UAC Year 10 Presentation Choosing HSC courses:  facts and myths May 2010
Overview <ul><li>HSC and beyond </li></ul><ul><li>Focus on the uni option </li></ul><ul><li>ATAR facts and myths </li></ul...
Choosing your HSC courses <ul><li>It’s important to consider </li></ul><ul><li>What you are good at  </li></ul><ul><li>Wha...
Post-school options <ul><li>University  </li></ul><ul><li>TAFE </li></ul><ul><li>Other higher education providers </li></u...
What do you need? <ul><li>A checklist . . . </li></ul><ul><li>…  for Uni, TAFE, other providers </li></ul><ul><li>How do I...
Going to university <ul><li>There are many pathways but most involve the HSC  </li></ul><ul><li>For most courses selection...
HSC facts <ul><li>To do the HSC you need to complete at least 12 units in Year 11 and at least 10 units in Year 12.  </li>...
Your HSC marks <ul><li>For your HSC you will receive two marks for each course: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>School assessment – ...
Your HSC marks <ul><li>provide information about how well you have achieved in  EACH  of the courses you have completed; <...
ATAR facts <ul><li>Your ATAR … </li></ul><ul><li>provides information about how well you have performed  OVERALL  against ...
Calculating your ATAR <ul><li>To get an ATAR you need at least ten units of Board Developed courses – these are HSC course...
Scaling <ul><li>Different HSC courses have very different groups of students studying them. To create an even playing fiel...
Calculating your ATAR <ul><li>Once your marks are scaled an aggregate mark is calculated using your best two units of Engl...
What courses should you choose to get a good ATAR? <ul><li>Myths. . . </li></ul><ul><li>Choose hard courses – they will be...
More myths <ul><li>Don’t choose a VET course – you won’t get a good ATAR. </li></ul><ul><li>False – it doesn’t matter what...
Still more questions… <ul><li>Do I get a better ATAR if I study more than 10 units? </li></ul><ul><li>Not necessarily, but...
2013 Year 10 Booklet
Important symbols <ul><li>P  = Course prerequisites </li></ul><ul><li>SP  = Subject prerequisites </li></ul><ul><li>A  = A...
In summary… <ul><li>How do I get a good ATAR? </li></ul><ul><li>Choose courses that </li></ul><ul><li>- you are interested...
Finally… <ul><li>Thank you for your attendance and your attention </li></ul><ul><li>Use your UAC Year 10 Booklet to help y...
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  • Welcome etc … exciting time … many challenges and potentially stressful … BUT less stress if you plan well. The Universities Admissions Centre (NSW and ACT) processes applications for admission to most undergraduate degree, advanced diploma, diploma and associate diploma courses at participating institutions in NSW and the ACT – as well as Australian Maritime College (Tas), Latrobe University (Vic), and Griffith University (Gold Coast campus). The UAC Year 10 booklet (hold a copy up … we’ll talk about it later) lists participating institutions on the outside back cover. UAC also calculates and releases ATARs.
  • The purpose of this presentation is to give you (Year 10 students) some information that will help guide your selection of HSC courses and the direction of your academic future. There will be a focus on the option of university study … a look at some myths and rumours about the ATAR … and mention of the UAC Year 10 booklet. We’ll start with choice of HSC courses.
  • The basic ingredient for success is to choose courses that you find interesting. This means you will enjoy learning and studying, and this will lead to better marks. You also need to be clear about your goals … where you are heading … and what will help you get there.
  • Let’s look at your options. Can you think of any others? Yes … travel … or a combination of work and study (such as an apprenticeship). The most important thing is to think about what you are interested in, and find careers that are related to your interests.
  • OK, so once you’ve decided where you’re heading, the next step is to make sure you’re on the right track. It’s about doing all you can to set yourself up for success! If you’re looking at tertiary study … either uni, TAFE or another institution such as the Institute of Music – or one of the many private providers – be clear about their application process and any prerequisites. We’ll get back to this later. It’s also useful to think about the flexibility that’s available to you. Remember that to transfer from TAFE to uni you need to be competitive. Some students get a good, competitive ATAR and choose to go to TAFE because a course is more hands-on or practical … or to do typing or computer skills before starting uni. But if you go to TAFE because your ATAR isn’t high enough for a uni offer, you will need to look at options for becoming more competitive should you want to transfer.
  • We’ll now focus on the university option. For Year 12 students in NSW, your ATAR is the main selection criteria. A few courses have other prerequisites such as portfolios (visual arts and design courses), interviews … or special tests such as UMAT (medicine, optometry) or STAT (pharmacy, vet science). Sometimes you may receive bonus points (for living in a particular region, for a successful application under an Educational Access Scheme, or for strong performance in a particular HSC subject) which may be considered in conjunction with your ATAR.
  • As the major milestone on your continuing journey is the HSC, let’s look at some HSC facts. Teachers/Careers Advisers may wish to add details here about which courses are being offered by the school – and whether they are Category A or B courses.
  • Teachers/Careers Advisers may wish to add some explanation here about school assessments and how moderation removes differences between teachers and schools related to difficulty of tasks and marking standards.
  • Your HSC gives you a mark for EACH subject.
  • Ranking is like a swimming race where you are competing against others. Your aim is to do your best.
  • Remember, the ATAR requirements are different to what’s required to get a HSC. Your teachers can help you with what courses the school offers, and with making sure you have the right number of units.
  • Scaling is done so marks can be compared. This makes the process of ranking as fair as possible.
  • No more than 2 units of Category B courses can be included in your ATAR. This does not mean that you can’t do Category B courses, you just have to make sure that you will have enough units to be eligible for an ATAR.
  • There are many myths and rumours surrounding the ATAR and how scaling effects different subjects.
  • Again, your teachers can help you with making sure you have the correct number of units. The most important thing to remember is that you need to do your best. And you’re more likely to do well at subjects you are interested in – and that you enjoy.
  • Your ATAR is calculated on 10 units - your BEST 2 units of English and your BEST 8 other units (with no more than 2 units of Category B) Your assessment marks are moderated to remove differences between schools … and ALL students do the same HSC exams for each subject.
  • This UAC publication is now available to schools and to Year 10 students aiming to apply for University entrance in 2013. Four reference copies are provided to schools free-of-charge; additional copies can be ordered from UAC Shop – see Schoolink on UAC’s website at www.uac.edu.au for details. On pages 7-8 is an excellent overview of the areas of study offered by institutions, and their general requirements. On pages 83-84 is a general guide to which institutions offer which areas of study.
  • This important information is found on page 9 of the Year 10 Booklet … Course prerequisites (P): Some courses require you to have achieved a specific standard in an HSC course or equivalent before you will be offered a place in the course. If you do not have the required course prerequisite/s, you cannot be selected for the institution’s course even though you may have met the admission requirements. Subject prerequisites (SP): Some subjects in a tertiary course require that you have achieved a specific standard in an HSC course or equivalent before you are able to enrol in those particular subjects. If you do not have the required subject prerequisite/s but have met the admission requirements for the course, you may still be selected for the course but unable to take the particular subject. Assumed knowledge (A): Some institutions assume you have a knowledge of specific HSC courses or equivalent before you begin the course. If you do not have the assumed level of knowledge but do have a suitable UAI, you may still be selected for the course but you may find some difficulty coping with your studies. Recommended studies (R): These are HSC or equivalent or other courses that the institutions suggest will assist you in your chosen tertiary course. If you have not studied these HSC courses, your chances of selection are not affected.
  • As the ATAR is a rank, where your performance is being compared against everyone else’s, the only thing you can control is how well you do.
  • Your school has reference copies of the Year 10 Booklet. Additional copies can be ordered through UAC’s website at www.uac.edu.au – click on Schoolink for details.
  • Year 10-UAC 2010

    1. 1. UAC Year 10 Presentation Choosing HSC courses: facts and myths May 2010
    2. 2. Overview <ul><li>HSC and beyond </li></ul><ul><li>Focus on the uni option </li></ul><ul><li>ATAR facts and myths </li></ul><ul><li>UAC Year 10 booklet </li></ul><ul><li>Summary </li></ul>
    3. 3. Choosing your HSC courses <ul><li>It’s important to consider </li></ul><ul><li>What you are good at </li></ul><ul><li>What you are interested in </li></ul><ul><li>What you think you might want to do when you leave school </li></ul>
    4. 4. Post-school options <ul><li>University </li></ul><ul><li>TAFE </li></ul><ul><li>Other higher education providers </li></ul><ul><li>Work </li></ul>
    5. 5. What do you need? <ul><li>A checklist . . . </li></ul><ul><li>… for Uni, TAFE, other providers </li></ul><ul><li>How do I get in? </li></ul><ul><li>What HSC courses will be most useful? </li></ul><ul><li>Can I transfer from one to the other? </li></ul><ul><li> eg TAFE -> university </li></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>University -> TAFE </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Work -> TAFE or university </li></ul></ul></ul>
    6. 6. Going to university <ul><li>There are many pathways but most involve the HSC </li></ul><ul><li>For most courses selection is on the basis of the Australian Tertiary Admission Rank (ATAR) </li></ul>
    7. 7. HSC facts <ul><li>To do the HSC you need to complete at least 12 units in Year 11 and at least 10 units in Year 12. </li></ul><ul><li>English is compulsory. </li></ul><ul><li>At least six units must be in courses examined by the Board of Studies. </li></ul>
    8. 8. Your HSC marks <ul><li>For your HSC you will receive two marks for each course: </li></ul><ul><ul><li>School assessment – based on school tests and essays etc </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Examination mark – based on the HSC examination </li></ul></ul><ul><li>These marks indicate the standard you have reached in the course. </li></ul>
    9. 9. Your HSC marks <ul><li>provide information about how well you have achieved in EACH of the courses you have completed; </li></ul><ul><li>are reported against standards; </li></ul><ul><li>are provided by the Board of Studies. </li></ul>
    10. 10. ATAR facts <ul><li>Your ATAR … </li></ul><ul><li>provides information about how well you have performed OVERALL against other students; </li></ul><ul><li>allows you to be compared with other students who have completed different combinations of courses; </li></ul><ul><li>is a RANK , not a mark; and </li></ul><ul><li>is provided by UAC. </li></ul>
    11. 11. Calculating your ATAR <ul><li>To get an ATAR you need at least ten units of Board Developed courses – these are HSC courses that are examined by the Board of Studies. Your teachers will tell you which courses do not count. </li></ul><ul><li>Your ATAR is based on your best two units of English and the best eight units from your remaining courses. </li></ul>
    12. 12. Scaling <ul><li>Different HSC courses have very different groups of students studying them. To create an even playing field actual marks need to be adjusted before they are added. This is called scaling. </li></ul><ul><li>What scaling does is to calculate what your mark and your position would be if all courses were studied by all students. </li></ul>
    13. 13. Calculating your ATAR <ul><li>Once your marks are scaled an aggregate mark is calculated using your best two units of English and the best eight of your remaining units. </li></ul><ul><li>Aggregate marks lie between 0 and 500. </li></ul><ul><li>Your position is then determined and your ATAR calculated. </li></ul>
    14. 14. What courses should you choose to get a good ATAR? <ul><li>Myths. . . </li></ul><ul><li>Choose hard courses – they will be “scaled up”. </li></ul><ul><li>This may be true, but if you don’t do well you are still likely to have a low scaled mark. </li></ul><ul><li>Choose easy courses – you will do better and the scaling won’t matter. </li></ul><ul><li>This may be true, but you may have to do really well to get a good mark. </li></ul>
    15. 15. More myths <ul><li>Don’t choose a VET course – you won’t get a good ATAR. </li></ul><ul><li>False – it doesn’t matter what course you do … it is still possible to get a good ATAR. But remember that you can only include two units from Category B courses. </li></ul><ul><li>Choose courses with a high percentage of students in Band 6. </li></ul><ul><li>False – the ATAR is based on the actual marks you get, and is not affected by the percentage of students in Band 6. </li></ul>
    16. 16. Still more questions… <ul><li>Do I get a better ATAR if I study more than 10 units? </li></ul><ul><li>Not necessarily, but if you have the ability it may be worthwhile to broaden the scope of your studies </li></ul><ul><li>Does my school matter? </li></ul><ul><li>NO!!! Your ATAR depends on how well you do. </li></ul>
    17. 17. 2013 Year 10 Booklet
    18. 18. Important symbols <ul><li>P = Course prerequisites </li></ul><ul><li>SP = Subject prerequisites </li></ul><ul><li>A = Assumed knowledge </li></ul><ul><li>R = Recommended studies </li></ul><ul><li>N = None </li></ul>
    19. 19. In summary… <ul><li>How do I get a good ATAR? </li></ul><ul><li>Choose courses that </li></ul><ul><li>- you are interested in, </li></ul><ul><li>- you are good at, </li></ul><ul><li>- will be useful/relevant for what you want to do. </li></ul><ul><li>Work hard </li></ul><ul><li>Have a life </li></ul><ul><li>Ignore the ATAR and rumours about it </li></ul>
    20. 20. Finally… <ul><li>Thank you for your attendance and your attention </li></ul><ul><li>Use your UAC Year 10 Booklet to help you choose HSC courses. </li></ul>

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