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  1. 1. M.D., P.A., P.T., O.T., OH MY! Which Pre Health Options Are Right For Your Students? <ul><li> WELCOME! </li></ul><ul><li>Your Facilitators : </li></ul><ul><li>Melissa Jones & Jeff Morales </li></ul><ul><ul><li> U niversity of F lorida </li></ul></ul>
  2. 2. So your student would like to have a career in health care… <ul><li>Fantastic! </li></ul><ul><li>They are attending a great institution </li></ul><ul><li>Strong faculty </li></ul><ul><li>Committed staff members who want to see them succeed </li></ul><ul><li>Excellent peer group </li></ul><ul><li>Numerous campus resources </li></ul>
  3. 3. Should becoming an M.D. be the only career path that they can plan for? <ul><li>NO! </li></ul>
  4. 4. Reasons not to pursue a career in medicine: <ul><li>They want to play god </li></ul><ul><li>Grey’s Anatomy & </li></ul><ul><li>company </li></ul><ul><li>Roommate/Campus culture </li></ul><ul><li>“ It’s the best career” </li></ul><ul><li>$$$ </li></ul><ul><li>Moving beyond: </li></ul><ul><li>“ I want to help people” </li></ul><ul><li>“ I have wanted this since </li></ul><ul><li> I can remember.” </li></ul>
  5. 5. Their parents want them to. They want to make their parents proud. <ul><li>“ I don't know if I was a natural. I did practice. I just had fun. </li></ul><ul><li>I never had pressure from my parents to play the game. </li></ul><ul><li>They were always very supportive and they helped me and things worked out pretty well.” - Camilo Villegas </li></ul><ul><li> (Pro golfer & UF grad) </li></ul>
  6. 6. Why do some M.D. aspirations not come to fruition? <ul><li>Challenging science courses </li></ul><ul><ul><li> “ Orgo” </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Transcript </li></ul><ul><li>MCAT score </li></ul><ul><li>Cost </li></ul><ul><li>Timeline </li></ul><ul><li>Family </li></ul><ul><li>Lifestyle </li></ul><ul><li>Overall application competitiveness </li></ul>
  7. 7. The “So I want to be an M.D.” Advising Session <ul><li>“ Why do you want to become a </li></ul><ul><ul><li>physician?” </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>They should be SPECIFIC . Stating that they like “helping people” is not good enough. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>What is their motivation? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Have they ever shadowed a physician before? </li></ul></ul>
  8. 8. “ So I want to be an M.D.” cont… <ul><li>How are they demonstrating they are competitive? </li></ul><ul><li>Coursework Selection </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Are they avoiding taking multiple science courses in each term? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><ul><li>• What grades are they getting in the sciences? </li></ul></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Credit Hours: Are they trying to avoid a heavy course load? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Taking a lot of “fluff courses” to boost their overall GPA </li></ul></ul>
  9. 9. “ So I want to be an M.D.” cont… <ul><ul><li>GPA </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>What is their overall GPA? </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>What is their Science/Math GPA? </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Are they failing courses? </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Withdrawing from courses? </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Median competitive GPA: 3.5 </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Median competitive Science GPA: 3.6 </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>UF ; Overall GPA Median: 3.82 </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>UF ; Overall Science GPA Median: 3.80 </li></ul></ul></ul>
  10. 10. “ So I want to be an M.D.” cont… <ul><ul><li>Volunteering/Community involvement </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Are they putting in quality hours? </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Do they find community involvement important? </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Campus involvement </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Are they involved in any </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>organizations? </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Why or Why not? </li></ul></ul></ul></ul>
  11. 11. “ So I want to be an M.D.” cont… <ul><li>Students who show little interest in volunteering or are not sure why they should volunteer, should question their interests in health care </li></ul><ul><li>High test scores and a great GPA are not an automatic green light for medical schools </li></ul><ul><li>Students need to show they care </li></ul>
  12. 12. “ So I want to be an M.D.” cont… <ul><li>Are they interested in participating in research? </li></ul><ul><li>Not required, but encouraged </li></ul>
  13. 13. “ So I want to be an M.D.” cont… <ul><li>You will meet students who are interested in helping others in a health related field but may not be particularly interested in: </li></ul><ul><li>taking copious courses in upper division empirical sciences </li></ul><ul><li>completing almost part-time work hours in volunteering experiences </li></ul><ul><li>Working numerous hours on scientific </li></ul><ul><li>research </li></ul><ul><li>Joining scores of clubs/organizations </li></ul><ul><li>Participating in international mission trips </li></ul><ul><li>Impressing their roommates </li></ul><ul><li>Becoming the “perfect” med school </li></ul><ul><li>applicant </li></ul><ul><li>Curing Cancer </li></ul>
  14. 14. <ul><li>“ Approaches to assisting with career choices should emphasize personal responsibility and empowerment to enable independent, purposeful, deliberate, rewarding, and attainable goals”. - Seligman, L. (1994) </li></ul><ul><li> Academic Advising: A Comprehensive Handbook ., 2000.,27. </li></ul>
  15. 15. Perception of being a “Dream crusher” <ul><li>“ I don’t care what you say, I will become a doctor.” </li></ul><ul><li>Cultural sensitivity concerns </li></ul><ul><li>“ But I really want to become a … </li></ul><ul><li>Working with the one track pre health perception: M.D. or nothing </li></ul>DOCTOR!
  16. 16. Yes, there are other health related careers besides the M.D.! <ul><li>It’s OK if they change their minds </li></ul><ul><li>Dreams can change! </li></ul>It does not have to be M.D. or bust
  17. 17. Should they also plan for additional healthcare path options… <ul><li>YES! </li></ul><ul><li>Where do they start? </li></ul>
  18. 18. Some of these professions may include: <ul><li>Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.) </li></ul><ul><li>Physician Assistant </li></ul><ul><li>Nursing </li></ul><ul><li>Physical/Occupational Therapy </li></ul><ul><li>Pharmacist </li></ul><ul><li>Podiatrist </li></ul><ul><li>Anesthesiologist Assistant </li></ul><ul><li>Audiologist </li></ul><ul><li>Optometrist </li></ul><ul><li>Vascular Sonographer </li></ul><ul><li>Hospital Administrator </li></ul><ul><li>Researcher in the sciences </li></ul><ul><li>Public Health Administrator </li></ul><ul><li>Chiropractor </li></ul>
  19. 19. M.D. OR D.O. … Hmmm <ul><li>Allopathic medicine – M.D. </li></ul><ul><li>The system of medical practice which treats disease by the use of conventional remedies which produce effects different from those produced by the disease under treatment. M.D.s practice allopathic medicine. </li></ul>
  20. 20. The D.O. <ul><li>Osteopathic medicine is a profession that recognizes the relationship between the musculoskeletal organic function, diet, exercise, and fitness. </li></ul><ul><li>MCAT required </li></ul>
  21. 21. Osteopathic Medicine <ul><li>The osteopathic model is comprehensive and holistic and demands that its practitioners possess both humanitarian and intellectual qualities . It encourages a broad educational background both the sciences and humanities. </li></ul>
  22. 22. Osteopathic Medicine <ul><li>While both the M.D. and the D.O. are trained in all aspects of patient care, D.O.s offer a distinctly holistic approach to medicine. </li></ul><ul><li>Andrew Taylor Still, M.D. </li></ul>
  23. 23. <ul><li>WWW.AACOM.ORG </li></ul>
  24. 24. Physician Assistants <ul><li>What do they do? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Practice medicine under the supervision of physicians and surgeons; formally trained to take medical histories, examine and treat patients, prescribe medicine, order and interpret lab results and X-rays, and make diagnoses. </li></ul></ul>
  25. 25. Physician Assistants <ul><li>Training : Many (but not all) PA programs require a Bachelors degree before beginning their program. Most PA programs are 24-26 month programs. Must pass licensure exam to practice </li></ul><ul><li>Job Outlook : Very good – expected to grow 27% through 2016 </li></ul><ul><li>Earnings : $74,980 (median annual earnings) </li></ul><ul><li>data gathered from US Department of Labor – Bureau of Labor Statistics </li></ul>
  26. 26. Physical Therapists <ul><li>What do they do? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Help restore function, improve mobility, relieve pain. Restore, maintain, and promote overall fitness and health. Patients often include accident victims and </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>individuals with </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>disabling conditions. </li></ul></ul>
  27. 27. Physical Therapists <ul><li>Training : Master’s or Doctoral program </li></ul><ul><li> (2-4.5 years) Must pass licensure exam before you can practice. </li></ul><ul><li>Job Outlook : very good – expected to grow 27% through 2016 </li></ul><ul><li>Earnings : $66,200 – (median annual earnings) </li></ul><ul><li>data gathered from US Department of Labor – Bureau of Labor Statistics </li></ul>
  28. 28. Occupational Therapists <ul><li>What do they do? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Help people improve their ability to perform tasks in their daily living and working environments. Patients include individuals with conditions that are mentally, physically, developmentally, or emotionally disabling. </li></ul></ul>
  29. 29. Occupational Therapists <ul><li>Training : As of 2007, a master’s degree in Occupational Therapy or higher will be required (2-6 years). Must pass national certification exam for licensure </li></ul><ul><li>Job Outlook : very good – expected to grow 23% through 2016 </li></ul><ul><li>Earnings : $60,470 – (median annual earnings ) </li></ul><ul><li>data gathered from US Department of Labor – Bureau of Labor Statistics </li></ul>
  30. 30. It’s more than just bunions & toe nails <ul><li>Podiatric Medicine – </li></ul><ul><li>is a branch of the medical sciences concerned with the diagnosis and treatment of the conditions affecting the human foot, ankle, and their governing and related structures </li></ul><ul><li>Yes, they are doctors </li></ul><ul><li>Surgical training is a </li></ul><ul><li>standard aspect of the field </li></ul>
  31. 31. Registered Nurses <ul><li>What do they do? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Registered Nurses perform basic duties such as treating patients, educating patients, and providing advice and emotional support to patients and their family members. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>They also record medical histories, </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>help to perform diagnostic tests, </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>and administer treatment and </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>medications. </li></ul></ul>
  32. 32. Registered Nurses <ul><li>Training : There are 3 paths to registered nursing: bachelor’s of science in nursing (BSN) , associate degree in nursing (ADN), and a diploma. </li></ul><ul><li>Job Outlook : Excellent – expected to grow 23% through 2016. </li></ul><ul><li>Earnings : $57,280 (median annual earnings) </li></ul><ul><li>Data gathered from US Department of Labor – Bureau of Labor Statistics </li></ul>
  33. 33. Advanced Practice Nurses <ul><li>Who are they and what do they do? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Clinical Nurse Specialists – provide direct patient care and expert consultations </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Nurse Anesthetists – administer anesthesia and monitor patients’ vital signs during surgery </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Nurse Midwives – provide primary care to women (gynecological care, prenatal care, assistance in labor & delivery) </li></ul></ul>
  34. 34. Advanced Practice Nurses <ul><li>Who are they and what do they do? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Nurse Practitioners – provide basic preventive health care, serve as primary care providers in </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>mainly medically </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>underserved areas. </li></ul></ul>
  35. 35. Advanced Practice Nurses <ul><li>Training : all 4 advanced practice nursing specialties require at least a master’s degree. Most programs last 2 years and require a BSN degree. </li></ul><ul><li>Job Outlook : Excellent - expected to grow 23% through 2016. </li></ul><ul><li>Earnings : $81,397- up 55% since 1997! </li></ul><ul><li> (NP average – from journal ADVANCE for Nurse Practitioners) </li></ul><ul><li>Data gathered from US Department of Labor – Bureau of Labor Statistics </li></ul>
  36. 36. International Medical Schools <ul><li>The Caribbean </li></ul><ul><ul><li>St. George University , Grenada </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>American University of the Caribbean , </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>St. Martin </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Ross University , Dominica </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Saba University School of Medicine, Island of Saba </li></ul></ul>
  37. 37. International Medical Schools <ul><li>Europe – Students not specifically trained for American medical qualifying exams, i.e., the U nited S tates M edical L icensing E xamination. </li></ul><ul><li>Others … </li></ul><ul><ul><li>There are a myriad of other, costly, and for profit, medical schools around the world. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Students should be careful when considering these schools, and they should ask a lot of questions. </li></ul></ul>
  38. 38. One more thing… <ul><li>If your student is not accepted into medical school, what will he or she now do with their major? </li></ul><ul><li>- Do they really want to be a microbiologist or a chemist? </li></ul><ul><li>- Are they really interested in working with Petri dishes and Bunsen burners all day? </li></ul>
  39. 39. How do I find out about those other choices? <ul><li>EXPLORE !!! </li></ul><ul><li>EXPLORE !!! </li></ul><ul><li>EXPLORE !!! </li></ul>
  40. 40. <ul><li>GET THEM GOING… </li></ul><ul><li>Volunteer or work at a local hospital or clinic. </li></ul><ul><li>Talk to a family member or family friend currently in a health care field. </li></ul><ul><li>Shadow </li></ul><ul><li>Do research on the internet. </li></ul><ul><ul><li>www.explorehealthcareers.org </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Visit UF’s Pre-health website </li></ul><ul><ul><li>www.advising.ufl.edu/ohlpa/prehealth/ </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Join the pre health listserv </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Fall and Spring term Pre Health work shops </li></ul></ul>
  41. 41. Thank You For Coming , Best Wishes, And Remind Your Students, There are Options <ul><li>Contact Information: </li></ul><ul><li>Jeff Morales Melissa Jones </li></ul><ul><li>352-392-1521 352-273-6400 </li></ul><ul><li>[email_address] M fjones@phhp.ufl.edu </li></ul><ul><li>ufl.edu </li></ul>