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Student Talk as Curriculum
EDESL 771 Curriculum & Materials in the Content Areas
                                Hunter College MA in TESOL, Laura Baecher
   1
Exploratory Talk
Every secondary school teacher will have met classes of older adolescents
who do not answer teachers’ questions, who will not join in pseudo-
discussion…They have learnt during the years that most teachers only wish
to hear the expected reply, that they do not want discussions that include
divergent viewpoints and which raise questions different from theirs. When
teachers complain about classes who will not talk they often present this as
a moral failing in the pupils: it is more likely that the pupils have learnt from
their schooling that their knowledge is irrelevant in a context determined by
teachers, examinations, school syllabuses, and so on. 

  ow can your lessons, curriculum and activities encourage
  H
exploratory talk?
  hat would you like to hear in a group or pair conversation in your
  W
class and how can this be planned for in curriculum design?
  hy is this so important with ELLs?
  W

                                               Hunter College MA in TESOL, Laura Baecher
   2
Classroom Discourse with ELLs
 What are some of the variables that might lead to less
                                      classroom talk?

                         eacher discourse incomprehensible
                        T
                                   ew response opportunities
                                   F
                               ack of wait or processing time
                               L
                         ultural beliefs about classroom talk
                         C
     ilent period—or belief that students cannot participate
    S
          eacher talk dominates-75% and 25% student talk
          T
  ature of IRE response patterns leads students to believe
 N
                                 they must have “right” answer
           ack of linguistic repertoire to communicate ideas
           L
                                  Hunter College MA in TESOL, Laura Baecher
   3
Teacher-Supported Discourse
                      What are some of the ways ESL
                   teachers can encourage classroom
                                                talk?
        dapt discourse to make it more comprehensible
         A
                         istribute response opportunities
                          D
                            uild in wait or processing time
                            B
              e explicit about classroom talk (the PUSH)
              B
                   o not prolong students’ “silent period”
                   D
  lan lessons and activities that make students talk 75%
 P
  raft exploratory rather than display or “known-answer”
 C
                                                   questions
       rovide the language needed and assist in student
      P
                                                 elaboration
                               Hunter College MA in TESOL, Laura Baecher
   4
Planning to Extend ELL Classroom Talk

                                              Appropriate	
  or	
  
                                             Correct	
  Response	
  

                                                 Par&ally	
  
                                              Appropriate	
  or	
  
                                             Correct	
  Response	
  

                                                Incorrect	
  or	
  
                                               Inappropriate	
  
                                                 Response	
  
                      	
  Ques&on	
  
                                               Response	
  in	
  
                                             Na&ve	
  Language	
  


                                             Another	
  Ques&on	
  



                                               No	
  Response	
  



                      Hunter College MA in TESOL, Laura Baecher
       5

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Curriculum & Materials.Student Talk as Curriculum

  • 1. Student Talk as Curriculum EDESL 771 Curriculum & Materials in the Content Areas Hunter College MA in TESOL, Laura Baecher 1
  • 2. Exploratory Talk Every secondary school teacher will have met classes of older adolescents who do not answer teachers’ questions, who will not join in pseudo- discussion…They have learnt during the years that most teachers only wish to hear the expected reply, that they do not want discussions that include divergent viewpoints and which raise questions different from theirs. When teachers complain about classes who will not talk they often present this as a moral failing in the pupils: it is more likely that the pupils have learnt from their schooling that their knowledge is irrelevant in a context determined by teachers, examinations, school syllabuses, and so on.   ow can your lessons, curriculum and activities encourage H exploratory talk?   hat would you like to hear in a group or pair conversation in your W class and how can this be planned for in curriculum design?   hy is this so important with ELLs? W Hunter College MA in TESOL, Laura Baecher 2
  • 3. Classroom Discourse with ELLs What are some of the variables that might lead to less classroom talk?   eacher discourse incomprehensible T   ew response opportunities F   ack of wait or processing time L   ultural beliefs about classroom talk C   ilent period—or belief that students cannot participate S   eacher talk dominates-75% and 25% student talk T   ature of IRE response patterns leads students to believe N they must have “right” answer   ack of linguistic repertoire to communicate ideas L Hunter College MA in TESOL, Laura Baecher 3
  • 4. Teacher-Supported Discourse What are some of the ways ESL teachers can encourage classroom talk?   dapt discourse to make it more comprehensible A   istribute response opportunities D   uild in wait or processing time B   e explicit about classroom talk (the PUSH) B   o not prolong students’ “silent period” D   lan lessons and activities that make students talk 75% P   raft exploratory rather than display or “known-answer” C questions   rovide the language needed and assist in student P elaboration Hunter College MA in TESOL, Laura Baecher 4
  • 5. Planning to Extend ELL Classroom Talk Appropriate  or   Correct  Response   Par&ally   Appropriate  or   Correct  Response   Incorrect  or   Inappropriate   Response    Ques&on   Response  in   Na&ve  Language   Another  Ques&on   No  Response   Hunter College MA in TESOL, Laura Baecher 5