… .….or the unclothed state of the application security industry today Mark Curphey

“ Software is a forklift for the left brain.” —Dan Pink

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Culture New Topic Noun 1: a particular civilization at a particular stage 2: the tastes in art and manners that are favored by a social group 3: all the knowledge and values shared by a society

Application security people are from Mars, software developers are from Venus or The great skills divide A better title ?

Most application security people are not software people Most application security people have no idea what enterprise software really is or understand the process of how it is created Most application security people think that if they understand HTTP then they understand web application security and can advise people on how to build secure web sites Most application security people can’t write code

“ In the future everyone will have their 15 minutes of fame” – Andy Warhol

NEWS FLASH: The world is not falling down because of cross site scripting Security < Performance < Functionality Start caring about the important stuff (before application security becomes ignored)

Consortiums, forums and the open source dream

“ Lingua d’application security” Some readings from some (self-titled) web application security standards………..

Don’t get fooled into thinking the discussions on webappsec are representative of the problems business cares about!

Art of the security group Have “world renowned experts” Speak for the “entire industry” Create “standards” Be “thought leaders” Take yourself really, really seriously

Have “world renowned experts”

Speak for the “entire industry”

Create “standards”

Be “thought leaders”

Take yourself really, really seriously

Tools New Topic

Better title? How to buy a silver bullet ? Dude where's my shiny red button?

Its NOT about network security!

(IMPLEMENTTATION) BUGS (DESIGN) FLAWS

How many of the people that are building software security tools have come from a commercial development background?

Introducing the only tool in the world that really works effectively today……

A fool with a tool … .is still a fool

A tool with a tool … .is always a tool

News for people who run tools

China!

China!

China!

China!

Media have no clue!

What the industry really needs New Topic

Better title? A dose of reality or How does the industry grow up?

Communication

Peace, love and understanding

Credibility

Real standards

People Process Technology (back to basics)

“ If you don’t like change, you’re going to like irrelevance even less.” —General Eric Shinseki, Chief of Staff. U. S. Army

That’s all folks!