Membrane - Plate - Shell

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  • When assign membrane on slabs beams do have greater moments indeed, however this is true for the span. What about the moment at the support of the beams? It seems to me that in membrane assignment is less, thus making the design probably inadequate. This is even more dangerous when capacity column/beam design is incorporated.
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Membrane - Plate - Shell

  1. 1. Presentation by DUY NGUYEN OF P&T Consultants Pte Ltd A BRIEF STUDY OF USING MEMBRANE, SHELL OR PLATE IN ASSIGNING A SLAB/WALL
  2. 2. P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer FOREWORD: * When using Etabs we may recognize that their are 3 options for a Wall/Slab section assignment. They are Shell, Membrane and Plate. * Each type of section has different features. * Since Slab or Wall is main element so its section assignment will has significant effect into our model output. * In this brief doc, we will go through major meanings of each type, what it will affect to our model and some useful recommendations.
  3. 3. <ul><li>1.DEFINITION OF ETABS: </li></ul>P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer <ul><li>In its help, Etabs said that: </li></ul><ul><li>They can be interpreted as follow: </li></ul><ul><li>If a slab is assigned as Membrane section, it will has no out-of-plane stiffness then can not contribute to resist bending moment. </li></ul><ul><li>In other hand, if it is assigned as Plate section, it has full out-of-plan stiffness that mean can support to cater for bending moment but it will has no in-of-plan stiffness to receive horizontal load. </li></ul><ul><li>Lastly, if it is assigned as Shell section, it has full out and in-of-plan stiffness as what we understand for a normal slab. </li></ul>
  4. 4. <ul><li>2. VERIFY FROM ETABS MODEL </li></ul>P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer 1. Membrane 2. Shell 3. Plate <ul><li>All in three models are the same, only differentiate in slab assignment. See what happen in the out put??? </li></ul>
  5. 5. P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer <ul><li>Membrane </li></ul><ul><li>Moment = zero </li></ul>2.Shell 3. Plate Moment contour of Shell and Plate is similar <ul><li>Conclusion 1 : Easily understanding that as there is no out-of-plan stiffness then Membrane can not resist bending moment as told since it is out-of-plan moment. </li></ul><ul><li>Then, what will be affected accordingly???? </li></ul>Slab moment
  6. 6. P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer <ul><li>Membrane </li></ul>Beam bending moment 2. Shell 3. Plate <ul><li>Conclusion 2 : As a result of no contribution from Membrane, Beams in membrane assignment model have bigger bending moment than in others. The thicker slab, the lesser bending moment in Shell or Plate model beams. </li></ul>
  7. 7. P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer <ul><li>For your reference and checking, when assigning Membrane, as it only has in-plane stiffness then also cause the Building global stiffness reduced. As a result, the displacement, story drift and period of a Membrane model are also larger than Shell model. </li></ul>Conclusion 3 : The displacement, story drift and period of a Membrane model are also larger than Shell model .
  8. 8. <ul><li>3. ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF USING MEMBRANE, SHELL OR PLATE </li></ul>P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer Membrane Shell Slab design <ul><li>Not available in Etabs. </li></ul><ul><li>Slab has to be designed by manual check or separately slab spreadsheets. </li></ul><ul><li>Can see analysis result from Etabs, therefore can utilize Etabs to design for normal Slab, Flat slab… </li></ul>Beam design <ul><li>Get a conservative value of beam moment and similar to hand calculation method. </li></ul><ul><li>Can utilize Etabs Design Function for a faster design. </li></ul><ul><li>Take into account the contribution of Slab then has a smaller bending moment, not conservative. </li></ul><ul><li>Can also use Etabs Design Function. </li></ul>Overall <ul><li>Can be used to assign for one-way slab. </li></ul><ul><li>Can easily view and check how loading transferred to surrounding beams </li></ul><ul><li>Can not. </li></ul><ul><li>Can not </li></ul>
  9. 9. P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer Membrane Shell Overall <ul><li>Slab do not need to be mesh then model is analysis faster. </li></ul><ul><li>Only can applied for 4 side slab with surrounding beams. </li></ul><ul><li>Slab need to be mesh to get more accurate result, this may take long time to run. </li></ul><ul><li>Can applied for irregular shapes of slabs </li></ul>
  10. 10. P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer <ul><li>When choosing membrane, in Load distribution option, tick on “Use special one-way Load distribution to assign for one way slab. </li></ul><ul><li>After running, go to menu Display/Show load/Frame line. Tick on “all loading that is Tributary to the Line Object (Force)’ to see the loading transferred to beams. </li></ul>
  11. 11. <ul><li>4. RECOMENDATION </li></ul>P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer “ Different companies will have different styles of using Etabs. It will be depended on the common practice of each company. However, understanding the philosophy of Etabs is the most important so that the modeler can ensure that his model is under controlled.” 1. Membrane is used to transfer the load to the beams without considering the strength contributed by the slab.  It distributes the load in a yield like manner i.e. trapezoidal and triangular loads to the beams.  One thing to note is that membrane will only work if there are 4 surrounding beams. If there is a missing beam, the program divides the triangular or trapezoidal loads to point loads at the supporting columns. 2. Defining slab as membrane sometime generate a lot of errors, especially when the model is not orthogonal. Membrane element may not transfer loading to the beams accurately if it has more than 4 sides.
  12. 12. P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer 3. Be carefully to check the arrangement of membrane and beams so that loading can be transferred to the correct column and correct quantity similar to load take down by loading area method. 4. For cases where we know that membrane will not work and we wish for our design philosophy to be consistent I.e. ignoring the slab strength, you could always define a shell with a reduced out of plane bending stiffness at locations where the membrane assumption cannot be met.
  13. 13. <ul><li>REFERENCE </li></ul>P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer 1. Etabs manual and help 2. P&T Consultant PTE Practice Note
  14. 14. <ul><li>THE END </li></ul><ul><li>THANK YOU </li></ul>P&T Consultants Pte Ltd Civil & Structural Engineer

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