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Members Advisory Forum
Welcome Remarks 
Henry Simmons, Chief Executive
Early Diagnosis Campaign 
How to start those difficult conversations & 
what would a campaign look like? 
Chris Lynch, Deputy Director, Communications & Marketing
Let’s talk about dementia!
Questions: 
1) From your own experiences: How can we encourage 
people to initiate the difficult conversations – especially 
the ‘worried about your memory’ conversation? What 
works, where, when and who? 
2) It’s a busy, noisy world - full of marketing messages. 
How can we get people’s attention? If it was you – how 
would we get your attention?
Let’s talk about dementia! 
Members’ Advisory Forum in April 2014. 
Barriers to getting a diagnosis 
•Fear 
•Stigma 
•Perceptions of dementia 
•Lack of knowledge of illness or help available 
•Response from professionals
Social marketing research. 
Changing Attitudes to Dementia 
Dr Nicholas Jenkins - University of Edinburgh: 
Recommendations: 
1)Involve people with a diagnosis, carers, partner, family, friends, plus professionals and 
experts. Case studies. 
2)The campaign should seek to promote a positive message, emphasising what is possible 
following diagnosis, rather than highlighting the symptoms or ‘warning signs’ of dementia. 
3)Disseminated information via a wide range of channels, including: local newspapers and 
websites, local TV & radio, websites, buses and leaflets. 
4)Care should be taken to ensure outputs from the campaign are accessible to people from 
BME communities. This includes translation into key BME languages (e.g. Urdu, Hindi, 
Cantonese) and dissemination through local BME channels (e.g. Awaz FM)
Let’s talk about dementia!
Lots of opportunities.
Educating Rita 
Michael Caine’s character: 
“How you would resolve the staging difficulties inherent in a 
production of Ibsen's Peer Gynt?” 
Julie Walter’s character: 
“do it on the radio"
“Do it on the radio!”
“Do it on the radio!” 
Bauer Radio Group: 
Clyde 2 
Forth 2 
Moray Firth Radio (Inverness, Highland, Moray) 
Northsound (Aberdeen/shire) 
Radio Borders 
Tay AM (Dundee, Perth, Kinross, Fife) 
West FM (Ayrshire) 
West Sound (Dumfries & Galloway)
Lots of opportunities.
Questions: 
1) From your own experiences: How can we encourage 
people to initiate the difficult conversations – especially 
the ‘worried about your memory’ conversation? What 
works, where, when and who? 
2) It’s a busy, noisy world - full of marketing messages. 
How can we get people’s attention? If it was you – how 
would we get your attention?
Break
Paying for care 
Jim Pearson, Deputy Director, Policy
Mixed economy of care in Scotland 
‒ NHS healthcare 
‒ Local Authority services 
‒ Voluntary sector providers 
‒ Private sector providers 
‒ Social Security Benefits – (e.g. Attendance Allowance, 
Disability Living Allowance, Personal Independent Payment) 
‒ Unpaid care
Economic Impact of Dementia in Scotland 
Source: Dementia 
UK, 2014
Paying for care 
‒ Health Care (free at point 
of delivery) 
‒ Social Care (subject to 
charges) 
‒ Two separate charging 
frameworks 
• Non residential care 
• Residential Care
Non Residential Care Charging 
‒ Sect 87 Social Work (Scot) Act 1968 makes provisions 
for local authorities to charge for social care 
• Charges must be reasonably practical to pay 
• Must not exceed the actual cost of providing the 
social care 
‒ Free personal and Nursing Care 
‒ Convention of Scottish Local Authorities (COSLA) 
Guidance 
‒ 32 Local Authorities = 32 Charging policies 
• Lack of transparency – many variables
Local Authority Charging Taper variations 
‒ Aberdeen City 67% 
‒ Aberdeenshire 100% 
‒ Angus 66% 
‒ Argyll & Bute 75% 
‒ Clackmannanshire 75% 
‒ Dumfries & Galloway 55% 
‒ Dundee City 65% 
‒ East Ayrshire 60% 
‒ East Dunbartonshire 50% 
‒ East Lothian 45% 
‒ East Renfrewshire 60% 
‒ Edinburgh City 31.89 
‒ Eilean Siar 50% 
‒ Falkirk 100% 
‒ Fife 50% 
‒ Glasgow City 50% 
(100% for older people) 
‒ Highland 50% 
‒ Inverclyde 25% 
‒ Midlothian 70% 
‒ Moray 100% 
‒ North Ayrshire 40% 
‒ North Lanarkshire 50% 
‒ Orkney Islands 15% 
‒ Perth & Kinross 100% 
‒ Renfrewshire 85% 
‒ Scottish Borders 24% 
‒ Shetland Islands 30% 
‒ South Ayrshire 25% 
‒ South Lanarkshire 50% 
‒ Stirling 75% 
‒ West Dunbartonshire 50%
Care Homes 
‒ National legal framework for charging [National 
Assistance (Assessment of Resources Regulations) 
(Scot) 1992] 
‒ Charging for residential accommodation guidance 
(CRAG) 
‒ These are national rules – setting out how local 
authorities treat an individual’s income and capital 
(including heritable property) in financial assessments 
• Counted in full 
• Fully Disregarded 
• Partially Disregarded
Care Home Charges 
‒ Standard rates for public funding: 
• £587.00 with nursing care 
• £499.38 without nursing care 
‒ Self funding rates 
• Between £650 & £800 on average 
‒ Free personal and nursing care 
• £169 for personal care (people aged 65 +) 
• £77 for nursing care 
• £246 (combined total) 
‒ Capital Limits : 
• Lower limit £16,000 
• Upper limit £26,000
Current Landscape 
‒ Health and social care integration 
‒ Self Directed Support 
‒ Review of NHS continuing health care 
‒ Residential Care Task force report 
‒ Dilnot Report – UK Care and Support Bill 
‒ Non-residential care charging guidance review 
‒ Review of national charging for residential care charging 
guidance 
‒ Welfare reforms – social security benefits
Dilnot Report & Care and Support Bill (UK) 
‒ £72k cap on life time care costs (Dilnot recommended 
£35k) 
‒ People will be expected to pay around £12,000 a year 
towards their general living costs if they can afford it 
‒ The State will be responsible for: 
• any further care costs once an individual reaches the 
£72,000 cap 
• financial help to people with their care and/or general 
living costs, if they have less than around £17,000 in 
assets, and insufficient income to cover care costs.
The Future of Residential Care for Older People 
in Scotland (recommendations) 
‒ Extra-care Housing 
‒ Short-term Residential 
Intermediate Care (step 
up step down) 
‒ Specialist Residential
The Future of Residential Care for Older People 
in Scotland (recommendations) 
‒ Accommodation, hotel, care, leisure and recreation costs 
should be separated. 
‒ Financial modelling work to ascertain the cost effect of 
raising capital limits in Scotland 
‒ Free Personal and Nursing Care contributions should be 
reviewed 
‒ Financial modelling to establish the costs of 
implementing a national commitment to pay the Living 
Wage in the care sector.
NHS Continuing Care 
‒ NHS Continuing 
Healthcare is a package 
of health care that is 
arranged and fully funded 
by the NHS 
‒ CEL 6 (2008) sets out 
assessment and eligibility 
criteria 
‒ ISD Annual Census 
‒ NHS Continuing 
Healthcare is currently 
under review
Independent Review of NHS Continuing 
Healthcare 
‒ Key recommendations 
• NHS CHC should be replaced with the term "Hospital 
Based Complex Clinical Care" and only provided in 
facilities wholly funded and managed by the NHS. 
• Three month multi disciplinary team assessment 
after admission to hospital (excluding delayed 
discharge), and ongoing review every three months. 
• Those currently receiving NHS continuing healthcare 
should not be financially disadvantaged.
Alzheimer Scotland’s contribution 
Influencing improvement throughout the illness 
‒Promoting earlier diagnosis 
‒Improving Diagnosis (rates and experience) 
‒Post Diagnostic Support guarantee – 5 Pillars 
‒Integrated & coordinated community support – 8 Pillars 
‒Advanced Dementia 
Alongside work on 
‒Improvements in health care 
‒Dementia friendly communities/ dementia friends
Questions 
1.What should people with dementia pay for, or not pay for, 
in an integrated health and social care system? 
2.How should care and support be funded for people with 
dementia in Scotland? 
3.Almost half of the current cost of care for dementia in 
Scotland is met by unpaid care – how can this gap be 
closed and carers better supported?
Lunch
Our Research Activity 
Maureen Thom, Information Manager
Aiming for maximum impact 
• Scottish Dementia Research Consortium 
• Alzheimer Scotland Dementia Research Centre, 
University of Edinburgh 
• Alzheimer Scotland Centre for Policy and Practice, 
University of West of Scotland 
• Building relationships with Universities across Scotland, 
sponsoring doctoral training programmes and funding 
research projects
Scottish Dementia Research Consortium 
• Bringing together Scottish based dementia researchers 
from all disciplines to promote collaboration and co-ordination 
• Represent Scottish research interests at UK level and 
Internationally 
• Communication with public about dementia research 
taking place in Scotland
Alzheimer Scotland Dementia Research Centre 
• Commission and build a balanced portfolio of scientific 
and clinical research 
• Attract external dementia research funding 
• Brain Tissue Bank 
Website: www.alzscotdrc.ed.ac.uk
Alzheimer Scotland Centre for Policy & 
Practice, University of West of Scotland 
Aims to advance dementia policy and practice through: 
•Education 
•Research and 
•Social enterprise 
Website: 
www.uws.ac.uk/research/research-institutes/health/alzheimer-scotland-
Our additional research activity 
• Building relationships with universities and dementia 
researchers across Scotland 
• Sponsoring doctoral training programmes (PhDs) 
• Funding research projects
Questions to Membership 
1. What are your views on the approach outlined today? 
What comments would you like to make on our 
research activity? 
2. The G8 Dementia Summit placed the priority for 
research on developing a cure or disease modifying 
treatment for dementia - what do you consider to be the 
priority/s for dementia research?
Closing Remarks 
Henry Simmons, Chief Executive
Members Advisory Forum

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Members Advisory Forum Research Insights

  • 2. Welcome Remarks Henry Simmons, Chief Executive
  • 3. Early Diagnosis Campaign How to start those difficult conversations & what would a campaign look like? Chris Lynch, Deputy Director, Communications & Marketing
  • 4. Let’s talk about dementia!
  • 5. Questions: 1) From your own experiences: How can we encourage people to initiate the difficult conversations – especially the ‘worried about your memory’ conversation? What works, where, when and who? 2) It’s a busy, noisy world - full of marketing messages. How can we get people’s attention? If it was you – how would we get your attention?
  • 6. Let’s talk about dementia! Members’ Advisory Forum in April 2014. Barriers to getting a diagnosis •Fear •Stigma •Perceptions of dementia •Lack of knowledge of illness or help available •Response from professionals
  • 7. Social marketing research. Changing Attitudes to Dementia Dr Nicholas Jenkins - University of Edinburgh: Recommendations: 1)Involve people with a diagnosis, carers, partner, family, friends, plus professionals and experts. Case studies. 2)The campaign should seek to promote a positive message, emphasising what is possible following diagnosis, rather than highlighting the symptoms or ‘warning signs’ of dementia. 3)Disseminated information via a wide range of channels, including: local newspapers and websites, local TV & radio, websites, buses and leaflets. 4)Care should be taken to ensure outputs from the campaign are accessible to people from BME communities. This includes translation into key BME languages (e.g. Urdu, Hindi, Cantonese) and dissemination through local BME channels (e.g. Awaz FM)
  • 8. Let’s talk about dementia!
  • 10. Educating Rita Michael Caine’s character: “How you would resolve the staging difficulties inherent in a production of Ibsen's Peer Gynt?” Julie Walter’s character: “do it on the radio"
  • 11. “Do it on the radio!”
  • 12. “Do it on the radio!” Bauer Radio Group: Clyde 2 Forth 2 Moray Firth Radio (Inverness, Highland, Moray) Northsound (Aberdeen/shire) Radio Borders Tay AM (Dundee, Perth, Kinross, Fife) West FM (Ayrshire) West Sound (Dumfries & Galloway)
  • 14. Questions: 1) From your own experiences: How can we encourage people to initiate the difficult conversations – especially the ‘worried about your memory’ conversation? What works, where, when and who? 2) It’s a busy, noisy world - full of marketing messages. How can we get people’s attention? If it was you – how would we get your attention?
  • 15. Break
  • 16. Paying for care Jim Pearson, Deputy Director, Policy
  • 17. Mixed economy of care in Scotland ‒ NHS healthcare ‒ Local Authority services ‒ Voluntary sector providers ‒ Private sector providers ‒ Social Security Benefits – (e.g. Attendance Allowance, Disability Living Allowance, Personal Independent Payment) ‒ Unpaid care
  • 18. Economic Impact of Dementia in Scotland Source: Dementia UK, 2014
  • 19. Paying for care ‒ Health Care (free at point of delivery) ‒ Social Care (subject to charges) ‒ Two separate charging frameworks • Non residential care • Residential Care
  • 20. Non Residential Care Charging ‒ Sect 87 Social Work (Scot) Act 1968 makes provisions for local authorities to charge for social care • Charges must be reasonably practical to pay • Must not exceed the actual cost of providing the social care ‒ Free personal and Nursing Care ‒ Convention of Scottish Local Authorities (COSLA) Guidance ‒ 32 Local Authorities = 32 Charging policies • Lack of transparency – many variables
  • 21. Local Authority Charging Taper variations ‒ Aberdeen City 67% ‒ Aberdeenshire 100% ‒ Angus 66% ‒ Argyll & Bute 75% ‒ Clackmannanshire 75% ‒ Dumfries & Galloway 55% ‒ Dundee City 65% ‒ East Ayrshire 60% ‒ East Dunbartonshire 50% ‒ East Lothian 45% ‒ East Renfrewshire 60% ‒ Edinburgh City 31.89 ‒ Eilean Siar 50% ‒ Falkirk 100% ‒ Fife 50% ‒ Glasgow City 50% (100% for older people) ‒ Highland 50% ‒ Inverclyde 25% ‒ Midlothian 70% ‒ Moray 100% ‒ North Ayrshire 40% ‒ North Lanarkshire 50% ‒ Orkney Islands 15% ‒ Perth & Kinross 100% ‒ Renfrewshire 85% ‒ Scottish Borders 24% ‒ Shetland Islands 30% ‒ South Ayrshire 25% ‒ South Lanarkshire 50% ‒ Stirling 75% ‒ West Dunbartonshire 50%
  • 22. Care Homes ‒ National legal framework for charging [National Assistance (Assessment of Resources Regulations) (Scot) 1992] ‒ Charging for residential accommodation guidance (CRAG) ‒ These are national rules – setting out how local authorities treat an individual’s income and capital (including heritable property) in financial assessments • Counted in full • Fully Disregarded • Partially Disregarded
  • 23. Care Home Charges ‒ Standard rates for public funding: • £587.00 with nursing care • £499.38 without nursing care ‒ Self funding rates • Between £650 & £800 on average ‒ Free personal and nursing care • £169 for personal care (people aged 65 +) • £77 for nursing care • £246 (combined total) ‒ Capital Limits : • Lower limit £16,000 • Upper limit £26,000
  • 24. Current Landscape ‒ Health and social care integration ‒ Self Directed Support ‒ Review of NHS continuing health care ‒ Residential Care Task force report ‒ Dilnot Report – UK Care and Support Bill ‒ Non-residential care charging guidance review ‒ Review of national charging for residential care charging guidance ‒ Welfare reforms – social security benefits
  • 25. Dilnot Report & Care and Support Bill (UK) ‒ £72k cap on life time care costs (Dilnot recommended £35k) ‒ People will be expected to pay around £12,000 a year towards their general living costs if they can afford it ‒ The State will be responsible for: • any further care costs once an individual reaches the £72,000 cap • financial help to people with their care and/or general living costs, if they have less than around £17,000 in assets, and insufficient income to cover care costs.
  • 26. The Future of Residential Care for Older People in Scotland (recommendations) ‒ Extra-care Housing ‒ Short-term Residential Intermediate Care (step up step down) ‒ Specialist Residential
  • 27. The Future of Residential Care for Older People in Scotland (recommendations) ‒ Accommodation, hotel, care, leisure and recreation costs should be separated. ‒ Financial modelling work to ascertain the cost effect of raising capital limits in Scotland ‒ Free Personal and Nursing Care contributions should be reviewed ‒ Financial modelling to establish the costs of implementing a national commitment to pay the Living Wage in the care sector.
  • 28. NHS Continuing Care ‒ NHS Continuing Healthcare is a package of health care that is arranged and fully funded by the NHS ‒ CEL 6 (2008) sets out assessment and eligibility criteria ‒ ISD Annual Census ‒ NHS Continuing Healthcare is currently under review
  • 29. Independent Review of NHS Continuing Healthcare ‒ Key recommendations • NHS CHC should be replaced with the term "Hospital Based Complex Clinical Care" and only provided in facilities wholly funded and managed by the NHS. • Three month multi disciplinary team assessment after admission to hospital (excluding delayed discharge), and ongoing review every three months. • Those currently receiving NHS continuing healthcare should not be financially disadvantaged.
  • 30. Alzheimer Scotland’s contribution Influencing improvement throughout the illness ‒Promoting earlier diagnosis ‒Improving Diagnosis (rates and experience) ‒Post Diagnostic Support guarantee – 5 Pillars ‒Integrated & coordinated community support – 8 Pillars ‒Advanced Dementia Alongside work on ‒Improvements in health care ‒Dementia friendly communities/ dementia friends
  • 31. Questions 1.What should people with dementia pay for, or not pay for, in an integrated health and social care system? 2.How should care and support be funded for people with dementia in Scotland? 3.Almost half of the current cost of care for dementia in Scotland is met by unpaid care – how can this gap be closed and carers better supported?
  • 32. Lunch
  • 33. Our Research Activity Maureen Thom, Information Manager
  • 34. Aiming for maximum impact • Scottish Dementia Research Consortium • Alzheimer Scotland Dementia Research Centre, University of Edinburgh • Alzheimer Scotland Centre for Policy and Practice, University of West of Scotland • Building relationships with Universities across Scotland, sponsoring doctoral training programmes and funding research projects
  • 35. Scottish Dementia Research Consortium • Bringing together Scottish based dementia researchers from all disciplines to promote collaboration and co-ordination • Represent Scottish research interests at UK level and Internationally • Communication with public about dementia research taking place in Scotland
  • 36. Alzheimer Scotland Dementia Research Centre • Commission and build a balanced portfolio of scientific and clinical research • Attract external dementia research funding • Brain Tissue Bank Website: www.alzscotdrc.ed.ac.uk
  • 37. Alzheimer Scotland Centre for Policy & Practice, University of West of Scotland Aims to advance dementia policy and practice through: •Education •Research and •Social enterprise Website: www.uws.ac.uk/research/research-institutes/health/alzheimer-scotland-
  • 38. Our additional research activity • Building relationships with universities and dementia researchers across Scotland • Sponsoring doctoral training programmes (PhDs) • Funding research projects
  • 39. Questions to Membership 1. What are your views on the approach outlined today? What comments would you like to make on our research activity? 2. The G8 Dementia Summit placed the priority for research on developing a cure or disease modifying treatment for dementia - what do you consider to be the priority/s for dementia research?
  • 40. Closing Remarks Henry Simmons, Chief Executive

Editor's Notes

  1. Experiences – so we can give examples and it can influence the campaign: Good examples (what would you have done differently) Where – public place, private, kitchen….. Who: Spouses/Partners; Friends; Children; Grand children: 2) Hundreds of messages everyday – TV, Newspapers, Radio, Billboards; Magazines; Mail Budget is a constraint
  2. Involve people with a diagnosis, carers, partner, family, friends, plus professionals and experts. Case studies. The campaign should seek to promote a positive message, emphasising what is possible following diagnosis, rather than highlighting the symptoms or ‘warning signs’ of dementia. This must, however, avoid trivialising the deleterious impact of diagnosis on individuals and families. One way this could be achieved is by emphasising the ability of individuals and families to recover or ‘bounce back’ (i.e. display resilience) following the trauma, disruption and upset post-diagnosis, through the support available through the post-diagnostic support guarantee. Humour may also help to connect the campaign to the cultural identities within Glasgow & Clyde but this would need to be approached with caution and consultation, in order to avoid the risk of trivializing dementia The campaign should be disseminated via a wide range of channels, including: local newspapers and websites, local TV & radio, websites, buses and leaflets. Care should be taken to ensure outputs from the campaign are accessible to people from BME (Black & Minority Ethnic) communities. This includes translation into key BME languages (e.g. Urdu, Hindi, Cantonese) and dissemination through local BME channels (e.g. Awaz FM) Campaigners should consider the potential of the word ‘dementia’ to generate fear in consumers. In this respect, campaigners need to tread a careful line between scaring-off consumers with the term, and potentially misleading consumers through the use of more ‘euphemistic' terminology. One way to address this may be to meet consumers' fears head on, by emphasising explicitly that having a diagnosis dementia doesn’t mean one is ‘deranged’ ‘mad’ or ‘demented’ (see our video for an example of this
  3. * Don’t want to overtly explore the barriers again but look for your thoughts, ideas, suggestions as to how we can get people to have those difficult conversations. * We know it’s going to be difficult but we believe that the benefits should outweigh the costs, outweigh the apprehension and lead to more control, better planning, better care etc.
  4. Lots of channels open for us to use BUT COST is a barrier and COMPETITING MESSAGES EMAIL 15,000 DiS 10,000 Facebook 6,500 Twitter ??? 8,000 Website 40,000 visits a month Services & DRCs 60+
  5. Flippant but effective!
  6. It’s all about talking – it’s a conversation. Radio is all about talking! It’s also surprising. Not expecting it! Explain how it would work Over 1-week. Slots everyday, with trailers. Case studies. Involving PWD; Partners; Carers; Family; Professionals Mention the 4-seconds campaign
  7. It’s all about talking – it’s a conversation. Radio is all about talking! It’s also surprising. Not expecting it! Explain how it would work Over 1-week. Slots everyday, with trailers. Case studies. Involving PWD; Partners; Carers; Family; Professionals Mention the 4-seconds campaign
  8. Lots of channels open for us to use BUT COST is a barrier and COMPETITING MESSAGES EMAIL 15,000 DiS 10,000 Facebook 6,500 Twitter ??? 8,000 Website 40,000 visits a month Services & DRCs 60+
  9. Experiences – so we can give examples and it can influence the campaign: Good examples (what would you have done differently) Where – public place, private, kitchen….. Who: Spouses/Partners; Friends; Children; Grand children: 2) Hundreds of messages everyday – TV, Newspapers, Radio, Billboards; Magazines; Mail Budget is a constraint