of Ad-hoc Networks Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (19)
  20. 20. A number of School of Computing undergraduate and MSc students completed projects in association with the Royal Observatory. Some of the MSc work reached a high level, and this resulted in a couple of the students getting their names on a publication, one of whom was then employed by the Observatory. The job involvedProject Proposal to Published Paper: a lot of travel between the two main observatories - in the Canary Islands and Hawaii. Dr A.Armitage Case Study 2 Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (20)
  21. 21. The high profile work of their predecessors has helped Information Management students and graduates at their first conferences and professional events integrate at networking sessions. A short story illustrates this. A set of new graduates working in the financial services sector in London attended an evening meeting ofProject Proposal to Published Paper: the City Information Group. Initially shy, the ice was broken for them when it soon became clear that the networking track had been prepared for them, not least because the quality of the output from their course was known through the earlier publications of their peers. Dr H.Hall Case Study 3 Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (21)
  22. 22. The organisers of the 2003 International Conference on Virtual Communities knew of the reputation of University staff in this area of research and so made an approach with a request for a paper. In the event student work on a world-wide virtual community of over 2,500 code breaking enthusiasts was prepared for theProject Proposal to Published Paper: event. The paper was also subsequently published in an international refereed journal. Dr H. Hall Commissioning the Code-Breakers Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (22)
  23. 23. A final year Information Management student completed his project on the theme of the bibliographic control of grey literature, i.e. how ephemeral publications such as leaflets and reports with low circulation numbers are identified and recorded as per the terms of the 1911 Copyright Act. His field work was completed with editors of print football fanzines. The work had publication potentialProject Proposal to Published Paper: because it used an interesting set of data subjects, and because the results provided entertaining insight into the alternative practices of underground publishers. It was presented as the last paper at a (serious) conference on serial publications by the student and tutor, dressed in football shirts. In the published version of the paper an editorial note advised that like all sporting events, the material reported was been seen live. (A further interesting point about the live presentation of this paper is that it was witnessed by some influential people from the serial publishing and information management industries. The ramifications of this have included further invitations to present, and invited membership of two high profile industry committees.) Dr H.Hall The bibliographic control of grey literature H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (23) Dr
  24. 24. A postgraduate project required a group of students to create a web site for a talking newspaper organisation. The opportunity to publish an account of the work completed – the adaptation of what was learnt and the wider appreciation of the field through reading in the context of practical constraints encounteredProject Proposal to Published Paper: when working with a client organisation – formalised and captured the experience. The students thus reflected more deeply on their learning than they might have done otherwise. Tom McEwan Post-project reflections Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (24)
  25. 25. CautionProject Proposal to Published Paper: It’s not all perfect Note of caution Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (25)
  26. 26. •• What is worth publishing? What is worth publishing? • How can we handle students in cases where, for • How can we handle students in cases where, for example, what is produced is not worth publishing, or a example, what is produced is not worth publishing, or aProject Proposal to Published Paper: paper is rejected? paper is rejected? • Why bother with students collaborators in favour of • Why bother with students collaborators in favour of research-active colleagues? research-active colleagues? • Doesn’t this practice risk flooding the domain with low • Doesn’t this practice risk flooding the domain with low quality trivia? quality trivia? • What about information risk, for example, IPR, • What about information risk, for example, IPR, plagiarism? plagiarism? Note of caution Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (26)
  27. 27. Identification of Work and ChannelsProject Proposal to Published Paper: ? How to Identify? Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (27)
  28. 28. The “best” work? The “best” work? Interesting, novel work Interesting, novel workProject Proposal to Published Paper: Work may be commissioned Work may be commissioned Usual channels Usual channels Careful consideration of level Careful consideration of level Targeted student outlets Targeted student outlets How to Identify? Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (28)
  29. 29. Output from ModulesProject Proposal to Published Paper: Using research papers for assessments Software Security Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (29)
  30. 30. Advanced Security and Mobile Network Module (Level 4) Advanced Security and Mobile Network Module (Level 4) Learning Outcomes: Learning Outcomes: L3 To be evaluate mobile and ad-hoc networks, in terms of infrastructure, L3 To be evaluate mobile and ad-hoc networks, in terms of infrastructure, topology, routing, computation, security and their associated topology, routing, computation, security and their associated communications. communications.Project Proposal to Published Paper: L4 To critically evaluate current research in the area of security and mobile L4 To critically evaluate current research in the area of security and mobile networks, and assess current technological boundaries in the networks, and assess current technological boundaries in the implementation of these technologies. implementation of these technologies. Sample This is the home site for the 1st Conference on Mobile Applications. Mobile networks offer an excellence opportunity for increased mobility in network access, and may lead to new network models and applications of networks. The objective of this coursework is to write a research paper which is submitted to the following conference: 1st International Conference on the Application of Mobile Networks The aim of this conference is to present applications of mobile networks, and provide reviews of current technology in the key areas of RFID, Ad-hoc Networking, Location-finding in GSM networks, GSM/3G technology and Location-based services. ASMN Module (2nd Assessment) Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (30)
  31. 31. Reasonable papers Good papers Mark for the research paper (%) 70Project Proposal to Published Paper: 60 Strong papers 50 produced 40 30 20 10 0 C C+ B- B B+ A- Grade from first assignment Correlation between marks for the two courseworks Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (31)
  32. 32. IIthink that after the two courseworks we submitted, we think that after the two courseworks we submitted, we feel that an exam would be easy, because the feel that an exam would be easy, because the courseworks requires us to master the content of the courseworks requires us to master the content of the lectures and even deeper. lectures and even deeper.Project Proposal to Published Paper: This type of comment shows IIdid not like the four-page limit as it forced did not like the four-page limit as it forced that many students me to cut a lot of information out … me to cut a lot of information out … struggle to summarise material Example comments Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (32)
  33. 33. ConclusionsProject Proposal to Published Paper: The Ups and the Downs Software Security Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (33)
  34. 34. Published work can help justify a good mark for a project. Published work can help justify a good mark for a project. Students who wish to publish normally require some analytical Students who wish to publish normally require some analytical work to fully justify their methods. work to fully justify their methods. It is possible to create assignments at Level 4 which allow a It is possible to create assignments at Level 4 which allow a paper to be produced. paper to be produced. Each student who has published has found that the processProject Proposal to Published Paper: Each student who has published has found that the process has been rewarding, especially with the rigor involved. has been rewarding, especially with the rigor involved. It should be remembered that the student should actively It should be remembered that the student should actively want to publish. want to publish. The review process can be difficult to take, especially if it is a The review process can be difficult to take, especially if it is a rejection. rejection. Scholarship, innovation and research. Scholarship, innovation and research. Conclusions Dr H.Hall/Dr W.Buchanan (34)

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