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Secularization ii

  1. 3. Secularization II
  2. 4. ?s <ul><li>Subtraction thesis </li></ul><ul><li>Sociological reality </li></ul><ul><li>Modern malaise </li></ul>
  3. 6. Approaches <ul><li>History - they agree </li></ul><ul><li>Weber - ideas generate </li></ul><ul><li>Marx - economics generate </li></ul><ul><ul><li>struggle </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Sensorium, sensual, materialism </li></ul></ul>
  4. 7. Marcel Gauchet The Disenchantement of the World A Political History of Religion <ul><li>Primeaval religion </li></ul><ul><li>State </li></ul><ul><li>Monotheism </li></ul><ul><li>Christianity </li></ul><ul><li>Religion Dies </li></ul>
  5. 8. Marcel Gauchet <ul><li>Problems? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Primeaval? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Essences give possibilities? </li></ul></ul>
  6. 9. Charles Taylor A Secular Age <ul><li>Secularity 1,2,3 </li></ul><ul><li>Generated within theology - like Weber </li></ul><ul><li>Social Imaginary </li></ul>
  7. 10. Charles Taylor A Secular Age <ul><li>Immanent Frame </li></ul><ul><li>Buffered Self </li></ul><ul><li>Disenchantment </li></ul><ul><li>Mobilization </li></ul><ul><li>Nova Effect </li></ul>
  8. 11. Taylor <ul><li>Problems - Western, others? </li></ul>
  9. 18. Joseph Lough Weber and the Persistence of Religion <ul><li>a very strange thing, abounding in metaphysical subtleties and theological niceties. So far as it is a use value, there is nothing mysterious about it… But as soon as it emerges as a commodity, it changes into a thing which transcends sensousness…” Marx – Capital </li></ul>
  10. 19. “ Value suddenly presents itself as a self-moving substance which passes through a process of its own, and for which commodities and money are mere forms” Marx Capital
  11. 20. Lough <ul><li>1300s first isolated value - from its material form and then it retreated into the sublime interior </li></ul><ul><li>Virgin Mary </li></ul><ul><li>Wounds of Jesus </li></ul><ul><li>Eucharist </li></ul><ul><li>Money </li></ul><ul><li>Time </li></ul>
  12. 22. Garafalo Ascension of Christ 1510-20
  13. 23. Lough - Consequences <ul><li>From 900- 1450 less than 1/2 million died for state </li></ul><ul><li>1500s increase 40 fold - 8 million </li></ul><ul><li>1700s 18 million </li></ul><ul><li>1800s 48 million </li></ul><ul><li>1900s 188 million </li></ul>
  14. 24. Lough Consequences <ul><li>.6% of population in 1700s </li></ul><ul><li>1+% in 1800s </li></ul><ul><li>4.5% in 1900s </li></ul><ul><li>“ the intimate relationship between contemporary spirituality and the value form of the commodity has formed a substance more toxic than any other in history” </li></ul><ul><li>But historical, not unchanging </li></ul><ul><li>problems? </li></ul>
  15. 25. What is Religion?
  16. 26. Talal Asad <ul><li>Is secularism a colonial imposition, an entire worldview that gives precedence to the material over the spiritual, a modern culture of alienation and unrestrained pleasure? Or is it necessary to universal humanism, a rational principle that calls for the suppression… of religious passion so that a dangerous source of intolerance and delusion can be controlled and political unity, peace and progress secured?” Asad Genealogies, 21 </li></ul>
  17. 27. Belief? <ul><li>Include? Exclude? Why? By Whom? With what consequences? </li></ul>
  18. 28. Belief <ul><li>Christian History - Reformation - Gauchet </li></ul><ul><li>Locke’s Toleration </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Autonomous minds </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>What of seduction and coercion of the market? </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Other forms of collectivity? Mutual Aid, conformity </li></ul></ul>
  19. 29. Tomoko Masuzawa The Invention of World Religions <ul><li>4 parts -Christian, Jew Mohammaden and others </li></ul><ul><li>Now Bunch of “World Religions” </li></ul><ul><li>Toleration? </li></ul><ul><li>Universals? </li></ul><ul><li>Comparative Philology - Indo-European roots </li></ul><ul><li>Belief? </li></ul>
  20. 32. Other Models: Sensorium <ul><li>Changing Sensorium </li></ul><ul><li>Ritual as Repressive? </li></ul><ul><li>Belief a freeing? </li></ul>
  21. 33. Moderate Islam and US imperialism today
  22. 34. Sum Up <ul><li>What generates modernity? </li></ul><ul><li>How are capitalism, theology and politics related? </li></ul><ul><li>What is the form of modern religiosity and its possibilities? </li></ul><ul><li>Sort of Weberian // Gauchet--Taylor </li></ul><ul><li>Sort of Marxist// Lough--Asad--Masuzawa </li></ul>

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