The Future of Web Apps 2006/09 馮彥文 2006/12/03
Agenda <ul><li>Digg </li></ul><ul><li>Del.icio.us </li></ul><ul><li>Feedburner </li></ul><ul><li>Odeo </li></ul><ul><li>Wo...
The Future of Web Apps <ul><li>San Francisco, 13-14 September 2006 </li></ul><ul><li>Palace of Fine Arts Theater </li></ul...
Digg
Digg <ul><li>Kevin Rose, Founder and Chief Architect </li></ul><ul><li>Drop from CS in Univ. of Nevada, Las Vegas </li></u...
Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views <ul><li>Background </li></ul><ul><ul><li>$2,000 to start, u...
Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views <ul><li>Now </li></ul><ul><ul><li>500k registered users  </...
Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views <ul><li>Learned </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Everything on Digg is...
Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views
Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views
Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views
Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views <ul><li>Learned </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Scalability:  inside ...
Del.icio.us
Del.icio.us <ul><li>Joshua Schachter, Founder, worked in Morgan Stanley when starting del.icio.us </li></ul><ul><li>Also c...
Del.icio.us <ul><li>Systems </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Profile SQL commands </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Learn Apache </li></ul><...
Del.icio.us <ul><li>Tags </li></ul><ul><ul><li>A way for people to recall things, what they were thinking about when they ...
Del.icio.us <ul><li>Learned </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Measure behaviors rather than claims </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Features...
Del.icio.us <ul><li>Learned </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Let system fragments into different areas of attention </li></ul></ul><u...
FeedBurner
FeedBurner <ul><li>Steve Olechowski, Cofounder and COO </li></ul><ul><li>VP and PM at 724 Solutions </li></ul><ul><li>CS a...
FeedBurner: 10 things you didn’t know about RSS <ul><li>Feedburner </li></ul><ul><ul><li>400K feeds </li></ul></ul><ul><ul...
FeedBurner: 10 things you didn’t know about RSS <ul><li>A consumer device can drive a market: ipod   </li></ul><ul><li>Mor...
FeedBurner: 10 things you didn’t know about RSS <ul><li>15% of our podcasts are video </li></ul><ul><li>MyYahoo leads by a...
Odeo
Odeo <ul><li>Evan Williams, Founder and CEO </li></ul><ul><li>Co-found PyraLabs and became Blogger, then sold to Google, t...
Odeo: Selling and funding: Pros and cons of brining in a third party <ul><li>Last year article </li></ul><ul><ul><li>10 ru...
Odeo: Selling and funding: Pros and cons of brining in a third party <ul><li>Now </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Downsize to 14 peop...
Wordpress
WordPress <ul><li>Matt Mullenweg, Founder </li></ul><ul><li>Blog: www.photomatt.net </li></ul>
WordPress: The Story behind WordPress plus building user-powered apps <ul><li>Platform </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Sourceforge--...
WordPress: The Story behind WordPress plus building user-powered apps <ul><li>Operations </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Do you own ...
WordPress: The Story behind WordPress plus building user-powered apps <ul><li>akismet </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Painkiller, no...
TechCrunch
TechCrunch <ul><li>Michael Arrington, Editor, Owner of TechCrunch </li></ul><ul><li>TechCrunch was found in 06/2005 </li><...
TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>looking in winners is hard to find pattern, but l...
TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Winners </li></ul><ul><ul><li>writely, grouper, s...
TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Shared attributes of winners </li></ul><ul><ul><l...
TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Shard attributes of losers </li></ul><ul><ul><li>...
TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Platforms </li></ul><ul><ul><li>PHP (most popular...
TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Market saturation, avoid </li></ul><ul><ul><li>so...
TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Big potential </li></ul><ul><ul><li>platforms </l...
TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>the best entrepreneurs avoid this type of advice....
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  1. 1. The Future of Web Apps 2006/09 馮彥文 2006/12/03
  2. 2. Agenda <ul><li>Digg </li></ul><ul><li>Del.icio.us </li></ul><ul><li>Feedburner </li></ul><ul><li>Odeo </li></ul><ul><li>Wordpress </li></ul><ul><li>TechCrunch </li></ul>
  3. 3. The Future of Web Apps <ul><li>San Francisco, 13-14 September 2006 </li></ul><ul><li>Palace of Fine Arts Theater </li></ul><ul><li>http://www.carsonworkshops.com/summit/ </li></ul><ul><li>http:// www.futureofwebapps.com / </li></ul><ul><li>Blogs </li></ul><ul><ul><li>http://www.pocketshark.com/blog/page/tempo </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>http://www.pocketshark.com/blog/page/cjin </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Photos </li></ul><ul><ul><li>http:// www.flickr.com/photos/tempofeng </li></ul></ul>
  4. 4. Digg
  5. 5. Digg <ul><li>Kevin Rose, Founder and Chief Architect </li></ul><ul><li>Drop from CS in Univ. of Nevada, Las Vegas </li></ul><ul><li>Founded digg on 11/1/04 </li></ul>
  6. 6. Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views <ul><li>Background </li></ul><ul><ul><li>$2,000 to start, using a developer on elance for $10/hr (Mexico) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>20 hrs jobs </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>LAMP </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>$99 a month hosting </li></ul></ul>
  7. 7. Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views <ul><li>Now </li></ul><ul><ul><li>500k registered users </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>10 million pages a day </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>1 million daily unique views </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>90+ linux boxes </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Ranking: tech > politics > videos </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>15 people: 3 php, 4 performance tuning/dba </li></ul></ul>
  8. 8. Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views <ul><li>Learned </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Everything on Digg is an RSS feed </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>No Me-too features </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Make it simple; make it rewarding </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>garbage cleaning </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>delete posts, bury (threadholds) … </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>UI experimental </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>digspy, stack, ... </li></ul></ul></ul>
  9. 9. Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views
  10. 10. Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views
  11. 11. Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views
  12. 12. Digg: The digg story: from one idea to nine million page views <ul><li>Learned </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Scalability: inside livejournal's backend </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Tagging won't work on Digg </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Hire experienced DBAs </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Digg should never take away traffic </li></ul></ul>
  13. 13. Del.icio.us
  14. 14. Del.icio.us <ul><li>Joshua Schachter, Founder, worked in Morgan Stanley when starting del.icio.us </li></ul><ul><li>Also creates geoURL, Memepool </li></ul>
  15. 15. Del.icio.us <ul><li>Systems </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Profile SQL commands </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Learn Apache </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Headers, mod_rewrite, proxy </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Prepare for abuse </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Use different servers (images, RSS, API) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Make API easy </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Don’t expose your unique id </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>More RSS traffic than HTML or API </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Readable URL </li></ul></ul>
  16. 16. Del.icio.us <ul><li>Tags </li></ul><ul><ul><li>A way for people to recall things, what they were thinking about when they saved it </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Fairly useful for recall, OK for discovery, terrible for distribution </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>No automatic tags </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>No pre-defined tags </li></ul></ul>
  17. 17. Del.icio.us <ul><li>Learned </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Measure behaviors rather than claims </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Features you put in are as important as the ones you leave out </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Solve a problem you have yourself; Passion counts </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Limited audience is still good business </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Get the product out ASAP </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Beware SPAM </li></ul></ul>
  18. 18. Del.icio.us <ul><li>Learned </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Let system fragments into different areas of attention </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Systems that only become useful when lots of people are using them usually fail </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Speak the user's language. Bookmarks vs My Favorites </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>People don't read </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>It's the user's data; it's not yours </li></ul></ul>
  19. 19. FeedBurner
  20. 20. FeedBurner <ul><li>Steve Olechowski, Cofounder and COO </li></ul><ul><li>VP and PM at 724 Solutions </li></ul><ul><li>CS and Economics from Northwestern Univ. </li></ul>
  21. 21. FeedBurner: 10 things you didn’t know about RSS <ul><li>Feedburner </li></ul><ul><ul><li>400K feeds </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>20M subscribers </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Using Java </li></ul></ul><ul><li>1/8 feeds are podcast/videocast </li></ul><ul><li>More Japanese & Chinese blogs than North America & Europe </li></ul><ul><li>There is no correlation between click through rate and subscriptions growth </li></ul>
  22. 22. FeedBurner: 10 things you didn’t know about RSS <ul><li>A consumer device can drive a market: ipod </li></ul><ul><li>More text = more total traffic </li></ul><ul><li>Podcasts are more evenly distributed across categories than text feeds (still heavily tech) </li></ul><ul><li>7% of all clicks from feeds are by bots; make sure you take this into account when measuring traffic </li></ul>
  23. 23. FeedBurner: 10 things you didn’t know about RSS <ul><li>15% of our podcasts are video </li></ul><ul><li>MyYahoo leads by a large margin: 50% </li></ul><ul><li>95% people subscribe full content with ads </li></ul><ul><li>ads: brands, awareness, not selling </li></ul>
  24. 24. Odeo
  25. 25. Odeo <ul><li>Evan Williams, Founder and CEO </li></ul><ul><li>Co-found PyraLabs and became Blogger, then sold to Google, then manage Blogger group in Google til 2004 </li></ul><ul><li>Founder of twittier </li></ul>
  26. 26. Odeo: Selling and funding: Pros and cons of brining in a third party <ul><li>Last year article </li></ul><ul><ul><li>10 rules for web startups </li></ul></ul><ul><li>My 5 best odeo screw ups </li></ul><ul><ul><li>build too much </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>build for people not like ourselves </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>not adjusting fast enough </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>raising too much money, too early </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>not listening to my gut </li></ul></ul>
  27. 27. Odeo: Selling and funding: Pros and cons of brining in a third party <ul><li>Now </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Downsize to 14 people </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>On page listening </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Platform </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Rubyonrails </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Don’t talk, TYPE </li></ul><ul><li>Q&A </li></ul><ul><ul><li>revenue model </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>attach revenue model later </li></ul></ul></ul>
  28. 28. Wordpress
  29. 29. WordPress <ul><li>Matt Mullenweg, Founder </li></ul><ul><li>Blog: www.photomatt.net </li></ul>
  30. 30. WordPress: The Story behind WordPress plus building user-powered apps <ul><li>Platform </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Sourceforge-- </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Options--, plugins++ </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>API++ </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>breaking api is worse than never having any at all </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Plugins vs core: core should be 90% </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Plugins for design (themes) </li></ul></ul>
  31. 31. WordPress: The Story behind WordPress plus building user-powered apps <ul><li>Operations </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Do you own support </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Watch what they do, not what they say </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Stats pages: most viewed </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Maintenance </li></ul><ul><ul><li>All hosting sucks: 100%SLA-- </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Redundant networks and power-- </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Make Backups constantly </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Use good machine </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Make it easy to contact you </li></ul></ul>
  32. 32. WordPress: The Story behind WordPress plus building user-powered apps <ul><li>akismet </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Painkiller, not a vitamin </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Future </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Global, personal, useful, humble </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Final thoughts </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Don’t be afraid of market saturation </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Build for yourself; Passion </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Create value first, business model later </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Working for someone else is dead </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Never say can't </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Never forget how lucky you are </li></ul></ul>
  33. 33. TechCrunch
  34. 34. TechCrunch <ul><li>Michael Arrington, Editor, Owner of TechCrunch </li></ul><ul><li>TechCrunch was found in 06/2005 </li></ul><ul><li>Founder and Board Director of edgeio.com </li></ul><ul><li>Degree in Economics and Harvard Law School </li></ul>
  35. 35. TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>looking in winners is hard to find pattern, but looser has </li></ul>
  36. 36. TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Winners </li></ul><ul><ul><li>writely, grouper, skype, newroo, flickr, weblogs, myspace, bloglines, userplane, ksolo, blogger, del.icio.us </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Very good bets </li></ul><ul><ul><li>digg, facebook, youtube, photobucket*, zoho, stumbleupon, popsugar*, plentyoffish*, netvibes* </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Ones to watch </li></ul><ul><ul><li>jobster, riya, zillow, flock*, sharpcast, rocketbookm, 1-800-FREE411*, odesk, secondlife, wordpress </li></ul></ul><ul><li>What were they thinking </li></ul><ul><ul><li>inform, gather, pubsub, browzar, jigsaw*, squidoo </li></ul></ul>
  37. 37. TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Shared attributes of winners </li></ul><ul><ul><li>passion for what they are doing </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>doing something extraordinary (purple cow) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>removing serious friction </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>great founder dynamics </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>never raised big money, or raised it after they won </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Hire slow, fire fast </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>perfect revenue model not required </li></ul></ul>
  38. 38. TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Shard attributes of losers </li></ul><ul><ul><li>poor founder/team choices </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>lifestyle/ego entrepreneurs </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>raised too much money </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>spent too much money </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>over business-planned </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>forgot about scaling (friendster) </li></ul></ul>
  39. 39. TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Platforms </li></ul><ul><ul><li>PHP (most popular) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>RubyOnRails (upcoming, but facing scaling problems lately) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Java (serious apps) </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>.NET </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Client Platforms </li></ul><ul><ul><li>net, ajax, flash, xul, adobe apollo (his fave) </li></ul></ul>
  40. 40. TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Market saturation, avoid </li></ul><ul><ul><li>social networking </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>social bookmarks </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>video </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>photos </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>blogging/podcasting </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>portals/homepages </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>feedreaders </li></ul></ul>
  41. 41. TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>Big potential </li></ul><ul><ul><li>platforms </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>desktop apps </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>office efficiency </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>cloud storage </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>identity </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>developer tools </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>market destruction </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>enterprise </li></ul></ul>
  42. 42. TechCrunch: What's next for web apps: building tomorrow's Flickr <ul><li>the best entrepreneurs avoid this type of advice. invent a new market </li></ul><ul><li>Digg is my 1st pick if I’m going to work for one of them </li></ul>
  43. 43. Thank You !

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