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  • MS State University . . . 4-H as a tool to develop youngsters . . . Confidence, responsibility, goal-setting. Especially noticeable plus for those who want to become veterinarians (animal health foundation, horse handling)
  • These questions must be asked BEFORE you determine how much you’ll spend on training or lessons. These are fundamental questions to ask prior to the search.
  • Know when to push the horse, know when to back off. Too much “push” to get horse working just as bad as too little. Facing off horses on jumps, e.g., or overworking horses. (Knowledge: tell story about overworking pony at full speed in heat of day during summer, then just “putting her away”_ Knowledge: recognize normal vs. abnormal, how to handle situations (tell story of horse eating a whole bale of hay and owner forbidding it to drink water)
  • Beware taking too many undefined liberties . . . COMMUNICATE!! Also make sure to designate if the lease has an option to purchase or right of first refusal if horse is sold.
  • Of sufficient heights to “take up the rider’s leg” for maximal rider stability/match of partners
  • Match ability of horse with ability of rider, in REVERSE. A VERY advanced/trained horse will do well with a green rider and vice versa. Don’t just take the word of seller that animal is a good “prospect” for jumping . . . SEE WHY they are a good prospect.
  • Some ads will state no minors should inquire. Others insist on “serious inquiries only.” Don’t waste people’s time!
  • Conformation not important unless lameness issues. Drugs can mask lameness or attitude issues.
  • Weird handling techniques, odd equipment, strange reactions of horse—sore back, nippy, other odd behaviors . . .
  • IMPARTIAL Vet: No interest in the horse. Represents the buyer. BEWARE!! The 5D’s (American Association of Equine Practitioners, 12/09—Soule). No standard for tests to do for a PPE in America. Britain did set that list. PPE results may lower price (e.g., arthritis) or may call for consideration of a lease, rather than buy situation.
  • List any stipulations about return of horse, unsuitability, trial periods, etc. Detail all expectations in leases . . . Who covers hoof care, vet bills, can horse leave property? . . .
  • Suitable4 h project horse1.11

    1. 1. Mount Up! Finding a Suitable 4-H Project Horse Elaine Long Bailey Calvert County 4-H Educator University of Maryland Extension
    2. 2. The 4-H horse project is about <ul><ul><li>Youth development </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Learning life skills </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Responsibility </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Teamwork </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Patience </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Conflict resolution </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Goal setting </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Horses are the conduit to promote PYD </li></ul></ul>
    3. 3. What are your 4-H goals? <ul><ul><li>Learn about horses* </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Become a proficient jumper </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Be the fastest barrel racer </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Ride and show </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Spend time with friends who enjoy horses </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>BE SAFE!! </li></ul></ul>
    4. 4. Basic Questions <ul><ul><li>Where will my horse live? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>What is my budget? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>For keeping my horse </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>For purchasing or leasing my horse </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Do I buy a horse? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Should I lease a horse? </li></ul></ul>
    5. 5. COSTS <ul><li>No free horses </li></ul><ul><li>Board $2400-$8000 </li></ul><ul><li>Facilities (fences, barn, shed, pasture establishment & maintenance, etc.)* </li></ul><ul><li>Feed $12+/bag </li></ul><ul><li>Vaccinations * $150-$250 </li></ul><ul><li>Hoof care $800+ </li></ul><ul><li>Tack $800+ </li></ul>
    6. 6. BEFORE you start . . . <ul><li>Be HONEST with yourself </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Horses require TIME </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Do you have the resources that you need? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Budget </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Trainer </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>What is your riding ability? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>What is your knowledge level? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Who will you consult for help? </li></ul></ul>
    7. 7. Advantages of Leases <ul><li>Typically a shorter term commitment </li></ul><ul><li>May determine true “fit” of horse and rider </li></ul><ul><li>May be less expensive </li></ul><ul><li>Potential for win-win situation </li></ul><ul><li>DEFINE ALL aspects of agreement! </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Costs (feed, board, vet, farrier, etc.) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Insurance </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Haul horse off property </li></ul></ul>
    8. 8. Finding the Right Equine Partner <ul><li>Let’s Begin . . . </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Define what you’re looking for BEFORE beginning the search </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Breed or gaits </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Gender </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Height </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Age </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Abilities (relates to YOUR goals) </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Temperament </li></ul></ul></ul>
    9. 9. The Specs <ul><li>Breed or gaits </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Sometimes relates to goals </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Beware limiting yourself </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Gender </li></ul><ul><ul><li>No stallions in 4-H events </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Mares can be mares </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Select the INDIVIDUAL </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Height </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Ponies may be rapidly outgrown </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Too far to the ground </li></ul></ul>
    10. 10. Age & Abilities <ul><li>Age </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Youngsters don’t “grow up well” together </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Some advocate 5 yr old minimum; others 10+ </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>NOTE: Aged horse is NOT same as EASY horse </li></ul></ul><ul><li>SEE horse do whatever you aspire to do with it </li></ul><ul><li>Beware “prospects” </li></ul>
    11. 11. What is Temperament? <ul><li>How they “go with the flow” </li></ul><ul><li>Tendency to tolerate a variety of situations with ease </li></ul><ul><li>Important if take horse taken into high-energy situations with lots of external stimulation </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Shows </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Gymkhana </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Fairs </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Parades </li></ul></ul>
    12. 12. Places to Find Horses. . . <ul><li>Horse Friends </li></ul><ul><li>Reputable Trainers </li></ul><ul><li>4-H leaders &/or Educators </li></ul><ul><li>Publications </li></ul><ul><li>Online </li></ul>
    13. 13. Pre-visit Evaluations: READ, READ, READ! <ul><li>What can you learn from the ads? </li></ul><ul><li>Key Words . . . What’s important to you! </li></ul><ul><li>Don’t inquire if </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Not what you’re looking for </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Out of your price range* </li></ul></ul>
    14. 14. The Message in the Wording of Ads <ul><li>Age, Height, Breed . . . </li></ul><ul><li>“ Prospect. . . ” </li></ul><ul><li>“ Well-suited for . . .” </li></ul><ul><li>“ Experienced . . . “ </li></ul><ul><li>“ Green . . . “ </li></ul><ul><li>“ Bombproof . . . “ </li></ul><ul><li>“ Half Paint. . .” (almost PUREBRED)? </li></ul>
    15. 15. Read, Set, Go! <ul><li>Refer to Fact Sheet #819, “Horse Shopping? Better Ask Some Questions” </li></ul><ul><li>Guide through process </li></ul><ul><li>Remember: some questions can be answered from OBSERVATION. </li></ul>
    16. 16. What is important? <ul><li>BEWARE </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Drugged animals* </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Filed teeth </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Dyed hair </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Fraudulent registration papers </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Color? NO </li></ul><ul><li>Manners? YES </li></ul><ul><li>Disposition? YES </li></ul><ul><li>Conformation? YES/NO* </li></ul>
    17. 17. When you arrive . . . <ul><li>First impression of farm </li></ul><ul><li>Are animals well tended? </li></ul><ul><li>How does horse act when approached? </li></ul><ul><li>Who handles the horse? </li></ul><ul><li>Casual conversation </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Why selling? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>How long have you owned the horse? </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Trust your instincts!! </li></ul>
    18. 18. Some cardinal rules <ul><li>Owner ride the horse FIRST! </li></ul><ul><li>SAFETY!! </li></ul><ul><li>Observe* </li></ul><ul><li>If something is curious, ASK about it! </li></ul><ul><li>Visit and try the horse multiple times before you buy! </li></ul>
    19. 19. The First Ride—Be Equipped! <ul><li>Helmet </li></ul><ul><li>Boots </li></ul><ul><li>?Your own saddle? </li></ul><ul><li>Ride in a SAFE area </li></ul><ul><ul><li>No obstacles </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Enclosed area, if possible </li></ul></ul>
    20. 20. Pre-purchase Exam or Not? <ul><li>Wide range of costs </li></ul><ul><li>$200-$2000+ (how detailed process is) </li></ul><ul><li>D iscover major problems </li></ul><ul><li>D isclose problems </li></ul><ul><li>D ocument findings </li></ul><ul><li>D iscuss impact on goals </li></ul><ul><li>D ecide </li></ul><ul><li>Results of PPE may impact negotiations </li></ul><ul><li>Depends on value of animal </li></ul><ul><li>Your budget </li></ul><ul><li>Risk management </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Asset </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Liability </li></ul></ul><ul><li>No promises from PPE </li></ul><ul><li>No pass or fail . . . Just “serviceable” or not </li></ul>
    21. 21. The Paperwork <ul><li>Sales agreement* </li></ul><ul><li>Lease contract* </li></ul><ul><li>Define expectations </li></ul><ul><li>Get registration papers at purchase </li></ul><ul><li>Transfer registration papers ASAP after purchase </li></ul>
    22. 22. Additional Concerns <ul><li>Find help if needed </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Trainer </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>4-H Leader </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>4-H Educator </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Fear factor </li></ul><ul><li>Find a “good fit” in your equine partner </li></ul><ul><li>ENJOY!! </li></ul>
    23. 23. My contact info: Elaine Long Bailey [email_address] Good luck!!