Your SlideShare is downloading. ×
Fate in the iliad
Upcoming SlideShare
Loading in...5

Thanks for flagging this SlideShare!

Oops! An error has occurred.


Saving this for later?

Get the SlideShare app to save on your phone or tablet. Read anywhere, anytime - even offline.

Text the download link to your phone

Standard text messaging rates apply

Fate in the iliad


Published on

  • Be the first to comment

  • Be the first to like this

No Downloads
Total Views
On Slideshare
From Embeds
Number of Embeds
Embeds 0
No embeds

Report content
Flagged as inappropriate Flag as inappropriate
Flag as inappropriate

Select your reason for flagging this presentation as inappropriate.

No notes for slide


  • 1. FATE IN THE ILIAD Red figure pot, Rape of Cassandra 430 B.C. A PHILOSOPHICAL OR LITERARY DEVICE?
  • 2. AIMS AND OBJECTIVES Aims: To develop themes of fate in the Iliad. Objectives: 1. 2. 3. 4. Students will discuss the nature of fate. Students will evaluate Homers use of fate in the Iliad. Students will identify key passages & quotes to illustrate their opinions. Students will discuss the exam questions from a past paper.
  • 3. AN EXAM QUESTION TO CONSIDER: • In the Iliad fate makes all the actions of mortal and immortal characters pointless. Discuss.
  • 4. WHAT IS FATE? • What is your definition of fate? • Do you believe in fate? • Can fate and freewill co-exist? • Can fate and morality co-exist? • If fate can be altered is it still fate?
  • 5. • Zeus and Hera, Renaissance statue.
  • 6. FATE IN MYTHOLOGY • In theory everyone believed that your fate was controlled by the three weavers called ‘the fates’. • You died when your thread was cut. • You had an allotted fate and could not exceed it. • Gods are bound by fate with the exception of Zeus whose relationship is more complicated.
  • 7. ZEUS AND FATE • Book 4 lines 8-19 suggest Troy’s fate is not fixed. • Zeus is goading his wife but if fate is totally fixed why does it have an effect? • Is this a literary device to create tension? • If Zeus had made peace what other ‘fates’ would have been broken?
  • 8. • The Death of Sarpedon, Red Figure pot 550 B.C. by Euphronius
  • 9. ZEUS AND FATE 2 1. Zeus won’t intervene to protect his own son, Sarpedon. 2. In Book 15 lines 62-70 Sarpedon’s fate is fixed. 3. However in Book 16 lines 434 – 440 Zeus debates saving his life. 4. Zeus never actually changes a prophesised fate.
  • 10. SOME KEY POINT IN BOOKS 1-6 • Zeus and Thetis Book 1 lines 522 – 528. • The Greeks almost go home Book 2 line 156. • Athene enforces fate Book 5 line 673. • Hector and fate Book 6 lines 487- 494. Find other 2 other examples in the text that you think would help you answer the exam question.
  • 11. SOME OF MY THOUGHTS ON FATE IN HOMER • Fate is immutable but we can choose how we met it. • Zeus has the power to change fate but is aware that the consequences are not worth it. • Mortals always seem to act as if their fate can be changed. • There is no consistent depiction of fate.