The Battle over  Prayer God’s Word through Us Back to Him
Is there a foolproof, automatic Path to Activate God’s Will through His Ear?
If so, can it be learned from others?
What is the key to unlocking Perfect Prayer?
Perspective one: We’ve got free will and can’t get out of having free will. So: Prayer has to come through our free will t...
<ul><li>Let’s look at that perspective a bit closer: </li></ul>
If you are praying for someone, what do you say on their behalf to God? How do you know what they need?
The Usual?
<ul><li>You read in the Bible what people generally need and you prayed that those persons needs be fulfilled. </li></ul><...
<ul><li>Is there a special word order to get the desired effect? </li></ul>
<ul><li>How do you combine their needs in your prayer that results in that need being met while proving, maintaining and p...
<ul><li>You need a speech that you can speak in free will that keeps you independent from God to be a theoretical extra se...
<ul><li>2.  You need ceremony: candles, icons, idols, beads, medallions, rings, prayer books, ..other accoutrements of fre...
<ul><li>3.  The Sacrifice implied in the Ceremony: you deny yourself what you would rather be doing in order to pray for t...
Can you force God to answer your prayer by any means?
NO .
<ul><li>The best you can do is take a shot at it and roll the dice for yourself as well as others. </li></ul><ul><li>It is...
I.E. <ul><li>The spiritual benefit of others is limited by your understanding in any given instant. What you don’t underst...
Second Perspective: Prayer to God from one who has: ZERO NADA ZIP  free will
<ul><li>No interest in protecting that will or trying to figure out how to use it properly. </li></ul><ul><li>No false sac...
<ul><li>Necessitates a proactive God who understands what is needed  before  you do. </li></ul>Isaiah 65:24  And it shall ...
<ul><li>Necessitates God sending that prayer –every prayer --  knowing what He expects to hear in advance. He is the King ...
<ul><li>Necessitates God sending His Word as that prayer –a Word not bound within your supposed free will; a Word that is ...
Circle of Prayer God sends  Prayer to our new hearts That Word / Prayer is Himself As Word /Spirit God as Word /Spirit/ So...
<ul><li>The prayer that God Sends as Himself in no way mixes with non-creating speech. The prayers of a speech that can cr...
Deut 6:16  Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted  him  in Massah.   <ul><li>At Massah, Israel needed water, ...
<ul><li>God as the Word of Prayer as Holy Spirit   necessitates a plan before you knew of it for you to be an integral par...
<ul><li>Total lack of free will in prayer is total reliance on the Mind of Christ to know what is necessary for ourselves ...
<ul><li>1 Corinthians 2:9-14  But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart ...
<ul><li>The very spiritual intelligence and Word required to effect honest and pure prayer before God both for ourselves a...
And Prayer for enemies? For those that attack us?   <ul><li>How are we to know of the spiritual enemies of our fleshly ene...
<ul><li>Matthew 5:43-48  Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.  But I...
<ul><li>A very great part of spiritual warfare is over prayer. Satan seeks to make our prayers ineffective and indeed, lie...
<ul><li>1 Corinthians 15:33  Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.   </li></ul>Ineffective prayers Di...
<ul><li>God Himself sometimes withholds Himself as prayer as a judgment on individuals or nations: </li></ul><ul><li>Psalm...
Because He did not give us free will and guess-work prayers, God also protects His children from... <ul><li>The politiciza...
<ul><li>Because you know prayers that God sends ( because you know His Voice ), you also know prayers God did not send to ...
Activist prayers are an attack against the Church: <ul><li>Praying for homosexual/immoral acceptance? </li></ul><ul><li>Pr...
You are commanded by God to not pray with the wicked and not to support their prayers. <ul><li>2 Corinthians 6:14-17  Be y...
In a guesswork / free will scenario of prayer: <ul><li>..any prayer is as good as the next. After all, everyone is gamblin...
<ul><li>Plainly, wicked prayer is a form of putting a blindfold on the Church by both denying that God must send prayer an...
<ul><li>Pray for Prayers from God, from God’s Understanding: the gospel is prayer through you to others and back to God as...
<ul><li>Ephesians 6:18-20  By all prayer and supplication praying at all times in the spirit: and in the same watching wit...
<ul><li>John 17:18-22  As thou hast sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.  And for them do I sanct...
<ul><li>In all these dangers of false prayer and the accusations that go with them in this world, do not be timid: </li></...
<ul><li>In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen </li></ul>
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Battle Over Prayer

  1. 1. The Battle over Prayer God’s Word through Us Back to Him
  2. 2. Is there a foolproof, automatic Path to Activate God’s Will through His Ear?
  3. 3. If so, can it be learned from others?
  4. 4. What is the key to unlocking Perfect Prayer?
  5. 5. Perspective one: We’ve got free will and can’t get out of having free will. So: Prayer has to come through our free will to God’s ear and somehow activate God’s will. Presto: Desire Accomplished!
  6. 6. <ul><li>Let’s look at that perspective a bit closer: </li></ul>
  7. 7. If you are praying for someone, what do you say on their behalf to God? How do you know what they need?
  8. 8. The Usual?
  9. 9. <ul><li>You read in the Bible what people generally need and you prayed that those persons needs be fulfilled. </li></ul><ul><li>They told you what they needed. You passed it along to God. </li></ul><ul><li>You intuited what they needed in that you associated with them as a fellow being, put yourself in their situation, saw the need and then asked on their behalf. </li></ul><ul><li>You prayed for people who have certain circumstances as a class without knowing any names and prayed for an end to that circumstance for those people and very possible globally </li></ul>
  10. 10. <ul><li>Is there a special word order to get the desired effect? </li></ul>
  11. 11. <ul><li>How do you combine their needs in your prayer that results in that need being met while proving, maintaining and prospering your free will ..even to do it again? </li></ul>
  12. 12. <ul><li>You need a speech that you can speak in free will that keeps you independent from God to be a theoretical extra set of eyes and ears for Him. That speech has to have the quality that you control it and that it leaves your free will intact as you use it. You need a non-creating, will-neutral medium in which to communicate with God. You need a speech that is not God itself. </li></ul>
  13. 13. <ul><li>2. You need ceremony: candles, icons, idols, beads, medallions, rings, prayer books, ..other accoutrements of free will based religion. The larger the amount of and the more exact the ceremony, the more free will ‘used’ and the more effective the prayer? Sackcloth and ashes? A thousand bulls? Ten thousand? Knock on wood? </li></ul>
  14. 14. <ul><li>3. The Sacrifice implied in the Ceremony: you deny yourself what you would rather be doing in order to pray for them and that mere action adds effectiveness to the prayer? </li></ul>
  15. 15. Can you force God to answer your prayer by any means?
  16. 16. NO .
  17. 17. <ul><li>The best you can do is take a shot at it and roll the dice for yourself as well as others. </li></ul><ul><li>It is the best you can do ..and still think you’ve got free will. The very freedom the lie of free will supposedly grants you, prevents you from perfect prayer. As a result, all those who believe in free will have very mysterious causes why their prayers were not answered and it never supposedly has anything to do with free will itself. </li></ul>
  18. 18. I.E. <ul><li>The spiritual benefit of others is limited by your understanding in any given instant. What you don’t understand is a need you can’t get and they can’t get through you even if all actually received everything you prayed for 100% of the time. </li></ul>
  19. 19. Second Perspective: Prayer to God from one who has: ZERO NADA ZIP free will
  20. 20. <ul><li>No interest in protecting that will or trying to figure out how to use it properly. </li></ul><ul><li>No false sacrifice or ceremony necessary or useful </li></ul><ul><li>No wasted time or energy finding its way into that prayer. </li></ul>
  21. 21. <ul><li>Necessitates a proactive God who understands what is needed before you do. </li></ul>Isaiah 65:24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
  22. 22. <ul><li>Necessitates God sending that prayer –every prayer -- knowing what He expects to hear in advance. He is the King of Kings and His Word is pure and powerful. </li></ul>Matthew 10:18-20 And you shall be brought before governors, and before kings for my sake, for a testimony to them and to the Gentiles: But when they shall deliver you up, take no thought how or what to speak: for it shall be given you in that hour what to speak: For it is not you that speak, but the spirit of your Father that speaketh in you. Ecclesiastes 8:3,4 Be not hasty to depart from his face, and do not continue in an evil work: for he will do all that pleaseth him: And his word is full of power: neither can any man say to him: Why dost thou so?
  23. 23. <ul><li>Necessitates God sending His Word as that prayer –a Word not bound within your supposed free will; a Word that is not limited and Creates What He Says because He IS that Word </li></ul>Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
  24. 24. Circle of Prayer God sends Prayer to our new hearts That Word / Prayer is Himself As Word /Spirit God as Word /Spirit/ Son Speaks that prayer/ Himself and Knows His Voice and us as children ( Galatians 4:6 )
  25. 25. <ul><li>The prayer that God Sends as Himself in no way mixes with non-creating speech. The prayers of a speech that can create nothing and therefore may appear to be advantageous to the concept of free will in that they appear to be will-neutral and allow ‘free’ will, make no sense to God. Those false prayers are a temptation to God to give ear to non-creating speech. </li></ul>
  26. 26. Deut 6:16 Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah. <ul><li>At Massah, Israel needed water, but did not wait on the Word of God, but asked of God in a speech not-God. They asked for a necessity –but out of their lust. Anti-Christ sought to insinuate himself between God and the elect by becoming their only means of communication with God as the only ‘legitimate prayer’. That is why false ceremony and false prayer is not only not answered, but angers God. </li></ul>
  27. 27. <ul><li>God as the Word of Prayer as Holy Spirit necessitates a plan before you knew of it for you to be an integral part of the spiritual development of others beyond your own capacity on any level: you are an instrument of God foreordained to be a help to others as God does it through you </li></ul>Romans 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. Psalm 139:14-16 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
  28. 28. <ul><li>Total lack of free will in prayer is total reliance on the Mind of Christ to know what is necessary for ourselves and others. </li></ul>Romans 8:26,27 Likewise, the Spirit also helpeth our infirmity. For, we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit himself asketh for us with unspeakable groanings, And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what the Spirit desireth : because he asketh for the saints according to God .
  29. 29. <ul><li>1 Corinthians 2:9-14 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God . Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth ; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. </li></ul>
  30. 30. <ul><li>The very spiritual intelligence and Word required to effect honest and pure prayer before God both for ourselves and others God plainly Says the natural man ( who is fully deceived he has free will ) cannot receive. </li></ul><ul><li>..cannot ..as distinguished from ‘will not’. </li></ul>
  31. 31. And Prayer for enemies? For those that attack us? <ul><li>How are we to know of the spiritual enemies of our fleshly enemies unless God prays through us in the mind of Christ for them? </li></ul><ul><li>By so doing, God shows us all about the enemy of our enemies ..and our enemies themselves. </li></ul>
  32. 32. <ul><li>Matthew 5:43-48 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. </li></ul>
  33. 33. <ul><li>A very great part of spiritual warfare is over prayer. Satan seeks to make our prayers ineffective and indeed, lies ..by telling us we have the freedom to figure out what needs to be prayed for and need a speech not-God to pray it toward God. </li></ul><ul><li>Only God really knows all that is going on. He is the only one who can open His will to prayers. There is no other way. </li></ul><ul><li>God knows immediately where evil prayers come from. He doesn’t have to ask: “ Where did you get that prayer?” </li></ul>
  34. 34. <ul><li>1 Corinthians 15:33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. </li></ul>Ineffective prayers Dissappointment Anger at God Wasted effort
  35. 35. <ul><li>God Himself sometimes withholds Himself as prayer as a judgment on individuals or nations: </li></ul><ul><li>Psalm 109:7,8 When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin . Let his days be few; and let another take his office. </li></ul>
  36. 36. Because He did not give us free will and guess-work prayers, God also protects His children from... <ul><li>The politicization of prayer by wicked activists sent to the Church to instill guilt via the facade of pious prayers and the threat because that happens, all prayers for anything political are an engagement in mere moral relativism and therefore cannot be from God. </li></ul>
  37. 37. <ul><li>Because you know prayers that God sends ( because you know His Voice ), you also know prayers God did not send to be prayed by Christians. You know the prayers God has given the wicked in order that their prayer be sin. </li></ul>
  38. 38. Activist prayers are an attack against the Church: <ul><li>Praying for homosexual/immoral acceptance? </li></ul><ul><li>Praying for unity with pagan religions and false doctrines that routinely kill Christians and persecute Christ as best they may? </li></ul><ul><li>Praying for the earth? </li></ul><ul><li>Praying for any group that can be given a supposed minority status per their ideological desires? </li></ul>
  39. 39. You are commanded by God to not pray with the wicked and not to support their prayers. <ul><li>2 Corinthians 6:14-17 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, </li></ul><ul><li>2John 1:9-11 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. </li></ul>
  40. 40. In a guesswork / free will scenario of prayer: <ul><li>..any prayer is as good as the next. After all, everyone is gambling for their own desires and because everyone supposedly has free will, they must use it ‘for God’ in every ideology. Right? By definition, there can’t be any such thing as wicked prayer OR spiritual intelligence from God via prayer. </li></ul>
  41. 41. <ul><li>Plainly, wicked prayer is a form of putting a blindfold on the Church by both denying that God must send prayer and denying that in the prayer God sends is true intelligence about our total environment . </li></ul><ul><li>That kind of prayer has to have a foundation of free will doctrine to even appear to be legitimate. </li></ul>
  42. 42. <ul><li>Pray for Prayers from God, from God’s Understanding: the gospel is prayer through you to others and back to God as God Speaks it Creating whom He will and what He will in them. </li></ul>
  43. 43. <ul><li>Ephesians 6:18-20 By all prayer and supplication praying at all times in the spirit: and in the same watching with all instance and supplication for all the saints: And for me, that speech may be given me, that I may open my mouth with confidence, to make known the mystery of the gospel, For which I am an ambassador in a chain: so that therein I may be bold to speak according as I ought. </li></ul>
  44. 44. <ul><li>John 17:18-22 As thou hast sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. And for them do I sanctify myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth. And not for them only do I pray, but for them also who through their word shall believe in me. That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou hast given me, I have given to them: that, they may be one, as we also are one. </li></ul>
  45. 45. <ul><li>In all these dangers of false prayer and the accusations that go with them in this world, do not be timid: </li></ul><ul><li>Philippians 4:6,7 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. </li></ul>
  46. 46. <ul><li>In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen </li></ul>

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