Evolution Of A PUA: Part 1 – The Ugly Shy
As you might know, I was not a natural with
women. I wasn’t even a natural with friends.
I had bad social skills, was generally shy and
introverted, and basically avoided social situations
like the plague.
Because i’ve gone from having nothing to being
successful with women and good socially in a
short space of time, I thought it might be valuable
to document the steps I took and my influences
along the way.
Back in 2003, I got out a notebook and wrote down
my problems and what steps i’d take to address
them. Back then, I hadn’t heard of game, so it was
just focused on my perceived weaknesses: Here’s
what it said:
• Shit fashion
• Bad social skills
• Not funny
• Quite voice
• Can’t hold eye contact
• Bad body language
• Can’t dance
• Petrified of public speaking
• Low Self-esteem
• CV lacks qualifications
• Live in a boring small city
Ouch. Okay, the good news is that they are all
taken care of. So what did I do?
1. I signed up to a TEFL course in Seville so that i’d
be in a foreign country and be forced to speak in
front of a group of people (the students), interact
with a bunch of strangers (the other trainees), and
also get a useful qualification and get to visit a
I committed the money and time and it paid off. I
was shaking and nervous in the first class. 6 hours
of teaching time later and I was almost smooth!
2. I started slowly building a wardrobe of nice
clothes and throwing out all the ill-fitting sporty
rubbish that i’d worn for the past 5 years. I found
the best brands for me, learnt about fit, materials,
Over 2 years I filled my wardrobe with great
clothes (mostly at discount prices) that i’d be
able to wear for years. I avoided obvious labels
like Burberry and got classic stuff like Zegna and
Ralph Lauren Purple Label. I now have a wardrobe
that will last me a long long time and rarely buy
Having done these two I already felt more
confident. But there was still a lot to learn.
3. For my general self-esteem, happiness, and
mental state, I read a lot of very useful books. I
read everything out there on, by, or about Milton
Erickson. I read all the old Bandler NLP books.
I read buddhist stuff. I read Robert Anton Wilson,
Tony Robbins, and Alan Watts. I stopped watching
TV so much, stopped reading and watching the
news, and spoke less to negative people.
This made me happier through toning down my
competitive side, reducing my need for material
possesions, curing me of envy, and generally
made me more content and happy. I came to
understand that I was in control of my mood and
happiness. Nowadays my mental state is solid and
I am calm and not easy to affect emotionally.
Evolution Of A PUA - Part 2 - From Ugly
To Model And More
So I was making progress, and that made me
happy. I was able to talk to people without going
red, I got admiring looks for my clothes, and I felt
good inside. I still had a lot to work on though.
4. Next came my physical looks. I was called ugly
at school and college.
So what steps did I take to fix my looks?
I’ve already mentioned the fashion. Next
came: eyebrows, I had hair in the middle
a monobrow, so I had them shaped. Hair: I
asked the best hairdresser I could find (www.
neilcurryhairdressing.com - thank you Neil!)
if I could have hair like Tom Cruise in The Last
Samura. He said “Yes” and 18 months later that’s
pretty much what I have.
(picture, Cambridge, 2001)
(picture, Cambridge, 2002)
(picture, Cambridge, 2006)
I modeled actors and now I can resemble Colin
Farrell, Tom Cruise, or Orlando Bloom. Women will
say I look like these poeple when i’m doing it. I
worked hard on body language to look more cool.
From being called ugly by average girls, I now get
asked every week “Are you a model?”.
5. One thing that held back my confidence was
my lack of qualifications. I was born in London
but lived in Cambridge, place that prizes academic
achievement. I signed up for lots of courses and
bulked up my CV with some impressive stuff like
being a Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA). Not at
all related to PU but it gave me confidence.
6. By studying NLP, psychology, and hypnosis, I
became more artful in my use of language and
used the techniques of influence to make people
like me. I was good on job interviews and started
to make connections and have some success
By this point, I was still useless with women, we
are in mid-2005 now. I’d only slept with one girl!
I started approaching sometimes in bars, very
rarely got numbers, and never progressed things
to a physical level.
Then in September 2005, I met Tyler Durden
in Starbucks, Leicester Sq, London, and it all
Evolution Of A PUA: Part 3 – Game Time
So I was sitting in Starbucks, Leicester Sq, London
one day in September 2005. I lived in Cambridge at
the time but used to come down to London every
10 days or so to hang out with my cousin.
We happened to be sitting next to what I would
later find out to be an RSD bootcamp. Tyler was
there, and about 7 students. I was listening in
trying to figure out what the hell was going on.
My best guess was speed-dating.
I asked Tyler (who was kind of overseeing things)
and he broke it all down to me. Told me to buy
The Game, etc. At the time, it was interesting, but
I couldn’t imagine any of these guys being good
Fast forward a couple of weeks, i’ve read the game
and now have the idea that there are these super-
hero PUA dudes that can have any woman they
want. With this as my new end-goal, I decide to
gobble up, packman-style, all the information I
can find on the subject.
Right after reading the game and a few other
things I take a trip to Singapore. On the trip I get
my first one night stand. She basically PU’d me
60%, but at least I didn’t make the mistakes of old.
She was hot-ish, I was attracted to her. I was
very proud of myself. I came back to England and
carried on with the theory. I used to watch DVD
programs on the PC whilst watching the stock
market and making the occasional trade (my job
at the time).
I kept a notebook of all the cool ideas. I’d listen to
audio products before sleeping, when cooking and
eating, cleaning, travelling, playing playstation,
etc. Between November 2005 and March 2006,
I must have gone through a thousand hours or
more of products.
Some of my favourite ones at the time were David
Deangelo’s audio series - Interviews with Dating
Gurus, his DVDs including Double Your Dating,
the Mystery Method ebook (but not so much the
DVDs), Swinggcat’s Real World Seduction audio,
and RSD/Tyler’s Surviving the Game of Dating.
During this time, I didn’t do much in terms of PU.
I came to London to visit my cousin and did the
occasional approach. The problem was that all
this theory was difficult to structure, I basically
had a collection of cool lines and fun things to say.
I had no idea how to link them all together.
I remember a turning point for me. I was in
Starbucks, mixed 3-set, I sprung into action using
a situational opener - “Can I look at your tube
map, I need to get to errrrr… Kentish Town!”They
helped me out, I transition into what they are
doing in London etc. I ask boring questions, but
then something happened, they said they were
I talked about how I trained to be an English
teacher, how I did it in Seville, and how people
come to learn English and then they live with
people from their own country. I was talking for
30 seconds, they were listening with interest, and
laughing a bit, I felt a buzz.
I’d never had 3 people watching me and listening
to me talk with interest before. I went red and
was sweating but it was a great result.Small talk
continued, then they said some tiny objection like
“we are meeting our friend soon”, so I made an
excuse to leave (I was looking for one I guess!).
Sat back down, they seemed to linger around
suggesting “please n-close us, please!” but I let
them go with a goodbye. This counted as my first
real approach. Before that, i’d talked to a girl on
the train and n-closed but it was not really a cold
approach because she came and sat next to me.
I’d n-closed a couple of girls in bars over the
previous two years (literally less than 5!). It made
me grow in confidence.Around this time I had
the dream of being the best PUA in London and
training people, and even having a Project London.
I talked about this with my cousin. I made the
plan to move to London in March 2006.
On 24th March 2006, I moved into my place in
Leicester Sq, London. My goals: to become great
with women, to meet cool people and develop a
social circle, to have a blast!Cambridge allowed
me to find myself, study hard, improve, now it was
time to put it into action.
Evolution Of A PUA: Part 4 – Make Or
I wanted to move to London for years. I was never
happy living in Cambridge. Ithought it was too
small, I thought the people were unfriendly and
boring, and I didn’t have the kind of social life that
Why did I wait so long? I found out the real
answer, and thismight be the same thing that
holds you back in many areas of your life, it was
a HUGE realisation: I was afraid that if I moved
to London and it was a failure, i’d be back in
Cambridge AND I would no longer have thedream
of something better to hold onto.
So at it’s core, it was fear of failure. Look at any
bigsteps that you have avoided taking and maybe
it is the same reason. But I finally did do it..
I basically didn’t know anyone when I moved
down. My flatmates were cool, and we got on, but
they had no social cirlce so I didn’t get to meet
people that way. What happened was thatI found
some London PUAs (from The London Seduction
Society/LSS) and hooked up with them.
I went out on some group “sarges” and met them
and gave them the kind of respect i’d give Mystery
himself. We went to some bars, but I quickly
foundout that most of these guys could talk a
good talk, look alpha, have an alpha-handshake
and a cool walk, but they didn’t seem to be able to
open, hold, and close a set.
I hadto ratchet down my expectations a little bit.
Over the next few weeks, I met some more of
theseguys. Most of them I didn’t really want
to hang out with, but I did meet two - Eugene
andConor, who were “cool guys” and I tried to go
out with these guys to clubs as much as possible.
I was going out 4 nights a week. At this point,
i’d been to a club less than 30 times, and was
completely uncomfortable in the environment. So
these nights would normally entail us opening 20
or so sets, not many would hold.
I was overcoming my AA, and a couple of times I
did get into sets that hooked and was ableto have
a nice conversation using my pre-existing skills in
one-on-one conversations that comefrom having
the introvert qualities of being a good listener and
I had a regular night out in Covent Garden with
my wing Conor where I started to get some good
results. We’d run some good wing game with each
of us isolating a chick and i’d try to connect and
get a number close.
When you are winging, it is pretty easy not to get
blown out, because when those moments where
the conversation dips happen, the girl looks at her
friend, she is in set and happy so she re-engages.
Holding on your own requires a lot more skill.
I was able to get a few number closes. They didn’t
convert and I had no idea to kino-escalate to a
k-close in the club.I have to say that by now I was
pretty confident. The girls I was approaching were
often hot and they did compliment me on my
looks. It was new and it was good.
The next big realisation happened about 3 weeks
into my London adventure. I was in a Sohu club
with Conor and the person I took over my room
from and Conor approached a Swedish 2-set.
I didn’t go and wing straight away because I was
having a go at an Australian chick. It didn’t go too
far, so I decided to go and wing him. It was an 18
year old Swedish chick. Pretty cute. I was there for
AN HOUR talking to her, then I told her to move
up and sat down next to her, carried on talking.
I was getting no touching from her, and didn’t
know what the hell to do. My one night stand in
Singapore only happened because she touched
my leg first and I just matched her kino-escalation
and then lead with the kiss.Anyhow, I said to
myself “fuck it” and put my arm around her and
went for the kiss.
Lo-and-behold it worked, she was into it. Now
I know I probably could have done it after
30 seconds, but the point was that it shifted
something in my mind - you don’t need to ask if it
is okay to kiss.
Conor left early because his chick didn’t pan out.
When they left, looking back, it would have been
an easy f-close with my girl (other one was happy
to leave her in my care!) and even a pretty simple
But I didn’t because I was probably buzzing from
the k-close and didn’t imagine it was possible.I
was now happy in London, I had friends and I felt
like I was in control of things a little more. I had a
lot of confidence and was on a high because I now
was able to attract and seduce women.
Evolution Of A PUA: Part 5 – Loser To PUA
I learnt the basic structure of a pickup from
6 months of theory and a few weeks in field.
Admittedly I spent way too long geeking out on
the material. I learnt way more from going out
and doing stuff. I spent the next month going
out and refining my approach. We used a lot of
canned material - should I die my hair blonde,
best friends test, palmistry etc. It worked to hook
My first fclose came one night in a Covent Garden
club. My friend identified an HB, I sat next to her,
just chatted, in terms of lines used, maybe some
C&F and I did bust out one of my own speed
seduction patterns when I had her isolated (I
haven’t used this stuff since ust because it hasn’t
I tried some light kino - touching her leg and arm
and she reciprocated. I went for the kiss after
about 5 minutes. She was tall, blonde, thin,blue
eyes. Now she’d be average, but at the time, she
was very hot.
I lead her around the club -”lets go get a drink, lets
dance, let’s sit down”. We got quite hot and heavy
and then I just got up and said “let’s go”, she
started walking with me but asked “where” and I
said “somewhere else” and walked her out of the
club to my house. Got the wine out and smoothly
escalated with no resistance.
I’ll leave out the details! Met her for a date
another day and the attraction had vanished,
I didn’t like that she smoked, I didn’t like her
accent, I didn’t like her shoes or the way she
I felt like Jerry Seinfeld for dumping the girl for
silly reasons but I didn’t call her again.
Over the next month I got plenty of k-closes and a
couple more f-closes. I did about 4 salsa classes. I
didn’t PU any girls in the class because they were
generally not up to standard but Idid devise my
“salsa escalation” where I go and ask the girl if she
can salsa and then salsa my way into a k-close.
I got a Serbian chick in 1-minute with this and she
was a virgin, 7 hours of LMR before she slept with
me and then she was my GF for about a month.6
foot tall, toned & tanned body, blonde, blue eyes.
During that time I think I only k-closed one other
girl and that was when I trained with Brent (from
various Double Your Dating video series’ and as
seen on Cliff’s List). He came over in May and I
decided that either i’d learn loads or i’d realise
that I could do it too. I paid $1000 + expenses for
an evening from 7pm to 2am.
He was good looking, confident and cool. The
training wasn’t very good because:He didn’t demo
anything cool.He couldn’t hold the rest of a 3 set
when I engaged one of the girls (they dragged
her away).He only said I should talk louder and
escalate faster. That was his only advice.
Very nice guy though and maybe my level was
already just damn high. Anyhow, I pulled a
nice HB that night. This was the first time I was
disappointed with the skills of a well-known guru.
There were many more to come in the next few
months! My attitude now when I meet famous
PUAs is “Hey, if they are great i’ll learn something
and if they aren’t, it makes me more confident”.
Over the next few months I improved my game,
gained more confidence, had more hot girls,
and met various influential charatcers, most
importantly - Steve Jabba AKA Vertex and Anthony
P. We went out a lot and gamed together.
In June I had started Puatraining.com and had
been doing 1-on-1s. I was a skilled teacher, could
clearly communicate things, and was able to
analyse the person’s strengths and weaknesses
very quicly and give them practical advice.
Through teaching, I learned by stuff way more
tightly and was forced to game. I learnt how to
control my state instead of only being able to
game when I felt like it.
In July I went on holiday for 2 months with
Steve and we went out 40 out of 44 nights in 11
countries. During this holiday my kino, non-verbal
pickup, dance-floor game, etc all got a huge boost.
Steve is a legend and few people have seen his
skills when he is at the top of his game. I saw him
do things a couple fo times on holiday that gave
me the shivers! Next level game.
Fast forward to today. I am going to parties
with celebrities to learn how to game in
those environments, i’m working with the
guys here to further refine the system, i’m
travelling to different countries to test my game
How do I pick up chicks now? I have an
unbreakable routine stack that can get me
laid every day of the week, one that uses an
unbreakable opener, NLP, calculated responses,
built in emotional spikes, push-pull, DHVs, my SS
patterns. BUT I DON’T USE IT! I want to be able to
I don’t wantto know what i’m going to say next.
I like to test my intelligence and exercise my
mentalmuscles. I want to make a better self
instead of making a character that I can step into
and act out.
My indirect game usually involves a situational
opener, cocky funny, rapport and deep rapport,
kino-escalation, close. Pretty simple right?My
Direct game is: force IOI, kino opener, afc fluff
with sexual undertones, quick close. Of course,
I might use routines again at some point in the
Right now, I just want to round-out my game
some more and learn from guys that have
something unique to offer. Now I have confidence
and an energy that projects from that confidence.
I used routines when I first started and many
high-level guys still use them. It’s a personal
choice. For a newbie, routines are the fastest way
to get improvement and that’s why we teach both
on our courses: routines, canned openers.
A structure for any pickup.The skills that you
need to be a natural.My ex-students all game
differently, they are not robotic, and some have
gone the natural route and some the routine
route. All of them seem to improve markedly for
Success?Email me for my HB pics! I meet a girl
of high quality once every 3 weeks. Can k-close
any time I go out. Can f-close multiple times a
week. The only things that hold me back are:Busy
with the business.Not enough hot girls in London
clubs!Sex drive is not so high that I need 7 girls a
week.I get more out of a loving relationship than
lots of casual sex.
(Picture, London, 2007)
Gambler’s Philosophy Of Happiness:
In the past, before mass communication and
globalisation, a person’s frame of reference was
his peer group and the people he came into
personal contact with. Today, our peer group is
still our primary frame of reference, but now there
are also people we know of and know about, like
celebrities. We come to know about these people
and they can exert just as strong an influence
on us as our peer group does. First the world is
brought into our lives through the internet and
TV: amounting to 1385 messages a day. Because
our peer group is subjected to the same onslaught,
we would are ‘infected’ through them, even if we
could avoid it all.
Global travel means people from different cultures
live in one place. In the 1900s example, the man
in the village who had a full-time manual labour
job, had a healthy family, and was married to a
woman who he thought could be a good carer for
him and their family had everything he thought
life had to offer. He didn’t expect that he could
ever be the factory owner, because that man
was educated and had inherited wealth, unlike
himself. He didn’t expect that he could be married
to a beautiful or upper class woman, because he
was working class and not so financially secure.
He didn’t expect that he could live in a mansion,
because there was no frame of reference of a
normal working class person who had achieved
In modern times, 90% of people are educated
up to a point where they consider themselves
literate. Class lines have been blurred and wealth
and class no longer correlate to the same extent.
Because our basic needs of health, food, clothing,
and shelter are almost guaranteed, we take them
for granted and they are not enough to make us
happy because our frame of reference does not
include contact with people who don’t have these
basic needs taken care of. Wealth and success are
no longer confined to inherited wealth, genius, or
super hard work. Every person knows of a story of
someone getting rich very quickly and easily by a
method that seems in reach of the average person.
We are presented with an infinite amount of
choice, which is some ways is good, and in others,
isn’t. When people were born, took on the trade
of their parents, and stayed in that profession
until they died, and considered themselves to
have had a good life if their children were married
and healthy, the lack of choice meant constant
contentment. People today would find it difficult
to be content with a life like that, because they
are aware of all the choices that now are possible.
Choices make people unsure, they are unhappy
with their job because they know that there are
other jobs that might be better for them. If you
live in the city, you know that you could live in the
countryside and vice versa.
Media. Advertising. Politics – people focussing on
wealth and other distractions suits politicians.
Cheap media set the agenda. Getting rich with
no talent is a new phenomenon. Media mainly
shows positive side of shallow materialism
instead of chastising it and promoting intelligence
and wisdom. There has been a degeneration of
language and values. Easy money is only available
to the top percentile but the whole population
aspires to it. There has been a role reversal in the
gender stakes with the feminisation of men and
masculinisation of women. Relationships are over
complicated with games and what you should/not
do dictating events.Casual sex is promoted and
means people in settled relationships cheat more
and are not as easily satisfied with what they
When you buy something is a big motivating
factor the expected response you will get from
other people? Do you imagine what they will
say when they see your new suit, electronics,
jewellery? Was the need to buy this item driven
internally or was it by external influence?
Gambler’s Philosophy Of Happiness:
Your peers are your peers because they legitimise
your lifestyle, the same is true for drug addicts or
criminals. Whatever you do and think, you can
always find similar people to legitimise it. It is
common to say “but person X is even worse”. This
mindset does not serve you, because it is a way of
avoiding progressive change. Most people are not
surrounded by positive influences. We generally
do not have the grounding of a close extended
family. This means that the people we use for
support do not always genuinely wish us well.
Maybe if we do something they are scared to do,
like make a big change, they will discourage us
because it would make them feel bad if you could
do it. Sure, they will support you, but probably
only until you start doing better than them, and
only while you continue to legitimise their life
style. Try going from a party animal, recreational
drug user, with no hobbies; to a serious, hard
working, interesting person and still keep the
When we do not have the peer group that is
positive about what we want to do, and can
show us better ways to live through example, we
need to make changes. It is possible to surround
yourself with models for success through books,
audio courses, and media. Knowing the stories
of Edison, Da Vinci, Tesla, etc will be inspirational.
This inspiration is what will allow you to break
out past your perceived limits. Once you know
what is possible, you will want more for yourself.
Generally people stagnate and don’t progress as
their peer groups will too. Try to surround yourself
with models for success. After you spend an hour
with someone, ask “do I feel more positive for
spending that hour with that person”, in 75% of
cases, the answer will be no.
Gambler’s Philosophy Of Happiness:
I have an even keel philosophy, I believe that the
ebbs and flows of mood are not a necessity. You
can be happy one day, and then the next day, with
nothing new happening, you can be unhappy.
Most people believe that it is like a sine wave, and
that they are held hostage to their emotions. “Oh
I am having a bad day”. There are two steps that
will allow you to conquer 90% of these negative
emotions that are thought of as ebbs and flows.
The first is to become aware of the base cause,
and the second is to be able to disassociate from
the emotion and understand and control it.
To ‘become’, you can perform the following
simple task that you will find very powerful. Take
a sheet of paper and write down all the things
you are unhappy with about yourself (not your
possessions, your self) in pencil:
I am ugly.
I am fat.
I am single.
I am lonely.
I am poor.
Notice how you feel when you write these
statements, you are now at a low ebb, just as
you might be any day when you “are having a
bad day”. Now do the opposite and write all the
positive things on a different sheet of paper.
I am a good mother
I am funny.
I am intelligent.
I am outgoing and friendly.
I am popular, and people like to be around me.
People will have more trouble with the second list
in general, because our culture does not promote
bragging. Try to find as many things as you can
though. Every person will be able to list at least
10 positive things about themselves. Read the
positive list again. Notice how you immediately
feel better, as if you are at a high ebb, and feel like
you would if you were “having a good day”. How
you feel from day to day is simply a matter of this
changing focus. On a negative day, your focus is
on the things in the negative list, on a positive day,
your focus is on the things on the positive list.
Your next goal is to restrict the things that you are
unhappy about to things that you cannot change.
On my personal list, the things that I cannot
change all relate to physical appearance. Every
person has issues with their physical appearance,
no matter how attractive you might think they
are. With physical appearance, it is possible
to make incremental improvements. Fix your
fashion sense, whiten your teeth, get a tan, get in
better shape, lose weight, have a great haircut. All
these will make incremental improvements that
will make you happier. You will NEVER be 100%
satisfied with your appearance so you need to
Gambler’s Philosophy Of Happiness:
Let’s start a new list that reframes any negative
things in a positive way – instead of saying “I’m
stupid and don’t know anything” say “I want to
learn interesting things and be more educated”.
Also include other things that didn’t make you
unhappy but that you would like to do. Write
down your goals in this way. I did this for the first
time 3 years ago and have done it every 18 months
since then. The list included things like:
I want to be funnier.
I want to learn psychology.
I want to be more outgoing and comfortable in
I want to understand relationships better.
I want to have a better voice.
I want to learn about and improve my body
I want to improve my posture.
Rules: do not use negative contructions, i.e. do not
say – I am not stupid, say I am clever.
The next step is to make a plan of how you can
achieve each of these aims. For me, the answers
were: read book - comedy writing secrets,
watch and listen to a lot of comedy; read NLP
& psychology books, sign up for courses; Do
TEFL course in Seville for 5 weeks, teaching and
working with strangers forcing social interaction
and public speaking each day – additional
achievement – improved English grammar skills;
start with book – Emotional Intelligence, and
study the area; read book – Set your voice free,
and sign up to voice workshop; study high status
and cool role models on film & television and try
to see what they do and copy it in the mirror!
Read books and watch videos on body language;
Take a lesson in Alexander technique.
Normally when people talk about what they want,
they start with I want to have, not I want to do.
It’s moot to say “that’s just the way I am”
Gambler’s Philosophy Of Happiness:
Most people use distractions from themselves- TV,
drinking, socialising, internet, talking on phone. If
everyone was in a darkened room with no sound
and thought about themselves and their life, how
many would be happy?
Most people say I want to have, not I want to do.
Collecting material goods so you have them in the
“bank”, at least I have my stamps. Externalised
showings of confidence include clothes, cars,
lifestyle. These are very weak compared to
internal displays of confidence that can be
steadfast in any situation without the need for
flashy clothes and a Ferrari.
Take two people in the same situation except one
that is happy will have a different focus to one
that is not. Once you understand what is going on
inside, you can disassociate and take control. It is
the fist step. We are not slaves to our emotions:
we are in control of them. We do not need to be
“feeling down today” and “feeling great” the next
with no changes. Negative messages – advertising,
bad people- can always be found and those
who are successful are always at risk of being
undermined by jealous rivals. Complete arrogance
inside leads to much better results. To balance
all the negativity, surround yourself with positive
role models that become like friends, affirmations,
subliminal stuff, music, film. Strive to seek out the
Anthony P: Being in the moment –
why it is so difficult
Being in the moment is in many respects the
opposite process to the normal functioning of the
brain, which appears to be the chunking together
of moments into familiar scenes and patterns to
be matched with familiar responses and solutions.
This saves the brain a lot of work, so its natural
mechanism is to pull me out of the moment
and back into my head. Being in my head – or
thinking – relies on the reasonable assumption
that nothing particularly fatal is likely to happen
over a period of several moments and that the
brain can use that time to put its feet up and
generate a response to a chunk of moments rather
than create each moment from first principles.
Being in the moment, in each and every moment,
is therefore something like an act of will where
the will persuades the brain that each moment
is actually fatal; this requires me to be intensely
interested in what is going on outside my head,
and to live each moment as if it were my last.
Top players often report on how they see game
situations open up as if they were in the matrix;
sports players talk about how time stands still
and suddenly they see the playing area as a
space without time. These players are able to see
being in the moment as an act of will, attention
as something we really do pay (for), and being
interested in the world outside our head as a
simple discipline which can be developed and
strengthened. Many of the techniques of pick-up
purport to teach a man how to be interesting –
telling stories and jokes, performing magic tricks,
having exciting hobbies, but the argument which
follows here is that we are never more interesting
than when we are interested in the other person.
Steve: What are girls all about?
Consider girls. What are girls all about?
Hot girls are human beings. Same as me and you.
They eat food and they shit it out. They urinate.
They get bad breath.
They have insecurites, same as me and you.
Maybe worse…We live in a society that BREEDS
them. Hev you ever opened a really hot girl
and been AMAZED at how she reacts to you?
Friendly, open, even a little insecure? maybe a LOT
When you’re dealing with girls, no matter what
you’re level, what kind of girl you are used to, bear
all of the above in mind. Remember it.
When they shit test you, or when they go quiet,
or when they look at you in a particlar way,
remember that they are living inside their own
head. If they are quiet, DONT think does she like
me, is she offended, why is she quiet, why is she
smiling? Is she laughing at me?
Sit still, quiet your revving mind. Don’t think
about what she is thinking….Often you will be
wrong. I promise you. And worse : if you imagine
these things you will MAKE HER THINK THEM.
She will sense it, girls are AMAZINGLY perceptive
about this kind of stuff. So Don’t worry about what
she is thinking, don’t allow yourself to indulge
in negative and debilitating thought loops. Don’t
imagine or consider that she is thinking badly of
you..Really really try to just live in the moment.
Take in the environment, notice what is going
on around you. Smile at her. If she is nervous or
skittish, think to yourself, I AM A MAN goddamit, I
WILL NOT let myself think badly of myself. She is
a girl, and she is faced with her own pressures.
Really try not to put her on a pedastal.. I tell you
with full truth that even the hottest girls have all
sorts of funny shit flying around in their head.
So many people are putting on an act. Don’t do
this. Be yourself, your best self. Ask the question
of yourself - do I like this girl? Why do I like her?
Look at her face when she is talking, look at her
body. Do you want her? Then just try and imagine,
convincingly that YOU CAN HAVE HER. You can.
You can have her, girls want to be taken. They long
for a man that will take her and ravish her.
Keep that one simple truth in mind and all
other stuff becomes irrelevant…Just be strong in
yourself, like a rock and nothing else matters…
Forget everything else.
Reflex’s fast escalation bar-game
Here is one basic method I use to go very quickly
from meeting an HB in a high-energy bar to going
straight to kino, rapport and quite often a k-close
at super-fast speed. I don’t always use routines for
bar game – opinion openers, ‘wanted or needed’,
‘how soon is too soon’ etc. Don’t get me wrong,
they are powerful, I’ve seen them work and they
are good for students because they give you a set
speech to make, thereby removing the anxiety of
‘not knowing what to say’. But if you’re feeling
confident try this 4-step approach.
1. Force the IOI. An HB walks past you at the bar:
force an IOI. A cheeky grin, a point, Beckster’s
classic hide-behind-the-hand manoeuvre,
2. Get kino. If she smiles or in any way gives an IOI
from step 1 then simply raise your class to clink,
or put your hand up for the high five. Do with a
BIG SMILE! If she clinks your glass or returns the
high five then IT’S ON. Move quickly to no 3.
3. Introduction. This is the crucial part. Offer a
HANDSHAKE with a BIG SWEEPING GESTURE,
and say “Hi, I’m !!” I sometimes don’t go for small
talk, asking opinions etc, I just introduce myself.
You see, if you’ve got an IOI and a glass clink that
means she is ‘open’ and so introducing yourself
will not feel ‘odd’ to her. The critical thing with
step 3 is CONFIDENDCE. You must speak loudly,
confidently and act as if you will not tolerate
Offering a handshake with a big arm movement
is almost impossible to ignore. Try it with people
you meet in other environments – the office,
or wherever. It puts enormous pressure on the
person to offer their hand in return because
ignoring it will leave the person feeling as if
they’ve been terribly rude! It’s a very British
thing that’s ingrained into all of us. Salesmen in
shopping centres or the street use this technique
to get members of the public to interact with
them, and I see them do it all the time.
But confidence is the key. If you meekly offer a
limp handshake while stammering your name,
it is easy for her to shrug you off and walk on. If
you stand tall (no side approaches this time, be
direct and dominant) and loudly and confidently
offer your name and hand she will return the
shake and tell you her name back. It works. No
matter what else, she will be impressed by your
4. Humour. After she’s taken your hand and said
her name say “Nice to meet you . I was worried,
for a minute I thought you were the bouncer”. This
should get a laugh, it relieves some of the tension
and will relax her (and you).
You could use your own bit of humour, just make
one up. It doesn’t have to be
absolutely hilarious, but needs to relax the
situation. “Thanks for offering, but I’ll get my own
drink”, or whatever you want.
So that’s it. IOI-kino-introduction-humour. Those
4 steps. Where you go from there is up to you,
but I’ve closed very quickly from this. The point
is you’re compressing many of the elements of a
pick-up into less than 10 seconds. You’ve broken
the ice, got her name, had some kino and shown
you’re confident and humourous. Obviously with
most girls you’ll need to go into rapport at some
stage but a lot of the work has already been done.
The good thing is you can tell from her reaction to
step 1 (the forced IOI) whether she is open. If she
is, then it’s on. Have fun with this one!
Reflex’s situational openers : Queues
For queues, in any environment. It could be for a
bar, cloakroom, cash machine, cafe or checkout at
Tescos. If there is an HB in the queue in front of
you as you join here are a few options:
1. “Is this the queue for the good looking people??!
D’you mind if I join it?!!!”
I use this one all the time and it NEVER fails to
get a smirk, smile, laugh or verbal response from
a woman, no matter how grumpy, sour-faced or
closed they might look. It’s hard not to smile when
someone says it. It’s also very good for when
there’s a group of girls, it makes them feel good
(isn’t that what everyone wants?) It’s also paying
them a subtle compliment. But the key here is
HOW you say it. It’s hard to describe in writing but
you should say it playfully, with a slight smirk,
and a glint in your eye.
You can combine it with a subtle finger-point
and head-tilt, as if you’re sharing a conspiracy
theory with someone. If you’re feeling bold you
can continue the joke by asking them if they could
please keep all those people over there away from
our queue, it’s just for us you know!
2. For a very very long queue you’ve just joined,
one that will take ages –ask the girl if they’re
providing deck chairs for us while we wait?!
3. For long queues: “I don’t know what’s going on
here, but it looks like it must be interesting so I
thought I’d join”.
4. Simply say “Who’s playing?” Say with faux
seriousness. A girl with a sense of humour will get
Reflex: Gaming on the tube - part 1
2 million people a day use the tube. That’s a lot
of HBs, whichever way you look at it. I’ve started
gaming on the tube in earnest in the last few
months and have started getting numbers and
dates. I’ve put together some guidelines that I’ve
found useful; I say ‘guidelines’ rather than ‘rules’
because you need to be flexible when you do pick-
1st guideline: ignore what everyone says about
the underground – that everyone’s miserable, that
you must never talk or make eye contact with
anyone, etc. Bollocks! If no other guy does that,
well, great, that means less competition for you!
Contrast that with a nightclub when every chump
is hitting on the girls. Plus HBs won’t be expecting
an approach on their journey home!
2nd guideline: ignore other passengers.
Sometimes when I’m gaming I get a little
audience listening in over the tops of their
newspapers. Blank them out and keep going. If
you show your nervousness you will communicate
that to the girl. Conversely if you show you’re
comfortable with the situation then the girl will
share your confidence. Remember, people get on
and off tubes all the time and your eavesdroppers
will always get bored lose interest – after all, they
have their lives to get on with, and other things to
3rd guideline: don’t linger and let a girl see you
checking her out before you approach. Always try
and make it look SPONTANEOUS. Especially on
platforms. Through trial and error I’ve found that’s
the key. That’s the value of the ‘3-second’ rule. As
soon as she sees you, you MUST talk.
4th guideline: if you want to game on the
platform, check on the electronic board to see
when the next tube is due. If it’s less than 2 or 3
minutes you might want to wait until you both get
on the tube itself. The reason, I’ve found, is this.
If you chat for 30 seconds and then a train comes
roaring in to the station and there’s lots of hustle
and bustle as everyone gets on and off, then in
the confusion the girl’s ‘state’ will be broken,
you lose what little rapport you’ve established
and it’s hard to restart again on the train. Also,
after such a brief conversation she may not be
comfortable with you sitting next to/opposite her.
If by contrast the next train is due in 5 minutes
or more, then ok – that should be enough time to
establish some rapport on the platform, maybe
share a joke etc. Then when the train comes and
there’s a break in the conversation she’ll feel
comfortable continuing your chat and comfortable
sitting near you. You can more easily pick up
where you left off. Get it?
Ok, that’s the guidelines done. Now what do
you actually say?! Sorry to keep you in suspense
but…tune in next week for part 2 of my post for
Reflex’s Tube Game - part 2
Game is game. It doesn’t really matter where you
do it, on the tube or anywhere else. In part 1 I
discussed timing and attitude. The guidelines are
the same: you really do have to do virtually all of
the talking for the first 30 seconds or so; make
your approach look spontaneous (don’t linger);
speak with confidence; hold eye contact; plow
through if she is unresponsive; feed off any verbal
hooks you get.
So let’s get into what to say. Here are some
“Is this the train for Hammersmith?”Yes/no/etc
“Are you sure?!! I hope so. Cos when I was a kid
and people used to ask me that I’d deliberately
tell them the wrong thing to screw them up. I was
basically a little shit. You’re not like that are you?!”
‘Do you know how long the train takes to reach x?’
Better than ‘have you been waiting long’ which
has pick-up written all over it…
I find this works well at initiating chat. You
may get a one-word answer – yes or no – so the
important thing is to plow with talk about trains:
how awful they are, how you have to get to such-
Other platform openers: “Don’t jump, it’s not
worth it!” (If she’s close to the platform edge) “Oh
my God, did you see that mouse?! I saw it just
now…” (You don’t have to actually see one,
obviously. But this ALWAYS gets a response, girls
find it impossible to ignore, so it’s very solid.)
“Did you hear that busker?! He’s pretty good. I
used to be one myself.” Really?! “No. But thanks
for believing me.” This usually gets a laugh.
“I think we’re standing in the best/worst place to
get a seat”. This is good because when the train
comes the two of you can put your prediction to
the test and therefore have something natural to
talk about, even if she hasn’t said much about it
on the platform.
If there is a seat next to her, and she’s noticed
you’re walking towards it :“Oh, were you saving
this seat for me?!”If you get a laugh, start talking.
By the way, this works for seats anywhere.
If she has an ipod: “Hey, cool ipod, I bet you pirate
your music, right? Me too, what do you pirate?”
This has to be spontaneous. Don’t worry, they
ALWAYS take their earphones out if they can’t
Eye-Coding: This is a good one for packed tubes
(or trains or buses). If something happens, like
someone won’t move down, or is annoying other
passengers by talking too loudly on their phone
or causing a problem by having too many bags
– then you can sort of look at her, and raise your
eyes to heaven as if to say : “For God’s sake! Some
people!” If you get a reciprocal eye-code back from
her, as if she’s saying “Yeah, I know!” then you’re
good to go. Start talking. If she has funky clothes,
bag, or apparel:
“You look like you like shopping!” Plow with
chat about shopping: “I bet you’re one of these
girls who pushes people out of the way in
sales!” Making assumptions is one of the keys to
getting over awkward silences and keeping the
I have gamed girls successfully by looking for
situational stuff to open with - I’ve asked girls if
they want to swap papers (or even books!) that
they’re reading; told them not to use that vending
machine because it will take their money; asked if
they have something with just celebrity photos in
it for me to read because I’m sick of reading books
with words…the key with all these is delivery with
cheekiness and a grin.
And don’t forget forcing IOIs like we show you
on the bootcamps! If you’re eagle-eyed you will
see girls checking you out! Finally : don’t be
embarrassed to ask for a number or a date - if you
are nervous you can wait until you are just about
to get off anyway, or wait till you both get off. And
ignore the other passengers who may eavesdrop
on you. They will get off soon anyway!
Introduction to Dirty Cardenas
Hi I am Dirty Cardenas and I am an evil PUA, I will
bum your mother.
I am a natural and have pretty much always been
good with girls. I came into the community a year
ago with the intention of meeting some absolute
heroes and going out and having threesomes with
super models every week. Unfortunately I found
that the community in London is comprised
mostly of key board jockeys who spend the
majority of the time bickering on internet forums
and theorising as to the best way to get a woman
as opposed to going out and actually f*cking some
By the grace of God I some how managed to meet
Vertex (Steve Jabba) and Beckster. Later on Vertex
introduced me to Gambler and so here I am. I am
one of the bootcamp instructors and specialise in
Inner Game, Dominance, Sexual Confidence and
I hope the stories I share help you achieve
whatever it is you hope to achieve as a PUA.
Cardenas: Owning the frame
Last Sunday I went on a date with a girl that I’d
actually dropped a while back. She is pretty hot
and a model. But about 2 months ago she annoyed
me so I dumped her. Last week guess what - she
sent me a text out of the blue saying hi, it’s been a
long time, how are you? I could tell what she was
angling for so I thought I’d meet her.
On the date I didn’t make any ‘move’ on her
early on. I just kept my distance and talked
politely. I didn’t say “Oh it’s so nice to see you
again” or any such thing. After all, I’d dumped her
because she had shown a jealous streak and had
annoyed me. She said I was different and that
I was hard to work out. We eventually went on
to a nightclub and I finally k-closed her etc. But
I didn’t try and get her back to mine, I told her I
was going and left early. She’s not used to being
dumped, I think, and after dropping her I made
sure I didn’t contact her for a few months at all,
so she had to get in touch with me if she wanted
to. I had moved on and she had faded from my
mind. Now she’s bought into my frame and I have
more control. I’m still considering what sort of
relationship, if any, I want from her.
Another story: This weekend I’m going away for
a few days with another girl. She used to be my
girlfriend way back last year, but I ended it for
similar reasons to the girl above. Until I’d dumped
her she had been in complete control of me
- she’d left me dangling as if I were on a piece of
string, constantly changing her mind about me,
blowing hot and cold, telling me when I could
see her and deciding when I could visit her. She
was not averse to flirting with other men either
(she is tall, blonde and very attractive). It left me
in the supplicating role in the relationship and
demoralised me completely, as I had totally fallen
Then I discovered ‘Game’, the PU community, and
entered the world that you too have now entered.
I knew I’d allowed her to set the frame and
dominate me. So when she continued to mess me
around I gave her an ultimatum to start treating
me properly - and when she didn’t change I
dumped her. She went pretty hysterical when I
gave her the news but I refused to buckle or relent.
Quite a few months of no contact went by and
I moved on - then she got back in touch, asking
to see me again, saying she’d missed me etc. I’d
moved on from being besotted and no longer felt
that way, but was ok with seeing her again. Now
it’s me that is in control. I decide when to see her,
where, and for how long. Same principle: always
own the frame.
There are lessons in all of this:
1. Don’t go chasing like a desperado. Know when
to draw the line. Make her wait if necessary.
Always have things you can fall back on - career,
interests, hobbies, mates, whatever.
2. If you know for sure that a girl is simply using
you and playing you: tell her point blank that you
won’t stand for it. If she continues, BREAK IT OFF.
This is vital. Never be talked out of it. Otherwise
you will end up like so many suckers out there,
trapped in a relationship you feel is controlled
by a woman who knows you will always come
crawling back . And that, my friend, is a very very
bad place to be. All your self-respect will dribble
away pitifully. The more attractive the girl, the You
must know some men who have fallen into that,
as do I. I’m not suggesting you just dump a girl at
the slightest thing that annoys you or that you
don’t try to work things out; just don’t let yourself
be taken for a ride (no, not THAT sort of ride!)
Remember, if the girl wants and values you SHE
will re-initiate things. If she doesn’t then she’s
not worth your precious time. Find someone else.
Don’t worry, you will. That way you will keep your
self-respect. And if she does come back, YOU and
not her, are in control.
Beckster: Game Science Formula
These are new techniques which a small team of
us have been developing and using over the past 2
Went out with Lord o Lust or LOL for short, just for
a few drinks to chat to him about DeepGame, LOL
told me some great stories which we will develop
into spiked stories. We decide to go to a salsa
place, I open a 2 set HB7.5Slovak and HB7Polish,
can speak a few sentence in both languages make
them laugh, I anchor it in case I want to talk to
them again, but not really my type. Beckon over a
well suited girl HB8suit with my finger, she walks
over and imitates me with a finger motion.
I ask her if she is a secret agent, because of her
suit and that she was surveying the area.
Turns out she is the manager’s top hired gun, this
should be fun. Run some stuff on her, neg her,
etc. Some people come in so we move to the cash
register so she can charge them admission. I ask
her if she lets in boys that she fancies for free, she
said its happened once or twice, I say to her “great
I’m in free all the time then”, she smiles and nods.
I run my famous fish routine on her as it’s in her
palm more customers come in but she doesn’t put
it down she admits them, taking cash and giving
hand stamps with one hand, still holding up my
fish as if it were real. I neg her about it then tell
her fortune, told her I’m going to a better club in
Chelsea and she’ll be lucky to see me again. Left
it at that as its better not to pull her as she can
be more useful letting me in for free. I told her as
I let that I’ve been stealing glasses from her bar
for 5 years and that if she wants them back she’ll
have to drive over and collect them, she laughed
and said “I know, I let you because I like your eyes”
(she said this in a jokey way). I said “yeah, and I
catch you checking out my ass all the time!” and
walk out without a good bye.
Lord o Lust says his goodbyes and I head to
Chelsea, not much live but I see one bar and in the
window a lone girl so I enter and as I walk in I give
her a wink then up to the bar order a drink, she is
still watching me. I walk over and -
Me:Do you know what……. oh sorry are you with
you boyfriend as I point to the pint glass near her
(you all know what I doing in that one sentence
right? Interest and analysing the situation.
HB8Scandi: NO No that’s my flat mates.
Turns out that I lived in her country for a while
and I saw in this bar watching her country place
on TV so I thought I would incorporate this in to
a mind reading trick. So I said give me your hand
blah blah blah.
HB8Scandi: Wow that’s amazing
Me: That’s not all, sometimes like 1 in a thousand
I can have this instantaneous connection with
someone and something strange will happen.
HB8Scandi: Really what?
Me: Well I now can speak in your language.
HB8Scandi: No way!
Me: Yes way.
Talk to her in her language for 10mins about her
remote town (which I have been to) tell her about
the shops and station there, she laps it up.
Her male house mate comes back he is Russian
and doesn’t like me being there, try’s to AMOG
me, he doesn’t even break the ice, every time he
try’s I speak to her in her language he get pissed
of asks us to stop it. I play good cop bad cop with
him and he chills out a bit. Plus he knows he’s
beat as she keeps saying “he’s just jealous of you
because he’s in love with me” and “you must go
to the gym a lot you have big muscles” while she
squeezed them. No I wrestle bears like your flat
mate probably does right Ivon?
I use some new GSF stuff on her then she agrees
to come home with me, but I tell her another time
(as I have an early date Thursday and need some
rest as I’ve been on it for a week solid.
Not once did they ask why I was by myself think
hard why that is…
I will arrange to meet her at a later date when I’m
Beckster: 3 Way Kissing Technique
First you must build up the comfort with wit and
humour- be cocky too- but in a way that makes
Kino both HB’s a lot and build it up, give them
both intimate time with you when one goes to the
toilet/bar/use phone, start being a bit more serious
like when seducing them, then do the other when
she’s free. Then do it to each of them again, but
in front of each other so it seems to the other HB
that it’s the first time your turning on the charm
with her mate and how easy you do it will attract
her then again, do the other one too.
The attraction will be high also the competition
between women will also be strong, now you can
say something like this:
(Use this old one first)
Me: “Who kisses better, men or women?”
HB’s: “Women blah blah blah”
Me: “So you have kissed a women before?”
HB’s: (Always seem to say) “Yes, blah blah blah”
Me: “There’s this test to find out which are better
kissers, but you wouldn’t be interested as your
friends, even though everyone at my Uni parties
use to test the theory and it worked soooo well?
…… Are you both open minded?”
HB’s: “Yes” (Now you have just got them to say
“Yes” to doing the game, but it way you have
asked them, they have said yes to everything you
ask in the sentence) now to confirm it before they
realise, quickly say before they speak again.
Me: “I knew you two would be cool and open
minded, some people can be soo boring and miss
out on fun and great opportunities, you both grab
on for life right?”
HB’s: “Yes” (they normally giggle or something,
remember you don’t have to say this word for
Me: “OK, are you ready?”
HB’s: “Yes” (Now I have made them say yes 3
times, the yes ladder is so powerful).
Me: “Now this may seem weird to hear, but to
feel how it works afterwards you will be amazed.
Do you like being amazed by new and exciting
things?” (REMEMBER PAUSES).
HB’s: “Yes” (one more yes for luck lol, you can
make them say yes them all day if you like and
anchor it too).
Me: “OK, all hold hands in a circle (you can be
sitting or standing), now we must connect our
lips together much like a kiss and the currents in
our bodies will be attracted to the most strongest
current (you can add this bit to if you want but
don’t kill the moment “did you know each human
body gives off enough electricity to power a light
Now girls shut your eyes and as we kiss on 3
(seconds) hold it there for 5 seconds try to feel
who is giving off more power, if it’s the same we
all our compatible.”
Go through the motions and turn it into a snog. If
this doesn’t work either blame them for trying to
snog you or say, I wanna try that again.
If you feel one was kissing you more, then you’ll
be able to kiss her as soon as you alone with her,
tell her you felt it more with her, did she with you,
she should say yes as she was kissing you more
then the other HB.
Also you can get 3somes from this, I have and I
haven’t even experiment much with it.
Conquering Approach Anxiety (AA):
1. Frame it differently. If you frame an approach
as a do or die situation in which you are desperate
for a close, this is high pressure. Frame it like this:
You are being the fun sociable guy who will talk
to people and have fun, and if you happen to be in
an interaction with an HB (Hot Babe) that is going
well, the close will be natural.
2. Take baby steps: If you are going in to close, you
have a lot more to think about and you will have
more AA. Instead, in the early days, just aim to
open as much as possible. Don’t over think, just
say hi to strangers or cheers them, or wave, or
ask a simple question then leave. When you are
comfortable opening, you can work on progressing
things and actually start opening to close.
3. Reduce the pressure. Going up to a girl and
telling her “I want you, and nothing is going to
stop me getting you” would be pretty cool if it
worked but is going to give you huge approach
anxiety because there is too much pressure. Find
simple reasons to start conversations to start
with. Opinion openers are low-pressure and a
much easier way to start a conversation.
4. Don’t be too fussy. If you only approach SHBs
(Super Hot Babes), it will take you years to get
over your approach anxiety simply because there
aren’t many about. Lower your standards for
starting interactions until you can find 20 sets a
night to open. You don’t need to close them, only
open! You will still conquer your AA and then you
can raise your standards again.
It’s called analysis paralysis, once you think about
it longer then 3 seconds (hence the 3 second rule
was invented) your inner voice takes over and you
first have to have a debate with your inner voice
to see if you will or will not approach.
You may win or lose this battle in your head but
even if you win your inner voice has spread doubt
in your influenced mind, so you will be going in
not the full ticket!
You can battle this inner voice with your own
voice and also using an anchor, I like to squeeze
my fist and say in my head or out loud (for
special) occasions) “MAN UP”.
To me it means be the man, I’m a man, it’s a
man’s right, lets get breeding. Its natural to breed,
it’s the most powerful instinct so why fight it? why
let that little voice that has been the bane of your
life? Don’t let it mess with you anymore, because
you know in your heart that every time you have
stood up to your (bad) inner voice you have felt
powerful and great, so why won’t you stand up to
him, if you stand up to him you can stand up to
The more you let that voice control you the more
it will, until it’s so powerful that pretty much
nothing but hypnosis can cure it!!! If you fight it
every day, hour, minute, do crazy things, wave at
people, stick your tongue out, wink and smile little
things to start with until the voice dies out to a
Beckster: Kino Is King
So we touch to feel someone or to make someone
We use it to push our point, to exaggerate or put
emphasis on our emotions.
We when get (to) excited or sad.
We use kino to say things without using words, to
express what we can’t say without words also.
So it’s not just as easy as saying touch her here,
there and the other oooppss.
And it’s not the same as sling your arm around
everyone and shouting hey buddy.
But a blue print can be used to help you along
your way and you know what, you will never get
better or good at it unless you practice.
So some quick tips:
Touch gently with the back of your hands and do
not linger, pull away slowly other times quickly.
Don’t look where you are touching her.
Use the back of your hands even better the finger
Push away from her as you do this, it’s none
threatening and it confuses her mind if you
like her or not, sort of push pull but with body
Use your heels or toes to pivot away while you
kino then pull yourself in again.
Use indirect kino
Use misdirection kino, “ is that David Beckham
over there” as you point in at some random
person and put your arm around her or on the
small of her back.
Touch non sexual erogenous zone behind the ear
for example, please ROOT why you are doing this
otherwise she will think you’re a perv. So think of
a routine to allow you, also let me know how you
Touch her shoes not many people do that, root
this with a routine to, you can really pull her
leg on to your lap and inspect them, this works
wonders it also conveys a lot of balls doing this
and how different you are to other people.
Don’t be scared to take a HB’s hand just root again
why you are doing so.
Leading is fine once enough kino has be installed,
you will even be able to look her it the eyes and
stick your arm out for her to link on to then
parade her around the place.
If it’s a 2set touch one but look at the other. This is
a long and advanced one for another time. Along
with boob-kino, yes I said boob-kino.
I will leave you with a little game to practice
which I call 3 touches in a minute.
You must touch her 3 times on each side of her
body in a minute, but you must keep swapping
each side with each touch. Hard to explain I have
a rough quickly knocked up u-tube video of it to
help you get an idea..
Up up and Kino’s away……… Kino is King
Megadirt: The Underestimated Benefits
Of Going Out
Bit of background info to start you off. My
sudonym is Megadirt, or MD if you wish. I was the
type of guy who would end up falling into lucky
relationships with 7s or 8s and they would last
a long time….I say long, 6 months at best. The
repercussions of the break-up however lasted
a LONG time, sometimes 2 years of nothing, no
socialising even with people I already knew.
I discovered the community when I was 16 (5
years ago) but when I was 16, as most 16 year olds
do, I did everything half-assed, I fell into another
relationship and just forgot about it. Earlier this
summer my AFC friend got dumped just before
taking his CB4 girlfriend to NewYork.
So I went with him instead, and at a Playboy
book signing picked up a book by my, by then,
second only to Douglas Adams, favourite author
Neil Strauss. It all came flooding back. I looked at
my friend and his CB4 ex-gf (who came anyway)
and all the acronyms and sudonyms patterns,
everything I’d learned all of a sudden seemed to
make more sense. For fear of being chastised I left
the book down and vowed to get it once I got back
to familiar bookshops.
So I read it tried and tested a few wings and have
whittled it down to 3 very good eager to learn
guys. I went to see Gambler and by the end of
the day I was approaching like a motherfucker.
First week back out I email close and F-closed a
fortnight later, got a half assed relationship outve
it. Not enough to make me leave the game.
We went out once a week did one approach
maybe, but would spend the rest of the week
watching DVDs, reading E-books, making up
scenarios. There got to a point where I realised
that I could get past any womans LMR, AMOG the
drunkest of guys and we were all really pleased
with ourselves…..but we couldn’t approach
anyone. Every week was the same, maybe open
one or two sets, and then laugh it up when they
went wrong, high five if they went right then my
relationship ended, I watched the loverboy tribute
to sarging video. It ended on a Thursday. I went
out that night, and everynight until tonight. 9
Days. 9 Nights out.
I figured out since last week Ive approached
about 150 people. Early in the week the sets
wouldnt hook that easily, or would go dry but we
opened loads of them, got rid of the AA which
was the point. Middle of the week wed hold sets
for ages, theyd get slightly bitchy after a while
but the interactions where fun. We have had to
incorporate negs, C&F, false takeaways..all those
little decorations for the stages and as of last
These two really drunk guys where diving right
into the seduction stage hanging off girls and
making them feel REALLY uncomfortable. I walked
up, alpha handshake, “hey man hows it going I
really love your tie, whered you get it, its really
cool I had one just like it, where you guys out for
tonight, just out drinknig on the pull? Thats really
cool, youll go really far, youve a great sense of
tact…” basically I just kept talking as I walked him
and his friend over to the other side of the bar.
I then opened the two set Id just saved, fired an
opener at them, DHVd took a while, their shields
where up a bit cos of the guys, but they invited us
out the following day, one of the girls was really
shy and submissive, the other quite dominant and
playful. TBH, closing shouldve been no problem,
but I just didnt, thats the next stage I have to get
to, thats for next week.
Another set I opened later that day had someone
in it I already recognised, but she didnt recognise
me, so I opened them and told her what her name
was and she got a bit scared, I guessed her friends
birthday to “proove” I was psychic.
Then isolated her friend, teased her, c&f all was
going well, pushed for the number close she
“couldnt remember her number”. The interaction
went quite well, but I dont think I displayed
enough personality and it was quite near the end
of the night but thats another step up, besides Ill
see her again, if not, 7 billion people in the world
ive still most of them to meet.
Ive been at the game for 3 months, and I
find that Ive had to extreme progress points,
Gamblers workshop, and the past 9 days. The
commonalities? Approach everything. High five
people without drinks, clink glasses, say cheers or
happy christmas, work the room. Ive internalised
more in the past week than I have in the apst 3
months just because of this, most of which was
yesterday and the previous day. Game the world,
old lady serving you in a shop wearing an odd
Talk about it. Girl walks into you in the street?
Bust her on it. Guy wearing your favourite bands
t-shirt? Talk to him about them. Just talk to
everyone, if you tease a guy working in a pizza
shop, or a girl working in a bookstore, they
probably aren’t going to accuse you of gaming
Megadirt: Fear of success
I’ve had many sticking points in my three and
a half months of gaming. Approach anxiety
because I was new to the game. Being able to talk
in sets because I was so nervous. Keeping high
energy because I was thinking negative thoughts.
Creating attraction because I didnt understand
about kino etc. Building comfort because I talked
about myself a bit too much and didnt really care
about them. These are all pretty generic, nothing
to be ashamed of, they all make sense, easy to
get past. But recently Ive hit an odd one. I hope
other people get this and I’m not just mental. I
cant number close. Not because she isn’t giving
me enough IOI’s or is being bitchy, but because its
going so well. I look at the girl who is hotter than
anyone Ive ever spoken to before, she is feeling
me up, rubbing against me, holding my hand from
time to time and shes looking at me with those
DDB eyes, this is the point when my that evil little
man who lives in my head steps in and suggests
“Look at her shes so hot, if you ask for her
number, her friend will think you’re weird, and
shes probably just putting all this on anyway” Ill
give you guys a better idea by being more specific.
Today me and WING went out to a bar called Stiff
Kitten, it’s one of our regular establishments. We
went in said hey to the bouncers and headed
on down the steps and approached the bar, as
I ordered my Vodka and red bull, I took a quick
peripheral look around, guy sets and couples all
the way. I started talking to WING, I noticed a
two set a tall brunette HB7, and leading her down
the steps, a half-Italian HB8.5 long legs, eyes you
could lose yourself in, a hypnotic walk and most
importantly a life with a me-shaped hole in it. I
looked around, there was a set near them… a guy
set, I briefly considered pawning them but just
grew some balls and went in to the two set with
no idea of what I was gonna say.
”Hey guys, where’s there thats good to go on a
Saturday… that isn’t here or the Limelight?” ”
Erm…..There’s the beach club…but they’ve got a
really strict dress code, sometimes they wont let
you in….” I cut her off here and looked offended
“What are you trying to say?” in a cocky funny
way, while indicating how well I was dressed. She
laughed and continued “No no no, I mean if you
go in wearing a mini-skirt sometimes they….”
“Wow wow wow, what about my personality
makes you think I’m gonna try and go in there
in a mini skirt?” She laughed and lightly Kino’d
me, I let her finish waht she was trying to say,
thanked her Kino’d the obstacle lightly and went
back to WING. He asked me if there was anywhere
around for food that wasn’t takeaway crap. So I
asked the set, “Hey guys, you were so much help
the last time Im gonna let you consult me on my
next problem, were can we get something to eat
around here that isnt greasy and burger king-y.”
We fluffed for a bit, and then WING took care of
the obstacle. We started talking she started to
give me a bit of kino and she asked me what I did
for work, we talked about her being half Itialian,
and where abouts she was from, Sicily it turns out,
and she asked how often I am in the Stiff Kitten.
I wasn’t sure if the truth was a good idea but I
said “About 4 times a week cos I love meeting new
people, and it keeps work very seperate from my
social life.” I also pointed out I wasnt an alcoholic
and didnt drink everytime I was there. Her next
question knocked me off guard “Have you read the
game?” I replied with a cool, “yeah it’s cool” then
she kept trying to make sure that I had constantly
asking me questions about it, as if it was a DHV
to have read it and she HAD to make sure. She
then was really interested in my path from being
a nervos little boy to my current situation. “I
can’t imagine you being shy.” “Yeah this time 2
weeks ago my hair was long frizzy and I probably
wouldnt be tlaking to you, this time 3 months ago
I definately wouldn’t have been talknig to you,
and this time 6 months ago I probably wouldnt
even have been out at the bar.” “Have you a photo
of you with your hair longer, you look really sexy
now.” She was kinoing me so much at this point
it was getting ridiculous, I was gonna have to
close her. We fluffed for a while, it came time for
both of us to go to our next destinations, my head
kept saying “We should hang out sometime…..
we should hang out sometime….we should hang
out sometime…” She invited me to go with her
to the bar she was going to, I didnt go because I
was so skint I couldnt afford it, we both left about
the same time, I didnt close her, I couldve real
easily even when we left she looked back at us
twice I couldve called her over and done it there
but didn’t. I really don’t feel comfortable doing it,
Im gonna have to get over that soon, Ill keep you
posted as I get better.
Gambler: The Importance Of Morals
When Dealing With Women
So you want the skill of a PUA which basically
means you can have choice with women? You can
have multiple long term relationships, you can
have all the one-night stands you want, or you
can find a good quality girl and stick with her.
The problem for me is when guys don’t consider
the woman’s wants whatsoever. Maybe they hate
women for all the times they’ve been rejected and
want to get their own back. This is messed up.
Luckily most of our customers are good quality
guys who love women and just want more control
over their love lives.
With great power comes great responsibility as
Spiderman says. It is possible (and not even too
difficult) to make sure you never break a girl’
You just need to follow a few simple rules:
-If you just want sex, you don’t need a
conversation to set these rules, you just need to
keep the intera
-Now, by being honest and having morals, you
MIGHT sleep with less women, but that love for
women and the desire not to hurt them will make
you more attractive and will earn you trust when
you really want it.
-Keep the interaction light, not mislead her, and
not connect with her on a deep level. You know
what she wants in a boyfriend, don’t be it!
-When you are dating, be honest. If you tell
her you are seeing other women or don’t want
something too serious, she won’t be investing
emotion in something that isn’t real.
-You are a PUA, you can find another girl easily,
she might be heat-broken for months if you split
up with her. Better to let the girl dump you. Just
be needy and clingy and unattractive, you don’t
need to start being a bastard. This isn’t about
status, it’s about not being nasty when you don’t
Gambler: Seduction Tips – The Pick-Up
Don’t listen to the rules!
You can’t buy drinks for girls. Don’t ask their
name. Don’t give a compliment. Don’t pay
attention to the one you fancy!
Ignore all that rubbish. These rules should not
be taken as law. If you are a millionaire, she is
broke, and you are both thirsty from talking for
30 minutes, it’s fine to buy her a drink! Just avoid
girls that ONLY want a drink, and don’t think of it
as winning her over if you buy her a drink.
Ask her name, its fine, getting a name is powerful,
do it early. If you wait for her, chances are she will
forget to ask, it’s an IOI if she asks, but most of the
time they are caught up in the conversation and
Give compliments. But do it right! Do it when
you really feel it. Don’t be generic with the
compliment, and don’t say it weakly. Deliver
it deadpan. Compliments about character or
something that she has done with herself that she
wasn’t born with are always better.
You only need to play hard to get if she is, if
she is open to talking to you initially, don’t be
distant, engage with her before she thinks you are
interested in her ugly friend and decides to leave
the two of you together!
Take any rule with a pinch of salt. Find out what
works for you. I break other guys’ rules every time
I go out and still get tons of quality girls.
Gambler’s PUA Method
People think I’m a natural, but I’m not, I didn’t
kiss a girl until 21! People call me good looking,
thanks, but I was called ugly until my early
twenties too. I have worked on every aspect of my
character, and I’ve done everything possible to
engineer my looks. I didn’t know anything about
this stuff until late 2005. At that time, I’d only slept
with 2 girls!
When I got into Game, one of the first things I
decided was that I didn’t want to limit myself in
any way. I wanted to be able to do day game, night
game, dance floor, basically anytime I saw a girl
that I wanted to speak to, I wanted to be able to
Naturally I’m not high energy, I was a shy,
introvert, who wasn’t very sociable. I’ve learnt
how to turn on my extrovert skills, but usually
I’d prefer to not be too high energy. I can do it
however, I can hold a 6 set on my own for 20
minutes, and do crazy flashy things. I guess these
are skills that naturals don’t have, so it is a mark
of a PUA. Students like it, I have a rule on 1-on-
1s that I’ll open any set they tell me to, so I had
to develop this skill. I’ve got a super high energy
game, and it’s there when I need it. After doing
500+ hours of training, I have state control, I can
switch it on and off anytime.
More likely, if I see a big set with a girl I want in it,
I’ll go directly to her, when Steve/Vertex says he’s
never done a mixed set and things like this, he
has, he just did it in this way.
I game in different ways when I’m training, so I’ll
talk about how I game when I’m doing things for
myself. I’ve got two types of styles:
1. Very direct and fast escalation.
2. Slow burning girlfriend close.
In the first style, I’ll attract the girl’s attention
from a distance, force an IOI (verbally or non-
verbally), go in in a sexual state and escalate
quickly. This is how I got a 20 minute street to
bed with a genuine HB9 (on the Vertex & Gambler
scale, I only SAW three 9s in 2006), and it’s how I
got 2 k-closes at Movida on Wednesday without
even talking to the girls first. I use a lot of non-
verbal stuff, I can even have a little conversation
non-verbally to warm the girls up.
This style of mine took a while to develop,
you need complete confidence and authority
otherwise it just won’t work. The example is
beckoning a girl to come over to you, if you do it
with doubt, she won’t come. If there is no doubt in
your mind that the girl will come over to you, then
it will work.
This style is good for fast escalation in clubs,
ONSs, etc. The girl doesn’t know you, so if you
just want something casual, do this. If you want
something more, you need to connect with her,
and that’s where I employ my second method.
In the second style, I’ll be semi-indirect to start.
By semi-indirect I mean I’m not putting on a show
for the girl or using time-constraints etc, but I
am just coming across like a sociable person that
wants to chat to them. I aim to hook by being
more funny and interesting than what they were
doing and then get into rapport. I do this crazy
deep connection stuff. I focus on digging out real
emotions. Emotions are attached to memories,
passions, future dreams, etc. I elicit and connect
on this. This is where the girls say “I trust you”,
“I feel like I’ve known you for 3 months”, and it
melts them pretty well. So I’ve got this connection,
at some point I switch to a sexual character and
this brings in the sexual tension. She knows I
know that I can kiss her, and the tension builds.
It’s up to me when I do it.
I’ve had girls I’ve brought back to my house,
haven’t kissed them at all so far, and they still are
naked in bed within 10 minutes. When they know
you can kiss them but wait, the tension builds,
and it’s not that awkward type because they know
you are doing it on purpose rather than just being
So I use this to get my girlfriend close. The GF-
close is basically when they would move in with
me, commit to a relationship, whatever, just after
a few hours. Another facet of this style is my
complete honesty, I will tell them my job, if I have
any other girls, if I don’t like something about
them, etc. What this does is it makes my emotion
for them and the compliments I give much more
powerful because they are genuine.
I love women. I’m honest with them. I don’t try
and control them. I don’t exploit them.
Here’s my take on social proof game: I use it.
Sometimes. 2 times recently I’ve done “The
Takeover” where we will just take over a section
of the club and create a bubble around us, any girl
in that bubble will be a warm approach. I’ll work
the room, be ultra high energy, dance around like
a nutter, do all that stuff. Last bootcamp, on the
Sunday night, there were more than 10 close-able
girls, and when I left, some ran after me to make
me take their number. I got solid closes from only
a couple of minutes.
What I don’t do is talk to people who I don’t want
to, when I don’t feel like it. Just like I can’t bring
myself to use a routine or canned lines in a PU,
I can’t be fake with people who I’m just trying
to get something from. It works fine for me,
I’ve spent no time schmoozing but still get film
premieres, VIP parties, etc. In my opinion, social
circle game is much easier so it’s worth trying to
get HBs in your social circle. The owner of a model
agency needs no game. Can you say that game
is getting the girls whether it comes from a cold
approach, or whether it comes from you making
friends with her boss?
Sure you can, I just morally object to working
people like that.
My morals also extend to demos for students,
and how I treat my girls. I’ve never broken a girl’s
heart! I manage relationships very very well. I
don’t n-close a girl I wouldn’t call just to demo it. I
don’t play with them or take things too far. I don’t
use an unwitting pivot and then leave her to go off
with an HB. This isn’t Zan level stuff of spending
an hour with a fat girl just to make her feel better.
I just will do what is in my power to not hurt girls.
If I got blown out, I’d never do anything rude in
On bootcamps, we teach the elements of social
proof game, since they apply to making people
like you, making a good impression, etc.
Gambler: Strip Club Game
Not many guys that come to bootcamps have
considered stripper game. A lot of people view
strippers as little better than prostitutes. The
thing is that in London, a stripper can earn £1000
a night in a top venue. Guys are not allowed to
touch, the girls are well looked after, and the
crowd is much better than you would find in an
This means that a hot girl can make a lot more
from stripping than she could for most other
things. She can work for a few months and save
up enough money to put towards a house or
So, the upshot is that the strip club is not full
of skanky bitches, it’s filled with generally good
quality girls. They could be students, they could
have a dream of being a singer or model, or yes,
they could be a skanky bitch. The point is, the girls
will be no worse than the average that you find in
a night club in character, and will be a LOT better
Not all the girls are hot in a strip club, there are
some fat ones, there are some with ugly faces. But
the average standard is much higher, and chances
are that out of 70 girls, 2 or 3 will be HB8s (on our
The other misconception is that you are going to
need to buy loads of dances. You don’t. We spend
very little money at the strip club (1 drink). We get
in for free with vouchers, buy our drink, and sit
there for a few hours and game the girls.
Favourite strip clubs in London for gaming the
girls are Stringfellows in Wardour St and Upper
St Martin’s Lane (next to my house!), Spearmint
Rhino, and Secrets in Chancery Lane or Euston.
Gambler: Looking back and forward:
If I look back at what I’ve achieved in terms of
increasing my skill with women, building the
business, and working on my character, I’m very
satisfied. If I had just learned game and never
thought about training, I would have quit learning
about 9 months ago. At that point, I could go out
a few times a week and get numbers to line up
dates for the rest of the week.
I kept on trying to improve because I wanted to
be the best that I could so that I would offer the
best service to customers. I wasn’t improving for
myself, I went beyond that. So now I date fashion
models and strippers, the kind of girls that are
considered the hardest to pick up. I don’t really
know what to work on next, but I do know that if
I can take another PU holiday in a place with hot
women, I’ll come back with a whole bunch of new
refinements to my game and teaching method.
I think the next step could be further research
on state control. I want to be able to generate
the state at will that women find irresistible. It is
easy to get into this state if you’ve got a bunch of
k-closes around a club, but I’d like to be able to
generate it any time.
Something I need to do is bring back some
balance. I work almost exclusively on PUA stuff, I
have meant to do lots of classes and courses but
just haven’t had the time. I’ve started going to the
gym for the first time in my life which is good for
my energy levels and fitness but haven’t done the
other things I’ve meant to.
I want to do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for martial arts &
fitness. I want to do some yoga/pilates classes
because I am very inflexible. I want to learn
Portuguese (for when I go to Brazil), and Russian. I
have loads of books I want to read.
On an even more personal note, I’ve met lots of
good friends and girls through moving to London
and dedicating my time to PUA. These are people
that will always be part of my life now, and it’s
amazing to see what big events small decisions
have lead to. People that have read my story might
imagine that I’m not at all an introvert anymore,
but I still am. I still prefer small groups, 1on1
conversations, and need time to myself. I just
have the extravert skills when necessary.
Gambler: Eye Contact, Rapport &
I was on a 1on1 the other day and had some
deeper realisations on eye contact. We were in
set together, I was winging and observing my
student whilst he was in set. I noticed that I was
able to get my girl comfortable and in rapport
very quickly but his conversation seemed to be a
bit stop-start. A lot of guys also tell me that they
run out of things to say, etc. I used to have this
problem, but maybe I wasn’t completely conscious
of all the elements I have now that make this not
He was breaking eye contact to think of what to
say next. When you break eye contact, the other
person’s attention can wander. They will look
around the room, things will catch their eye, the
eye wanders and then the mind wanders. It will
break them out of the moment. It’s very difficult
to do this if someone is holding eye contact with
you, you might look away but you will feel drawn
I knew this already, but what I realised was the
timing of the eye contact break. If you break it
when there is a break in the conversation (end
of subject, thinking of what to say next), then it
increases the strength of the break and creates
the stop-start kind of conversation. If you break
eye contact when they are in flow or you are in
flow, they still have the words there to hold their
attention so it is more acceptable and doesn’t
create that break. I advocate constant eye contact,
but I notice that I break it when I’m winging,
talking to guys, or generally talking to people that
I don’t want to be attracted to me. But I break it
when there is not a conversational break, this
means that I only lose the attraction but not the
Another factor was that he nodded and moved
his head a lot when the girl was speaking.
Subconsciously, this told her that she should
finish what she is saying quickly. We all know
what it is like when someone is nodding and
saying “aha, yeah, aha”, it’s annoying and it
communicates that they have something to say.
He wasn’t verbally doing this, but he was nodding
and moving his head quickly which both makes
it look like he wasn’t listening well and made her
think he wanted to jump in with something to say.
If you can keep eye contact and match their vocal
tone and be relaxed in your body language, you
can create an environment where they forget
about the whole room and everything going on
for a few minutes, it’s almost hypnotic. I think
this is what I do, and this is why my conversation
flows. We are focused completely on each other,
I’m not in my head wondering what to say, and
they aren’t looking around getting distracted. It is
Of course, eye contact is also essential for the
Gambler: 93% Of Gaming Is Non-Verbal
This is a recent realisation of mine. It goes against
conventional thought, and it goes against all the
guys that constantly ask “what should I open
In a night club, you can k-close without saying
a word. Sexual tension is generated almost
completely through non-verbal communication.
Of course, day-game has a much larger verbal
element, and it is kind of stupid that most of the
pickup material is verbally heavy but focused on
clubs. “Who lies more” doesn’t work in the street
or supermarket. Clubs are noisy, the girls have
lower attention spans, and in big cities there are
often a large number of foreign girls.
Assuming the basic rule that number closes are
for the day-time and physical closes are for the
night game (because one is a sexually charged
environment with alcohol and the other isn’t)
most of how night game is taught should focus on
non-verbal communication. There is a shortage of
day-game material. My non-verbal game includes
forcing IOIs, sexual tension generation, sexual
state projection, and conveying attractive qualities
(sexual confidence, relaxed, indifferent, non-
Gambler: Fast Closes And Text Game,
Gaming The Lazy Way
When I first started gaming, I opened 20 sets or
so a night, partly to get lots of practice and partly
because the sets weren’t lasting that long. Then I
got good, and only opened girls that I wanted.
For the past 6 months, i’ve been going for solid
closes with very targeted girls. I’d go to the club
and usually only open one girl, and they’d be the
ones that I stay with for the rest of the night.
Because of the amount of time we are together,
it’s pretty much guaranteed that they’d want to
see me again. I called this “the girlfriend close”.
Recently I’ve been gaming with a different style,
this is similar to what Beckster has been doing for
I’ll go to a club and get 5 or more numbers of the
hottest girls. I might only be in set with them for a
short time. Normally all we have is attraction.
I’ll get the number and then I’ll send them the
same series of text messages which is designed to
get them back to my house. From Wednesday I’ve
got 3 dates arranged, and from Thursday another
2. The girls are hot, some models, all meet my
criteria of looking good without make-up, bening
thin, and having other attractive qualities outside
their looks. For my first time trying this style it
went well, but I think with some refinements I
could line up dates for the whole week from just
one night out.
Of course, one constraint on this is the quality
of the girls, and luckily now I’ve found the best
places in London for hot girls so I can guarantee
that I’m going to be attracted to quite a few of
them vs none of them in the usual Leicester
Natural Game vs Routine-based,
I have never directly commented on this
arguement - is it better to develop a script and go
out and use it to pull women, or is it better to try
and be natural?
On our bootcamps, we take the view that it is
easier to get started and build confidence if you
have some material to fall back on, and that is
why we teach some.
Personally I used canned material and routines to
begin with and it took a few months to completely
leave them behind.
Assuming someone is a PUA or MPUA, why would
they still use routines? Here are my problems with
routine based game:
1. The woman is being attracted to a fake you, do
you want someone to be attrracted, like, or love
you for who you are or not?
2. Men that have choice and skills with women do
not need to lie, cheat, steal, manipulate, or trick a
woman into bed. Fake DHV stories, openers, kiss-
close techniques, etc are all fakery that substitute
putting yourself on the line.
3. Do we really want a girl that would fall for all
this shit? I know it works on a lot of girls, but it
puts me off a girl when she falls for it!
4. There is a chance I could end up in a
relationship with a girl I use a routine stack on,
could I live with myself knowing that I might not
have got her if I didn’t use it? Can I look at her
every day knowing she fell for “who lies more?”
Do I want a girl that any routine robot might have
been able to get?
5. This is the biggest of all. When you use a routine
stack time and time again. you can’t calibrate
to how much you like the girl. Whether you just
want to sleep with her or whether you really
really like her, you use the same shit. So what
happens? Girls that you don’t like too much
feel a connection with you because you ran all
this emotional stuff on them and you are going
to break a lot of hearts. Does someone who is
great with women need to do this? Shouldn’t he
be better and more moral than the average guy.
Normally it is desperation that causes a guy to
lie and use tricks (and even spike girls drinks), so
why do these so-called PUAs still do it?
6. Are you developing yourself and making
yourself into a more attractive man if you are
working so much on your outer game, and
specifically the script you use? Doesn’t that make
you a weirdo?
Of course, this stuff all has it’s place and i’m glad
I had some openers and stuff when I first started
but the goal of us all should be to leave it all
behind as soon as possible.
Steve: Sexual Escalation - Gaming For
Sex After Short Interactions
I wanted to write this post after thinking about
the 10 step guide to natural game.
I’ve seen posts / spoken to guys about their view
on game and have noticed that there tends to be
a ubiquitous view that the “process” should be
followed, dogmatically, religiously, at all times.
Either MM, SS or whatever.
Pulled a HB 8.5 and are attracting well? Better
lather some rapport on there sonny jim, otherwise
you in fo a whole heap o flaking.
In a group situation? Better go in a take care of the
CB’s first, and fo sho don’t game the target direct,
cos she’ll blow you out and kick you to the kerb,
I’m speaking from my own personal experience
on this matter, so what I wanted to talk about
was the notion of having to have all this rapport
/ comfort in order to ensure the HB will meet you
again after the first encounter. In my view, it’s not
necessary, at least not to the degree that a lot of
guys seem to think. Attraction and fascination will
do just fine.
NOTE : Obviously it’s preferable to have some kind
of connection, however I am posting this because I
think it’s helpful in situations where :
(i) There isn’t enough fucking time for rapport
i.e train station, tube, etc etc.(ii) You’re in an
environment where there are lots of HB’s and you
don’t want to spend hours with her talking shite.
(iii) You get the point.
Here is an example which illustrates the point,
with follow up:
I met HB 8.5 tall redhead at Cheltenham train
station last Friday, I thought I would game her for
a laugh as I haven’t been doing too much recently.
Me : Hey how long does x take to get to London,
it doesn’t say on the boardHB 8.5 tall redhead :
Er about 2 hours I thinkMe : Wow you’re really
expressive with your hand gestures, what are you
a gangster or something? You Italian?
(Fake gangster accent a la Robert De Niro, with
exaggerated hand gestures)
Ehhh, forget abaaaat it, so where you goin eh?
Hot damn..HB 8.5 tall redhead (laughing): I’m
going to Swindon Me : Whatchou goin there for,
wassa matta withchu? Come with me to London..
(Puts hand under chin and gestures toward her,
gangster style HB 8.5 tall redhead (laughing more)
: Hey I’d love to but I’m tired from work, blah blah
Me : Ah yeah, work eh. Hah I bet you’re tired,
climing up that pole, stripper girl.
Thus the convo was started
So we get on the train and talk more, I tell her I
have been to see my accountant and she tells me
she is a trainee account. At this point we’re sitting
opposite each other, so I move across next to her
and show her my expenses on my laptop (I also
show her pics of HB Spanish model who I’ve been
shagging, I don’t know why but this came up)
So I have about 1 hour to game her, plenty.
keep busting on her about various things and then
go kino. Hardcore. Started off brushing a bit of hair
off her face and told her I love readheads, she says
I’m cheesy but is loving it. We’re chatting like this
for a while and then some guy sits opposite so I
open up my laptop and start typing messages for
her on the screen.
It revolves around star signs and sexuality, I tell
her that she is a naughty girl and a typical red
head, she accuses me of being a player, doing
this all the time etc…I eventually say to her that
I think we should go to the toilets and fuck, she