AJAX vs. Flash: What's right for you?

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+ guest5bd1d89 3 months ago
Nice presentation.. very helpful.
+ guest14601 6 months ago
Unless you have a map server, flash is definitely better for zip code maps.
http://www.zipcodecd.com
+ guestc37a0 6 months ago
NOt sure what is meant by screens not looking 'webby'. Surely the point of Ajax and other technologies is to provide a richer interface than the early web? So this wont look 'webby' almost by definition?
+ guestfb1874 10 months ago
hmm... Getting JS Error in IE6.
+ wangjiaz 3 years ago
I often calls javascript functions from my actionscript program, and let js to do ajax. This way I avoid recompiling the actionscript for changed functions. And if the requirements are fixed, I normally call services directly from actionscript.
+ Jonathan Boutelle 3 years ago
XULRunner is for apps that DON'T run in the browser, right? So that's why I didn't include it for comparison.

In general, anything that won't run in IE without a plugin (except for Flash, which is a special case due to the fact that most people already have it) is a non-starter in my book. This is the case with XUL, right?
+ Jeff Mcneill 3 years ago
What about XULrunner as an option to compare with?
+ rashmi 3 years ago
Cool!
+ Jonathan Boutelle 3 years ago
My main point is that Flash isn’t '99% bad', as Jakob Neilson once said. It's not even a little bad. It’s just not the lingua franca of the web, so it's sometimes inappropriate.

It can be a secret weapon that lets you do things that just aren’t possible any other way.

But it should only be used where it can add real value.
+ Jonathan Boutelle 3 years ago
Due to the specialization, finding devs who are conversant in both Flash and AJAX is really hard work.

In particular, finding good developers who are willing to work on Flash can be very difficult. There’s a cultural perception that Flash is not something real developers use: similar to the perception 5 years ago that javascript was not a real programming language.

But if you’re using the Flash nuggets model I propose, you need developers who can do bothl: what you don’t want is for your devs to specialize at a lower level than front end / back end. Otherwise, you’ll start adding Flash unnecessarily just to keep the “Flash guy” occupied.

Solution: build ‘em yourself. Takes years to start up. After a while it becomes a machine, a culture.

The AJAX/Flash crossover artist is in extremely high demand nowadays. So once you build a team like this, take good care of them! And if you have these kinds of skills, then you should have no problem finding cool, high-paying projects to work on.

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Check check. Is this thing on? Can you hear me? Even the people in the back? Great. I’m here to talk about using AJAX and Flash to build great internet experiences. So how many people in the audience would consider themselves AJAX developers? How many people would consider themselves Flash developers? How many people have coded in both AJAX and Flash?

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AJAX & Flash What we learned building SlideShare.net
- Jonathan Boutelle
First
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DISCLAIMER
1. Play the field
- You don’t have to choose
- You quite possibly need both
2 . Keep Flash on a leash
- Full-Screen a no-no
- Flash nuggets as best practice
http://www.california-gold-rush-miner.us/california-gold-nugget.htm
3. Cheap Tricks
- In-place editing
- Attention control
- In-Page Messaging to user
- Tabs
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4. Flash graphic goodies
- Fonts
- Vector graphics
- Animation
5. Flash multimedia
- Output of media
- Input of media
- Editing of media
6. Widgetopia!
- Yes, I mean widgets
http://www.baychi.org/calendar/20060314/
7. Cool, but not useful to me
- Sockets
- Local data objects
- FLEX
8. AJAX FLASH crossover Artists
Finally
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Questions?