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  • Bootstrap
    Predatory environment for innovation -


  • Who hasn’t read Panos’ data? What are your impressions of what kinds of people do this?

    people do it for fun, or it is good for people in developing countries!
    panos has done some work on this
    80% of ppl doing it are in the US (cultural knowledge req’d for many tasks “what color is this lamp?” “steel grey”)
  • - survey results
    - why are these redlined people important
    - redlining
    - canaries in coal mine --> economic situation


  • In our surveys, some said that they were doing AMT because they’d been laid off or they couldn’t get more hours from their workplace in this economy.
  • It’s typically thought that Turk provides supplementary income. Supplementary doesn’t mean luxury. You know who else says they only provide supplementary income? Walmart

    The Walmartization of Information Labor
    - kinds of work that:
    - doesn’t build community infrastructure
    - doesn’t provide “primary income”
    Thing to watch out for:
    - AMT stands to benefit from systematic unemployment in depressionland
  • No way to rate requesters
    Employees can get voted down
    Work gets stolen - high paying HITs, lots of time, no pay off
    Rejections without justification - the scale of AMT prevents responsivity
    Frustrations about contributing to spam
    Lots of people complained of unfairly rejected HITS

  • Amazon Marketplace, EBay has this. Why doesn’t AMT have this? The reading we offered at the beginning was hardly dystopian -- it was pretty accurate.
    Importance of a 3rd party solution
  • Even Walmart says 5. Listen to Everyone in the Company
  • is that enough? not inherently a bad thing (though mousetraps are meant to kill things, so maybe a better metaphor?) Technologies might solve one set of problems but create a whole set of other problems. And just because it is being used by people a certain way right now doesn’t mean it will always be used that way. The medium alone is NOT the message -- but it can sure look like it is if you look at one snapshot in time. So building the perfect system right doesn’t absolve us of future responsibility.

    Explain why we framed these as questions and not directives.



  • Unfairly rejected work was a big reported problem
  • Transcript

    • 1. SOYLENT CROWD Round-the-clock workforce Dirt cheap labor Employees don’t talk BACK No costly health insurance No pesky sexual harassment scandals Repetitive stress injury? NOT YOUR PROBLEM!
    • 2. WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD? WHAT IS FORGOTTEN ABOUT SOYLENT CROWD?
    • 3. BUT WHAT KIND OF
    • 4. People Relying on AMT for
    • 5. BUT ISN’T IT THE WORKER’S CHOICE?
    • 6. Down and Out with AMT quot;I realize I have a choice to work or not work on AMT, but that means I would also need to make the choice to eat or not eat, pay bills or not pay bills, etc.quot; - 37 year old mom in school while working
    • 7. Third-party Employer Ratings Since January launch: •264 extension installs •135 logins •60 reviewers •800+ reviews
    • 8. The limits of Turkopticon
    • 9. BUILDING A BETTER MOUSETRAP? •What is required to be a responsible employer? •Health care? •Communicativity? •Intellectual property schemes? •Sharing what people are contributing to? •Your bottom line is not justification enough.
    • 10. Lilly Six PhD Candidate, UCI Arts Computation Informatics Engineering, UCI Past lives: Past lives: UX Designing, Social Googling, Computer entrepreneurship, Scienceing Climate modeling
    • 11. APPENDIX
    • 12. Where We Started “ If I could make the Mechanical Turk Bill of Rights... http://turkwork.differenceengines.com/blog/

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