Abstract: Some institutions offer graduate training that sits alongside the master/apprentice system. But many rely on models such as the Vitae Researcher Development Framework that do not encompass many (or any) open concepts. This means the training of researchers in many of these spaces falls to library staff. From the academic side, grassroots organisations such as AIMOS or ANZORN offer a community for the interested. There are multiple sets of competencies developed for scholarly communication librarians, but these are not represented in any university library course in Australia. So those teaching the research community are relying on gathered skills and working without a standardised set of agreed learnings for their target community. The result is haphazard and highly reliant on the skills of individuals at specific institutions. We are in need of some robust frameworks and standards. What are the minimum skills and knowledge we would expect of a graduate researcher in Australia when it comes to open? We are not starting from scratch, there are many organisations in Australia that have done work on some aspects of open training or skills. It is time for this to be brought into a cohesive and agreed standard we can all work towards. This was a lightning talk given online to AIMOS2020 (https://aimos.community/2020-program-schedule)