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  • Welcome Introduce myself Parents need information in what can be a baffling time of their and their children’s lives Don’t want to be too specific, but just give some basic information that might help. I will have some folders ready to be collected at the conclusion of the night which contain the most of the information presented here tonight, including some websites that might be of interest.
  • I’d also like to welcome our other guests for the night: Meeghan McHugh from SCU – Coffs and Kym Burton from UNE Armidale and Fran Dwyer from CSU. There will be opportunity to talk to those presenters and pick up some extra information at the conclusion of the night. Welcome and I thank you for your time and expertise that you bring with you..
  • Tonight’s focus will be on University, with three distinct sections – Getting There, Getting there (eventually), and Surviving there. Getting there – University application process – when, why and how; Alternative methods of getting there – special entry schemes and Bonus ATAR schemes Getting there (eventually) deals with what can be done if the student doesn’t get the ATAR needed for entry to the course of their dreams Surviving there looks at mainly financial aspects of studying away from home
  • Free copies in late July early August, which has the instructions on how to apply.
  • Change the order of these preferences as often as you wish. Enter your preferences according to : 1. Pick 1-3 ‘ideal’ courses 2. Pick 4-6 ‘realistic’ courses 3. Pick 7-9 ‘foot in the door’ courses. Only enter courses for which you would accept an offer.
  • Applications open in August, close on 30 th September, applications can be made after this date but will incur a substantial increase in cost the later you leave it.
  • Check the UAC guide for more details, usually you can contact the relevant institution regarding the additional criteria.
  • Special Entry Schemes – an alternative method of applying for courses which does not necessarily rely on the ATAR as a selection tool, but asks for school input into the ability of the student to perform at tertiary level, based on other indicators. Some of the unis that offer such schemes are here tonight CSU, SCU and UNE. Courses requiring a Special Application Process. – some courses require students to do more than just submit a UAC application, e.g. fill out a questionnaire, present for an interview, submit a portfolio, perform in an audition. Example is of those people applying to study Medicine. They must register to sit an external aptitude test, submit an application form direct to the University they want to study at, apply through UAC, and present themselves for an interview. Deadlines! Bonus points – U Newcastle (4), SCU (5), CSU (5) and Gong (3) – happens automatically and doesn’t need to be applied for by the student.
  • Some universities charge a fee to defer a course around $100. If during your year off you wish to apply for a different course you can – through UAC again. If an offer is made to the new preference, the deferred course offer will lapse.
  • Majority of offers in 2010 were made in the Main Round in Late January.
  • A real phenomenon – various reasons – negatives as well as positives. What if I don’t get the ATAR that I need? – every year some students are disappointed… The message is that it’s not the end of the world, and there are other ways of reaching your goal.
  • A pply for a course that requires a lesser ATAR for admission than the course you originally wanted to get into, with the hope of upgrading later to a more preferred course. Consider the following factors: Can you perform well enough in this course to upgrade to your preferred course? Are you genuinely interested in the course? If not, it may be difficult to achieve excellent results. Will you be given credit for work done in this course should you upgrade? Are you motivated to continue with this course if you do not succeed in upgrading, or might you drop out? E nrol in a course at a Private College or TAFE. These courses will often gain you additional points on top of your ATAR if you decide to apply for University entrance again in the future. Examples of private Colleges are Williams Business College, APM Training, JMC Academy and so on. A pply (in September) for special schemes which may push you ‘past the post’ with your ATAR. Popular examples include the Early Entry Scheme at University of New England, the STAR Scheme at Southern Cross University and the PREP (Principals Report Entry Program) through Charles Sturt University. But remember, there is no use waiting until your marks are released in December – the closing dates for these schemes will be long gone.
  • T he STAT (Special Tertiary Admissions Test) is a 2 hour long aptitude test which assists applicants to demonstrate their potential for tertiary study and helps institutions in making selection decisions. Not all universities recognize STAT, so check first before arranging to take the test. O pen Universities Australia (OUA) allows study in a wide range of degree areas from home. There are no entry requirements, and no limit on available places. Fees must be paid up-front. Upon completion of designated OUA units, admission to some university degree courses face to face may be possible. I n some cases, people who have completed apprenticeships may be accepted into some courses; people who have additional qualifications in say, dance or drama, music or speech; people with language qualifications also. There is always a quota in each course for mature-aged entry, where the ATAR is not really a consideration, more on life skills and experiences etc. You’re never too old to learn.
  • What is HECS? How much you pay depends upon the type of place you have at Uni…. Commonwealth Supported Place (CSP) – applies to the bulk of our students. The ATAR is set, and the student pays a contribution towards the cost of his studies.
  • If you are a CSP (Commonwealth Supported Place) student, the courses and subjects you are studying will fall into one of 4 bands, each one attracting a certain level of student contribution. HECS-Help is a scheme whereby the CSP student can defer the payment of their student contribution until their income reaches a certain threshold. Other considerations are Accommodation, textbooks, Transport, Clothing, Social Life, Uniforms where needed, and so on.
  • This is what you need to be earning (in 2009-10) before you start to pay back your Higher Education debt through the taxation system
  • There are other expenses associated with going to uni…..
  • Just taking these costs into account your child is around $300 / week.
  • Examples of accommodation costs – everyone is different – and so people will be better suited to particular types of accommodation – these are just examples of some. Most unis have offices set up to assist with accommodation both on-campus and off – UAC book will tell you more. Some unis will require you to vacate your room during semester breaks.
  • Student loans are available from some institutions including the Commonwealth Bank. There are many many scholarships available. Looking for different things – not always academic – some are based on financial situation, or sporting prowess, and so on. Many scholarships go unallocated merely because not enough people applied for them in the first place, so our advice is Apply – For the want of spending a half hour completing an application form and a few more minutes photocopying supporting documentation, it could be very worth while.
  • A typical student timetable could look like this…which equates to 22 hours face to face for this person, others would vary from course to course.
  • It’s important to be happy where you are going to be for the next few years. It will certainly help with success. It’s great to find the course of your dreams but it’s another thing yet again to be studying in Albury when all you would love to do in your spare time is go for a surf. So if you can get to Open Days, or at least visit the campus and get a feel for the place first, it might help you make the right decision. Camden Haven Careers Expo is coming up in Week 1 next term – compulsory – CHHS. Parents are welcome at no charge. A great opportunity to pick up initial info.
  • You really need to visit the campuses or unis that your son or daughter are thinking about attending and the Open Days are designed for that purpose….get a feel for the place.
  • Busy times ahead……… The need to start planning NOW
  • I seem to get the most mail deliveries of any person in this school – most of it Careers info. So in order to best get the info out to people, I use an email alert system. The details of how to subscribe for this are in your info folders. If you are keen to be involved in your child’s journey and want to be informed about everything, then I encourage you to subscribe to this service. If any of it doesn’t concern or interest you, then there’s always the “delete” key!
  • Thank You, please feel free to catch up with the uni reps here tonight and grab a folder containing information from tonight's presentation.
  • Transition night year12_careers2011

    1. 1. <ul><li>Families provide young people with a ‘safe and secure net’ while they are free to make choices about their post-school options. </li></ul><ul><li>In summary: </li></ul><ul><li>“ Let them choose, but be there for them”. </li></ul><ul><li>Australian Young People : their stories, their families and post-school plans. (the Smith Family, May 2007) </li></ul>
    2. 2. MacKillop Senior College SUCCESSFUL TRANSITIONS to UNIVERSITY 2011
    3. 3. Our Guests <ul><li>Kym Burton (University of New England) </li></ul><ul><li>Meeghan McHugh (Southern Cross University) </li></ul><ul><li>Fran Dwyer (Charles Sturt University) </li></ul>
    4. 4. “ SUCCESSFUL TRANSITIONS” Getting there Getting there (eventually) Surviving there University
    6. 6. What about UAC? <ul><li>UAC is the central office that receives and processes applications for participating institutions (all unis in NSW and the ACT + </li></ul><ul><li>* La Trobe uni in VIC - Albury-Wodonga campus, </li></ul><ul><li>* Griffith uni in QLD - Gold Coast campus and </li></ul><ul><li>* AMC in Tas). </li></ul><ul><li>Institutions, not UAC, decide on offers </li></ul><ul><li>UAC notifies HSC students of their ATAR </li></ul><ul><li>Each year UAC publishes the UAC Guide </li></ul>
    7. 7. What is the ATAR? <ul><li>A ustralian T ertiary A dmissions R ank ( ATAR ) is calculated from the HSC by UAC. </li></ul><ul><li>You opt to apply and pay for an ATAR through UAC. </li></ul><ul><li>Universities set cut offs for their courses based on their popularity, the number of places offered and the quality of the applicants. </li></ul><ul><li>Therefore the ATAR cut-offs for courses change from year to year. </li></ul>
    8. 8. <ul><li>The ATAR is a number between 0 and 99.95 in 0.05 increments. However an ATAR between 0 and 30 will not be reported. </li></ul><ul><li>It is calculated on the best 10 units, which includes the best 2 units of English and the best remaining 8 units which may only contain 2 units of Category B courses (Hospitality, Industrial Technology Timber) </li></ul>
    9. 9. GETTING THERE - Applying <ul><li>Must apply on-line </li></ul><ul><li> </li></ul>
    10. 10. UAC 2012 Guide <ul><li>Free copies of the UAC 2012 Guide will be sent to schools in late July or early August 2011 </li></ul><ul><li>The Guide contains </li></ul><ul><ul><li>course descriptions, as well as any course prerequisites needed to gain entry to that course </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>instructions on how to apply </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>information about participating institutions </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>an areas of study index </li></ul></ul>
    11. 11. GETTING THERE <ul><li>UAC </li></ul><ul><li>Can have up to 9 preferences with one application </li></ul><ul><li>See UAC Guide or UAC website </li></ul>
    12. 12. How to apply <ul><li>All applicants must apply online using Apply-By-Web </li></ul><ul><li>You must supply an email address </li></ul><ul><li>Processing charge </li></ul><ul><li>Can pay by credit card (MasterCard or Visa), PayPal, BPay and Australia Post’s BillPay </li></ul><ul><li>PayPal allows you to transfer funds safely over the internet from your bank account to UAC </li></ul>
    13. 13. What you need to apply <ul><li>Your Board of Studies student number </li></ul><ul><li>Your UAC PIN – for NSW and ACT students this will be posted to you by UAC in early August (note that it is separate to your Board of Studies PIN) </li></ul><ul><li>You will receive your 9 digit UAC application number when you apply – for NSW students your UAC application number will be a ‘1’ followed by your Board of Studies student number </li></ul>
    14. 14. <ul><li>UAC TIMELINE 2011/2012 </li></ul><ul><li>Applying </li></ul><ul><li>AUGUST – Applications Open </li></ul><ul><li>SEPTEMBER 30 2011 – On-time applications close </li></ul><ul><li>FEBRUARY 2 2012 – Last of the late applications close – late fees apply </li></ul><ul><li>Receiving Results </li></ul><ul><li>DECEMBER 14 2011 – NSW Board of Studies results e-released </li></ul><ul><li>DECEMBER 15 2011 – ATARs e-released </li></ul>
    15. 15. GETTING THERE <ul><li>Some courses MAY NOT be added in after the closing date in September </li></ul>Some courses require the student to jump through extra hoops – just applying through UAC is NOT enough – auditions, questionnaires, UMAT, etc
    16. 16. GETTING THERE <ul><li>Applicants are NOT LOCKED IN until the very last date allowed for a change of preferences (1st February 2012) </li></ul>
    17. 17. GETTING THERE <ul><li>Interstate application procedures are similar – act independently of each other – each require a payment e.g. QTAC is Queensland, VTAC is Victoria </li></ul><ul><li>QTAC allows: </li></ul><ul><li>Only 6 choices </li></ul><ul><li>3 free changes of preferences </li></ul><ul><li>SATAC and TISC (Western Australia) </li></ul>
    18. 18. GETTING THERE <ul><li>Can you get in with a ATAR less than the minimum required as stated in the UAC Book? </li></ul>
    19. 19. Bonus points Newcastle – 4 Southern Cross Uni – 5 Charles Sturt Uni – 5 Wollongong - 3 Special Entry Schemes – STAR Scheme at SCU , Early Entry at UNE, PREP at CSU, Early Achievers at ACU; Early Entry at UOW Applications usually close mid September some courses are earlier. Notification is late November / early December. Courses requiring a special application process Medicine. Creative & Performing Arts – auditions, portfolios. Others – questionnaire, test . Excellent result in a particular relevant HSC subject
    20. 20. Educational Access Schemes (EAS) <ul><li>For students who have suffered long-term educational disadvantage </li></ul><ul><li>Students must demonstrate that performance during Years 11 and 12 has been seriously affected by circumstances beyond their control </li></ul><ul><li>EAS booklets (with application forms) distributed early August 2011, can also be downloaded from UAC’s website </li></ul>
    21. 21. Educational Access Schemes (EAS) <ul><li>On-time closing date - Wednesday 30 September 2011 </li></ul><ul><li>Applications are detailed and require supporting documentation so allow plenty of time to prepare and complete your EAS application </li></ul>
    22. 22. Educational Access Schemes (EAS) <ul><li>Examples of disadvantage: </li></ul><ul><li>Disrupted schooling </li></ul><ul><li>Home environment/responsibilities </li></ul><ul><li>English language </li></ul><ul><li>Personal illness/disability </li></ul><ul><li>Refugee status </li></ul>
    23. 23. GETTING THERE - Offers <ul><li>Receiving an offer </li></ul><ul><li>October and November Rounds </li></ul><ul><li>Early Round Offers – December 8 2011 </li></ul><ul><li>Preliminary Round – January 4 2012 </li></ul><ul><li>Main Round – January 18 2012 </li></ul><ul><li>Late Round – February 1 2012 </li></ul><ul><li>Final Round – February 8 2012 </li></ul>
    24. 24. Accepting your offer <ul><li>Accept your offer by the due date otherwise it could lapse </li></ul><ul><li>If you receive an offer in a subsequent offer round and wish to proceed with that offer, you will have to accept your second offer and withdraw from your first </li></ul>
    25. 25. Deferment <ul><li>Each institution has shown its own policy </li></ul><ul><li>Follow instructions in offer letter </li></ul><ul><li>Deferred place is guaranteed </li></ul><ul><li>Usually apply the following year through UAC (not all universities require this) </li></ul><ul><li>Can list other courses above deferred course </li></ul><ul><li>If an offer is made to a higher preference, the deferred course will lapse </li></ul>
    26. 26. <ul><li>University Offers for Year 12 </li></ul><ul><li>Students 2010 </li></ul><ul><li>25 - 30% are offered places at U of Newcastle </li></ul><ul><li>30 - 35% are offered places in universities in Sydney </li></ul><ul><li>20 - 25% are offered places at CSU, SCU and UNE </li></ul><ul><li>8 – 10% are offered places at Griffith University or </li></ul><ul><li>Queensland universities. </li></ul><ul><li>10 - 15% are made offers in Preliminary/Early </li></ul><ul><li>80 - 85% are made offers in The Main Round </li></ul><ul><li>5 - 10% are made offers in Late/Final Rounds </li></ul>
    27. 27. GETTING THERE (EVENTUALLY) <ul><li>Taking a ‘GAP’ Year </li></ul><ul><li>“ I didn’t get the ATAR that I needed….” </li></ul>
    28. 28. “ I didn’t get the ATAR that I needed” <ul><li>Apply for a related or similar course that requires a lesser ATAR </li></ul><ul><li>Enrol in a Private College or TAFE course </li></ul><ul><li>Apply (earlier) for Special Schemes </li></ul>
    29. 29. “ I didn’t get the ATAR that I needed” <ul><li>Special Foundation courses or Preparation courses </li></ul><ul><li>Open Universities Australia </li></ul><ul><li>Trade Apprenticeships </li></ul>
    30. 30. SURVIVING THERE <ul><li>HECS-HELP – Higher Education Contribution Scheme / Higher Education Loan Program </li></ul><ul><li>CSP – Commonwealth Supported Place </li></ul><ul><li>Your HECS debt (if you decide to defer the </li></ul><ul><li>payment) depends upon the TYPE of course </li></ul><ul><li>that you wish to do Uni. </li></ul>
    31. 31. SURVIVNG THERE CAN BE PAID UP-FRONT (20% DISCOUNT), OR DEFERRED Band Student contribution ranges $ for 2011 Band 3 (Law, Dentistry, Medicine, Vet Science, Accounting, Administration, Economics, Commerce) 0 - 9080 Band 2 (Computing, Built Environment, Health, Engineering, Surveying, Agriculture.) 0 – 7756 Band 1 (Humanities, Arts, Behavioural Science, Social Studies, Languages, Visual and Performing Arts, Education and Nursing) 0 – 5422 National Priorities ( Mathematics, Statistics and Science) 0 – 4385
    32. 32. SURVIVING THERE <ul><li>What you have to be earning at present before you start paying back your HEC’s bill </li></ul><ul><li>= $45,114 </li></ul><ul><li>Repayments commence at 4% and gradually increase to a maximum of 8% once you reach $83,408. </li></ul>
    33. 33. SURVIVING THERE <ul><li>Other expenses to consider are meals, textbooks, accommodation, etc </li></ul><ul><li>Sydney University publishes the following guide to living costs per week for first year students. </li></ul>
    34. 34. SURVIVING THERE <ul><li>LIVING COSTS / WEEK: </li></ul><ul><li>Rent ~ $150 ($110 - $250) </li></ul><ul><li>Food ~ $90 </li></ul><ul><li>Electricity, gas, water ~ $10 - 20 </li></ul><ul><li>Internet ~ $5 – 15 </li></ul><ul><li>Textbooks ~ $10 – 20 depending on course ($350 to $850) up front. </li></ul><ul><li>Photocopying ~ 20c per page </li></ul><ul><li>Travel $25 </li></ul><ul><li>Others (laundry, etc)………… </li></ul>
    35. 35. SURVIVING THERE <ul><li>Accommodation </li></ul>Example 1 : self-catering at Southern Cross University, Lismore – ranging from $129/week ($5160 for entire academic year (40 weeks) at ORION COLLEGE (fully furnished single study bedrooms). Example 2 : Earle Page College, U.N.E -$287/week ($11480/year (21 meals per week, own study bedroom and lots of care).
    36. 36. ACCOMMODATION CENTRE Single Room with Private Ensuite
    37. 37. Accommodation (cont’d) <ul><li>Example 3 : 3 bedroom house in Leichardt. Close to transport and shopping. Spacious living areas, 1 bathroom, 1 car space ... $400 per week ( </li></ul><ul><li>Example 4 : Evatt House, Newcastle - $144/week - self catering, fully furnished private bedroom study, shared facilities. </li></ul>
    39. 39. HALLS OF RESIDENCE Shared Amenities
    40. 40. SURVIVING THERE <ul><li>Check UAC Guide or university website for procedures and timelines regarding applications to live on campus… </li></ul><ul><li>be early! </li></ul><ul><li>* Charles Sturt University - you can not apply for on-campus accommodation until you have been made an offer – still be early. </li></ul>
    41. 41. SURVIVING THERE <ul><li>Student Loans </li></ul><ul><li>(major banks) </li></ul><ul><li>Scholarships </li></ul><ul><li>- Institutional </li></ul><ul><li>- Industry-sponsored </li></ul><ul><li>- Regional </li></ul><ul><li>- Sporting </li></ul><ul><li>The following are related to Youth Allowance and administered by Centrelink: </li></ul><ul><li>- Student Start-up Scholarship – $2194 in 2012 </li></ul><ul><li>- Relocation Scholarships for accommodation costs: valued at $4 124 pa in 2012, $1 031 , $1 031 and $1 031. (indexed annually) </li></ul>APPLY !! APPLY !! APPLY !!
    42. 42. SURVIVING THERE <ul><li>SCHOLARSHIPS </li></ul><ul><li>Check individual university web sites or go to </li></ul><ul><li>YOUTH ALLOWANCE </li></ul><ul><li>The best advice is to phone Centrelink to check your eligibility/entitlements . </li></ul>
    43. 44. SURVIVING THERE <ul><li>Happy </li></ul><ul><li>Success </li></ul><ul><li> Environment </li></ul><ul><li>Be well-informed </li></ul><ul><li>Visit the campus if possible </li></ul><ul><li>- University Open Days </li></ul>Camden Haven Careers Expo Camden Haven High July 28, 11.15am
    44. 45. SURVIVING THERE <ul><li>Open Days - hand out available in your packages </li></ul>
    45. 47. Getting the information across.... <ul><li>Careers Email Alerts </li></ul>
    46. 48. Finally, remember to ….. <ul><li>Read course descriptions in UAC Guide </li></ul><ul><li>Attend uni open days, talk to uni students </li></ul><ul><li>Use last year’s ATAR cut-offs only as an indication of possible cut-offs for 2012 </li></ul><ul><li>Include up to 9 course preferences (at least 5) - check for additional selection criteria, early closing dates </li></ul><ul><li>Place course preferences in the order you want to study them </li></ul><ul><li>Have realistic expectations of your academic ability </li></ul>
    47. 49. What can you do? <ul><li>Talk about your own experiences of career decisions </li></ul><ul><li>Value any differences </li></ul><ul><li>Be a positive role model </li></ul><ul><li>Challenge stereotypes </li></ul><ul><li>Prepare them for decision-making </li></ul><ul><li>Encourage employability skills such as punctuality and reliability </li></ul><ul><li>Plan “B” </li></ul>
    48. 50. Our Guests <ul><li>Kym Burton (University of New England) </li></ul><ul><li>Meeghan McHugh (Southern Cross University) </li></ul><ul><li>Fran Dwyer (Charles Sturt University) </li></ul>
    49. 51. MacKillop Senior College SUCCESSFUL TRANSITIONS to UNIVERSITY 2011