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Slides for a brief presentation on "Can We Mine JISCMail Lists? Can We Talk About MailMine?" which will be given by Brian Kelly, UKOLN at the "Working With Text Workshop" workshop which is co-located ...

Slides for a brief presentation on "Can We Mine JISCMail Lists? Can We Talk About MailMine?" which will be given by Brian Kelly, UKOLN at the "Working With Text Workshop" workshop which is co-located with the Open Repositories 2012 conference on 9 July 2012..

See www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/events/conferences/or12/working-with-text

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Can We Mine JISCMail Lists? Can We Talk About MailMine? Can We Mine JISCMail Lists? Can We Talk About MailMine? Presentation Transcript

  • Twitter: http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/web-focus/events/conferences/or12/working-with-text/#or2012 OR 2012: Working With Text Workshop Can We Mine JISCMail Lists? Can We Talk About MailMine? Brian Kelly Acceptable Use Policy UKOLN Recording this talk, taking photos, University of Bath discussing the content using Twitter, BATH, UK blogs, etc. is permitted providing distractions to others is minimised. Email: b.kelly@ukoln.ac.uk Blog: Twitter: http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/ http://twitter.com/briankelly/ UKOLN is supported by: This work is licensed under a A centre of expertise in digital information management Creativewww.ukoln.ac.uk 2.0 Commons Attribution licence (but note caveat)
  • The Context Mailing lists: • Value role to play in scholarly, research and development work over several decades • Still used - actively in some areas – but not „fashionable‟ • Opportunity for mining mailing list archives in order to understand:  Our history  Roles played in development work  How mailing lists have been / are being used  … Use case: Provide evidence of UKOLN‟s involvement in development of Web standards since late 1990s. A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk2
  • Work in Other Areas: Markmail Markmail A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk3 View slide
  • A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk4 View slide
  • A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk5
  • Active in early years. What happened next? A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk6
  • What Happened Later? Peer-reviewed papers published at W4A conference & elsewhere from 2004 Quality of papers known from citations, etc. But what of discussions on UK mailing lists between 1998-2004 (and beyond)?Two most highly ranked papers at W4A conferences, accordingto Microsoft Academic digital information management A centre of expertise in Search. www.ukoln.ac.uk7
  • What of the UK HE Sector? Mailbase service: • Funded from 1989-2001 • Hosted at Newcastle University • Home-grown software • Archives no longer available online JISCMail service: • Funded from 2001 • Provided by RAL/CCRC/STFC/JISC Advance • Now managed by JISC Advance • Uses LSoft‟s LISTSERV software • Dated software; not native Web application; no APIs; … A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk8
  • Risk of Losing Our Digital Record Wish to: • Understand our digital communications hosted on key mailing list provider • Identify ways of maintaining such understandings Challenges: • Limitations of software • Concerns over AUP, privacy, legal issues, … • Available resources Can I demonstrate Mark‟s MailMine software? Will Scottish law mean he shouldn‟t set foot north of the border? A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk9
  • JISCMail search Technical barriers to processing JISCMail content (not covered further) A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk10
  • Legal barriers in Legal & Ethical Issues processing JISCMail content See https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/acceptableuse.html Disclosure: I was a member of the JISCMail Advisory Group expertise in digital information management was agreed! A centre of in May 2001 when this AUP www.ukoln.ac.uk11
  • A Way Forward? Is there a way forward? A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk12
  • Case Study (1) LIS-Elib-Managers: • Closed list, used by managers of large-scale national digital library programme Preparing for Change: • Discussions with list owners • Audit of contributors, discussions & contact with significant contributors • One post of personal nature deleted Making Changes A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk13
  • Case Study (2) List now open up after announcement of change of policy sent to list (most bounced!) Suggested approach for others: • Audit archive in order to identify the numbers of people who have posted messages & numbers of messages that have been posted. • Identify the reasons why the list was set up as a closed list. • Gain an understanding of possible risks in opening up access to list archives. • Formulate a policy decision with key stakeholders. • Communicate the policy and gathering feedback. • Analyse the feedback and review changes to the proposed policy. • Implementing the policy. See Case Study: Opening Access to a Closed and Unused Mailing List <http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2011/08/31/ > A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk14
  • What Do We Want? Some questions: • Do we want to be able to mine the text of scholarly mailing lists? • If so, who wants to do this and what do they want? • Should we simply make use of US lists top avoid UK technical & legal silos? If there is a need and a community: • How do we address the legal and ethical issues? • What technical approaches should we take? Note comment on UK Web Focus blog from previous JISCMail director: “The difference between MarkMail & Google for us here at JISCMail, is that to be in the free version of Markmail we have to give them the content for them to index whereas Google, & other search engines, come & index us. This difference gives rise to issues15 around ownership & managementinformation management why we are not www.ukoln.ac.uk A centre of expertise in digital of live lists which is in MarkMail”
  • What Next for the Prototype? MailMine prototype management A centre of expertise in digital information www.ukoln.ac.uk16
  • What Next for the Prototype? MailMine prototype management A centre of expertise in digital information www.ukoln.ac.uk17
  • Questions Any questions? A centre of expertise in digital information management www.ukoln.ac.uk18