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Whats Wrong With Gay Marriage

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This presentation examines the subject of gay marriage as well as the pro-gay theology movement

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  • gbswales Clive Richards, eLearning Manager Swansea University at http://swwhep.ac.uk religion and the concept of unchaging deity are simply props that people need to help them try and explain the unexplainable - interesting that we use something unexplainable to explain the unexplainable!

    By nature we are sexual beings and this sexuality does not stay naturally within rigid confines and the definition of what is and is not acceptable at any point in time is a decision mankind has taken - things which are acceptable and normal in some countries are not seen that way in others - even between states in the USA there are vast differences

    Religious belief in my view is something you hold personally and not something you have a duty to inflict on others - you say for example you are not monogomous by nature but choose to live that way - fine but that does not make others who choose not to live that way - wrong? Meanings of words change too as you have have pointed out with the example 'Tolerance' which now has more than one meaning - as words change, people change, life changes. There was a time when infant mortality was so high that people needed to be encourgaged to procreate - but now the opposite is true - we need to drastically reduce procreation if our planet is to survive - same sex relationships in my view are a very natural way in which to reduce unecessary procreation.
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  • schumacr Robin Schumacher, Vice President at Software company guest44b1e - thanks for your comments. Some clarifications on some points I think you've missed: when I cite robbery, kidnap, rape, etc., with respect to 2 or more adults I refer to the criminals themselves - e.g. 2 or more consenting adults agreeing to kidnap someone.

    Second, there is indeed a split between what we are and choose to do. I am certainly not a naturally monogamous man - I wish I was, however I'm not. However, I *choose* to live in a monogamous relationship with my wife under God's standards. And with respect to being legal, you confuse what people do vs. what people ought to do.

    Finally, on tolerance: did you know the term - before it was twisted to be the politically-correct term it is today - is a scientific word? It refers to how far you can take a 'system' (e.g. a bridge, car engine, etc.) away from what's true, good, and right before it breaks. And do you tolerate everything - e.g. sex between adults and children? If not, why not? How do you justify the moral boundaries you draw and condemn the ones Christians speak about? Lastly, your view that God is 'the combined spirit of all people' - what evidence do you have for that belief?

    Thanks again.
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  • guest44bf1e guest44bf1e It is always impossible (almost) to argue against belief. However the creator of this has cleverly manipulated things to paint a negative picture. There are many but I will cite just one example - in answer to 'what two consenting adults do is right' the author cites robbery, kindnap and rape - all of which involve in some way third parties and so are not about 'what is done in private between two people'. Rape is between two people but of course here the 'consenting' does not apply. Of couse I would expect a 'christian' to condemn prostitution in this as well - albeit I would argue that again is a matter of personal choice.
    I dont see a split between what we are and what we choose to do - we are what we are and also make lifestyle choices. Now christians get a grip - the argument is not about whether homosexuality should be legal - that battle was won in most civilised countries years ago but about a logical extension to that outcome.
    You say somewhere that 'we are not animals' and yet argue that God expects to partner for procreation (just like most animals) - Partnership and marriage is about much more than that for many people. Christians should learn tolerance - because you may feel your marriage is something belonging to god - many of us dont see it that way and want a marriage born of man.
    Of course I am not a Christian and believe that 'god' is in fact 'the combined spirit of all people' but I dont go waving banners in front of churches condemming what I see as idolitary and a bad influence.
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