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27. minis   js data part 2
27. minis   js data part 2
27. minis   js data part 2
27. minis   js data part 2
27. minis   js data part 2
27. minis   js data part 2
27. minis   js data part 2
27. minis   js data part 2
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  • 1. “ H.I.S.-tory ” by Vince Ciotti © 2011 H.I.S. Professionals, LLC Episode # 27: JS/Data Part II
  • 2. Now Where Were We…
    • We’re just finishing up the mini vendors who dominated HIS sales in the 1980s:
      • HBO, Meditech, DCC, Gerber/Alley, etc.
    • Upsetting the dominant shared systems like:
      • SMS, McAuto, GE, Tymshare and the many Blues…
    • We’re down to the last few “mini” minis:
      • AR/Mediquest and JS/Data, both running on IBM
    • Who, although they didn’t dominate in terms of number of $s, made fascinating HIS-tories:
      • Remember what “AR” in AR/Mediquest is for?
    • So whatever happened to JS/Data ?
      • Click right to find out!
  • 3. Hidden HIS-tory Heroes
    • John Sacco, founder of JS/Data, and Ron Young, his COO, were kind enough to give credit to some of the many hard-working employees behind the scenes who made JS/Data succeed, like:
      • Bev Frascati , top right, who installed systems at many of JS/Data’s clients, and is still working today at Roger Williams Hospital
      • Becky Magee – (no picture, sorry) who John stole away from AR/Mediquest: “I hired Becky Magee away from them and she became a super salesperson for us.”
      • Sue Cohen , bottom right, according to Ron Young: “one of the best technical writers in the industry. She wrote and typed every single user manual for JS/Data by herself, an amazing technical writer.”
  • 4. Exeunt, Stage Right
    • So what happened to JS/Data ?Check out this cover of Healthcare Computing and Communications circa 1984, that features many of the key players in JS/Data’s fate (from left to right):
      • Rick Adam – the boss at Baxter Travenol Laboratories
      • Frank Russo – who headed up StonyBrook systems
      • Steve Dougherty – who headed sales at DCC
      • John Sacco – JS/Data CEO
      • Ron Young – JS/Data COO
  • 5. Baxter/ Travenol / AHS
    • Like DCC, JS/Data was acquired , by Baxter in 1984 (who themselves had merged with Travenol and American Hospital Supply), creating an offering of 3-tiers of HIS:
      • JS Data – on IBM’s Sys36, called “Alpha” for <100 beds
      • Dynamic Control – running on IBM’s Sys 38, which they called “Delta” and sold to mid-size sites of 1–300 beds
      • “ Stony Brook Systems ” = IBM “PCS/ADS” mainframe software for large AMCs and IDNs named “Omega.”
    • So Baxter/Travenol now covered the waterfront, with products for every size hospital, and JS Data was their stellar “low-end” option, targeted to small, under 100 bed community hospitals.
  • 6. Internecine Warfare
    • Steve Kilgus points out the problem Baxter hit:
      • The line between Alpha (JS Data) and Delta (Dynamic Control) was a rather thin one as, in fact, JS Data had a number of hospitals at or over 100 beds, just like DCC had many under!
      • Baxter allowed prospects to chose between them, running demos and giving bids for both so the hospital could pick…
    • Sounds magnanimous, but it drove Baxter sales people crazy in that they were basically competing with each other!
      • Let alone R&D programmers at HQ who were loathe to share product development with the “enemy” in the next cube…
    • Isn’t it wonderful how much progress we’ve made today:
      • Leading vendors like McKesson, Siemens, Meditech, etc., have learned to offer but a single product to concentrate all their sales and R&D on… no product overlap for them!
  • 7. Merger-Mania Continued!
    • Baxter reached ≈300 hospitals on JS-Data, making it one of the best-selling small-hospital systems of the 1980s.
    • Since all 3 of the supply giant’s products ran on IBM ,
      • (Alpha on Sys 36, Delta on Sys 38, and Omega on mainframes)
    • T heir next move was predictable: “partner” with IBM !
    • What do you call the combination of IBM and Baxter ?
    • Why: I BAX of course, the “next big thing” in 1989 HIS, who immediately re-named their 3 acquired products:
    • JS Data/Alpha became Series 3000
    • DCC/Delta became Series 4000
    • Mainframe/Omega = Series 5000
    • Got it? Good because it’s all gonna change with the next merger…
  • 8. One More Time…
    • IBAX grew to 800 employees, and was headquartered in Hauppage, Long Island, close to Stony Brook Hospital, the site of mainframe software “Omega’s” development.
    • CEO of the new firm was Frank Russo
      • Former CIO at Stony Brook University Hospital
      • Who built Omega using IBM’s “PCS/ADS”
      • IBM’s tools for “roll your own” mainframe sites,
      • Which evolved from the “Duke/Parkland” System.
    • Needless to say, IBAX too was open to offers…
      • And in 1994 HBOC bought them and their ≈600 clients!
      • JS Data (Series 3000) was “merged” with DCC (4000) to make
      • “ Series 2000,” later shortened to just “Series,” in which pieces of JS-Data’s RPG code still runs in hundreds of hospitals today!
  • 9. The HIS “Family?”
    • So what’s with all the paisans at HIS vendors:
      • Frank Russ o at Baxter
      • John Sacc o & Bev Frascat i at JS Data
      • Bob Pagnott a at MDS and Tymshare
      • John DePierr o ay Gamut & MDT
      • Neal Pappalard o and Larry Polimen o at Meditech
    • As for SMS, well it might as well have been from Palermo as King of Prussia:
        • Tony Sammartin o
        • Sam Ziviell o
        • Rick Folin o
        • Vince Ciott i
        • Bob Roman i
        • Tony Miriglian i
        • Peg Micell i
    • Ah well, I’m sure it’s just a coincidence…
  • 10. And Where’s John Sacco Today?
    • Working hard! Check out this amazing coincidence:
      • My daughter made a major mistake, and followed in her Dad’s footsteps into healthcare, first as a Travelers Nurse…
      • She travelled all over, & got nice experience using various HIS-es,
      • Then took a job at UCLA Medical Center
      • on an “epic” Epic implementation.
      • So who was her Project Manager at UCLA?
      • You guessed it:
        • John Sacco!
      • John has since retired, and is moving
        • to the south of France:
        • “ Vive La Provence!”
      • - John, save me some vino!!
  • 11. What’s Next?
    • Here’s some interesting ideas from recent emails:
      • Cornelius Mcloughlin – from NYU - [email_address]
        • Are you planning on reporting some of the first Laboratory Systems? 
        • I am familiar with Clindata from BSL, Berkeley Scientific Labs, 1970.
        • Also: Spear (Sperry-Rand?) and DNA (Diversified Numeric Analysis)
        • Those of us still around from the late 60s-early 70s would be interested!
      • Walter Tanenbaum - [email_address]
        • Why don’t you do one on consulting firms.  That would be a kick!
        • I was CIO (or whatever it was called then) at Montefiore in 1970;
        • Was recruited by KPMG in 1980 at the beginning of their HCIT practice;
        • Recruited back to Montefiore in 81/ 82; went back to KPMG in 1987;
        • Founded my own firm, The FLEX Group, in 1987
      • Thanks also to many others who have sent in encouraging emails on their HIS experiences. Keep those cards & letters coming in!
    • Please send any contributions to: [email_address]