Scripture and Tradition A bible handwritten in Latin transcribed in Belgium in 1407 for reading aloud in a monastery
The Holy Bible <ul><li>The Bible is our book </li></ul><ul><li>Confronted by a scripture quoting preacher? </li></ul><ul><...
What Protestants Quote <ul><li>2 Tim 3:16-17 – All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation...
What Protestants Quote <ul><li>1 Cor 4:6 –  I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, ...
What Protestants Quote <ul><li>Acts 17:10-11 – the brothers immediately sent Paul and Silas to Beroea during the night. Up...
What Protestants Quote <ul><li>Rev 22:18-19 – I warn everyone who hears the prophetic words in this book: if anyone adds t...
What does Scripture really mean? <ul><li>2 Tim 3:16-17 - All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for ...
What does Scripture really mean? <ul><li>1 Cor 4:6 – I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, b...
What does Scripture really mean? <ul><li>Rev 22:18-19 – I warn everyone who hears the prophetic words in this book: if any...
What does Scripture really mean? <ul><li>Acts 17:10-11 – the brothers immediately sent Paul and Silas to Beroea during the...
What does Scripture really mean? <ul><li>1 Pet 1:25 – the word of the Lord remains forever.&quot; This is the word that ha...
Bible based Churches disagree <ul><li>The Lutheran Church believes in baptismal regeneration, the Baptist church does not....
Bible based Churches disagree <ul><li>The Lutheran church believes that worship should be liturgical, the Assembly of God ...
Bible based Churches disagree <ul><li>Lutherans affirm the fact that Mary remained a virgin throughout her life, Baptists ...
Bible based Churches disagree <ul><li>Episcopalians baptize infants, Pentecostals believe infant baptism to be invalid. </...
Some Questions <ul><li>If the Bible was the only thing that was necessary to know the Truth, as Protestants teach, then wh...
Where did the Bible come from? Codex Sinaiticus(c. 350) contains the oldest complete copy of the New Testament
Where did the Bible come from? <ul><li>Bible is a collection of books </li></ul><ul><li>There was disagreement about what ...
Where did the Old Testament come from? <ul><li>The Scriptures used by Jesus, Apostles - Septuagint </li></ul><ul><li>Septu...
Where did the Old Testament come from? <ul><li>Council of Florence – Scripture is inspired </li></ul><ul><li>Council of Tr...
Where did the New Testament come from? <ul><li>51-125AD: New Testament books are written </li></ul><ul><li>Some other book...
The Canon of the New Testament <ul><li>Pope Damasus lists present books 904 AD </li></ul><ul><li>Council of Florence recog...
Council of Trent – New Testament affirmed
Church - Mother of the Bible <ul><li>Luther : We are compelled to concede to the Papists (The Catholic Church) that they h...
We have the Bible today, but before? <ul><li>There was no New Testament for till 125 AD. Christians had only the oral teac...
Tradition <ul><li>Tradition is what is carried down by authority </li></ul><ul><li>Jews learned Scriptures orally </li></u...
The Bible on Tradition.. <ul><li>John 21:25 – not everything written </li></ul><ul><li>3 John 13,14 – tell you when we mee...
We must defend our faith <ul><li>Saul, Saul why do you persecute me? Division hurts the Body of Christ </li></ul><ul><li>J...
Conclusion <ul><li>Sola Scriptura – the claim </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Quotes from Scripture </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Refut...
Important words <ul><li>Sola Scriptura – Latin means only scripture </li></ul><ul><li>Ecumenical Council – A council of bi...
References <ul><li>The Catholic Encyclopedia </li></ul><ul><ul><li>http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/ </li></ul></ul><ul><li...
Questions on the Church? <ul><li>Following links are highly recommended: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Catholic Encyclopedia </li>...
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  1. 1. Scripture and Tradition A bible handwritten in Latin transcribed in Belgium in 1407 for reading aloud in a monastery
  2. 2. The Holy Bible <ul><li>The Bible is our book </li></ul><ul><li>Confronted by a scripture quoting preacher? </li></ul><ul><li>Is the Bible the only authority? Sola Scriptura? </li></ul>
  3. 3. What Protestants Quote <ul><li>2 Tim 3:16-17 – All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that one who belongs to God may be competent, equipped for every good work. </li></ul>Codex Alexandrinus – Gospel of Luke
  4. 4. What Protestants Quote <ul><li>1 Cor 4:6 – I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, so that you may learn from us not to go beyond what is written, so that none of you will be inflated with pride in favor of one person over against another. </li></ul>
  5. 5. What Protestants Quote <ul><li>Acts 17:10-11 – the brothers immediately sent Paul and Silas to Beroea during the night. Upon arrival they went to the synagogue of the Jews. These Jews were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with all willingness and examined the scriptures daily to determine whether these things were so. </li></ul>
  6. 6. What Protestants Quote <ul><li>Rev 22:18-19 – I warn everyone who hears the prophetic words in this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words in this prophetic book, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city described in this book </li></ul>
  7. 7. What does Scripture really mean? <ul><li>2 Tim 3:16-17 - All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that one who belongs to God may be competent, equipped for every good work. </li></ul><ul><li>This says that all scripture is good, but does not say that only scripture is good for these </li></ul><ul><li>Also, the previous 2 verses (14,15) talk about Tradition, so if read in context, it is talking about both Scripture and Tradition. </li></ul>
  8. 8. What does Scripture really mean? <ul><li>1 Cor 4:6 – I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, so that you may learn from us not to go beyond what is written, so that none of you will be inflated with pride in favor of one person over against another </li></ul><ul><li>“ what is written” refers to 1 Cor 3:19-20: </li></ul><ul><li>For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in the eyes of God, for it is written: &quot;He catches the wise in their own ruses,&quot; and again: &quot;The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.&quot; </li></ul><ul><li>Paul is telling the Corinthians to be humble, and not favour one person over another </li></ul>
  9. 9. What does Scripture really mean? <ul><li>Rev 22:18-19 – I warn everyone who hears the prophetic words in this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words in this prophetic book, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city described in this book </li></ul><ul><li>This is referring to the book of Revelation. Only referring to what is revealed to St John </li></ul>
  10. 10. What does Scripture really mean? <ul><li>Acts 17:10-11 – the brothers immediately sent Paul and Silas to Beroea during the night. Upon arrival they went to the synagogue of the Jews. These Jews were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with all willingness and examined the scriptures daily to determine whether these things were so. </li></ul><ul><li>“ These things” refer to verses 2-3: </li></ul><ul><li>Following his usual custom, Paul joined them, and for three sabbaths he entered into discussions with them from the scriptures, expounding and demonstrating that the Messiah had to suffer and rise from the dead, and that &quot;This is the Messiah, Jesus, whom I proclaim to you.&quot; </li></ul><ul><li>They were examining the scriptures to determine about “the Messiah had to suffer and rise from the dead, and Jesus is the Messiah </li></ul>
  11. 11. What does Scripture really mean? <ul><li>1 Pet 1:25 – the word of the Lord remains forever.&quot; This is the word that has been proclaimed to you. </li></ul><ul><li>This is not talking about written Scripture, but of the word proclaimed to you – the oral word </li></ul>
  12. 12. Bible based Churches disagree <ul><li>The Lutheran Church believes in baptismal regeneration, the Baptist church does not. </li></ul><ul><li>The Assembly of God denomination uses instrumental music during worship, the Church of Christ denomination believes instrumental music to be unbiblical. </li></ul><ul><li>Presbyterians believe in unconditional atonement and irresistible grace, Methodists reject the two beliefs. </li></ul>
  13. 13. Bible based Churches disagree <ul><li>The Lutheran church believes that worship should be liturgical, the Assembly of God church does not. </li></ul><ul><li>The Church of Christ denomination believes that baptism should be administered by complete immersion only, Presbyterians believe pouring is acceptable. </li></ul><ul><li>Methodists believe in the Trinity, Oneness Pentecostals do not. </li></ul>
  14. 14. Bible based Churches disagree <ul><li>Lutherans affirm the fact that Mary remained a virgin throughout her life, Baptists reject this belief and say that Mary had other children. </li></ul><ul><li>The Church of Christ denomination believes that baptism is necessary for salvation, the Baptist Church does not. </li></ul><ul><li>The Methodist church accepts female ministers, while the Baptist church rejects female ministers as unbiblical. </li></ul>
  15. 15. Bible based Churches disagree <ul><li>Episcopalians baptize infants, Pentecostals believe infant baptism to be invalid. </li></ul><ul><li>The Baptist Church teaches that once a person is saved, he is always saved and can not fall from grace. The Church of Christ rejects this teaching as unscriptural. </li></ul>
  16. 16. Some Questions <ul><li>If the Bible was the only thing that was necessary to know the Truth, as Protestants teach, then why were there so many interpretations of the scriptures? </li></ul><ul><li>If the Holy Spirit guided each and every person in the correct interpretation of the Word, then why didn't every Christian believe the same things? </li></ul>
  17. 17. Where did the Bible come from? Codex Sinaiticus(c. 350) contains the oldest complete copy of the New Testament
  18. 18. Where did the Bible come from? <ul><li>Bible is a collection of books </li></ul><ul><li>There was disagreement about what books should be included </li></ul><ul><li>Many thought that certain books were inspired: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>The Gospel of Peter </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>The Shepherd </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>The Didache </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Church tested books for Apostolicity, Catholicity, Orthodoxy </li></ul>
  19. 19. Where did the Old Testament come from? <ul><li>The Scriptures used by Jesus, Apostles - Septuagint </li></ul><ul><li>Septuagint also called LXX – translated to Greek by 70 Jewish scholars, before 180BC </li></ul><ul><li>A collection of scrolls – contains 7 deutro-canonical books, plus other books </li></ul><ul><li>Apostolic Fathers – Augustine, St Cyprian quoted deutro-canonicals </li></ul><ul><li>The Council of Jamnia – Isa 7:14 - the Jewish Canon </li></ul><ul><li>Luther chose the Jewish books; other 7 apocrypha </li></ul>
  20. 20. Where did the Old Testament come from? <ul><li>Council of Florence – Scripture is inspired </li></ul><ul><li>Council of Trent affirms the canonicity of all 46 books of the Old Testament </li></ul>Pope Paul III invoked the Council of Trent
  21. 21. Where did the New Testament come from? <ul><li>51-125AD: New Testament books are written </li></ul><ul><li>Some other books also written: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Didache </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Letter of Barnabas </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Letters of Ignatius of Antioch </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Athanasius of Alexandria – list of present books in his Easter letter </li></ul>Papyrus P52 (Greek) Gospel of John 18:31–33
  22. 22. The Canon of the New Testament <ul><li>Pope Damasus lists present books 904 AD </li></ul><ul><li>Council of Florence recognizes 27 books (1442) </li></ul><ul><li>Luther translates to German – moves 4 books (Heb, James, Jude, Rev) to the end </li></ul><ul><li>Council of Trent 1546 reaffirms once for all the 27 books of the New Testament </li></ul>
  23. 23. Council of Trent – New Testament affirmed
  24. 24. Church - Mother of the Bible <ul><li>Luther : We are compelled to concede to the Papists (The Catholic Church) that they have the Word of God, that we received it from them, and that without them we should have no knowledge of it at all. </li></ul><ul><li>Interpretation of Scripture - Tradition </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation - 2 Peter 1:20 </li></ul></ul>
  25. 25. We have the Bible today, but before? <ul><li>There was no New Testament for till 125 AD. Christians had only the oral teachings that were passed down from the Apostles </li></ul><ul><li>Bible was not easily available till Gutenberg invented the printing press in the 15 th century. Very few could afford a Bible. Could have Christ have founded a Church for the rich? </li></ul><ul><li>If those Christians did not have access to a Bible, how can we say “go read the Bible. The Holy Spirit will tell you the truth”? </li></ul>
  26. 26. Tradition <ul><li>Tradition is what is carried down by authority </li></ul><ul><li>Jews learned Scriptures orally </li></ul><ul><li>Jesus Christ taught – he did not write </li></ul><ul><li>Jesus sent the apostles to proclaim the good news </li></ul><ul><li>Adam was told orally by God </li></ul><ul><li>The “word of God” came to Elijah </li></ul><ul><li>There was no Bible in the early Church </li></ul><ul><li>What is Magisterium – teaching authority </li></ul>
  27. 27. The Bible on Tradition.. <ul><li>John 21:25 – not everything written </li></ul><ul><li>3 John 13,14 – tell you when we meet </li></ul><ul><li>Rom 10:17 - faith comes from what is heard </li></ul><ul><li>2 Tim 2:2 - And what you heard from me through many witnesses entrust to faithful people who will have the ability to teach others as well. </li></ul><ul><li>We instruct you, brothers, in the name of (our) Lord Jesus Christ, to shun any brother who conducts himself in a disorderly way and not according to the tradition they received from us. </li></ul><ul><li>1 Cor 11:2 – hold on to traditions </li></ul><ul><li>The Church of the living God, is the pillar and foundation of truth - 1 Tim 3:15 </li></ul>
  28. 28. We must defend our faith <ul><li>Saul, Saul why do you persecute me? Division hurts the Body of Christ </li></ul><ul><li>Jesus prayed for unity: Father, that they may be one </li></ul><ul><li>I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not stand against it </li></ul><ul><li>In Heaven what will we answer if we don't </li></ul><ul><li>Find out about your faith so that you can answer </li></ul>
  29. 29. Conclusion <ul><li>Sola Scriptura – the claim </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Quotes from Scripture </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Refutations </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Does Sola Scriptura work in practice? </li></ul><ul><li>How did the Bible come to being? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>The Canon of Scripture </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Tradition – what is it? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Handed down from generation to generation </li></ul></ul><ul><li>What is Magisterium? Teaching authority </li></ul>
  30. 30. Important words <ul><li>Sola Scriptura – Latin means only scripture </li></ul><ul><li>Ecumenical Council – A council of bishops with the authority of God to define and clarify faith, e.g Council of Trent, Vatican Council II </li></ul><ul><li>Canon of Scripture – a set of books considered to be inspired by the Church </li></ul><ul><li>Magisterium – Teaching authority of the Church given by Jesus Christ – Matthew 16:18 </li></ul>
  31. 31. References <ul><li>The Catholic Encyclopedia </li></ul><ul><ul><li>http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/ </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Canon of Scripture </li></ul><ul><ul><li>http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/sbrandt/canon.htm </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Adult Catechesis audios (Fr Joseph Shetler and Mr Spencer Allen, St Joseph Cathedral) </li></ul><ul><ul><li>http://catholicaudio.blogspot.com </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Testimony of Kenneth Henderson via email </li></ul>
  32. 32. Questions on the Church? <ul><li>Following links are highly recommended: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Catholic Encyclopedia </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Sonitus Sanctus: Catholic audio links </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Catechism of the Catholic Church </li></ul></ul>
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