Socialized Medicine - A Dirty Word? - Presentation Transcript
Dr Colin Mitchell, MRCP Specialist Registrar in Geriatrics/ General Internal Medicine North Western Deanery, Manchester, UK
Objectives
Compare my experiences of two healthcare systems, in the UK and USA
Analyze the differences in delivery, ideology, outcomes, and funding
Elucidate why both systems are felt to be ‘failing’
Evaluate the options for improving healthcare
Try not to make any glaring errors
Try not to offend everybody
Background and Bias
Full Disclosure & Potential Biases
My biases
What are yours?
Our role
Do we, as doctors, have a role in promoting health and healthcare within our sphere of control?
Or are we just treating the patient in front of us?
The NHS
Created after WW2 as part of a series of welfare reforms
High quality healthcare, “free at the point of need”
Structure has changed, philosophy remains the same
Entirely funded from taxation
Every British national, visa-holder or refugee has a GP
All care coordinated through GP, holds patients records and issues all repeat prescriptions.
Only other charges are for prescriptions (around $14, often waived) and for long-term personal care / nursing homes.
Being an NHS Doctor
Undergraduate
5 to 6 year undergraduate degree (-$6k/yr)
Junior Doctor
3 to 4 years as a junior trainee (avg $70k/yr, 50 hr wk)
GP (Primary care) or Specialty track
1 year as a GP trainee
or 5 years in a specialty ($90-100k/yr, 50hr wk)
GPs/consultants earn $140-340k/yr
Top rate of taxation is 40% (>$50k)
My Experience at MUSC
Familiarities
Team working, camaraderie, humour
Striving for high-quality care
Frustration at the system
Frustration at orthopaedic surgeons
Differences
Lower patient load, but intensive hours, high expectations
No wards
Rapid but effective training
Useful medical students
Sickle Cell Disease
Choosing medicines based on the Walmart $4 list
ICU Admissions
End of Life – Philosophy and Cost
Major difference in ICU provision
Edinburgh (pop 500,000) has:
38 ICU beds (level 2-3)
37 HDU beds (level 1-2), mostly surgical
Generally, old with multiple comorbidities don’t get ventilated
Policy is not guideline or evidence-based, and is variable
Morning report – “America – where death is seen as optional”
Few advance directives, many DNR decisions
Anecdotally, much easier to discuss DNR in the UK
Push towards ‘good’ death rather than life-extension
Personal Biases
Liberal, libertarian / socialist?
Personal preference for
Use of Clinical Skills
Geriatric Medicine
Generalists vs Specialists / partialists
Healthcare as a right
Strong possibility of working in the US
Personal interest in remuneration for generalists
My fiancee loves US healthcare
Philosophy & Politics of Healthcare
Equity vs opportunity (can’t we have both?)
Healthcare as a right?
Von Hayek
“… in the case of sickness or accident… the case for the state helping to organise a comprehensive system of social insurance is very strong… there is no incompatibility in principle between the state providing greater security in this way and the preservation of individual freedom .”
What is minimum provision?
Is it cost effective?
Who decides what is appropriate?
Should the rich still be pay for whatever they want?
“ Socialized” Medicine? A dirty word?
Philosophy & Politics of Healthcare
Equity vs opportunity (can’t we have both?)
Healthcare as a right?
Von Hayek
“… in the case of sickness or accident… the case for the state helping to organise a comprehensive system of social insurance is very strong… there is no incompatibility in principle between the state providing greater security in this way and the preservation of individual freedom.”
What is minimum provision?
Is it cost effective?
Who decides what is appropriate?
Should the rich still get whatever they want?
“ Socialized” Medicine? A dirty word
Nationalized Medicine - Almost patriotic
One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project…
C O M M U N I S M Join the Party!
Ideological Investment
Ideology is a poor driver, outcomes are more important
UK: Free, fair, equitable access (mostly)
National health
US: Opportunity, freedom, make your own luck (mostly)
Free market healthcare
Do our healthcare systems really reflect this?
UK: Not free, but relatively cheap, and fair(ish)
US: Market - yes, free market – no.
Covert / Overt Rationing
Whether we like it or not, we work within a system
Healthcare is expensive and getting more so
Therefore care must be rationed somehow
Overt or Covert rationing?
Means or needs-based rationing?
How can we reconcile this inevitability with a duty to do the best for our patient?
Treating individuals?
Example - Statin therapy
Undoubtedly a major step forward in prevention of cardiovascular events / mortality
Widely felt to be cost-effective
Quality indicators mandate prescription in many circumstances
Statins – Primary Prevention
Case scenario:
48y/o male, diabetic, non-smoker.
No other PMH.
BP 135/88
Cholesterol 230, HDL 30
Framingham 10-year CHD risk is 16%
To prevent MI, Stroke & Death over 10 years:
What is the NNT for this risk profile?
Statins - NNT
Recent statin data for type 2 DM weaker
For this risk profile…
According to 1999 JAMA meta-analaysis:
OR 0.78 for ‘all bad things’ / 5 years
NNT over 10yrs is 16
According to 2008 Lancet meta-analysis:
OR 0.91 for ‘all bad things in DM’ / 5 years
NNT over 10 years is 40
We’re already treating populations, not patients
Free Market?
Milton Friedman, interviewed in 2006
“ Instead of letting people hire their own physicians and pay them, no one pays his or her own medical bills. Instead, there’s a third party payment system. It is a communist system and it has a communist result… The end result is third party payment and, worst of all, third party treatment”
“ I’m from the government. I’m here to help”
Cui expendo?
Summary – Part I
Bias affects rational thinking. Be aware of yours
We all work within a system, and can change it
We are all treating groups / populations
Socialized medicine ≠ communism
US Healthcare ≠ free market
US Healthcare is expensive. Is it better?
Comparing Healthcare
Methods of Comparison
Comparing complex systems is difficult
Observational data
Multiple confounders
Large-scale outcomes
Life expectancy, infant mortality (WHO)
Smaller, more direct national comparisons
Cancer survival, transplant survival, suicide, asthma mortality, suicide rate, vaccination rate, cancer screening rates (OECD), HbA1C (health surveys)
User surveys (Commonwealth Fund)
NHS vs Kaiser Permanente (CA) study
OECD (2005)
OECD Performance Indicators
NHS vs Kaiser Permanente
Controversial economic study in 2002
Found Kaiser’s performance in every area to be equivalent or better, at similar cost
Costs per capita:
Kaiser $1951
NHS $1402, or with purchasing power parity: $1764
Analysis felt to be flawed due to
Usual ‘complex systems’ problem
Poor selection of comparison data
PPP ‘fudge’ factor
Kaiser patients mostly recruited through employment plans therefore substantially healthier
Diabetes in the US and UK
2006 study compared diabetes management between adults in England (14000) and the US (5400)
Notably lower incidence in England (2.7% vs 5.0%)
Underdiagnosis?
Adjustments made for age and socioeconomic factors
HbA1C On ACE-I England 7.6 39% US (insured) 7.5 39% US (uninsured) 8.6 14%
WHOSIS
Commonwealth Fund (2007)
Cherry Picking?
Comparisons - Summary
Comparing health systems is difficult
Overall, minor differences between outcomes in the US and UK
Insured population in the US maybe getting slightly better care
Uninsured worse off
Best in the world? Probably neither US nor UK
Failing Systems
Is the NHS Failing?
Much beloved in the UK
No fear of personal health catastrophe
Free at point of need – what does it cost?
Regional and urban/rural variation
Political hot-potato
Chronic underfunding, better recently
Inefficiency death-spiral
Move towards internal markets
Private sector involvement
NHS – Where are we going?
Predictions of doom for 20+ years
Recent problems with paying for:
Cancer drugs (eg Avastin, Herceptin)
Procedures (eg drug-eluting stents)
Rationing becoming increasingly covert
Introduction of the private sector
Death knell for the NHS?
Or creation of a two-tier system
Despite this fear, proportion of private expenditure remains stable (15%)
Is US Healthcare ‘Failing’?
US is only major developed country without some form of nationalized health care
Debate re: fairness of free-market solution
This isn’t a free-market solution
Healthcare complex to ‘purchase’, sellers hold the cards
Private health insurers / providers are profit maximizers, not cost-reducers.
Drop chronic diseases / attract healthy preferentially
Commonwealth fund data: K. Davis, C. Schoen, S. C. Schoenbaum, M. M. Doty, A. L. Holmgren, J. L. Kriss, and K. K. Shea, Mirror, Mirror on the Wall: An International Update on the Comparative Performance of American Health Care, The Commonwealth Fund, May 2007
Feachem et al, “Getting more for their dollar: a comparison of the NHS and California’s Kaiser Permanente”. BMJ (2002) Vol 324
Skidmore (1989) “Ronald Reagan and Operation Coffeecup: A Hidden Episode in American Political History”, Journal of American Culture Vol 12 (3)
OECD Data – http://www.oecd.org
Bodenheimer T (2006) “Primary Care – Will It Survive?” NEJM 355(9)
FT/Harris Poll for the Financial Times – June 2008
Mainous et al (2006) “Diabetes management in the USA and England: comparative analysis of national surveys” J R Soc Med 2006(99)
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