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Deeper 3 - The Historical Proof For The Gospels

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Deeper 3

  1. 1. Why Deeper? 37.3 (71%) million state their religion as Christian in England and Wales. (2001 Census) Church of England attendance falls for fifth year in row. 3% of those claiming to be Christian. (Guardian Friday 22 January 2010 )
  2. 2. Why Deeper? 1 Peter 3:15 … Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect   We will never argue people into the Kingdom, but we need to have an answer for those who believe inaccurate information peddled as fact, by the like of Dawkins.
  3. 3. Ground Rules <ul><li>Do you own research, don’t trust me. </li></ul><ul><li>Sources and theology language not included for sake of easy reading. Please request my essay entitled ‘Can The Gospels Be Trusted As Evidence For Jesus” for that information. </li></ul><ul><li>Just because I am the author of the following does not mean I believe all that I am about to describe. This is an attempt to be prepared with an answer. </li></ul>
  4. 4. Colour Code <ul><li>Blue: Anything someone trying to prove the gospels as historic fact might say. May or may not be accepted by most theologians as true. </li></ul><ul><li>Red: Anything someone trying to disprove the gospels as historic fact might say. May or may not be accepted by most theologians as true. </li></ul><ul><li>Black: Neutral can be used as background information for either side. Probably accepted by most (but not necessarily all) theologians. </li></ul>
  5. 5. Method <ul><li>Proving the Gospels are historically accurate and hence Jesus is who he says he is. </li></ul><ul><li>Primary – How close it the source to the original material (time & generation). </li></ul><ul><li>Agreement - Multiple sources with a consistent message. </li></ul><ul><li>Motivation – Authors bias or desires. </li></ul>
  6. 6. Primary <ul><li>Written Within Decades of Jesus Death </li></ul><ul><li>Close sources </li></ul><ul><li>Oral tradition accurate </li></ul><ul><li>More accurate then Socrates & Alexander The Great </li></ul><ul><li>No writings during Jesus life or by Jesus himself </li></ul><ul><li>None of the Gospel writers were eye witnesses </li></ul><ul><li>Chinese whispers create errors </li></ul><ul><li>Multiple errors </li></ul>
  7. 7. Agreement <ul><li>Jesus of Nazareth existed </li></ul><ul><li>Socrates writers didn’t agree </li></ul><ul><li>Historians accepted legends do not start within two generations </li></ul><ul><li>MML Agree on much </li></ul><ul><li>Jesus just a teacher </li></ul><ul><li>The Gospels disagree on details </li></ul><ul><li>Legends explain any agreement within the Gospels </li></ul><ul><li>Using 3 criterion we find we know nothing of Jesus </li></ul>
  8. 8. Motivation <ul><li>Embarrassments within the Gospels show their lack of biases </li></ul><ul><li>Bias doesn’t mean falsehood </li></ul><ul><li>Christian martyrdom </li></ul><ul><li>Luke considered a historian </li></ul><ul><li>Gospels writers have a biases </li></ul><ul><li>Enough said! </li></ul>
  9. 9. In Conclusion The Gospels can be trusted as historical fact for Jesus The Gospels can not be trusted as historical fact for Jesus