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jQuery is drawing newcomers to JavaSCript in droves. As a community, we have an obligation -- and it is in our interest -- to help these newcomers understand where jQuery ends and JavaScript begins.

jQuery is drawing newcomers to JavaSCript in droves. As a community, we have an obligation -- and it is in our interest -- to help these newcomers understand where jQuery ends and JavaScript begins.

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  • Very nice. I really do think that jQuery encourages questionable design / development practices.

    'Don't know what they don't know' reminds me of this by the way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_known_knowns
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  • This presentation lacks focus. It's premise is that jQuery causes unmaintainable solutions. Then goes on to complain about bad hiring practices, people who use the wrong decision process when selecting tools etc. etc. Typical Straw man argumentation.
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  • Javascript frameworks have to teach you good Patterns you can adopt and use, and not only used for shortcuts.

    Philip Arad - Web Architect at SolarEdge
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  • Is there a set of design patterns for building these apps documented somewhere? It would be great not to have to re-invent the wheel.
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    The jQuery Divide The jQuery Divide Presentation Transcript

    • The jQuery Divide Rebecca Murphey • JSConf.eu • 25.09.2010 @rmurphey • rebeccamurphey.com Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • what this presentation covers how jQuery’s popularity means newcomers learn bad things why I think this is worth talking about at JSConf what I think the larger JavaScript community needs to do about it Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • We need you to help us organize our jQuery-based application. It’s a steaming pile of unmaintainable crap. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • But we want to keep using jQuery. It’s just so easy! And popular! Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • It’s almost guaranteed that the client will point to jQuery’s popularity as a reason to keep using it. It’s also a pretty fair bet what their code will look like. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • var toggleHistItems = function (selTabId) { console.log('Selected Tab ID: ' + selTabId); var curEl = $('#' + selTabId); var bSLTabSelected = $('#slhis').is('[class=left selected]'); $('#divNoRecordMsg').hide(); switch (selTabId) { case 'slhis': $('tr[class^=fk]').show(); $('.cPriceRent').html('Foo/Bar'); rentalRateIsVisible(true); $('#historySortButton').show(); //curEl.addClass('left'); if ($('#historySort1').is(':visible')) { if ($('#fooLeaseHistory > tbody > tr[class^=fk]').length === 0) { if (!$('#divAction1').is(':visible') && !$('#divRSAction1').is(':visible')) { $('#divNoRecordMsg').html('There is no history at this time').show(); } $('#historySortButton').hide(); $('#fooLeaseHistory').slideUp(); } else { $('#fooLeaseHistory').slideDown(); } } else { if ($('#listingDisplay > tbody > tr[class^=fk]').length === 0) { if (!$('#divAction1').is(':visible') && !$('#divRSAction1').is(':visible')) { $('#divNoRecordMsg').html('There is no history at this time').show(); } $('#historySortButton').hide(); $('#listingDisplay').slideUp(); } else { $('#listingDisplay').slideDown(); } } break; case 'shis': rentalRateIsVisible(false); $('#historySortButton').show(); Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Plus that way our database guy can still help us out with the front end. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • *headdesk* Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • “... it turns out that if you have absolutely no idea what you’re doing in the language you can still generally make things work.” Douglas Crockford, Yahoo! http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/video.php?v=crockonjs-2 Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • the morals of the story perceived popularity & perceived ease of use factor into library choice (duh) people who don’t know JS write non-trivial JS apps whether we like it or not there’s a demand for answers to app org questions the people seeking these answers aren’t necessarily dumb, just untrained in JS Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • jQuery meant we didn’t have to understand this ... Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • var xmlhttp; if (window.XMLHttpRequest) { // code for IE7+, Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari xmlhttp=new XMLHttpRequest(); } else { // code for IE6, IE5 xmlhttp=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP"); } xmlhttp.open("POST","ajax_test.asp",true); xmlhttp.setRequestHeader("Content-type","application/x-www- form-urlencoded"); xmlhttp.send("fname=Henry&lname=Ford"); xmlhttp.onreadystatechange = function() { if (xmlhttp.readyState == 4 && xmlhttp.status == 200) { document.getElementById("myDiv").innerHTML = xmlhttp.responseText; } }; Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • we could just write this ... Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • $.post( 'ajax_test.php', { fname : 'Henry', lname : 'Ford' }, function(resp) { $('#myDiv').html(resp); } ); Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • jQuery offers a really clear answer when we need to build this ... Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • $(document).ready(function() { $('#searchForm').submit(function(e) { e.preventDefault(); var myVal = $(this).find('input:first').val(); $.ajax({ url : 'search.php', data : { term : myVal }, dataType : 'json', success : function(resp) { var tpl = '<li><h2>%title</h2><p>%desc</p></li>'; $('#results').html( $.map(resp.results, function(r) { return tpl.replace('%title', r.title).replace('%desc', r.desc); }).join(''); ); } }); }); }); Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • ... which is why we see this ... Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • But when it comes time to create this ... Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • ... it can be hard for the average jQuery developer to see how they might get from the rst version to the second without creating a whole lot of spaghetti code. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • It turns out jQuery’s DOM-centric patterns are a fairly terrible way to think about applications. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Applications require thinking in terms of loosely coupled, DRYed out units of functionality, designed to work with each other without depending on each other. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • require.def('views/Results', [], function() { return Class.extend({ itemTemplate : '<li><h2>%title</h2><p>%desc</p></li>', init : function(el) { this.el = el; $.subscribe('/search/results', $.proxy(this, '_showResults')); }, _showResults : function(results) { var tpl = this.itemTemplate, html = $.map(results, function(r) { return tpl .replace('%title', r.title) .replace('%desc', r.desc); }).join(''); this.el.append(html); } }); }); Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • require.def('views/Results', [], function() { return Class.extend({ itemTemplate : '<li><h2>%title</h2><p>%desc</p></li>', init : function(el) { this.el = el; $.subscribe('/search/results', $.proxy(this, '_showResults')); }, _showResults : function(results) { var tpl = this.itemTemplate, html = $.map(results, function(r) { return tpl .replace('%title', r.title) .replace('%desc', r.desc); omg wtf is this??? }).join(''); this.el.append(html); } }); }); Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • We shouldn’t scold; cartoon client man — and the developers lured to JavaScript by jQuery — don’t know what they don’t know. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Some people i’ve talked to think we or the market should discourage these people from writing code, but that ship has already sailed. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • ey’re writing code whether we like it or not, and it’s not good code. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • is has actual effects on the perception of JavaScript, and on our ability to do interesting things with it. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • In a nutshell, this is what these developers need to learn: Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • JavaScript jQuery Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Companies need developers, and if bad ones are all that’s available, they’ll hire them anyway. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Aaron Newton from Cloudera wrote a post a while back about how hard it is to nd “badass” JavaScript developers. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • e productive reaction to a post like that isn’t to feel superior because you’re a badass JavaScript developer. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • e productive reaction is to gure out how to x it. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • jQuery’s ease has brought us legions of developers who think of an application like this: disparate pieces with few organizing principles; components that are fun but aren’t made to work together. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • We need to turn them into developers who think of applications like this. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • five things to think about Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • #1 popularity contests are stupid Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Making decisions based on this graph ... Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • ... makes as much sense as making decisions based on this graph ... Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • We have to be intellectually honest when we discuss library pros & cons — and vigorous in correcting those who are not. http://xpandapopx.deviantart.com/art/The-Prideful-Hypocrite-68848153 Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • #2 choose tools, not APIs Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • // YUI3 var parent = Y.Node.create('<div/>'), child = Y.Node.create('<p>foo</p>'); child.on('click', fn); parent.appendChild(child); // Dojo var parent = dojo.create('div'), child = dojo.create('p', { innerHTML : 'foo' }); dojo.connect(child, 'click', fn); dojo.place(child, parent); // jQuery var parent = $('<div/>'); $('<p>foo</p>') .click(fn) .appendTo(parent); Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • $(document).ready(function() { $('#searchForm').submit(function(e) { e.preventDefault(); var myVal = $(this).find('input:first').val(); $.ajax({ url : 'search.php', data : { term : myVal }, dataType : 'json', success : function(resp) { var tpl = '<li><h2>%title</h2><p>%desc</p></li>'; $('#results').html( $.map(resp.results, function(r) { return tpl.replace('%title', r.title).replace('%desc', r.desc); }).join(''); ); } }); }); }); Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • (function(d, $) { d.ready(function() { d.connect('searchForm', 'submit', function(e) { e.preventDefault(); var myVal = $('input', this)[0].value; d.xhrGet({ url : 'search.php', content : { term : myVal }, handleAs : 'json', load : function(resp) { var tpl = '<li><h2>%title</h2><p>%desc</p></li>'; d.byId('results').innerHTML = d.map(resp.results, function(r) { return tpl.replace('%title', r.title).replace('%desc', r.desc); }).join(''); } }) }); }); })(dojo, dojo.query); Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • #3 understanding the problem is key to determining the solution Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Decision-makers need help to make actual decisions ... and understand their consequences. Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • understand the project application vs. website? team skills: dedicated F2E? team size & turnover? project lifecycle: long-term, evolving product? service-oriented back-end? Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • assess the application’s needs code & le organization? dependency management & build tools? templating & templated widgets? data abstractions & binding? a11y, i18n & l10n? Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • then and only then, choose your tools features that address the application’s needs? active development? active community? documentation & resources? institutional backing? Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • #4 RTFM can’t be our go-to answer Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • “[It’s] a difficult time to learn to be a JavaScript ninja, or even a JavaScript street beggar. Good resources for getting beyond the very basics are hard to nd, documentation is sparse or wrong, and a snippet of code that may have been viable last year is now an anti- pattern.” http://www.clientcide.com/deep-thoughts/why-its-a-good-idea-to-be-a-javascript-developer-and-what-it-takes-to-be-one/#comment-32703 Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • #5 sharing what we know is as important as making new things Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • Wednesday, September 29, 2010
    • rebeccamurphey.com • blog.rebeccamurphey.com • @rmurphey anks, in guilt-free alphabetical order, to: Tim Caswell, John Hann, Peter Higgins, Tom Hughes- Croucher, Paul Irish, Brian LeRoux, Roger Raymond, Alex Sexton, Colin Snover, Adam Sontag, Chris Williams, and to everyone who listened to me formulate my thoughts. Wednesday, September 29, 2010