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    • Does God still Speak Today? Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? Has Special Revelation ceased, or does God still communicate to people through prophets, dreams, visions, and audible encounters? Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? Three positions: 1.Continuationism 2.Hard Cessationism 3.Soft Cessationism Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Temporary Gifts Permanent Gifts Supernatural Sign Speakin Confirmator ServingRevelatory g y• Apostleship • Healings • Evangelism • Service• Prophecy • Miracles • Teaching • Showing• Discerning • Tongues • Pastor- Mercy of spirits teacher • Giving• Word of • Exhortation • Administratio wisdom n• Word of • Helps knowledge• Tongues• Interpretatio
    • Question What is theContinuationist view of Prophecy? Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?Continuationism: View that miraculous sign gifts are still being given and, therefore, God still speaks directly in various ways today.Adherents: Wayne Grudem, Jack Deere, Craig Keener, Jack Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? Defense of Continuationism: Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? 1. Acts 2:14-21 seems to teach that supernatural occurrences such as tongues and prophecy would be normative for the Church era. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? 2. The entire book of Acts seems to show that the supernatural gifts are common within the Church. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? 3. All of Scripture supports the idea that it is God’s nature to work in supernatural ways. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? 4. The New Testament never explicitly states that the supernatural sign gifts would cease. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? “If you were to lock abrand-new Christian in a roomwith a Bible and tell him tostudy what Scripture has tosay about healings andmiracles, he would never comeout of the room acessationist.” –Jack Deere Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All of the Spirit Surprised by the Power rights reserved. (Grand Rapids, Mi: Zondervan, 1997), 54
    • Question What is the HardCessationist view of Prophecy? Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?Hard Cessationism: View that miraculous sign gifts ceased with the death of the last apostle and the completion of the New Testament. Therefore, God does not speak directly to people today.Adherents: Charles Hodge, John MacArthur, most Reformers Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? Defense of Hard Cessationism: Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? 1. The Bible implicitly supports the idea that the supernatural sign gifts were for the establishment of the Church era. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? Eph. 2:19-20 “So then you are no longer foreigners and noncitizens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of God’s household, because you have been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the cornerstone.” Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? 2 Cor. 12:12 “Indeed, the signs of an apostle were performed among you with great perseverance by signs and wonders and powerful deeds.” Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? Heb. 2:3-4“How will we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was first communicated through the Lord and was confirmed to us by those who heard him, while God confirmed their witness with signs and wonders and various miracles and gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.” Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? 1 Cor. 13:8-10 “Love never ends. But if there are prophecies, they will be set aside; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be set aside. For we know in part and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.” ” Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? 2. It is agreed that the Bible never explicitly states that the sign gifts have ceased. But the Bible never explicitly states that Scripture is complete, yet both cessetionists and non- cessetionists agree that it is. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? 3. If God is still speaking supernaturally through prophecy, tongues, word of wisdom, etc., then the Canon of Scripture is still open. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?“It might, indeed, be a prioriconceivable that God should dealwith men [individually], and revealHimself and His will to eachindividual, throughout the wholecourse of history, in the [depths]of his own consciousness. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?This is the mystics dream. Ithas not, however, been God‟sway. He has chosen rather todeal with the race in itsentirety, and to give this raceHis complete revelation ofHimself in an organic whole.” –B.B. Warfield Counterfeit Miracles (Carlisle, PN: Banner of Truth, 1972), 26 Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? 4. If one were to examine the Scripture closely, it becomes evident that God’s direct intervention through prophecy and supernatural signs and wonders was not the norm as it may seem. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? The Bible, as theological history (not exhaustive history), only records the times when God does intervene, thereby giving the impression that God’s direct encounters through prophets, dreams, visions, etc. are God’s modus operandi when they are not. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Noah Moses 2000+ yrs of apparent silenceElijah & Elisha Christ and 900 yrs of apparent silence The Apostles
    • Does God Still Speak Today? 5. History convincingly suggests that the supernatural sign gifts have ceased. We do not see evidence of confirmed prophets after the death of the last apostle. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? Only fringe groups here and there have claimed that God still speaks through prophets, tongues, etc., unt il the 20th century when the charismatic revival began. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today? “This whole place [1 Cor. 12on spiritual gifts] is veryobscure . . . but the obscurityis produced by our ignoranceof the facts referred to andby their cessation, being suchas then used to occur, but nowno longer take place.” –John Chrysostom (347-407) Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?“In the earliest time theHoly Ghost fell upon themthat believed: and theyspoke with tongues whichthey had not learned „as theSpirit gave them utterance.‟These were signs adaptedto the time. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?For it was proper for the HolySpirit to evidence Himself inall tongues, and to show thatthe Gospel of God had come toall tongues [languages] overthe whole earth. The thingwas done for a authenticationand it passed away.” –St. Augustine (354-430) Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved. Ten Homilies on the first Epistle of John VI, 10
    • Question What is the SoftCessationist view of Prophecy?Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?Soft Cessationism: Or “Soft Continuationist.” The view that the miraculous sign gifts could still be given today, but believers need to be careful about outright acceptance of people’s claims of possession.Adherents: D. A. Carson, Robert Saucy Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?Defense of Soft Cessationism: Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?1. Neither side’s arguments are conclusive. We must therefore proceed with great caution. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?2. While it may be true that Church history has not seen the continuation of God speaking directly, this does not mean that it is not possible. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?“God, in his ordinaryprovidence, makes use ofmeans, yet is free to workwithout, above, and againstthem, at his pleasure.” –Westminster Confession of Faith Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?3. Those who adhere to a futuristic interpretation of Revelation must concede that there are going to be prophets in the future as represented by the Two Witnesses (Rev. 11:3) and, Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?…possibly, the 144,000Israelites (Rev. 7:4).Therefore, we must be opento further direct revelationfrom God. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?Guiding Principles:1. God’s Word is not something to be trifled with (Ex. 20:7).2. If you are a prophet, you must show convincing signs of a prophet (Deut 18:15-22). Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Does God Still Speak Today?3. If you are a prophet, you must have orthodox theology (Deut. 13:1-3).4. If someone believes that they have a word from the Lord, they had better be certain and be ready to live by the consequences if it turns out false. Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.
    • Discussion Groups Copyright © 2004, The Theology Program. All rights reserved.