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Issue
No.
11
 DOODLES?
 PAPER AND TWINE a
|
this
page

 
 b
|
pow
wows
and
pretending
dumb
‐
concluded
 
 c |
interview
w/
john
cardoso

 
 d
|
interview
‐
continued
 
 e
|
interview
‐
concluded
|
nalgene
supports
animal
testing
 
 f |
doodles?
notes?
 igotablog | vegansdontbite | paperandtwine .tumblr.com ABOUT THIS ISSUE: It didn’t start off as the finished zine you are now holding. The interview with Johnny was an idea I NOTES?
 came up with at the last minute. Then I realized how much sense it would make to do an interview with him now with ‘Pow Wows’ being concluded in this THIEF! – 11.24.11 issue. As you will read he also just launched a site The Canvas. And recently I got a roll of film developed My third released music project that was long overdue, and found a great picture of Thief! Johnny (which is the current cover). Available for free download via derelict.bandcamp.com paper and twine – issue 11
 Issue
no.11
|
11.27.11
 
 

  3. 3. e b Pow Wows and Pretending Dumb Is
there
anything
you
want
to
address
about
the
site
or
make
any
 
 announcements?
 He
decided
to
say
nothing.
They
got
closer
and
closer
and
she
had
a
very
 Keep
checking
the
Canvas
for
new
shit,
especially
if
you
live
in
Seattle,
because
 straight
face
on,
not
looking
at
him
much
at
all.
They
were
about
six
feet
 this
is
a
Seattle‐based
site
and
Ill
be
blabbing
my
mouth
about
shit
in
Seattle
all
 away
and
she
made
eye
contact
with
him,
smirked
a
bit
and
winked
lightly,
 the
time.
Send
me
music.
Send
me
art.
Send
me
stories.
Go
to
RAWSPINE.COM
 and
looked
away.
To
him,
he
had
known
that
she
had
just
said
hello.
They
 where
you
can
link
to
the
Rawspine
site,
The
Canvas,
and
my
Twisting
Cells
 had
still
shared
something,
although
they
both
likely
had
no
idea
what
it
was.
 project,
where
you
can
download
my
music.
*Read
Paper
&
Twine,
and
dont
 It
wasnt
of
importance,
or
so
they
felt.
It
wasnt
any
big
thing.
They
existed.
 forget
to
take
it
sleazy.

 They
fell
out
of
existence.
Then
never
existed
at
all.

 ‐ p
&
t

 “Did
you
fuckin
see
that,”
one
of
his
friends
said.
They
were
all
rather
quiet
 
 now,
as
they
all
noticed
the
beautiful
girl
walk
by
and
all
sort
of
gawked
at
 **(*that
was
a
unsolicited
plug)

(**honestly)
 her
for
a
moment.
His
friend
went
on,
“I
think
she
totally
just
winked
at
me.”
 
 “Go
get
her,
man,”
he
said
to
his
friend,
knowing
that
he
wouldnt
 Nalgene Supports Animal Testing bother.
 
 
 “Yeah
right,
dude.
A
girl
like
that
is
probably
too
much
work.”
The
site
where
they
first
hosted
the
ORIGINAL
statement
on
their
 
 “Too
much
work,
eh?”
stand
on
animal
testing
has
disappeared,
reappeared
and
changed
 
 “Yeah
you
know.
Probably
have
to
be
there
day
and
night
for
her.
this
year.

The
current
Official
Statement
is
loosely
written
on
how
 Making
sure
shes
happy.
Letting
her
know
youre
there
for
her,
whenever
they
don’t
“… conduct
any
animal
testing
in
the
development
or
 she
needs
it.
I
dont
have
the
time
to
give
it
my
all
like
that.
I
wish
I
did.
Thats
manufacturing
of
our
products
and
we
do
not
condone
the
inhumane
 the
whole
reason
Im
not
going
after
anyone.
Gotta
take
care
of
myself
first,
treatment
of
animals.”.
 But
then
another
piece
of
the
statement
 you
know.
If
only
though
man.
If
only.”
contradicts
that
last
one,
“ Without
animal
research,
we
will
never
be
 
 “Maybe
you
can
just
meet
up
with
her
from
time
to
time,
fuck
like
able
to
cure
AIDS,
multiple
sclerosis
or
Alzheimers.”
. 
 bunnies
and
move
on.”
 
 “Or
maybe
in
your
fucking
dreams,
man.”
his
friend
replied.
Their
whole
statement
to
me
is
bass‐ackwards,
having
any
part
in
 
 “Its
like...pow
wows...
and
pretending
dumb.”
he
said
raising
an
animal
testing:
attaching
prods,
or
supplying
the
plastic
cages
in
 eyebrow.
which
the
animals
are
kept,
itself
is
an
inhumane
act
to
the
animals
 
 “What?”
another
one
of
his
friends
said.
who
I’m
sure
did
not
volunteer
for
this
research
and
are
being
held
 
 “Absolutely.”
he
replied
back.
and
mistreated
against
their
own
will.

No
where
in
the
statement
do
 “Sometimes
you
dont
make
any
sense
at
all,
man.”
the
third
friend
said
they
say
they
have
plans
to
stop
their
part
in
animal
testing,
but
that
 laughing.
they
want
to
“… minimize
the
use
of
animal
research…”.
Even
with
a
 
 They
kept
walking
and
he
just
thought,
Tell
me
about
it.
A
weirdo.
A
minimized
use
there
will
still
be
a
great
amount
of
lives
that
will
suffer
 sinner.
Im
fucked.
at
the
cost
of
experimentation.

I
understand
that
there
needs
to
be
 
 A
weirdo.
A
sinner.
Im
fucked.
 
 Story
by
John
Cardoso
‘subjects’
to
conduct
‘research’
on
but
there
has
to
be
a
better
 Rawspine.com
alternative
to
use
(there
are
people
everyday
who
want
to
submit
themselves
to
science
for
cash,
are
these
tests
not
fit
for
humans,
but
animals?).

If
it
is
because
the
intelligence
you
believe
a
species
possess
or
the
lack
of,
that
gives
you
a
right
to
put
a
value
on
their
life,
is
wrong.

It’s
the
same
as
if
you
were
to
take
members
of
society
who
aren’t
the
intelligent
“norm”
and
force
them
to
participate
in
painful
testing,
a
life
is
a
life
regardless
of
species
rank.

We
all
need
to
find
alternative
ways
to
live
our
lives.
That
doesn’t
negatively
affect
others.

 Issue
no.11
|
11.27.11
 
 

  4. 4. 
 C d Interview w/ John Cardoso There
is
a
small
header
on
the
site
that
reads:
“What
is
this
CANVAS
 
John’s
work
has
made
its
way
into
paper
and
twine
several
times
with
his
 shit”.
What
is
this
Canvas
shit?
 short
stories
[Dead
Quiet
Saturday’s/
Pow
Wows
and
Pretending
Dumb/
 This
Canvas
shit
is
pretty
much
just
a
blog
where
I
can
talk
about
whatever
I
 Recycled
Beauty],
but
recently
John
has
launched
a
new
site
called
The
 find
interesting.
From
music,
to
film,
politics,
art.
Whatever
I
happen
to
want
 Canvas.
The
Canvas
is
a
place
for
“Music,
Art,
Media
and
Shit”.

Since
I’ve
 to
post
at
the
time.
And
all
the
while,
I
try
to
do
it
in
a
voice
that
wont
bore
 known
him
he’s
always
had
ideas
for
sites
to
better
display
not
just
his
art
 the
fuck
out
of
you.
I
hate
when
you
go
to
a
“blog”
and
all
they
do
is
post
a
 but
the
creations
that
he
finds
around
him,
The
Canvas
has
been
around
for
 link
to
a
song
or
video
or
something,
but
never
write
ANYTHING.
Theres
 over
a
month
now
and
he
is
displaying
some
great
finds
so
far.

The
layout
of
 never
any
OPINIONS
on
some,
thats
what
a
blog
is!
Say
shit!
 the
site
is
well
done
and
straight
to
the
point,
newest
shit
on
the
left,
past
 
 archives
can
be
found
on
the
right,
and
6
words
at
the
top
to
guide
you
 Under
that
same
header
it
says
the
“...blog
is
operated
by
Rawspine”,
 through
your
adventures
on
The
Canvas.

Mr.
Cardoso
has
been
in
his
home
 your
short
stories
were
hosted
on
a
Rawspine
site
a
while
ago,
is
RS
 state
Montana
and
residing
in
Butte
for
the
past
few
months,
but
he’s
finally
 essentially
the
house
and
The
Canvas
is
just
one
of
the
doors
inside?
 made
his
way
back
Sea
side…
 Yeah,
pretty
much.
Ive
used
the
term
“rawspine”
in
my
writing
for
years
and
 
 years,
thats
one
of
the
reasons
my
old
“RAWSPINE”
site
was
a
place
where
 So,
Why
the
fuck
were
you
in
Butte
for
so
long?
Getting
away
from
some
 you
could
find
some
of
my
short
stories,
poems
and
things
like
that.
Its
been
 felony
charges
here
in
Seattle?
 my
design
company
for
the
past
couple
of
years
too,
and
it
was
just
this
year
 [Butte]Thats
where
I
grew
up,
where
my
family
lives.
I
just
felt
like
I
needed
 when
I
decided
to
make
it
sort
of
a
single
go‐to
place
for
whatever
medium
I
 to
get
out
of
the
city
for
a
while
and
spend
a
few
months
with
my
family.
It
 want
to
display:
music,
art,
design,
apparel
or
whatever.
Maybe
one
day
Ill
 was
nice
spending
time
with
my
nieces
and
everything.
On
the
other
note,
 house
a
bong
museum
or
some
dope
shit
like
that.
Rawspine
Waterpipe
 all
past
felonies
have
been
dropped
due
to
a
plead
of
insanity,
with
that
said
I
 Museum.
Fuck
yeah.
 choose
not
to
further
elaborate
on
said
topic
and
all
further
questions
can
be
 
 sent
to
my
lawyer.
 Is
Rawspine
getting
ready
to
‘house’
anything
new,
or
future
plans
to
do
 
 so?
 I
remember
you
talking
about
The
Canvas
early
this
year/late
last
year,
 So
far
I
mostly
plan
on
releasing
my
own
music
through
Rawspine
Records,
 was
the
time
spent
in
Montana
a
crucial
get‐away
needed
for
you
to
 and
doing
design
in
between
and
finding
a
few
artists
whod
like
to
put
out
 finally
get
the
site
running?
 releases.
Definitely
starting
up
Rawspine
Publications
and
try
and
find
some
 Definitely.
In
those
three
months
I
had
enough
time
to
work
on
three
new
 other
writers
whod
like
to
put
some
stuff
out.
Rawspine
Apparel
is
coming
 websites,
write
and
record
a
bit
of
music,
and
sort
of
just
think
about
and
 by
January
I
hope.
Theres
going
to
be
a
special
line
called
“Rawdyes”
which
 prepare
for
what
I
wanted
to
do
when
I
got
back
to
Seattle.
 will
all
be
hand
dyed
tie‐dye
apparel
with
prints
over
them.
I
want
to
start
 
 doing
more
video
production
too,
but
my
camera
just
shit
out
on
me,
so
that
 Running
a
site
is
difficult
enough,
but
you’re
doing
it
as
a
one‐man
 might
be
held
back
a
bit.
And
then
theres
that
Waterpipe
Museum.

 operation,
is
there
a
constant
stress
you
face
daily
with
post
or
a
weird
 
 technical
issue?


 You
take
music/art
submissions
too
right?
How
can
people
get
those
to
 It
doesnt
really
stress
me
out
so
much.
If
there
is
a
technical
problem
Im
 you?
 usually
just
temporarily
annoyed
until
it
gets
fixed.
So
far
its
pretty
basic
so
 Theres
a
link
on
the
site.
Its
pretty
easy,
just
shoot
a
link
to
 not
too
much
has
gone
wrong.
When
it
comes
to
posts,
Im
sort
of
a
dork
so
 thecanvas@rawspine.com
and
describe
yourself
a
bit.
And
you
know,
link
 Im
always
scanning
the
internet
and
reading
blogs
‐
so
I
just
post
whatever
I
 me
to
a
bandcamp/soundcloud
or
somewhere
where
I
can
stream
your
 feel
necessary.
Its
mostly
music,
because
I
mostly
care
about
music
haha.

 music.
Dont
send
mp3s
in
the
email
cause
thats
obnoxious
as
hell.
No
zip
 …And
it’s
nice
to
be
able
to
post
what’s
relevant/important
to
you,
than
 files
or
anything,
please
and
thank
you.
I
love
hearing
new
music
and
 deal
with
an
influence
you
may
not
agree
with
too.

 spreading
the
word,
and
love
all
music
from
indie
to
hip
hop
to
electronica
to
 I
definitely
just
like
being
able
to
throw
whatever
I
want
out
there.
If
its
 folk
and
all
in
between.

If
I
like
it
Ill
definitely
post
it
up
on
The
Canvas.
It
 relevant
its
relevant,
if
its
not,
it
is
because
it
is
to
me.
 doesnt
even
need
to
be
music.
If
youre
an
artist,
send
me
your
art.
Send
me
 
 your
videos.
Im
down.

 continued
on
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no.11
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