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Attempt 3 Writ, Danielle Scherer, Power Point

  1. 1. Hamline University School of Law William Mitchell College of Law University of Minnesota Law School
  2. 2. <ul><li>Introduction </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Purpose Statement </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Research </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Methods </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Findings </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Tables of Comparison </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Clinics </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Interview Summaries </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Recommendations (ranking of schools) </li></ul>
  3. 3. <ul><li>Prospective Law Students </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Looking to attend a school in the metro area of Minneapolis and St. Paul </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Current law students who would like to transfer to the metro area </li></ul><ul><li>Other Interested Parties </li></ul>
  4. 4. Here it is!
  5. 5. <ul><li>Hamline University School of Law </li></ul><ul><li>William Mitchell College of Law </li></ul><ul><li>University of Minnesota Law School </li></ul>
  6. 6. <ul><li>Choosing a graduate school is a difficult task </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Requires research </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Personal interviews </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Requires more research </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Inadequate research = Inadequate decisions </li></ul><ul><ul><li>You might enroll with a school that does not match your needs </li></ul></ul><ul><li>I will do the first few steps of research for you </li></ul>
  7. 8. <ul><li>Present and explain each school’s rankings </li></ul><ul><ul><li>From accredited news sources </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Personal interviews with students and advisors </li></ul><ul><li>Research of each school’s websites </li></ul><ul><ul><li>In other words, I’ll summarize the information presented into short, easy sentences </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Present information objectively </li></ul>
  8. 9. <ul><li>Help you study </li></ul><ul><li>Take your LSAT </li></ul><ul><li>Visit each campus </li></ul><ul><li>Give you personal opinions </li></ul>
  9. 10. <ul><li>Browsed each school’s website </li></ul><ul><li>Determined criteria to compare each school </li></ul><ul><ul><li>From a “student profile” </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Examples: LSAT, GPA, bar passage rate, tuition, etc. </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Constructed a set of interview questions </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Interviewed two advisers and four law students </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Reviewed information and researched even more </li></ul><ul><li>Formulated a recommendation based on the pre-specified criteria </li></ul>
  10. 12. <ul><li>Tuition </li></ul><ul><li>LSAT score </li></ul><ul><li>LSAT median </li></ul><ul><li>GPA </li></ul><ul><li>GPA Median </li></ul><ul><li>Average class size </li></ul><ul><li>Minnesota bar passage rate </li></ul><ul><li>School ranking </li></ul><ul><li>Student-to-faculty ratio </li></ul>
  11. 14. <ul><li>1. Tiers </li></ul><ul><li>Separated by certain characteristics such as: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Bar passage rate </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Assessment scores by lawyers and judges </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Acceptance rate </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Employment rate for graduates </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Each characteristic is weighed differently </li></ul><ul><li>There are four tiers </li></ul><ul><li>The first tier contains the 105 highest ranked schools </li></ul><ul><li>Schools ranked after 105 are not given a number ranking </li></ul>
  12. 15. <ul><li>2. LSAT = Law School Admissions Test </li></ul><ul><li>3. Matriculated class </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Students who are currently enrolled into the law school </li></ul></ul><ul><li>4. Median = the middle score in a range </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Range of 100-105 </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Median = 103 </li></ul></ul>
  13. 16. <ul><li>5. LSAT 25-75 percentile </li></ul><ul><ul><li>This statistic gives the range that 50% of enrolled students achieved. The other 50% of the students in the class achieved a lesser or better score than the two given scores; 25% of the students scored lower than the lowest number given and 25% of the students scored higher than the highest number given. </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Example, please? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>LSAT 25-75 percentile of a given school = 155-162 </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Interpretation </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>25% of the students achieved a LSAT score of less than 155 </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>25% of the students achieved a LSAT score higher than 162 </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>The rest of the students achieved scores within the range of 155-162 </li></ul></ul></ul>
  14. 19. * There is an extra fee of $5,740 for all law students at the University of Minnesota Law School. This fee includes health insurance and a required student laptop that contains all programs necessary to succeed at the University of Minnesota and technical support. School Tuition LSAT 25-75 Percentile LSAT Median GPA GPA Median Hamline $30,096 FT $21,670 PT 152-158 155 3.17-3.63 3.43 William Mitchell $15,325 FT $11,090 PT 153-158 156 3.22-3.71 3.53 U of M $21,900 Resident* $32,303 Non-res. 163-167 166 3.29-3.82 3.61
  15. 20. School Average Class Size MN Bar Passage Rate Ranking Student:Faculty Ratio Application Deadline Hamline 234 88.00% No Ranking Tier 3 14.6:1 April 1 William Mitchell 323 96.70% No Ranking Tier 4 No information available May 1 U of M 233 97.89% 22 nd Tier 1 12:1 April 1
  16. 21. <ul><li>Child Advocacy </li></ul><ul><li>Education Law </li></ul><ul><li>Employment Discrimination </li></ul><ul><li>Mediation Health Law </li></ul><ul><li>Immigration Law </li></ul><ul><li>Innocence Project </li></ul><ul><li>Mediation </li></ul><ul><li>Small Business/Non-profit </li></ul><ul><li>State Public Defender </li></ul><ul><li>Student Director Trial Practice </li></ul>
  17. 22. <ul><li>Business Law Clinic </li></ul><ul><li>Civil Advocacy Clinic </li></ul><ul><li>Community Development Clinic </li></ul><ul><li>Criminal Appeals Clinic </li></ul><ul><li>Criminal Justice Clinic </li></ul><ul><li>Immigration Law Clinic </li></ul><ul><li>Intellectual Property Law Clinic </li></ul><ul><li>Law and Psychiatry Clinic (with the University of Minnesota Medical School) </li></ul><ul><li>Legal Assistance to Minnesota Prisoners (LAMP) Clinic </li></ul><ul><li>LAMP/The Reentry Clinic </li></ul><ul><li>Legal Planning Clinic for Tax-Exempt Organizations and Low Income Clients (formerly Tax Planning Clinic) </li></ul><ul><li>Misdemeanor Clinic </li></ul>
  18. 23. <ul><li>Bankruptcy </li></ul><ul><li>Child Advocacy </li></ul><ul><li>Civil Practice </li></ul><ul><li>Consumer Protection </li></ul><ul><li>Criminal Appeals </li></ul><ul><li>Domestic Assault </li></ul><ul><li>Prosecution </li></ul><ul><li>Federal Housing </li></ul><ul><li>Immigration </li></ul><ul><li>Indian Child Welfare </li></ul><ul><li>Innocence Project </li></ul><ul><li>Misdemeanor Defense </li></ul><ul><li>Misdemeanor Prosecution </li></ul><ul><li>Multi-Disciplinary Business Law </li></ul><ul><li>Public Interest Law </li></ul><ul><li>Special Education </li></ul><ul><li>Tax </li></ul><ul><li>Worker’s Rights </li></ul>
  19. 25. <ul><li>Three Students surveyed from William Mitchell College of Law (WMCL) </li></ul><ul><li>One student surveyed from Cornell Law School </li></ul><ul><li>  </li></ul><ul><li>All students were in their first or second year </li></ul><ul><li>Average class size: 85 students </li></ul><ul><li>  </li></ul><ul><li>Smaller writing classes range from 12-30 students </li></ul><ul><li>  </li></ul><ul><li>Balance of personal time with school work </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Some said they have no personal time </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Those with part-time jobs said they had difficulty with time management </li></ul></ul><ul><li>  </li></ul><ul><li>Hours of class work expected from students </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Calculation: 1 class period = 3 hours outside of class </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Average: 30-45 hours of studying per week </li></ul></ul>
  20. 26. <ul><li>Teaching methods utilized by professors </li></ul><ul><ul><li>In order of most-used: lecture, Socratic Method, discussion </li></ul></ul><ul><li>  </li></ul><ul><li>Study individually or in groups? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Both </li></ul></ul><ul><li>  </li></ul><ul><li>Most challenging part of being a law student (in order of the most common challenge) </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Balancing school work load with personal time </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Not receiving feedback on performance until the end of the semester </li></ul></ul>
  21. 27. <ul><li>In order of most commonly suggested </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Be prepared to work hard </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Work hard </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Visit campuses to get a feel for the environment (since you will be spending a lot of time there) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Worry less about other people and worry more about what you can control </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Research schools and the legal profession </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Understand opportunities available </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Understand economics (public interest law – go for public schools because they will cost less. Other forms of law – private schools, tuition is more) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Make sure it is something you want to do </li></ul></ul>
  22. 29. University of Minnesota Career Advisor and Programming Coordinator for the Law School
  23. 30. <ul><ul><li>Nuts & Bolts Class: resumes, cover letters, networking, individual counseling </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Career Exploration Classes: lawyers and alumni from the community come in to talk about what they do </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Going to Work Classes: Students learn about the social norms in law firms and how to act and react to others once they get out into the working field </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Post job openings through a network called “Simplicity” </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Provide off campus interview programs for firms that are looking to hire law students </li></ul></ul>
  24. 31. <ul><ul><li>“ Idea of wanting to be a lawyer” </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Not many students come in with clear cut goals </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>40% of students “think they know what they want to do and have a GENERAL idea about their goals.” </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Major issue: the amount of debt that students struggle with </li></ul></ul>
  25. 32. <ul><ul><li>Old style: Socratic Method </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>U of M Law School doesn’t “use that so much anymore because it can either work really well or not work really well.” </li></ul></ul>
  26. 33. Assistant Director in the Office of Admissions at Hamline University School of Law
  27. 34. <ul><ul><li>Holistic review of every application (in order of importance) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Personal Statement </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>LSAT & GPA </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Volunteer work </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Leadership experiences </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Letter of recommendation </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><li>  </li></ul>
  28. 35. <ul><ul><li>Scholarships (eligibility) and how to pay for education </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Job opportunities that Hamline offers </li></ul></ul>
  29. 36. <ul><ul><li>Learn to write well and be able to express yourself through writing and speaking </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><ul><li>The application process at Hamline weighs most of its decision based on the personal statement which indicates that Hamline looks for students with strong writing skills </li></ul></ul></ul></ul>
  30. 37. <ul><ul><li>For every hour of class, students should plan on studying two hours outside of class </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>First year students take 14 credits per semester </li></ul></ul>
  31. 38. <ul><li>Time Management </li></ul><ul><li>Law students struggle greatly with managing their schoolwork and personal lives </li></ul>
  32. 40. <ul><li>Remember our criteria </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Tuition </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>LSAT score </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>LSAT median </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>GPA </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>GPA Median </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Average class size </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Minnesota bar passage rate </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>School ranking </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Student-to-faculty ratio </li></ul></ul>
  33. 41. <ul><li>This means that they look primarily at your LSAT and GPA scores </li></ul><ul><li>Why does Hamline do their application process differently? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>They focus on personal statements and writing abilities </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Also focus on other extracurriculars </li></ul></ul>
  34. 42. <ul><li>Remember the bottom line: can you pass the bar? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Hamline had the lowest score </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>WMCL and the U of M were within 1.19% of each other </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Regardless of ‘tier’ </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><li>Think of extra opportunities </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Clinics </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Job Opportunities </li></ul></ul>
  35. 43. <ul><li>The “working hard” trend </li></ul><ul><li>WMCL and the U of M approximated 3 hours of homework for every hour of class </li></ul><ul><li>Hamline approximated 2 hours of homework for every hour of class </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Think about what this indicates when considering work ethic and challenges presented to students </li></ul></ul>
  36. 45. <ul><li>University of Minnesota Law School </li></ul><ul><li>William Mitchell College of Law </li></ul><ul><li>Hamline University School of Law </li></ul>
  37. 46. <ul><li>Determine which kind of law you would like to practice </li></ul><ul><li>Visit the campuses </li></ul><ul><li>Don’t be afraid to ask questions </li></ul><ul><li>Talk to advisers and current students </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Take their advice </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>They have already been through the experience </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Study for the LSAT </li></ul>

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