Huizinga, and his homo ludens , was thinking about a state of mind, not about a new kind of humanity; of human being, but in a certain sense a state of mind, of certain temporary conditions of human beings. For instance, when you are at a carnival, a feast, a wedding party. Temporarily you become the homo ludens , but then the next day you can be the homo faber again. He has to earn his pay. Marx…says creativity is a state of mind. A man cannot always be a painter. He is only a painter when he paints…That is close. I have always tried to reconcile those two points of view, those visions of Marx…and Huizinga.