Insulating Solid Wall BuildingsRisks, opportunities and the need       for a new approach             Neil May            ...
STBA research for DECCKey Findings•Traditional buildings perform differently in somerespects from modern buildings, both i...
• A systemic approach ( ie a holistic approach  considering interactions rather than an approach  based upon individual me...
Recommendations• Policy issues  – New conventions  – New standards  – New assessment and training• Delivery issues  – A ne...
Conclusion• If these recommendations are taken up, then  some of the main risks to traditional buildings  of the Green Dea...
Fabric First?• Is fabric first the correct approach for traditional  buildings and particularly when it comes to  insulati...
The problem of false certainty• The difficulty of multiple factor complexity• The complexity of situations where people  a...
The opportunity of uncertainty• The acceptance of a situation where there  are no easy answers or perhaps no  answers at a...
Solid walls•   Thermal and energy performance•   Moisture•   Health•   Community and culture?
Thermal and Energy           Performance• Background issue of U values of  traditional walls and calculation methods• Ther...
Old walls bad – new walls goodSAP energy assessment of dwellings based on age of stock.Review of Sustainability of Existin...
Thermal issues: Traditional walls• Do not conform to type of wall suited to BR 443  (using BS 9496) – ie discreet layers o...
l       e       s         1 R              u                                         All U-value results 2009-2011 - BR 44...
Average in situ U-value for stone & brick wallsAppendix S SAP 2009 – Stone 2.1 & 2.4 W/m2K, Brick 2.1 W/m2K    In situ U-v...
Trinity College results - monitoring• Walls bone dry (extensive heating)• Some very wet joists (one façade at ground level...
Trinity College results -monitoring• Very different material properties between the two brick  samples• Initial monitoring...
Consequences• We need more research and better  understanding of solid wall thermal  performance• We need to be careful of...
Practical limits: Thermal BridgesRefurbishment of a traditional stone wall with 60 mm insulation on the   inside   Reveal ...
Thermal Limits (Internal Insulation)
Thermal Bridges: Party Wall Issues              Before                                 After    13,1 °C                 13...
External Insulation versus Internal?Energy loss through external wall in %                                                ...
RealityAssessing the execution of retrofitted external wall  insulation for pre-1919 dwellings in Swansea (UK);
Assessing the execution of retrofitted external wall insulation for  pre-1919 dwellings in Swansea (UK); Joanne Hopper et ...
Assessing the execution of retrofitted external wallinsulation for pre-1919 dwellings in Swansea (UK); JoanneHopper et al ...
Detail in BBA Certificate                             As applied on site   Assessing the execution of retrofitted external...
Energy/Carbon Rebound effects• Warm Front• BedZed• Traditional buildings?
Energy principlesEvery home is differentParity Projectsanalysis of 40 homesin London, built within5 years of each otheraro...
Moisture: more unknowns•   Material data•   Weather data•   Moisture physics•   Durability of fabric over time•   Construc...
Building Health & Human         Health
Conflicting understanding of mouldrisk?• Driven rain is not so important in Germany as  UK• IBP sees presence of oxygen as...
Modelling Protocols• BS EN 13788 (BS 5250) versus EN 15026EN 13788             EN 15026Steady state         DynamicMonthly...
Driven rain and internal VCLs: Average     water content of an external (German)                       wall      water con...
Internal Insulation Approaches  Non breathable     Breathable
100mm Pavaflex on 9”solid brick, 0 DR
Swansea, SWLondon, SWPavadentro on 9” solid brick, 1%DR
Swansea, SWSwansea, NPavadentro on 9” solid brick, 1%DR
Problems with Modelling• Human error• Manipulation• Data errors/ unknowns (ie OSB µ = 30/175)    – Material data    – Weat...
Problems with WUFI modelsClimate chamber – Pavadentro (sec.1)                                        RH - simulated       ...
What is the reality?• How do things happen in reality?• What happens when things are not done  right?• What about users? O...
Health Performance?IGT on Low Carbon ConstructionRecommendation 8.3:“that, to avoid the risk of a new generation ofsick bu...
Health – VERY complex• Interaction insulation, airtightness and  ventilation with fabric moisture, living  conditions and ...
Real Dangers of Bad Energy    Efficient Building Envelopes• Increased Cardio-Respiratory illness  (Lancet)• UCL research f...
Modern ventilation?• Work by AECOM for Part F 2010• Airtightness in new buildings was better than  predicted (on completio...
Big UNKNOWNS• Effect on community• Effect on culture• Effect on relationship with the natural  environment
Radical retrofit requires            rethinking• Is fabric the best place to start?• How do buildings relate to lifestyle ...
Why not fabric first?• People first• Buildings don’t use energy, people do• Its highly complicated and we don’t know  most...
STBA proposalWe need to accept our current lack ofknowledge and the possibly unresolvablecomplexity of this situation and ...
STBA Proposed GuidanceStructure for traditional building             retrofit
Can use for services also
Solid wall buildings• Different in some details from all other  buildings, but principles and the necessary  approach are ...
Thank you for listening www.natural-building.co.uk
Insulating solid wall buildings risks, opportunities, and the need for a new approach - By Neil May, NBT
Insulating solid wall buildings risks, opportunities, and the need for a new approach - By Neil May, NBT
Insulating solid wall buildings risks, opportunities, and the need for a new approach - By Neil May, NBT
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Insulating solid wall buildings risks, opportunities, and the need for a new approach - By Neil May, NBT

  1. 1. Insulating Solid Wall BuildingsRisks, opportunities and the need for a new approach Neil May NBT UCL STBA
  2. 2. STBA research for DECCKey Findings•Traditional buildings perform differently in somerespects from modern buildings, both in their existingstate and in retrofit•There is a lack of understanding of traditional buildingperformance.•Some modern methods for assessing traditionalbuildings are inappropriate and give incorrect results•Traditional buildings often perform better in terms ofheat loss through fabric than as stated in standardmodels and assessment methods. This means that thelikely paybacks from some retrofit measures may be lessthan assumed•Traditional buildings require different assessment andpractice in regards to the control of moisture in buildings,which is vital for fabric and human health
  3. 3. • A systemic approach ( ie a holistic approach considering interactions rather than an approach based upon individual measures, building elements or technologies) is necessary in regard to assessment and retrofit of traditional buildings if rebound effects and unintended negative consequences are to be avoided. This process should include the whole supply chain and users. This is relevant also to modern buildings but in a different way, with different effects and risks.• There are good opportunities for the development of safe, robust, energy efficient and cost-effective retrofit measures in many areas of traditional buildings. However this will have to be on a different basis and structure from some current Green Deal proposals.
  4. 4. Recommendations• Policy issues – New conventions – New standards – New assessment and training• Delivery issues – A new approach based on learning and systemic thinking – Training and skills – A guidance structure and knowledge centre• Development issues – A wide ranging research programme – Action based research and feedback
  5. 5. Conclusion• If these recommendations are taken up, then some of the main risks to traditional buildings of the Green Deal policy may be averted. Furthermore it is believed by the STBA that, if these recommendations are carried through, the Green Deal and other retrofit policies could be undertaken with more financial, energy and environmental benefit than previously envisaged, and be a driver for significant positive change in industry (both in terms of employment and skills), in user behaviour and in terms of public understanding and engagement.
  6. 6. Fabric First?• Is fabric first the correct approach for traditional buildings and particularly when it comes to insulating solid walls?• What are the risks and where? – The known, the known unknowns and the unknown unknowns• What are the opportunities and where? As above!• How can we manage risks, and seize opportunities in order to move forward positively and quickly for the broadest and
  7. 7. The problem of false certainty• The difficulty of multiple factor complexity• The complexity of situations where people are involved• The failure of single focus solutions to deal with multi-causal problems• The pressures to deliver and meet unrealistic targets or milestones.• Commercial pressure to sell, sell, sell!
  8. 8. The opportunity of uncertainty• The acceptance of a situation where there are no easy answers or perhaps no answers at all is liberating• Uncertainty requires care, open- mindedness, and humility• Uncertainty can lead to a different kind of success, perhaps a better one than we could imagine
  9. 9. Solid walls• Thermal and energy performance• Moisture• Health• Community and culture?
  10. 10. Thermal and Energy Performance• Background issue of U values of traditional walls and calculation methods• Thermal Limits?• Application in reality?• User response
  11. 11. Old walls bad – new walls goodSAP energy assessment of dwellings based on age of stock.Review of Sustainability of Existing Buildings, DCLG, 2006.
  12. 12. Thermal issues: Traditional walls• Do not conform to type of wall suited to BR 443 (using BS 9496) – ie discreet layers of known materials• Also no robust material data for traditional materials• So are the Rd SAP values correct?
  13. 13. l e s 1 R u All U-value results 2009-2011 - BR 443/In-situ U-value Comparision e n 4.50 0 4.00 0 3.50 0 In-situ U-values u sIn-situ U-values (W/m2K) ) Linear (BuildDesk U-values) r k ) 3.00 0 2.50 0 s 2.00 0 u 1.50 0 1.00 0 0.50 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0.50 0 1.00 0 1.50 0 2.00 0 2.50 0 3.00 0 3.50 0 4.00 0 4.50 0 BuildDesk U-values (W/m2K) k s ) Thermal performance of traditional walls underestimated by BR 443 in 73% of cases (2009 – 2011, 59 samples)
  14. 14. Average in situ U-value for stone & brick wallsAppendix S SAP 2009 – Stone 2.1 & 2.4 W/m2K, Brick 2.1 W/m2K In situ U-value Stone & Brick = 1.48 W/m2K (average)
  15. 15. Trinity College results - monitoring• Walls bone dry (extensive heating)• Some very wet joists (one façade at ground level)• Better thermal performance of the wall than modelled under modified BR443 U-Value (W/m2K) RdSAP 2009 default 2.1 Calculated (BuildDesk) 1.46 Measured (Heat Flux) 0.69 (average) External lime render (20mm), natural stone (600mm), internal lime plaster (20mm) 15
  16. 16. Trinity College results -monitoring• Very different material properties between the two brick samples• Initial monitoring of RH and Temperature fails• Initial tests of in situ U values and air permeability completely different from second tests Test 1 Test 2 In situ U values 1.4 0.7 Air Permeability 22m3/m2/hr 11m3/m2/hr 16
  17. 17. Consequences• We need more research and better understanding of solid wall thermal performance• We need to be careful of modelling and monitoring. These require a lot of skill• We need to be aware that the forecast energy and financial payback will almost certainly not be as good as predicted when buildings are retrofitted
  18. 18. Practical limits: Thermal BridgesRefurbishment of a traditional stone wall with 60 mm insulation on the inside Reveal not insulateda Reveal now insulated with 40 mm insulation
  19. 19. Thermal Limits (Internal Insulation)
  20. 20. Thermal Bridges: Party Wall Issues Before After 13,1 °C 13,1 °C 12,6 °C 15 °CPartial fixed internal wall insulation:t Displacement of isotherms, surface temperature sinks on the non- insulated side of the wall Risk of mould / mildew
  21. 21. External Insulation versus Internal?Energy loss through external wall in % External Thickness of internal insulation in cm insulation
  22. 22. RealityAssessing the execution of retrofitted external wall insulation for pre-1919 dwellings in Swansea (UK);
  23. 23. Assessing the execution of retrofitted external wall insulation for pre-1919 dwellings in Swansea (UK); Joanne Hopper et al 2011
  24. 24. Assessing the execution of retrofitted external wallinsulation for pre-1919 dwellings in Swansea (UK); JoanneHopper et al 2011
  25. 25. Detail in BBA Certificate As applied on site Assessing the execution of retrofitted external wall insulation for pre-1919 dwellings in Swansea (UK); Joanne Hopper et al 2011
  26. 26. Energy/Carbon Rebound effects• Warm Front• BedZed• Traditional buildings?
  27. 27. Energy principlesEvery home is differentParity Projectsanalysis of 40 homesin London, built within5 years of each otheraround 1900, withinone mile of eachother, unusual housesremoved
  28. 28. Moisture: more unknowns• Material data• Weather data• Moisture physics• Durability of fabric over time• Construction fault modellingWhat we do know is that moisture is the main cause of building decay and one of the main causes of human health problems in buildings
  29. 29. Building Health & Human Health
  30. 30. Conflicting understanding of mouldrisk?• Driven rain is not so important in Germany as UK• IBP sees presence of oxygen as critical• RH limits in IBP – Max RH with air = 85% – Max RH without air = 95%• Part F limits – 1 day 85% – 1 week 75% – 1 month 65%
  31. 31. Modelling Protocols• BS EN 13788 (BS 5250) versus EN 15026EN 13788 EN 15026Steady state DynamicMonthly (averaged) HourlyLimited materials Full materials criteriacriteriaNo driven rain Driven rainNo orientation Orientation 34
  32. 32. Driven rain and internal VCLs: Average water content of an external (German) wall water content in kg/m2 Driven rain absorption 100% Variant 1: without VCL Driven rain absorption 50% Variant 2: with VCL Driven rain absorption 0% Insulation thickness (k-value 0.040) in mmSource: Dr. A. Worch: Innendämmung: Bauphysikalische Aspekte, Probleme und Grenzen und Lösungswege für die Praxis(engl: Dr. A. Worch: Internal insulation: structural-physical aspects, problems and limits and solutions for the practice)
  33. 33. Internal Insulation Approaches Non breathable Breathable
  34. 34. 100mm Pavaflex on 9”solid brick, 0 DR
  35. 35. Swansea, SWLondon, SWPavadentro on 9” solid brick, 1%DR
  36. 36. Swansea, SWSwansea, NPavadentro on 9” solid brick, 1%DR
  37. 37. Problems with Modelling• Human error• Manipulation• Data errors/ unknowns (ie OSB µ = 30/175) – Material data – Weather data• Simplification of complex structures• Problems at junctions/ bits you can’t model• Issue of how to model bad application• False certainty
  38. 38. Problems with WUFI modelsClimate chamber – Pavadentro (sec.1) RH - simulated Wetting Drying RH - monitored
  39. 39. What is the reality?• How do things happen in reality?• What happens when things are not done right?• What about users? Old, young, disabled?
  40. 40. Health Performance?IGT on Low Carbon ConstructionRecommendation 8.3:“that, to avoid the risk of a new generation ofsick buildings, the promotion of the health andwell-being of occupiers should be placed on anequal footing with the current emphasis oncarbon reduction.”Is anyone listening?
  41. 41. Health – VERY complex• Interaction insulation, airtightness and ventilation with fabric moisture, living conditions and human health… Umm• Research work sees known risks with dust mites, overheating, and even obesity of thermally better housing.• What about unknowns?
  42. 42. Real Dangers of Bad Energy Efficient Building Envelopes• Increased Cardio-Respiratory illness (Lancet)• UCL research found an increase in dust mites in beds of 2500 x base case house when air permeability 10m/hr was decreased to 3m/hr.• Decrease by 60% at 20m/hr• Also 350 x increase over base case when one type of MVHR was installed
  43. 43. Modern ventilation?• Work by AECOM for Part F 2010• Airtightness in new buildings was better than predicted (on completion – no long term analysis).• Ventilation of all type fails to provide sufficient air changes in majority of cases.• Out of 22 dwellings assessed with natural ventilation 70% fail to have sufficient air changes. 4 exceed safe mould levels and 11 exceed safe VOC levels.• Out of 9 houses with mechanical ventilation 8 fail to have sufficient air changes, one by 63%.• BSRIA report 95% failure rate in MVHR system air quality
  44. 44. Big UNKNOWNS• Effect on community• Effect on culture• Effect on relationship with the natural environment
  45. 45. Radical retrofit requires rethinking• Is fabric the best place to start?• How do buildings relate to lifestyle and community?• How do we encourage learning and engagement?• Do we start with buildings or with food, or childcare, or something else? Or do we several things together?• What is sustainability for?• What are humans for?
  46. 46. Why not fabric first?• People first• Buildings don’t use energy, people do• Its highly complicated and we don’t know most of it• We need to prioritise learning in all we do• Ensure that processes are simple and have integrity, relevance and meaning in order to allow learning
  47. 47. STBA proposalWe need to accept our current lack ofknowledge and the possibly unresolvablecomplexity of this situation and turn it to good.This led to a specific proposal for – Learning based approach, based on a guidance structure: iterative, open, contextual, systemic, holistic, with feedback mechanisms – Linked to public knowledge centre to guide research, training, and to log, analyse and integrate feedback
  48. 48. STBA Proposed GuidanceStructure for traditional building retrofit
  49. 49. Can use for services also
  50. 50. Solid wall buildings• Different in some details from all other buildings, but principles and the necessary approach are the same• An opportunity for a holistic and fully human programme of research, work and enjoyment
  51. 51. Thank you for listening www.natural-building.co.uk

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