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Raising Victor Vargas

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DISCUSSION LEADERS: SABRYNE VIDAL AND AMBER JONES

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  • 1. * VICTOR RASUK AS VICTOR * SILVESTRE RASUK AS NINO * KRYSTAL RODRIGUEZ AS VICKI* ALTAGRACIA GUZMAN AS GRANDMA * JUDY MARTE AS “JUICY” JUDY * MELONIE DIAZ AS MELONIE * KEVIN RIVERA AS HAROLD * WILFREE VASQUEZ AS CARLOS* These characters all reside in the Lower East Side of New York City.
  • 2. * Victor could be considered as someone who: * “My name is Vic. This is my associate, Harold. Enjoying the day? Nice day in the pool. Me and my man wanna know if you wanna double-date one day”(Victor) * “What kind of bitches I bag, son? -Come on, nigga. - Dimes, man!”(Victor) * “Let me tell you something. You aint been with a man till you been with me”(Victor) * “You didnt know I was looking at your lips. Do it again. Bang. You see. Keep on doing it because girls always look-- Youre not licking them. You wanna be a "papi chulo" or "papi feo"? -"Papi chulo." -All right. Keep practicing!”(Victor to Nino) * “What you waiting for, playboy? Your dick aint getting any bigger, Yo. Just go! I think youre scared. Yo, Harold. Lets go right now. Fuck that. Come on. ”--Harold to Victor at the pool
  • 3. Keeping a clean and “consistent” reputation seems to be Victor‟sbiggest priority. He takes pride in having slept with severalattractive girls in the neighborhood and becomes threatened whendiscovered with “Fat Donna”.Victor isn‟t the only boy in the neighborhood who pursues this kindof reputation. They‟re all in hot pursuit for an opportunity to sleepwith as many “hotties” they can get with their „skills‟. It seems likethis is some kind of “rite of passage” that boys have developedover time to become men. “Look at Papi, how many wives he have? Like four or five.See what Im saying? Hes a player, man- It runs in our blood. In the"sangre”- Victor to Nino How do you see similarities between Piri‟s rep and Victor‟s rep? How would sleeping with “Fat Donna” make Victor a “punk” according to Piri? Last time with Piri, we mentioned the topic of how he acted on impulse- how can it be related to Victor?
  • 4. Victor is under constant peer pressure from his friendHarold, and the entire “player” community- “Judy Gonzalez?! -Was there any doubt? -You the fucking man. -I dont know what to say. -Congrats. -No doubt. Was there any doubt, son? -No. Aint no doubt about that, baby.” (Victor to buddies) “Get out of here, man. Get the fuck out. I heard youre fucking that fat bitch Donna. -Oh, shit! -Get out of here. Who told you? -Yo, who told you that, man? -Everybody knows. Yo, Harold. Lets go right now. Fuck that. Come on. Yo, you think you even got a chance with her? Shut up, man.” (buddies to Victor) : Why does Victor feel a need to put on an act with friends? Does he possess insecurities??
  • 5. : How do you think the dialogue between Carlos andhttp://www.dailymotion Victor represents the objectification of women?.com/video/xqrzmn_rais Why do you think men feel the need to objectify women? How does this objectification apply to the Latino cultureing-victor-vargas-clip- between relationships, marriages…examples?1_shortfilms#.UTgWGBn How do men tend to assume ownership of women?Zf9I
  • 6. * “Look at this bitch right here. Check this out. Im a producer. Know what Im saying? This is my star, Double Penetration. I will lay the pipe game down hard. I will fuck you in your ass. -My dick aint all that big”- (Guy on the street to Judy)* Which one of yall wanna get fucked in the doody hole? You? Ill fuck you so hard your aunt is gonna feel it. – (Guy by the pool to Judy and Melonie)
  • 7. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqrz mw_raising-victor-vargas-clip- 4_shortfilms#.UTgWPBnZf9IJudy and Melonie differabundantly where Judy hasattention paid to her andMelonie does not. Onceattention is paid towardsMelonie she in return acts inimpulse and sleeps withHarold, do you think thatsome females desire to besexual targets? For whatreasons?
  • 8. All the females in the film are verystrong, and unconventional really. Theydon‟t stay quiet, speak up, and aretough. Judy has never been in a relationship but seems to despise men. How does the community she lives in play a vital role in All the females in the film are how she perceives men? strong women , how do they dictate the direction of the film? Do you think that Victor would have changed, had he not met Judy? How does she impact him?
  • 9. The Grandmother is the sole provider of the family:• The Grandmother has set expectations for Victor that he can not seem to abide by.• She believes Victor is the root of mishap in the family.• This idea comes to light when the Grandmother catches Nino in the bathroom.• Teaches his little brother Nino how to be a “papi chulo” Discussion Question : We see when Grandma gets fed up with Victor , she decides to kick him out. After this incident Victor does a turn around. How does the family relate to masculinity ? What do you think Victor has realized at this point to cause his sudden turn around?
  • 10. Discussion Question: Victor, a young man who plays into thestereotypical act of masculinity teaches his little brother how to be man or in this case “papi chulo”. Is it valid to assert that the act of masculinity is an endless cycle?
  • 11. In the beginning both Judy and Victor weretrying to achieve a personal goal:Judy: To keep the guys away and basically useVictor as bug repellantVictor: To heighten his reputation Discussion Question:What changed their outlooks on one another?What has the power to change the waymasculinity is acted out? Love?
  • 12. * REFERENCES: * Raising Victor Vargas. Dir. Peter Sollett. Perf. Victor Rasuk Judy Marte Melonie Diaz. S GOLD Technicolor Distribution Services, 2002. DVD. * http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqrzmn_rais ing-victor-vargas-clip- 1_shortfilms#.UTgWGBnZf9I * http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqrzmw_rai sing-victor-vargas-clip- 4_shortfilms#.UTgWPBnZf9I