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  • cwhisna February 13, 2010 GROW BY LEARNING
  • To Bloggers Everywhere Charles E. Whisnant, on Grow By Learning Blogger. Posts from May 2009 thru August 2009. I hope you will enjoy these articles, and photos. 1
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  • Contents Eric and Leslie's new born and our granddaughter 8 Very Proud of our Granddaughter 8 A GOOD WEEK 9 OKAY WE ARE GRANDPARENTS OKAY 10 Sharing the Gospel and God's Divine Election 10 Sharing the Gospel & God's Divine Election Part Two 11 Wallace York a man to be remembered 12 Sideshow: God, Satan, and Miss USA 13 MY LOVELY SISTER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS 14 PREACHING AND THE LISTENERS? 17 CHARLES E. WHISANANT CAN BE FOUND ON 17 NOW WHO DO YOU THINK THIS LOVELY LITTLE GRANDDAUGHTER IS 18 A DAY WITH CHARITY WAS GREAT 19 Pastoral Leadership Paul's Method Part One and Two 20 Why All the Best Preachers Are--What a Concept!--Theological 22 EVOLUTION IS STILL IN THE NEWS IN 2009 23 How To Talk Salvation To Children 24 May I order please.... 24 LeBron's buzzer-beater lifts Cavaliers over Magic 2 24 SPORTS COLLECTIONS AND THE GOSPEL 25 Why Pastor Give Their Charge? 26 Reality of Church Ministry Comes to Life 27 LETING DOWN YOUR SLEEVES IS GREAT 28 UNION MILLS BAKERY MAY 29 29 3
  • Saturday, May 30, 2009 31 LET US AS PREACHERS NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN SELF 31 Some Events for Sunday May 31 31 A JUNE GREETING FROM CHARLES E 32 Why Paul Was Glad the Thessalonians 33 The Harley - Davidson Bike Wedding 33 TRAIN CARS IN FRONT OF HOUSE 33 40th President of the United States 34 D - Day, the reason America IS. 34 Does Your Theology Affect Your Evangelism 35 The Bible Is The Word of God 36 Tuesday, June 09, 2009 36 The Ministry of The Word Of God 36 HOW DO YOU RECONCILE FREE WILL AND ELECTION? 37 The Preachers Message Keeps In View? 37 40th Year Married To Charity 38 40th Wedding Anniversary and 1st Year at ROJBC 38 Charles and Charity Singing for the First Time 40 Great Church Family and Family Cebelation 40 SUNDAY JUNE 14TH 2009 GREAT 41 Any Appearance of Evolution is Wrong. 44 Creation is a Fact Supported by Scripture. 44 Angels Were Created Beings by God 45 So How Do I Come To Believe What I Believe 45 A overview of the week forthwith 45 WHAT IS MEANT BY EXPOSITORY PREACHING 47 4
  • The Suffering For Christ's Righteousness Seen 48 FOR ME DEATH WILL BE OKAY 51 Shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? 51 THE REALITY OF PASTOR/TEACHER IS THIS 53 To Magnify The Lord Jesus Christ 55 Do Trips to Argentina South America 55 Study the Word and Preach the Word 56 His Only Begotton Son Message Plus 57 Reflection Over the Last Year at ROJBC 57 Music in a different style 59 Charles E. Whisnant Message pt 1 from July 5, 2009 59 How Huge Is The Universe Sermon 60 This Is Pretty Cool Party 61 Grtand daughter visits her grandfather 61 Alan Harris Family Connersville, Indiana 62 The Drama Of Coming To Minford 62 Chad R. Whisnant one find young man 63 Family as a teen great 64 Why Another Social Network Service? 64 The Complexity and Diversity of God's Order of Creation 65 THE LORD'S GLORY AND MAN'S DIGNITY 66 11 Things You Might Not Know About Apollo 11 66 So Few Have Died So Hard 66 GOD'S WONDERFUL CREATION OF BIRDS AND FISH 68 CAUTION: ALTAR CALLS ARE NOT IN THE BIBLE. 69 Rivers of Joy Baptist Church 70 5
  • Four Options To The Creation of Universe 72 Paul's Take on Earth living or Heaven 72 Paul Talkes about Living life and Heaven 72 John Piper says we should guard the powerful role of preaching in w... 73 The Creation of Day Five Continues 73 IS 'DEPRESSION" A BIBLICAL RESPONSE? 74 The Power of God's Strength and Comfort 77 SATAN IS OUT TO SHAKE YOU UP 78 HAPPINESS IN THE SECULAR SENSE IS NOT VERY LONG 79 SHOULD CHRISTIAS BELIEVERS GET CLINICAL DEPRESSION 81 Time To Relax After Sunday's Services 85 Should Christians Stay In A State of Depression 85 CAN CHRISTIANS BE BIPOLAR? 87 Satan the Devil Sermon and Video 88 People, Science, God and Evolution 89 It's A Devil of a Message 89 IT IS A DEVIL OF A MESSAGE 90 IT IS A DEVIL OF A MESSAGE 90 Johnny Edwards 90 Update: Computer 2009 90 Charles E. Whisnant Teaching On Wednesday Evening 91 Sunday Morning August 16, 2009 91 Remarks About Sunday 92 The Book of Romans Series 93 Charles E. Whisnant, Teaching from Romans 93 6
  • Charles E. Whisnant, Preaching & Teaching 94 Christ Our Hope And Salvation 94 Creation Day Six Outline 95 Ellen and Stephen 95 Charles E. Whisnant 96 So Really What Is Preaching? 96 How Should We Present the Word of God 97 Salvation is Transforming Power of Christ 98 To Go To Heaven You Need To Know 98 Bible Study Handouts Are Good. Why? 99 How Do We Learn The Fear of the Lord 99 7
  • Eric and Leslie's new born and our granddaughter Friday, May 01, 2009 Dressing our granddaughter for the first time from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Amazing Amazing creation of God from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:25AM (-05:00) Very Proud of our Granddaughter Saturday, May 02, 2009 Eric and Leslie baby was born April 30, 2009 around 5 p.m. and she was 7 lbs 11 oz and 19 in long and of course a very perfect little girl. As only a grandfather would say so proudly. The star of the day Aunt Becky and grandmother Mom Chad and Mom and Kyle Bob, Charles, Chad and Kyle Heather, Charity and Brittney Grandfather and our little granddaughter Happy Grandparents Happy Happy Happy Dad Happy Grandmother Charity Happy aunt Becky and Mom Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:01AM (-05:00) 8
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  • A GOOD WEEK Monday, May 04, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:39AM (-05:00) OKAY WE ARE GRANDPARENTS OKAY Wednesday, May 06, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 02:01PM (-05:00) Sharing the Gospel and God's Divine Election Friday, May 08, 2009 EVANGELISM AND GOD'S SOVERIGNTY from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. This message is the second lesson on this subject, and the first part of the second 10
  • lesson. (I am in the process making available the first lesson) TWO VIEWS OF GOD’S WORK IN SALVATION AND MAN’S RESPONSIBILITY CAUTION: HEAR BOTH VIEWS TO MAKE THE CONNECTION. The fact remains that God in the gospel really does offer and promise justification and life to “whosoever will.” Romans 10:13. As God commands all men everywhere to repent, so God invites all men everywhere to come to Christ and find mercy. Definition of Evangelism: 1. Is a task appointed to all God’s people everywhere. It is the task of communicating the message from the God to bring about salvation to mankind. 2. The message begins with information and ends with an invitation. (I am not talking about a church invitation at th end of the service) 3. The information concerns the work of God of making His Son a just right Saviour for sinners. 4. The invitation is God’s summons to mankind generally to come to the Saviour and find life. God commands all men everywhere to repent, and promises forgiveness and salvation to all who do. (Acts 17:30) 5. The Christian is sent into the world as Christ’s speak and Christ’s ambassador, to sent forth this message as far and wide as he can. It’s a duty, it’s a command, it’s a privilege to tell people about Christ. HOW IF THE ABOVE IS TRUE, AND IT IS, HOW IS ALL THIS AFFECTED BY OUR BELIEF IN THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD? Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 01:53PM (-05:00) Sharing the Gospel & God's Divine Election Part Two Saturday, May 09, 2009 HOW TO VIEW GOD'S SOVEREIGNITY WITH EVANGELISM from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. It is true that God has from all eternity chosen whom He will save. It is true that Christ came specifically to save those whom the Father had given Him. But it is also true that Christ offers Himself freely to all men as their Savior, and guarantees to bring to glory everyone who trust in Him as such. Note how He Himself deliberately put side by side these two thoughts: John 6:37-38. Christ means who He says, no less when He undertakes to save all who will trust Him than when He undertakes to save all whom the Father has given Him. 11
  • (4) or does it affect the responsibility of the sinner for his reaction to the gospel. The fact remains that a man who rejects Christ in that way becomes the cause of his own condemnation. The Bible never says that sinners miss heaven because they are not elect, but because they neglect the great salvation and because they will not repent and believe. Ezk 18:31, John 5:40. II THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD IN GRACE GIVES US OUR ONLY HOPE OFSUCCESS IN EVANGELISM. Let me say on the other hand, evangelism would be pointless apart from the Sovereignty of God. Why? Because of the spiritual inabililty of man in sin Paul put it this way: I Corinthians 2:14 and Romans 8:7 • 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor 2:14 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Romans 8:7 Here is what Paul is saying: Man’s failure, as a matter of fact. It is a necessity of nature, something certain and inevitable and universal and unalterable, because it is in man to do otherwise than fail. 1. And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins Eph 2:1 2. Wholly incapacitated for any positive response to God’s word 3. Deaf to God’s speech blind to God’s revelation 4. Not influenced to God’s inducement Why? Eph 2:2 Satan is active in this matter. 2 Corin 4:4 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR REACHING PEOPLE FOR CHRIST? It means quite simply, that evangelism, described as we have described it, cannot possibly succeed. 1. Can we by our talking break the power of Satan in man’s life? Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:02AM (-05:00) 12
  • Wallace York a man to be remembered Monday, May 11, 2009 We learned today that our friend Wallace York passed away in Princeton, KY. He was a giant in the ministry. We first knew Wallace when Charity and were members of the Ashland Ave. Baptist Church in Lexington KY. My emotions are sad at the moment, and will refect later on Bro. Walllace. But he had an affect on our family for many years and we will miss him. Our prayers are with his wife and children. The photo is at Second Baptist Church in Princeton KY in 2001. Thanks to Hershael York for keeping us up with his Dad (I am thankful for Facebook). Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 10:28AM (-05:00) Sideshow: God, Satan, and Miss USA Wednesday, May 13, 2009 Theses two girls didn't win Miss USA, they didn't pose for girlie sideshow, or magazines, but they glorifed the Lord in their life. Christians are not to be in girlie sideshows. The Girlie Sideshow: God, Satan, and Miss USA in Sin City Carrie Prejean, 21, may have lost the Miss USA crown to Kristen Dalton, but God was guiding her throughout that fateful girlie show April 19 in Sin City, when she was put to the question by Perez Hilton over gay marriage. So said Carrie yesterday on James Dobson's Focus on the F a m i l y r a d i o s h o w ( h t t p : / / w w w . f o c u s o n t h e f a m i l y . c o m / ) . I am sure the Devil is not at all disappointed that Miss Carrie is a "Chrisitan", and that she is against gay marriage. If a Christian can pose for girlie magazines, and dress as she does, that is okay christianity to the devil. "I felt as though Satan was trying to tempt me in asking me this question," said Carrie, who spoke out against gay marriage. "And then God was in my head and in my heart, saying, 'Do not compromise this. You need to stand up for me.' And I knew . . . that it wasn't about winning. It was about being true to my convictions." Now of course when the statement of Carrie was said, you can be sure the media is going to use it in the negative. 13
  • Of course they in their natural minds will have no idea what she was talking about. Even on Fox Shepherd Smith was clueless. Miss USA is worldly, and in my opinion is totally sinful. Well, it appeal to the flesh, and eyes for sure. For heaven sake's I remember saying, "I don't think your daughter should be in the cheerleaders half time group." I got in a lot of trouble over that statement. I just do not believe we should be half dressed in public and dance like we are come on. Sex sells. The nature of man like to see women's flesh. Of course to many this practice is harmless. And I am sure we can over come our youthful behaviour. • Satan is not fearful of external conformity to rule. Not even to the external conformity of the rule of Christ--provided there is no cross. • Satan does not mind family values--as long as what you ultimately value is the family. Russell Moore's excellent talk, "The Devil Votes Christian Values: Why We’re Tempted to be Glorified Satanists Rather than Crucified Followers. • Satan does not mind social justice--as long as you see justice as most importantly social. • Satan does not tremble at a Christian worldview. He will let you have a Christian worldview as long as your ultimate goal is viewing the world. If he can just bypass the cross--and get to the kingdom apart from the cross--then he will have everything that he wants. • Pastor: Satan doesn't mind if you preach on the decrees of God with fervor and passion every single week--provided that you do not ever preach the gospel of the cross. • Homeschooling Mom: Satan does not mind if you teach your children all the books of the Bible and all the Ten Commandments and all of the catechism--provided you do not teach them the gospel of a bloody cross.. . . Satan will let you get what it is that you want, no matter what it is--sanctity of marriage, environmental protection, orphan care, all of these good and wonderful things--he will allow you to gain those things provided you do not preach and proclaim and live through the power of a cross that cancels his power of condemnation. He so fears the gospel of a Christ crucified and raised from the dead that he is willing to surrender his entire empire just to appease the threat of it. Here Russell Moore tells us The Devil Votes Christian Values: Why We’re Tempted to be Glorified Satanists Rather than Crucified Followers. The Devil likes or is willing to go along with Christian values as long as we do not bring in the Cross and the Resurrection. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 03:27AM (-05:00) 14
  • MY LOVELY SISTER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS Wednesday, May 13, 2009 MY SISTER ELLEN HAS A BIRTHDAY ON FRIDAY Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:43PM (-05:00) 15
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  • PREACHING AND THE LISTENERS? Thursday, May 14, 2009 • Remember that happy listeners may mean sermon failure. Our goal is not to make listeners happy with us. Our goal is to faithfully present, explain and apply the Bible text to their lives. What if the text convicts, or prods, or pokes, or makes downright uncomfortable? What if it shines a light in a dark place in their life and they don’t like what they see? What if their dissatisfaction toward you and your preaching is a very positive sign of the word getting through? Be careful not to misapply this, but sometimes knowing that listeners were offended by your preaching may be the best feedback that you are doing your job well. Preaching is not about presenting yourself for a popularity contest (even if some churches make it feel like that!) Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:43AM (-05:00) CHARLES E. WHISANANT CAN BE FOUND ON Friday, May 15, 2009 Well there are a few nice videos we have. We upload our Sunday Morning and Sunday Evening Bible Studies. A LIST OF PLACES WHERE YOU CAN FIND POSTS, ARTICLES, PHOTO, VIDEOS FROM CHARLES AND CHARITY WHISNANT http://cwhisna.blogspot.com/ http://sites.google.com/site/charleswhisnant/introduction You need to be a member of Facebook http://www.mychurch.org/riversofjoy 17
  • Our Rivers of Joy Baptist Church Information http://twitter.com/cwhisnant http://ccwhisnant.livejournal.com/954.html http://cwhisna1947.spaces.live.com/ GROW BY LEARNING WEBSITE 11 DIFFERENT PAGES 1. Home 2. My Mission Bio 3. Rivers of Joy Baptist Church (church) 4. Resources 5. Articles 6. Sermons 7. Photos 8. Johnny Edwards 9. Theology 10. Sports 11. Counseling http://growbylearning.com/ Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:38AM (-05:00) NOW WHO DO YOU THINK THIS LOVELY LITTLE GRANDDAUGHTER IS Saturday, May 16, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:17PM (-05:00) 18
  • A DAY WITH CHARITY WAS GREAT Monday, May 18, 2009 I was at the desk today, and Charity said, "are you going to move the tables today?" And without thinking I said, "Yes." What was I thinking? So within minutes I went down stairs and begin to take the kitchen table out and going to replace with the table in the dinning room. Then Charity wanted to take the love seat out of the bedroom and put in the new sitting room, which was the old dinning room, which was the TV room. So the work began. What a morning. Charity said, "I am glad that you listen to the Pastor's message on Sunday." I had to remember what I had taught. Am I responsible to listen to what I preach? Then later we went to Chillicothe for dinner at Red Lobster. Then to J.C. Penny's where I bought two shirts. Then to Sam's to buy contact lens. A great 80 mile round trip and time with Charity and back home in three hours. 19
  • Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:31PM (-05:00) Pastoral Leadership Paul's Method Part One and Two Monday, May 18, 2009 Pastoral Leadership In Three Phases pt 1 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Pastoral Leadership In Three Ways Pt 2 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. THREE ADVERBS AND THREE ADJECTIVES OF SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP I THESSALONIANS 2:11 PASTOR/TEACHER CHARLES E. WHISNANT MAY 17, 2009 PAUL IS TELLING US IN THIS SECTION THAT WE SHOULD MODEL AND TEACH AND CHARGE THOSE WHO ARE UNDER OUR SPIRIUTAL LEADERRSHIP HOW ARE WE ABLE TO LIVE WITH STRENGTH, COURAGE, LITTLE FLINCHING FROM A MEASURABLE RISK AND THE CHALLENGES WE FACE IN LIFE? 1 Be sure of the presence of the Holy Spirit. Practice the presence of the Spirit 2 Understanding that as a Christian you have a just cause to live as Christ 3 You understand the reality of the unfailing sovereignty of God THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP NEED TO BE: You are witnesses, and so is God, how devoutly and uprightly and blamelessly we behaved toward you believers; just as you know how we were exhorting and encouraging and imploring each one of you as a father would his own children, so that you would walk in a manner worthy of the God who calls you into His own kingdom and glory. (2:10–12 1A MODELING (PATTERN) STEP ONE THE LIFE OF A SPIRITUAL FATHER, LEADER (Deut 4:9, prov. 13:24, eph 6:4, col. 3:21, Hebrews 12:9 1B HOLY: 20
  • 1. My life before God. 2. My duty before God was conformed to God’s character. 3. This is the fabric of the believer’s testimony as God sees it, not man. 4. God’s wants 100% of our lives. 5. No one sees your devotional life except God. 2B JUST: RIGHTEOUSLY. 1. This is the man-directive. 2. This is what you see. 3. This has to do with your integrity. 4. The fabric of your character. 5. Established reputation. 6. A good testimony. 7. People know your number. 8. The testimony in the church not in the world. 9. People trust you. 10. People believe what you say. 11. When you get up and give a testimony, people will listen to what you say. 3B UNBLAMEABLY: 1. Behaving ourselves as Christians justly. 2. We are not like the world models. 3. We don’t embarrass Christ in public 4. We’re a new breed. 5. We’re a different crop 6. We have a new nature 7. We’re indwelt by the Holy Spirit 8. We have a Bible 9. Molds our life. Our attitude 10. Our philosophy of life. Our out-look on life 11. Our attitude toward life 12. If our life is UGLY, people will say “they must have an ugly book.” 2A TEACHING (PRECEPTS) is necessary as a spiritual father, leader. THREE PHASES OF THE MINISTER’S PREACHING “just as you know how we were exhorting and encouraging and imploring each one of you as a father would his own children,” 1 THESSALONIANS 2:11 1B EXHORTING: to encourage, to raise somebody's spirits. – • from parakaleo, literally “to call alongside; and is related to the noun parakletos, “one who comes alongside; which is one of the titles for the Holy Spirit. • Exhortation leads one to do a thing willingly; consolation, to do it joyfully. "exhorted," the Greek includes the additional idea of comforting and advocating one's cause: "encouragingly exhorted." 21
  • 2B COMFORTED motivating • Encouraging (paramutheomai), meaning to encourage in the sense of comfort and consolation, is so critical in assisting toward spiritual growth because of the many obstacles and failures Christians can experience. • A friendly persuasion, touching of feeling so leading the heart to Christ and His truth. 3B CHARGE: imploring • Imploring is the Greek participle marturomenoi, which is usually translated “testifying”, or “witnessing”; is related to the word martyr because so many faithful witnesses died for their boldness. We are summoned to witness and warn and admonish to the fact that if they did not follow the course laid out for them, they, as disobedient children would receive from a father, could expect to receive spiritual discipline from the apostle. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:39PM (-05:00) Why All the Best Preachers Are--What a Concept!--Theological Tuesday, May 19, 2009 Why All the Best Preachers Are--What a Concept!--Theological: • "The bones and marrow of the sermon are composed of theology. Yet theological preaching is rare. Listeners fear that too much theology will make the sermon impractical. Many preachers shy away from theological content. Aware of the small window of opportunity given to capture the interest of the audience, preachers are tempted to rush to application. The result is a sermon that begins with the need of the audience, touches lightly on the biblical text, and then moves to concrete implication. In the process, the sermon skips the important step of identifying and stating theological principles upon which the practical application is based. Haddon Robinson has wryly observed: 'More heresy is preached in application than in Bible exegesis.'" From my personal experience, not many preachers preach theological in my circle of preachers. So I have changeded my circle of preachers. While I love all my preachers friends, and they all love the Lord, many of them just like to preach and leave out the theology. All the preachers I know from this camp, would say they believe they are preaching the Word of God. They just like to leave out the theological aspect of it in their preaching. Some started out wanting to preach theological and then got caught up in wanting to get more people saved and have a bigger church, so they cut out the theological teaching, and went with the pop - cultural - easy listening - twenty minute sermon. And they go their bigger church attendance. I am so glad over the last years to get to know many preachers who are totally committed to preaching from a theological concept. • I have often heard people say, "Charles is a teacher, not a preacher." The truth is all preaching is teaching what one believes about what the Bible is teaching. 1. THE KEY IS LEARNING WHAT THE BIBLE IS TEACHING. I am in my 45 years of learning what the Bible is saying. 22
  • And almost every day, I am humbled by what I just learned today. Maybe we should try to preach or teach so it doesn't sound so theological! Charles Spurgeon once observed • that the young preacher is primarily concerned with matters of style while those with more experience tend to focus their attention on content. In effect, the younger preacher asks, "How shall I say it?" while the older preacher thinks, "What shall I say?" The theological preacher must ask both questions. It is by giving careful attention to the theology of the text and the need of the audience that the preacher learns what must be said about it and how to say it. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:43PM (-05:00) EVOLUTION IS STILL IN THE NEWS IN 2009 Wednesday, May 20, 2009 CREATION IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE WAY THIS EARTH BECAME INTO BEING Early Skeleton Sheds Light on Evolution from AOL May 20 2009 ALSO NOTE THIS WEB SITE FOR A biblical POINT OF VIEW Mayor Michael Bloomberg, among the speakers at the news conference, called it an "astonishing breakthrough." The story of the fossil find will be shown on History, which is owned by A&E Television Networks. A book also will be published. Hurum saw nothing wrong with the heavy publicity which preceded the research's publication Tuesday in the scientific journal PLOS (Public Library of Science) One. "That's part of getting science out to the public, to get attention. I don't think that's so wrong," Hurum said. Paleontologists found a rare prehistoric pregnant turtle in a remote area of southern Utah May 9. The fossil is just the second ever found to still have a clutch of eggs inside. Here, a technician prepares to run the 75-million-year-old fossil through a scanner. Because the skeleton is so remarkably complete, scientists believe it will provide a window into primate evolution. The animal was a juvenile female that scientists believe died at about 9 or 10 months. "She tells so many stories. We have just started the research on this fabulous specimen," said Jorn Hurum, of the University of Oslo Natural History Museum, one of the scientists reporting the find. 23
  • The creature is nicknamed Ida after Hurum's 6-year-old daughter. The unveiling, at New York's Museum of Natural History, was promoted by a press release for the cable TV show History, which called it a "revolutionary scientific find that will change everything." # I AM IN A SERIES ON GENESIS AND EVOLUTION ON WEDNESDAY NIGHTS.In the last month at Rivers of Joy Baptist Churchspeaking on Genesis Chapter One and TwoWho Created the Earth Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 04:25AM (-05:00) How To Talk Salvation To Children Thursday, May 21, 2009 How Do You Talk To Your Children About Salvation from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. How Should We Talk To Our Children About Salvation Pt 2 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. The Outline Forthcoming. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:37AM (-05:00) May I order please.... Thursday, May 21, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 04:34PM (-05:00) LeBron's buzzer-beater lifts Cavaliers over Magic 2 Saturday, May 23, 2009 LeBron's buzzer-beater lifts Cavaliers over Magic 24
  • With the Cavaliers' hopes for another trip to the NBA Finals fading fast, LeBron James rose up for an absolutely critical 3-pointer as the final second ticked off the clock Friday night. He took the last shot this time. A twisting, off-balance, miracle shot. A 3-pointer for the last of his 35 points that he released with less than one second on the clock and rattled through the rim to give the Cavs a 96-95 victory in Game 2, evening the series at 1-1. What a game. I get a call from Charity from Union Mills to pick her up, its 10 p.m. Cavaliers had a 23 point lead, only to lose it. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:15AM (-05:00) SPORTS COLLECTIONS AND THE GOSPEL Monday, May 25, 2009 The view of our houseThe yard that I cut is all the green.For six years I push a small mower.But really loved it. SOMETIMES YOU WONDER WHY PEOPLE WHOM HEAR YOU PREACH OR TEACH, SEEM TO JUST BRUSH THE MESSAGE OFF. WELL THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT.................. • Now, when we preach the gospel, unless you have spiritual life, you cannot feed upon it; and if you were to come to the communion table, unless you were truly alive unto God, you might eat the bread, and drink the wine, but with real spiritual food, the body of Christ, and the blood of Christ, you could have nothing to do. We do not give food to people in order to make them live. That would be a useless experiment; but, because they are alive, they take food in order to sustain and nourish the life which is already in them. Always recollect, dear friends, that the best spiritual food in the world is useless to those who are spiritually dead; and one very essential part of the gospel is that truth which our Savior so plainly taught, "Ye must be born 25
  • again." All attempts at feeding the soul are of no use until the new birth has been experienced; even that precious, priceless bread of life cannot be assimilated unless the soul has been quickened by the Spirit of God. WHILE I DO LIKE MY SPORTS COLLECTION, ITS JUST A COLLECTION The Dale Earnhardt Sr. Collection Jeff Gordon collection pre 2000 The corner of my collection room Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 09:38AM (-05:00) Why Pastor Give Their Charge? Wednesday, May 27, 2009 Why Pastor's Give The Charge ? from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. The Outline of this message will be over on MY CHURCH THREE REASONS WHY WE AS SPIRITUAL PASTORS/TEACHERS GIVE OUR CHARGE TO OUR FLOCK I Thessalonians 2:12 Pastor/Teacher Charles E. Whisnant 26 Rivers of Joy Baptist Church – May 24, 2009
  • The Mom wants to provide the need of the moment, and the Dad wants to produce the product at the end. That’s balance. Charity the need, Charles the charge. • Verse 12 "That you would walk creditably of God, who has called<2564> you unto His kingdom and glory." Why Pastor's Give the Charge Pt 2 from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:22AM (-05:00) Reality of Church Ministry Comes to Life Friday, May 29, 2009 The reality of church ministry comes to life. This past Wednesday night in our 6 p.m. membership meeting at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church was just for that purpose. Getting members to view their thinking about their ministry in the church. Generally as Pastor/Leader/Elder, I lay out my opinions and idea and what I think. But what I felt a really neat idea, "What Are You Thinking?" So I started with Jimmy and Lois and move to Stephanie, then Linda, skip Bill and went to Bob then to John and Peggy, (well I skippe Peggy) then to Frankie and Danny, and so forth, then came back to Bill, then to Charity and Dorothy, then to Bill and Mary, etc. Really its good to listen to what members are thinking about the ministry that they are involved in. Its good to hear concerns and ideas and thoughts. Too often I believe members may think they are not heard. 27
  • The meeting was very good and produced some good thoughts. Then 7 p.m. came, and we were just about half way through the process, and before you knew it, the time was 8 p.m. So what about my lesson for tonight? I want have to study as hard the next week. Sometimes its good to listen and not talk. Who said that? Pastors have this fault of sugar coating problems and concerns. They often speak of the good points and hid the problems the church has. This is a fault that hurts the progress of the church. In order to get ahead of what was before we must deal with the past. We have a future if we are honest about the events of the past. Churches that do not deal honestly with themselves and do not stop of correct and adjust, will fall into the same pattern all over again. Therefore in this brief post, I am saying, ROJBC and its leadership and members are making progess in their purpose to make our place a place that will bring honor to the Lord. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:31AM (-05:00) LETING DOWN YOUR SLEEVES IS GREAT Saturday, May 30, 2009 Brief Summary of Sunday's Message from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. The video is from this morning at the church, (I did not have the lights on) THE JOY TO BE ABLE TO LET DOWN YOUR SLEEVES WITHOUT BEING MISUNDERSTOOD. TAKING A LOOK INTO THE EMOTIONS OF PAUL I THESSALONIANS 2:13-14 Pastor/Teacher Charles E. Whisnant PAUL seems very much at home when he is writing to the church at Thessalonica. In his letters to that favored people he unveils his inmost feelings. He is rather apt to do so when he feels himself quite at ease: for Paul is by no means a man shut up within himself, who is never at home to any one. When he is in a drawn-out conflict with an unappreciative people he keeps himself to razor-sharp words and strong arguments; but 28 when he is writing to a loving, attached, affectionate church, he lets them have the
  • explanation of his heart, and he lays exposed before them his secret emotions. I feel as if we were interviewing Paul today as if we were all sitting in a room with him, and Silas, and Timothy, and were hearing their private conversation. We are come to a round-table conference with them, and we are listening to their talk about the ministry which God had committed to them. Even in these two verses we hear of how these holy preachers loved the gospel, told out the gospel, and saw that gospel take hold of their hearers' hearts. When you look back over the places of ministry in the pastorate, as my mind brings up those places of service, it’s with joy that I don’t need to be restrained about my conduct in those places. In each place the experience with friends still fill my soul with joy. The experience with the youth, the children, and adults are so good. I love to tell the stories. To be able to the connections we had with friends in Roanoke, Virginia, Bible Baptist Seminary in Arlington Texas, Wooster, Ohio, Minford, Ohio, West Portsmouth, Ohio, Connersville, Indiana, Mansfield, Ohio, Altoona, Kansas, and perhaps in Lexington, Kentucky. It is with a joyful enthusiasm to be the pastor of a church where one may be able to speak with some transparent, as a pastor, to be able from the beginning to open your heart without fear that you are going to be wounded.. Pastors usually have to be like a man who wears an armor throughout life, who hardly is able to move his plate of steel, unless somebody should wound him in an unguarded place. There is not place better than have a church were you can feel yourself at home as a brother among brethren, and as safe as a father among his sons and daughters since he is not afraid of being misunderstood. To be able to let your sleeves down a while is a joy. Paul was like that here in our text. He was able to feel at home, he was able to freely speak with peace, and with pleasure his thoughts about the folks at Thessalonica. He could from the first day to his last day, just say, “As you know,” and they did know. AND FOR THIS REASON WE ALSO CONSTANTLY THANK GOD THAT WHEN YOU RECEIVED FROM US THE WORD OF GOD'S MESSAGE YOU ACCEPTED IT NOT AS THE WORD OF MEN: This Sunday at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, in Minford Ohio the message from I Thessalonians 2:13 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:04AM (-05:00) UNION MILLS BAKERY MAY 29 Saturday, May 30, 2009 Tammy, & Kindra, & Sonda, & Charity, & Rich, & Debbie, & Mary, & Brenda really worked hard this weekend, well the last few weeks on high school graduations orders. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 10:14AM (-05:00) 29
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  • Saturday, May 30, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:48PM (-05:00) LET US AS PREACHERS NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN SELF Sunday, May 31, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:32AM (-05:00) Some Events for Sunday May 31 Monday, June 01, 2009 Last Survivor of Titanic Dies in England Death Comes on 98th Anniversary of Launch of Famous Ship Great article to read. LONDON (May 31) -- Millvina Dean, who as a baby was wrapped in a sack and lowered into a lifeboat in the frigid North Atlantic, died Sunday, having been the last survivor of 1912 sinking of the RMS Titanic. 31
  • She was 97 years old, and she died where she had lived — in Southampton, England, the city her family had tried to leave behind when it took the ship's ill-fated maiden voyage, bound for America. Dean mother died at 99 years old always reticent about the tragedy, died in 1975 at age 95. Dean just over 2 months old when the Titanic hit an iceberg on the night of April 14, 1912. The ship sank in less than three hours. Dean was one of 706 people — mostly women and children — who survived. Her father was among the 1,517 who died. ---OTHER NEWS OF THE DAY & Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, Minford Ohio May 31, 2009 • Our Bible Study time was good: Children's Class with Charity Whisnant, Youth/Teens with Frankie Dawkins and the Adult class with Charles Whisnant. • We had a full choir for Sunday, 14 members. Bob Temple lead the choir. Today our piano player Johnny Edwards and family was on vacation. Frankie Dawkins had our special song for us. • Pastor's message (myself) was from 1 Thessalonians 2:13. A fifty five minute message and was recorded on video. (I will post later this week.) • Following the service, Bill and Mary, Dorothy, Kindra and Charity and I went to eat. • About 2 p.m. Charity and her sister and dad went to Lexington Kentucky to visit with the kids, and to see our grandchild. • The evening service at ROJBC was good. Bill Bower spoke from Romans 8:28-30. Followed by a felllowship time. A great time. • Retured home around 8:30 p.m. and relax for the evening. • Of course I am up at 2:30 a.m. and this post is around 3:23 a.m. & Abortion Doctor Gunned Down in Church A video also WICHITA, Kan. (May 31) - Dr. George Tiller, one of the nation's few providers of late-term abortions despite decades of protests and attacks, was shot and killed Sunday in a church where he was serving as an usher. The gunman fled, but a 51-year-old suspect was detained some 170 miles away in suburban Kansas City three hours after the shooting, Wichita Deputy Police Chief Tom Stolz said. Charity and I lived in Altoona, Kansas for over 16 years, (1980-1996) and often went to Wichita. So we often heard of Tiller and his office. Wichita was about 100 miles from our house. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 02:20AM (-05:00) A JUNE GREETING FROM CHARLES E Monday, June 01, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 09:55AM (-05:00) 32
  • Why Paul Was Glad the Thessalonians Wednesday, June 03, 2009 THE REASON TO BE GLAD FOR THE CHURCH Pt 1 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. The Reason to be Glad about the Church, Pt 2 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Reason To Be Glad For The Church, Pt 3 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:08AM (-05:00) The Harley - Davidson Bike Wedding Thursday, June 04, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:23AM (-05:00) TRAIN CARS IN FRONT OF HOUSE Friday, June 05, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:45AM (-05:00) 33
  • 40th President of the United States Friday, June 05, 2009 Ronald Reagan died June 5 2004 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 09:13PM (-05:00) D - Day, the reason America IS. Saturday, June 06, 2009 Today is the anniversary of the D-Day landings at Normandy during World War II. I have to wonder how many even care anymore. 34
  • Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 09:04AM (-05:00) Does Your Theology Affect Your Evangelism Saturday, June 06, 2009 EVANGELISM, PASSION FOR THE LOST, AND THE ELECT Some in the Fundamentalist group, (some) believe if you believe God saves people, you will not have the desire to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. How silly is that? Some believe that God's doesn't know who is going to be saved. How silly is that? Some believe God knows who is going to be saved, but He doesn't interfer with what a man does in the matter of his salvation? How silly is that? 35
  • • Some believe if you believe God has an elect group of people who are going to be saved, that leaves out all the other people who would want to be saved? How silly that that? A controversialist once said, “If I thought God had a chosen people, I should not preach>" That is the very reason why I do preach. What would make him inactive is the mainspring of my earnestness. If the Lord had not a people to be saved, I should have little to cheer me in the ministry. • I believe that God will save his own elect, and I also believe that, if I do not preach the gospel, the blood of men will be laid at my door. Our Saviour has bidden us to preach the gospel to every creature; he has not said, “Preach it only to the elect;” and though that might seem to be the most logical thing for us to do, yet, since he has not been pleased to stamp the elect in their foreheads, or to put any distinctive mark upon them, it would be an impossible task for us to perform; whereas, when we preach the gospel to every creature, the gospel makes its own division, and Christ’s sheep hear his voice, and follow him. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 12:06PM (-05:00) The Bible Is The Word of God Tuesday, June 09, 2009 THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD PART ONE from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. Sunday June 7th 2009 I taught from I Thessalonians 2:13, Paul gives us the reason why the people in the church made him glad. Untitled from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 02:58AM (-05:00) Tuesday, June 09, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 09:34AM (-05:00) The Ministry of The Word Of God Thursday, June 11, 2009 God's Roll in the Matter of Creaton and Salvation from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Is God Sovereign in Salvation and Creation from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. 36
  • God Sovereign in Salvation and Creation from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. The first part of Wednesday Evening Bible Study at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church June 10, 2009. You will find this lesson interesting for sure. Is God sovereign over the salvation of mankind? Also in this first 22 minutes I talk about Ephesians 4:11-16. The Ministry of the Pastor in the church. I am working on the second part of the lesson from Wednesday. Later. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:30PM (-05:00) HOW DO YOU RECONCILE FREE WILL AND ELECTION? Friday, June 12, 2009 Creation the Second Day Part one from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. In this second part of the lesson on Wednesday, I didn't get into Creation, but was ask the following question: IF MAN HAS A FREE WILL, AND HE DOES, HOW DO YOU BRING TOGETHER MAN'S FREE WILL AND GOD'S SOVEREIGN IN SALVATION? The first 40 minutes I was talking from my thoughts, and didn't have any notes, because I didn't think I was going to talk on the subject. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 04:18AM (-05:00) The Preachers Message Keeps In View? Saturday, June 13, 2009 “Many preachers are tempted to identify themselves with the congregation in preaching, rather than with God. This may be the most significant reason for their feeling ill at ease in speaking to their congregation in the second person. Such preachers do not want their people to get the impression that the preacher is holier than them — for preachers know they are not . . . If a man, even for the most noble of motives, identifies himself primarily with the congregation in preaching, rather than with God, the best he will be able to do is speak as one sinner to other sinners about God. He will not be able to speak from God to them” (Wagner, Tongues Aflame, p. 74). Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:33AM (-05:00) 37
  • 40th Year Married To Charity Saturday, June 13, 2009 Bob Temple and Lenora Temple (Charity's parents) and Pauline Whisnant (Charles's Mom) Charles, Charity, Debbie (Charity's sister), Don (Charles's brother) Lenora, and Pauline, and Ellen (Charles's Sister) JUNE 14, 1969 Charity Faye Mucha (Temple) and Charles Everette Whisnant Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:57PM (-05:00) 40th Wedding Anniversary and 1st Year at ROJBC Sunday, June 14, 2009 Its true, the first time in our 40 years of marriage, we song together as a special song. I said I would sang on our Wedding Anniversary, not realizing the date was on Sunday. So the people at ROJBC held us to it. They said we did okay. THE JOY WE HAVE HAD AT RIVERS OF JOY BAPTIST CHURCH IN THE LAST YEARJuly 6 was our first Sunday to preach, and then July 28 we were voted as pastor 38
  • • The joy that Charity and I have had since coming to ROJBC is amazing. We have never in our entire ministry been so well loved in our first year. You wonderful people have treated us so kindly here at ROJBC. From the very start, we have just felt the joy of preaching and teaching, and the fellowship with all of you. You have shown calmly your willingness to listen and take in what I have presented. You have been encouraging to both Charity and me. In the face of difficulties, ROJBC is going to be okay, the Lord’s willing. Thank you for allowing us to be your pastor/teacher. 40TH WEDDING ANNIVERARY JUNE 14 2009 and our 1st Year as Pastor/Teacher at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church in Minford Ohio. Those attending in the 10 a.m. 11 a.m. and 1:30 p.m. services. In the 10 and 11 a.m. service • Bill and Linda Aldridge Dorothy Fields Bill and Janet Ramey and two kids Frankie and Danny Dawkins and baby Stephanie Oppy and three kids Ellen Copper and kid Jim and Lois Grant Serena Grant Sam Adams Leona Auther Johnny & Phyllis Edwards • Charles & Charity Whisnant Bill & Mary Bower John & Peggy Hall Bob Temple Pauline Lesmaster Richard Lemaster Kindra Tumbleson Amber Tumbleson and Gavin R.W.Wilson Roby Temple Rob & Ily Temple Eric & Leslie Whisnant & Abby Becky Whisnant Kyle & Brittney Whisnant Chad & Heather Whisnant Charlie and Peggy Newman (49) Afternoon extra 39
  • • Mary Thacker Ray & Sharon McCoy Rick Warner Charlie Bond Tammy Logan Debbie Blevins (56) Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:40PM (-05:00) Charles and Charity Singing for the First Time Sunday, June 14, 2009 Charles and Charity Singing at ROJBC from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:05PM (-05:00) Great Church Family and Family Cebelation Monday, June 15, 2009 While our first Sunday preaching at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church was July 6, 2008 we used this day as our first year Anniversary. Also June 14th was our 40th Wedding Anniversary, Chad Whisnant was enjoying the day. Of course we loved our granddaugher Eric Leslie and Abby Kyle, Charity, Becky, Chad and Charles I posted a series of photos over on http://cwhisna1947.spaces.live.com/ Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:03AM (-05:00) 40
  • SUNDAY JUNE 14TH 2009 GREAT Wednesday, June 17, 2009 The Believers Believed the Saints from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. One of my shortest sermons in history. The singing took the wind out of me, I guess. I believe the message stopped at 23 minutes. But that is okay. I had more to say on the subject but next time I will finish the message. 1A THE RECEPTION THAT THE CHURCH MADE OF THE WORD OF GOD 2A THEY HAD A LOVE FOR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THE SAINTS HOW DOES THE WORD OF GOD (ITS PRINCIPLES) WORK IN US WITH POWER IN THE BELIEVER SAVED US 1 PETER 1:23, James 1:18 BLESSES US Luke 11:28 TEACHES US 2 Tim 3:16 REPROVES US 2 Tim 3:16 CORRECTS US 2 Tim 3:16 41
  • TRAINS US IN RIGHTESOUSNESS PERFECTS US & EQUIPS US Eph. 4:12 GUIDES US Psa. 119:105 COUNSELS US Psa. 119:24 REVIVES US Psa. 119:154 MAKES US FRUITFUL Col 1:6 GROWS US UP 1 Peter 2:2 WARNS US Psa. 19:11 REWARDS US Psa. 19:11 JUDGES US Heb. 4:12 SANCTIFIES US John 17:17 PURGES US John 15:3 FREES US John 8:31-32 ENRICHES US Col. 3:16 STRENGTHENS US Psa. 119:128 MAKES US WISE Psa. 119:97-100 PROSPERS US Psa. 1:3 GIVES US HOPE Psa. 119:147 PAUL WAS GLAD BECAUSE FIRST: THEIR RECEPTION OF THE WORD OF GOD INTO THEIR LIVES 1 THESS 2:13 PAUL WAS GLAD BECAUSE SECONDLY: THEY HONORED THE SAINTS: 1 THESS 2:14 “For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judea are in Christ Jesus: for you also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews.:” followers -- Greek, "imitators." Divine working is most of all seen and felt in affliction. in Judea -- The churches of Judea were naturally the patterns to other churches, as having been the first founded, and that on the very scene of Christ's own ministry. Reference to them is specially appropriate here, as the Thessalonians, with Paul and 42
  • Silas, had experienced from Jews in their city persecutions Act 17:5-9 similar to those which "the churches in Judea" experienced from Jews in that country. in Christ Jesus -- not merely "in God"; for the synagogues of the Jews (one of which the Thessalonians were familiar with, Acts 17:1 were also in God. But the Christian churches alone were not only in God, as the Jews in contrast to the Thessalonian idolaters were, but also in Christ, which the Jews were not. of your own countrymen -- including primarily the Jews settled at Thessalonica, from whom the persecution originated, and also the Gentiles there, instigated by the Jews; thus, "fellow countrymen" (the Greek term, according to Herodian, implies, not the enduring relation of fellow citizenship, but sameness of country for the time being), including naturalized Jews and native Thessalonians, stand in contrast to the pure "Jews" in Judea Matt 10:36. It is an undesigned coincidence, that Paul at this time was suffering persecutions of the Jews at Corinth, whence he writes Acts 18:5,6,12; naturally his letter would the more vividly dwell on Jewish bitterness against Christians. even as they --Heb 10:32-34. There was a likeness in respect to the nation from which both suffered, namely, Jews, and those their own countrymen; in the cause for which, and in the evils which, they suffered, and also in the steadfast manner in which they suffered them. Such sameness of fruits, afflictions, and experimental characteristics of believers, in all places and at all times, is a subsidiary evidence of the truth of the Gospel. —Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary They were "imitators”. “followers”.Vs 14 Ø Paul mentioned other believers in other churches as to what they were doing. You could pattern your life after them. They honored the saints by patterning their lives after them. They copied the Saints. They tried to be like those in those churches. Ø THE MARK OF REGENERATION? o They had a longing in their heart to be like Christ, to be like the preacher who gave them the gospel, a longing to be like other maturing saints. o Of the churches of god which in Judea are in Christ Jesus.” Vs 14 Ø Local assemblies. Acts 20:28, I Corin 1:2, 10:32, 11:22, Gal. 1:13. Ø A general term for church. Eph 1:22-23. A church “in Christ Jesus.” Ø In Judea, Jerusalem, the birth place of the NT church. 7 years before. o Their spiritual address: IN JESUS CHRIST. o Their physical address: IN JUDEA. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:08AM (-05:00) 43
  • Any Appearance of Evolution is Wrong. Thursday, June 18, 2009 I am teaching a series of lessons from Genesis, dealing with Creation verse Evolution. I will post the first part of the message later tonight. Maybe. I have worked on this project all day, off and on. Now I am upload the first part on to Vimeo.com. I stand on this position about Creation: • Now from that foundation that we have laid in our teaching over the last several weeks, we must bring to a close that any appearance of evolution is a contradiction and a rejection of the apparent revelation of Scripture, and I mean any outline...whether it comes from an atheistic evolutionist like Julian Huxley, or whether it comes from a theistic evolutionist like Hugh Ross, any appearance of evolution is a contradiction and rejection of the comprehensible revelation of Scripture which indicates that somewhere around 6000 years ago God created the entire universe as we know it in six 24-hour days. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:28PM (-05:00) Creation is a Fact Supported by Scripture. Thursday, June 18, 2009 What Have Learned About Creation So Far from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. I STAND BY THESE STATEMENTS AS I HAVE STUDIED THE TEXT IN GENESIS 1:1- 13. 1. God created out of nothiung, without any preexisting material, the heaven and the earth. 2. This creation happened in a period of one week of normal days about 6000 years. 3. The entire creation was mature and aged at the instant of its creation. 4. Death did not exist, nor did any corrupt influences, and the creation was good. 5. Death and corruption entered the creations for the first time at the Fall of Adam. 6. Prior to the time Adam and Eve sinned in disobedience of God there was no death. 7. Science is not a principle for interpreting Genesis or any other passage for that matter. 8. There's only one source of the account of origins and that is the Bible, the Word of God. 9. It's hard for people to get a handle on this because science has reigned supreme on the throne of contemporary thinking. 10. Evolution has been a given. In fact it's become an absolute in our society. 11. It is a false theory that the sediments that have been building up along the layers of the Grand Canyon to say the earth is a billion of years old. 12. The occurrence of meteors in sedimentary rock failed to turn up one single case of a meteorite being found anywhere in any geologic column. 44
  • Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:46PM (-05:00) Angels Were Created Beings by God Friday, June 19, 2009 Why Do I Believe Angels Were Created On Day One from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. I always believed that Angels were created by God. What I was not sure of was when? I believed God before the creation of earth, God had created angels. For some reason I believed this could have been thousands of years before He created the earth. Well in this lesson I address this issue. So listen to the video and see what you think about this matter of angels. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 10:55PM (-05:00) So How Do I Come To Believe What I Believe Friday, June 19, 2009 In this short video, the end of the lesson on Wednesday Evening, I address the question, "So How Do I Understand Scripture?" We all have opinions about what we think the Bible is teaching about Creation. I will address this point in another post. But the question was put to me, So what makes you believe what you say about Creation is correct? Which is really a good question and really made me think. My other blog: For Me To Live Is Christ note this issue. http://ccwhisnant.livejournal.com/ Closing Remarks of Day 3 part 3 from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 11:52PM (-05:00) A overview of the week forthwith Saturday, June 20, 2009 The week always begins with Sunday. And this past Sunday was so good for Charity and I. Our 40th wedding anniversary was on the 14th. So we thought Sunday would be a great day to have a celebration. Since we have had 40 years of church ministry together, why not have a celebration at church. Having having our sons and daughter up was so good. We had a great time. The only stress I had was the preaching, and the special song that Charity and I sung. Its on video on one of my websites. Several people who love us, said we did well for the first time 45
  • together. The afternoon service was also good. Bill Bower MC the service, and Bob Temple spoke, and then Johnny Edwards gave us a mini concert of songs. We were happy to see so many guest for the day. While attendance is great to have, (its good to have people come) we had fifty six for the day. On Monday Charity and I had a nice date. That was very nice.One Tuesday thru Saturday, Charity was working at Union Mills. One Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday, I was at Mex Itali for a few hours. I clean off the tables, made the best cream butter anywhere, twice this week, I also have a great time talking to many of my good friends. Ira Fowler is one of my best at work friends who comes in to eat everyday. I really work there to see my good friends. I enjoy working at Mex Itali, and thankful for the time I work. While that is true, I am looking forward to leaving in October, at the latest. I took off Thursday to take a day off just to hang out at house and do a little work. That was really fun. On Wednesday we had a great service at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, I had a lesson on Creation. And in the course of the lesson there were a few questions as to my knowledge of the subject. And the question was ask, "HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU ARE RIGHT?" (Click) So I posted a brief thought on that idea. More to come on that idea later.I video Sunday Morning service, and Wednesday Evening lessons. I download from the Kodak onto Kodak Easyshare softwear, this process takes a while. Then go over to Vimeo.com and they download from Kodak. This process takes for ever it seems. About three hours per 20 minutes of lesson. Thus Sunday Morning which was the shortest message in my history was just one video. Wednesday Night which is normal was 55 minutes and it took three video. I have posted on Grow By Learning this week as well. Also over on Live Journal "For Me To Live Is Christ, website. 46
  • Had several visits with Bob Temple this week. And old, we had a drop in supper at Kindra's home, and with Amber, and Bob. That was fun, Charity just said, let's eat at Kindra's home. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 01:03PM (-05:00) WHAT IS MEANT BY EXPOSITORY PREACHING Monday, June 22, 2009 What Is Expository Purpose Preaching from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. A FOOTNOTE ON THIS IDEA OF PREACHING: Some people here at ROJBC are new to preaching. Some simply stop by to see what’s going on. Some have little or no experience with what we mean by preaching. I think it will help you listen to this message (and others) if I say a word about preaching. What we mean by preaching is expository joy. Preaching As Expository Delight Expository means that preaching aims to exposit, or explain and apply, the meaning of the Bible. Every sermon explains and applies the Bible. The reason for this is that the Bible is God’s word, inspired, infallible, profitable—all sixty-six books of it. The preacher’s job is to minimize his own opinions and deliver the truth of God. Therefore, it is mainly Bible exposition—explanation and application. 47
  • And the preacher’s job is to do that in a way that enables us to see that the points he is making actually come from the Bible. If they come from the Bible and you can’t see that they come from the Bible, your faith will rest on man and not God. The aim of this exposition is to help you eat and digest some biblical truth that will make your spiritual bones more like steel, and double the capacity of your spiritual lungs, and make the eyes of your heart to be amaze with brilliance with God’s greatness, and awaken the capability of your soul to experience the kinds of spiritual enjoyment you didn’t even know existed. Preaching is also delight—expository delight. This means that the preacher does not just explain what’s in the Bible, and the people do not simply understand what he explains, but the preacher and the people rejoice over what is in the Bible as it is being explained and applied. Preaching As Worship Preaching does not come after worship in the order of the service. Preaching is worship. My job is not done if I only see truth and show it to you. The devil could do that—for his own devious reasons. My job is to see the glory of the truth and to savor it and triumph over it as I explain it to you and apply it for you. That’s one of the differences between a lecture and a sermon. Preaching is not the totality of the church. And if all you have is preaching, you don’t have the church. A church is a body of people who minister to each other. Part of what preaching does is equip us for that. God has created the church, so that the church flourishes through preaching. That’s why Paul gave young pastor Timothy one of the most serious, exalted charges in all the Bible in 2 Timothy 4:1-2: “I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word.” If you are used to a twenty-minute, immediately practical, relaxed talk, the understanding of preaching that I just described doesn’t lead there. I won’t preach twenty minutes but twice that long; I do not aim to be immediately practical but eternally helpful; and the condition of my soul is not relaxed but standing vigilantly on the precipice of eternity speaking to people any of whom this week could go over the edge. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 01:06PM (-05:00) The Suffering For Christ's Righteousness Seen Wednesday, June 24, 2009 They Suffered for Christ from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. NOW THE OUTLINE OF TODAY’S MESSAGE 48
  • 1A THEY BELIEVED THE RIGHT THINGS: THEY RECEIVED THE WORD OF GOD AS THE WORD OF GOD AND NOT AS WORDS OF MEN 2A THEY HONORED THE SAINTS BY FOLLOWING THEM 3A THEY PERSEVERED IN SUFFERING AND STOOD AGAINST THE OPPOSITION. They kept their faith in the teaching of paul, and protected themselves from anything that would cause them to lose their faith or cause them to fall out of use for the lord Jesus Christ 14 “For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:” in Judea -- The churches of Judea were naturally the patterns to other churches, as having been the first founded, and that on the very scene of Christ's own ministry. Reference to them is specially appropriate here, as the Thessalonians, with Paul and Silas, had experienced from Jews in their city persecutions (Acts 17:5-9) similar to those which "the churches in Judea" experienced from Jews in that country. in Christ Jesus -- not merely "in God"; for the synagogues of the Jews (one of which the Thessalonians were familiar with, Acts 17:1 were also in God. But the Christian churches alone were not only in God, as the Jews in contrast to the Thessalonian idolaters were, but also in Christ, which the Jews were not. — of your own countrymen -- including primarily the Jews settled at Thessalonica, from whom the persecution originated, and also the Gentiles there, instigated by the Jews; thus, "fellow countrymen" (the Greek term, according to Herodian, implies, not the enduring relation of fellow citizenship, but sameness of country for the time being), including naturalized Jews and native Thessalonians, stand in contrast to the pure "Jews" in Judea (Matthew 10:36). It is an undesigned coincidence, that Paul at this time was suffering persecutions of the Jews at Corinth, whence he writes (Acts 18:5,6,12); naturally his letter would the more vividly dwell on Jewish bitterness against Christians. even as they -- (Hebrews 10:32-36). There was a likeness in respect to the nation from which both suffered, namely, Jews, and those their own countrymen; in the cause for which, and in the evils which, they suffered, and also in the steadfast manner in which they suffered them. Such sameness of fruits, afflictions, and experimental characteristics of believers, in all places and at all times, is a subsidiary evidence of the truth of the Gospel. This church followed the Preachers, they followed the Word and then they followed the church at Jerusalem. They patterned their lives after the Church. I patterned this church after the “Shepherd’s Conference, Grace Community Church, Sun Valley California. The pattern of suffering, and persecution. 49
  • A great persecution arose against the church which was at Jerusalem; Persecution Strikes the ChurchActs 5:16 — 8:3 And they were all scattered throughout Judea and Samaria, except the apostles (Acts 8:1). The time of “favor with all the people” Acts 2:24 is over. Acts traces the Satanic attack on the church in Jerusalem as the Jewish authorities that killed the Lord Jesus turn against His people (3:1-6:7). The irresistible force of the church will not be stopped as the church continues to multiply disciples— We read of the church expanding beyond the city of Jerusalem to Judea and Samaria, just as the Lord Jesus had said in Acts 1:8. The church at Jerusalem set the pattern how to deal with persecution. And the church at Thessalonica followed their pattern. They were experiencing the same kind of suffering from their own countrymen. Acts 17:4-9 SUFFERING IN CHRIST, FOR YOUR STAND FOR CHRIST IN RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE TRUE TEST OF DISCIPLESHIP. Spirituality is an absolute Maturity is a process. Handling suffering. This book was written to suffering Christians. The soul permeated with a devotion of truth will stand the fiery test of life. Our love for the Gospel is tested by what we suffer for it. You go along with the soft pace, along the stream of the world, do as others do…sit down and take your ease…you will not suffer. But you take up the cause of Christ, act for Christ, you will meet with spite as men and the devil can possibly throw at you. Note some verses on Suffering in Righteousness of Christ • Jeremiah 2:11 Matthew 5:10-12 John 15:18-20 Acts 14:21-22 Romans 8:35-39 2 Corinthians 4:8-11 2 Corinthians 12:10 2 Timothy 3:12 1 Peter 4:12-14,16 1 Peter 5:10 50
  • What kind of suffering in the United States, in Ohio, in Scioto County would you say we would encounter in our righteousness for Jesus Christ? I really do not believe in Scioto County, that any pain is inflicted upon those who live a righteous life. Physical or psychological pain or distress often occur in our lives. Yet there are all kinds of trials, difficulty that will occur in the life of everyone. This church was the kind of people to be happy for: 1. They received the Word as God’s. 2. They followed the pattern of the saints in Jerusalem. 3. They stood firm in Christian fortitude in suffering. Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, Minford Ohio. Check out GrowByLearning.com website. Check out cwhisna.blogspot.com Check out ccwhisnant.livejournal.com Check out mychurch.org/riversofjoy.com Check out vimeo.com/user1396238/videos Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:25AM (-05:00) FOR ME DEATH WILL BE OKAY Thursday, June 25, 2009 To Live For Christ, Death is Gain from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. What We Shall Experience in Heaven from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Audience Analysis ? From Philippians 1:21 we speak about the benefits of the saints who die and go to Heaven. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:15AM (-05:00) Shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Friday, June 26, 2009 I just posted yesterday the message I preached Sunday Evening from Philippians 1:21. To Die Is Gain, If I have Lived for Christ Today. These who have died with the world mourning for their lost, died in vain most likely. Actress and model Farrah Fawcett lost her long battle with cancer today dying at the age 51
  • 62, June 25, 2009.Her family, friends, and fans hoped and prayed that she would somehow recover from her life threatening illness but unfortuately that was not the case. She will always be remembered for her sexy role as "Jill Munroe" (pictured left) on the hit 70's TV show "Charlie's Angels," as well as for the movies she starred in like "The Burning Bed" and "The Poor Little Rich Girl."'''== What can I say, Farrah was born February 1947, I will be 62 in October. I liked her hair, I guess. Of course I liked Lee Major's whom she was married to for several years. But as to all of us, we have been given life on earth for a period of time, than we die. What we do with our life on earth will be to the glory of self, and those whom they want to please. Sometimes there are those who get caught up in TV, etc. and are forced it seems to do what is expected of them. There life is not there life but that of what they have made it to become. It seems most of the time, they are not really happy, but are forced it seems to do what they really would not do. Often what we see on TV or the screen is not really what people really are. The media will try to kill about every one that is in public. I really do not know a lot about Farrah. After Charlie Angels' I didn't follow her. Only in the last year when she was sick and death was near did the attention get on Farrah. And the fact that she was dying and a Roman Catholic. Of course now, she will be said to have gone to Heaven... Well, I am not the judge. Do I wish she she is? Yes? But....... This pass week we know of three famous people who have died. They had the world at their hands. They lost their soul in doing what they believed the world would like. "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:34-38) . While I hate to put these two people in the same post, I don't want to post about MJ anyway. But I do believe some things need to be said anyway. . FOOTNOTE ON THE OTHER PERSON WHO DIED JUST JUST HOURS AFTER Farrah, whom I had no desire to know or listen to, but who had a soul and that is lost forever: He wrote. He is dead at the age of 50. He had everything the world offered--but no Jesus. . The liner notes from an album of his, and he quoted the final lines from William Ernest Henley's famous poem, Invictus: I am the master of my fate:I am the captain of my soul.. Those are not the words you want written on your tombstone. --------------------------------------- When tens of millions know your name And honors swarm about your head And fortunes rest on your great 52
  • fame And then you die. Well, you are dead. When you've been great beyond degree And slept with fame and danced with pride And you've become an industry And then you die Well, then, you've died. Your fame and wealth won't buy a place In God's eternal realm of light. No, that's found only by his grace, And you chose self Worm, fire and night. by Jim Swindle . ANOTHER COMMENT MADE IN THE DEATH OF mj • From here we create our own standards of what we think a good person ought to be, but even by our own standards we fail to measure up. Only by deceiving ourselves are we able maintain any level of respectability and righteousness. Often during these pursuits, we find ourselves engaging in all kinds of aberrant behavior simply trying to measure up to our own standards. In it, we are clinging to our own righteousness in order to appease the God we know is there. For many, even in their suppression of the truth, will create a God to their liking and will try to appease him (Rom 1:23), but the God of scripture tells us that all our righteousness is like filthy rags, and he wants nothing to do it them (Isa. 64:6). But, praise God, He then goes on to tell us of the remedy that he has offered in Christ Jesus for all of us have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God (Rom. 3:23) . You see, God the Father sent his son to die upon the cross to bear the punishment for all who will believe in Him (John 3:16) in order to bring us into a right relationship with Him and give us the peace we are seeking. . To paraphrase John Donne, when we hear that someone has died and we wonder for whom the bell tolls, there is a sense in which it will always be tolling for us. It is a constant reminder of our own frailty, telling us to be cognizant of our own end, and to ponder what awaits us afterward, and whether or not we are living life the way it should be lived; to the glory of God (Psalm 39:4). God Bless, Doug Eaton Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:35AM (-05:00) THE REALITY OF PASTOR/TEACHER IS THIS Monday, June 29, 2009 What a good day on Sunday. Most preachers it seems that I have known over the years, and have worked with (and there have been a few, believe me) don't seem to see the reality of the church as it really is. "Let's give the impression that the church is really great, and there are no problems." I would hear a pastor say, "Let's put a spin on the problem and make it seem a bit better than what it really is." Just before the pastor would leave the church, resign, go to another church, quit, for various other reasons, the church body would believe every thing was alright in the father's house. It's amazing how many pastors are out interviewing for another church, without the knowledge of anyone in the church. "Everything is just great, except I am leaving the moment I can get another church." It's amazing how many church elders are looking for pastors of churches, while the preacher is wishing to get another church to pastor. But if you ask the pastor, everything 53
  • is okay in their present church. How many churches have I attended, and was available to pastor the church, but the church pastor search committee was not interested. They were interested in someone who was already pastoring a church that they were not happy in. On several occasions the preacher that came to the church was not going to stay in the church for long. Think of that. A touch of sarcasm there. How many times have I heard from members in a church, "I wish the pastor would just leave." While at the same time, the pastor has no clue that is thought by any member. Why? Because those same members would deny that they said that at all. Some pastors seem to be clueless to the situation in their church, and find themselves in trouble because they are not in touch with their membership. So how do you know if you should stay as pastor of the church you are in? Try to stay honest in your mind as to the reality of what is going on in the church. July 2008 I was asked by Bob Temple to come to speak with him at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church. This was only to help the members out in their time of need. I went with fear and trembling. While I was so excited about preaching and teaching, and so overwhelmed, the reality was, I believed there was no way this was going to work out. After all, I knew I was just about the opposite in style from the former preachers. Well not really all that different, but I had come to approach ministry and preaching a little different. Our doctrine was about the same, and our love for the Word was the same. So Bob said I should preach in the morning and he would preach in the evening. So for three weeks that is what we did. Then on the last Saturday of July the deacon called me to come to the church for a meeting with him. We had a good meeting and we expressed our concerns and beliefs and the situation at the church, (which was not good at all). He asked and I agreed to become pastor of the church, if the members wanted me also. So that Sunday evening, the church voted either to call a pastor or to shut the door, as the deacon said. The membership said yes to me coming as pastor. The doors to the building stayed open. Now fast forward to July 2009 (almost) and I can say that I have really loved the experience of the last year. The joy of preaching and teaching over the last year has filled my soul and heart and mind so much that you can't imagine. The experience that Charity and I have had has just overwhelmed us with great joy, and humility. I am humbled at the love the folks have given us. 54
  • I had just about given up on ever pastoring another church, I was sixty you know. But I was thinking I was a very young minded sixty. So I just settled in and was sad. The church that I had attended for almost four years just didn't seem to find a place for us to really serve. And so we finally gave up and left, sadly I might say. We started attending another church in town, and it was as if they didn't know we were even there either. I was getting this idea that we weren't really liked. But God, in His time, must have felt sorry for us, kidding. When I believed the door was completely closed, He by His grace, opened up a place for us to love people, be loved by the people, and have a chance to preach and teach and pastor again. For the first time in our ministry, we have worked in a church from day one to now, and have enjoyed every Sunday. It's a miracle. Maybe sixty is the age, I don't know, but Charity and I have loved this ministry so much. I hope this is the real reality of what is really true. I hope the people at Rivers of Joy really love us as much as we really love the work and ministry and people at ROJBC. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:03PM (-05:00) To Magnify The Lord Jesus Christ Wednesday, July 01, 2009 To Magnify the Name of Christ from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. To Magnify The Lord in our Living Part Two from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. The outline of this message is on MyChurch Philippians 1:20=21 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 03:52AM (-05:00) Do Trips to Argentina South America Thursday, July 02, 2009 TODAY’S NEWS FOUND IN PROVERBS SIX-EIGHT DO NOT PLAN TRIPS TO Argentina Charles E. Whisnant Rivers of Joy Baptist Church June 28 2009 Sunday Bible Study Lesson TO GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD LOVE AND TO LOST YOUR OWN SOUL My favorite after sermon comment is the young guy who came up to me three times and said 'That's the worst sermon I ever heard.' Eventually, one of the elders realized he was bothering me but hadn't heard the young man; so the elder put his hand on my shoulder 55
  • and said 'don't worry about him. He's a bit simple and has a tendency to repeat what he hears others saying...' Do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her captivate you with her eyes, for the prostitute reduces you to a loaf of bread, and the adulteress preys upon your very life. Can a man scoop fire into his lap without his clothes being burned? Can a man walk on hot coals without his feet being scorched? So is he who sleeps with another man’s wife; no one who touches her will go unpunished. (Proverbs 6:25-29) Or Provers 8:1-6 1. We Christian men need to be diligent with guarding our hearts 2. Ladies, do not underestimate the power of sex in marriage and how important it is to your husband. 3. Realize our sinful actions also impact others. 4. Marvel at how sin can make the most sober-minded, intelligent person to act stupidly. It ought to serve as a sobering reminder of our own depravity. Here are some lessons that I'm pondering today in the wake of this news: 1. We must acknowledge that our biggest problem is not "out there." It is "in here." 2. We must measure ourselves against the right standard. 3. We must guard ourselves in our friendships--and especially in our counselees. 4. We must seek accountability. 5. We must be sobered by how our sin affects others. 6. We must repent of putting our hope in people. 7. We must look away to Christ. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:00AM (-05:00) 56
  • Study the Word and Preach the Word Friday, July 03, 2009 Study the Word from Philippians and First Thessalonians I was at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, yesterday, and last night I was studying for the message on Sunday Morning, from Philippians. Usually I teach from First Thessalonians but this week from Philippians. There is great joy in study of the Word. A cup of coffee, good books, a great Bible, John MacArthur, a good pen and paper, and thinking, and grace from the Lord, goes a long way in preparation of a message. Just love this. The message below is from February 15, 2009 part one. From I Thessalonians What Is The Truth Paul Speaks Of from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:40AM (-05:00) His Only Begotton Son Message Plus Friday, July 03, 2009 This is the last half of a message I taught on John Three Sixteen. The Johnny Edwards song at the end of the message. Johnny does a wonderful job singing for us each week Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 10:34PM (-05:00) Reflection Over the Last Year at ROJBC Sunday, July 05, 2009 Charity and Charles E. Whisnant today July 05 2009, one year later at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, in Minford Ohio I am sitting in my library today Charity gets this photo of me teaching in the Bible Study today Okay who are these men? Bob Temple, Jimmy Grant and Bill Aldridge today. Today we started our second year at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, Minford Ohio. The last year, what a great time. Simply "Wild." And ithas been for a year. How do you measure the last year in terms of "wild?" By amazement. 57
  • • The Lord has allowed us to be in this church for a year. The Lord has allowed us to preach and teach, sometimes four times a week. The Lord has brought to our church some great people. Bill and Mary Bower, who now is our asso. pastor and they are just a blessing. Pauline Lesmaster and her son Richard, Pauline teaching with Frankie the teens, and sings special and is in the choir. Richard takes up the offering and sings in the choir. John and Peggy Hall, Peggy is now my "pastor's secretary." Then Kindra Tumbleson joins us with her daugher Amber and Gavin. And Bob Temple has joined us, he now is our asso. pastor as well, and is our worship leader. • To have four preachers in your church is "wild" plus four. • To see the church support Charity and I for this whole year is "wild." I keep saying that. • To lead the church into Eldership leadership is "wild." • To see a great choir, in which the numbers are bigger than those who sit in the auditorium is really wild. • To see those who started out with us in July 2008, Bill & Linda Aldridge, Jimmy & Lois Grant, Johnny & Phylis Edwards, Dorothy Fields, Bill & Janet Ramey, Leona Arthur, Danny & Frankie Dawkins, Stephanie Oppy, Mandy and Brandon have stayed with us. • We have 99 percent of our folks listed above come in all four services during the week. That is wild. We have some who come when they are able like Rosie, she is a special friend. Others come on special occassion, and we have a few children who come. • Of course we have had several families leave, that is always true in any change of leadership. Some of the old members came back to see what we were about, and they chose to leave. • The transition of leaderhip was very smooth. We have thrown the bricks at the 58
  • membership and they have responded with grace and patience. What can I say, other than, Praise to the Lord. I pray that the Lord will turn us around as a church body and He will give us the increase as He desires. I pray that we can become a place where He is glorified and magnified and worshipped. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:32PM (-05:00) Music in a different style Tuesday, July 07, 2009 Uncle Chuck sent this to me email tonight. This is rally great. Thanks. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:34PM (-05:00) Charles E. Whisnant Message pt 1 from July 5, 2009 Wednesday, July 08, 2009 So I am standing in my library office. Our men are a little funny sometimes. Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, might be the only church in Ohio that has more people in the choir than in the seats. But that is good, in a sense. They were practicing Sunday Evening before the service. They do really have a good time, and Bob Temple has really done great, and Johnny Edwards who plays the piano really does well too. Paul is the Example of what he wrote from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:22AM (-05:00) 59
  • How Huge Is The Universe Sermon Friday, July 10, 2009 WHICH IS BIGGER IN LENGTH, THE UNIVERSE OR THE BRAIN IF LAID OUT STRAIGHT GOD’S CREATION DAY FOUR GENESIS 1:14-19 CHARLES E. WHISNANT RIVERS OF JOY BAPTIST CHURCH: JULY 1, 2009 OUTLINE If God did not create all this vast universe and all that is in it, then we are really just wasting our time on this subject. Evolution has struggled incessantly to explain all the bodies that exist in the universe. When Genesis one says that God made the stars along with the moon and sun, it is saying something about His immense power. Light travels 186 thousand miles a second, or six trillion mills a year. • The speed of light normally refers the speed of light in a vacuum, and is an important physical constant in modern physics. Light travels at different speeds through different materials, but in vacuum light travels fastest, and the speed does not vary with the color, intensity, or direction of travel. • This is roughly a million times faster than sound, and fast enough to circle the Earth more than 7 times in one second. Day Four Light Years, DNA and the Brain. from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Charles E. Whisnant, Wednesday Night as it was recorded on Creation: Day Four. Part one of the message. July 1, 2009 OUTLINE The Milky Way Galaxy is the spiral galaxy we call home, and so do 100 billion other stars. • There are 50 billion galaxies in the known universe. • The end of the Andromeda galaxy which is approximately 2.5 million light-years away, and . contains one trillion (1012) star and close enough to earth to be seen with the naked eye. • Most stars that you see are not actually stars, but are rather multiple star systems revolving around a center mass. • The edge of the known universe is over 20 billion years of travel with about 50galaxies behind it with about a hundred billion stars. • Psalms 8:3 Job 26:14 Genesis explains all this by saying this, ‘HE MADE THE STARS.” Day Four God Created the Stars from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. 60
  • Charles E. Whisnant, Wednesday Night July 1, 2009 Bible Lesson, part two of Day Four Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:20AM (-05:00) This Is Pretty Cool Party Friday, July 10, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:02PM (-05:00) 61
  • Grtand daughter visits her grandfather Saturday, July 11, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:52AM (-05:00) Alan Harris Family Connersville, Indiana Saturday, July 11, 2009 ALAN AND ANGIE HARRIS WILL BE OUR GUEST SUNDAY JULY 12, 2009 11:00 A.M. RIVERS OF JOY BAPTIST CHURCH State Route 139 and Shade Lane Minford Ohio 740 353 0525 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 04:20PM (-05:00) The Drama Of Coming To Minford Sunday, July 12, 2009 The drama of coming to Minford Upon arrival Alan and Angie to our house, they had come from a Wedding and a wanted a photo shot for the Sunday church bulletin. I of course turn this photo in a different slant. Just before leaving to go back to Connersville, Becky took this photo Of course we love the Harris's, for over 28 years. Yesterday and today Charity and I visited with our 28 year friendship with Alan Harris and 25 with Angie Harris. There is always some drama when they come. Well, this date was no different. When we went over to set up for the Sunday Service, we discovered there was a major storm and the electric was out. 62 The show must go on, and they set up for
  • their program on Sunday. Today when I got to church, I discovered that the electric was still out and the program went on. With the door open, a little light was able to get in and the 11 a.m. service was on. Alan is a very good evangelist preacher. He has a heart for people. And today, again as he has done for the last 25 years, gave a great, biblical, and powerful, passioned delivery of the sermon. I tease him that it will take me a month to get our people back on track. Our people love good evangelist preaching. That is why I like Alan. I am a bible teacher by design. I am not an evangelist. Alan is one of the better biblical ones. While they had trouble with the music today, Anthony Harris was able to sing two songs. But come to thank about it, Alan did not sing at all. Our folks was blessed and so were we. Charity as she does so well, had a great dinner at the house. She is one of the very best persons I know who does a great service in cooking and taking care of the needs our our guest, friends and family. Alan and Angie are perhaps one of the best teams in ministry today. They are honest, love the Lord, love their ministry, love their kids, love their friends, and love to reach people with the Word and music. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:25PM (-05:00) Chad R. Whisnant one find young man Sunday, July 12, 2009 TODAY JULY 12, 2009 IS MY SON'S BIRTHDAY THAT IS OUR BOY CHAD Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:41PM (-05:00) 63
  • Family as a teen great Tuesday, July 14, 2009 My sister Ellen came across this photo of our family, that I had not seen, I was there but don't remember. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:22PM (-05:00) 64
  • Why Another Social Network Service? Wednesday, July 15, 2009 So why do I need another social network service? I don't really. But trying to reach different groups of people is the purpose. So what about BEBO? Don't know? But I have signed up and posted some events with photos and also some Blog post. I don't believe you need to sign up. You can. But I believe you can go to this link and just look at my bego. http://bebo.com/cwhisna so we will see if that works. I have posted on bebo two events: Alan Harris family event and Chad Whisnant birthday event. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:44AM (-05:00) The Complexity and Diversity of God's Order of Creation Friday, July 17, 2009 God's Amazing Diversity in Creation 1 of 3 from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. God's Amazing Diversity in Creation 2 of 3 from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. All living organisms characteristically have three properties. 1. They are self-sustaining, that is they have the capability to sustain their own life, like those little tiny, tiny wheels going around inside of you. They are self-sustaining. 2. Secondly, they are self-repairing. That is they fix themselves as they go. 3. And most definitively, they are self-reproducing. A wheel of life machine is self- sustaining or self-perpetuating, self-repairing and self-reproducing. So far we have never by all of our science been able to manufacture anything like that. We can't come up, for example, with a computer that sustains its own life and its own energy, repairs itself and has little computers. You don't have such a machine. The Complexity and Diversity of God's Creation 3 from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. 65
  • I AM GOING TO PUT THE LESSON OUTLINE OVER ON MY CHURCH (click) Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 01:05AM (-05:00) THE LORD'S GLORY AND MAN'S DIGNITY Saturday, July 18, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 09:38AM (-05:00) 11 Things You Might Not Know About Apollo 11 Sunday, July 19, 2009 11 Things You Might Not Know About Apollo 11 On Wednesday Night, our Bible Study is on Creation. God was there Proverbs 8 gives us an insight into the wisdom of God, and Christ. Proverbs 8:22-31. The Eternal Eternity of the Godhead. Apollo Sites Spotted by Lunar Scout Space.com Skip over this content (July 17) - For stubborn folks who still believe the Apollo astronauts never landed on the moon, NASA has new images — definitive proof — that clearly show the Apollo 11 lander that carried the first astronauts to the lunar surface 40 years ago. / The images were taken by NASA's first lunar scout in more than a decade, the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter. They show the Eagle lunar lander at Tranquility Base, where Apollo 11 astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on July 20, 1969. They were snapped between July 11 and 15 of this month and released by NASA on Friday. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 04:48AM (-05:00) So Few Have Died So Hard Monday, July 20, 2009 The sermon was okay, the video stop recording after 22 minutes. Of course there are times when you feel negative about how you are delivering the message. 66
  • How Few There Are Who Die So Hard! from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. There are some who die hard in ministry, in sharing the Word of God to a lost world. This message from Philippians 1. This introduction to the message. While the video stopped at 22 minutes, I might record the last half of the message. Adoniram Judson (1788-1850) was an American Baptist missionary, lexicographer, and Bible translator to Burma. Is the subject of this lesson I gave at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church July 19, 2009. Ann Hasseltine Judson • (1789-1826): Teacher, translator, author and first missionary wife of Adoniram Judson, she was the first American woman missionary to go overseas. Born in Bradford, Massachusetts, Ann became a Christian at sixteen, studied at Bradford Academy, and taught school for several years. Married Adoniram on February 5, 1812, and within a few days they began a four month ocean journey with some other missionaries on the brig "Caravan" bound for Calcutta, India. Ordered to leave India, the Judsons went to Rangoon, Burma, arriving on July 13,1813. Ann learned the Burmese and Siamese languages, did translation work, taught Burmese girls, and managed her household and cared for her husband during his 18 month imprisonment in 1824-25. When home in the United States briefly in 1822 because of ill health, she wrote a history of the Burmese work titled American Baptist Mission to the Burman Empire, which was published in 1823. She died October 24, 1826, at the age of thirty-seven. Both a son, Roger Williams (born 1815) and a daughter, Maria (born 1825) died in infancy (8 months and 27 months respectively). Sarah Hall Boardman Judson. • (1803-1845): Translator, author, hymnist and second missionary wife of Adoniram Judson. Born in Alstead, New Hampshire. Her family knew the Judsons well, and when she was thirteen she wrote a poem on the death of the first child of Ann and Adoniram. Sarah and George Dana Boardman were married in 1825, and went to Burma to work with the Judsons. Later they settled at Tavoy to work with a mountain tribe (Karens), where she founded a school for girls. Her husband died in 1831, and she continued the work with her small son, George. Sarah married 67
  • Adoniram in 1834, nearly eight years after the death of Ann Judson. During eleven years of marriage, they had eight(?) children: Abby Ann (born 1835), Adoniram Brown (born 1837), Elnathan (born 1838), Henry (born 1838; died age 1 yr., 7 months), Luther (stillborn, 1841?), Henry Hall (born 1842), Charles (born 1843), Edward (born 1844). She translated hymns and other materials into the Burmese language. She died September 1, 1845, exhausted and ill, on a ship sailing back to the United States. Emily Chubbuck Judson (1817-1854): • Author and third missionary wife of Adoniram Judson. Born in Eaton, New York. She was a professional writer under the pen name of Fanny Forester. Judson had read some of her writings and contacted her to write the biography of his second wife, Sarah. After working together on the biography, their acquaintance lead to their being married in 1846, about a year after his return to the United States following the death of Sarah. They returned to Burma, where Emily finished the biography of Sarah, which was published in 1848. They had two children, a daughter Emily, born in 1847, and a son Charles, born (and died) the same day in 1850, three weeks after the death of Judson. She returned to the United States in 1851 and died of tuberculois in New York in 1854. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:17PM (-05:00) GOD'S WONDERFUL CREATION OF BIRDS AND FISH Wednesday, July 22, 2009 CREATION DAY FIVEThe series on Creation and Origns. WEDNESDAY NIGHT BIBLE STUDYRIVERS OF JOY BAPTIST CHURCHMINFORD OHIOJULY 22, 2009GENESIS 1:20-2120 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moved, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.-Why did bring up great whales or literally sea monsters? Genesis 1: 21 And God created great whales, sea monsters. Hebrew word is tannin Video of the sermon forth coming. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:50AM (-05:00) 68
  • CAUTION: ALTAR CALLS ARE NOT IN THE BIBLE. Thursday, July 23, 2009 REASONS NOT TO GIVE AN ALTAR CALL One might ask as I am often ask when I mention that I don't give an altar call. "But what about Romans 10:9, 10?" There we read, "…that if you confess with your month the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." For some reason some believe if one is going to be saved, that person needs to go forward in a church service. And they use Romans 10 to address this issue. So does God require a person to be saved in church, at an "altar call," in order to be saved? Simple answer: NO. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." The "saved" Paul speaks of here is not salvation from damnation, but salvation from the damages of sin in present-day living. How does one escape these damaging consequences? 69
  • Paul's answer is, "For with the heart one believes unto righteousness." The words "believes unto righteousness" are a translation of the Greek word for "justified" – the same word used in Romans 5:1. There we read, "Therefore having been justified by faith, we have peacewith God." Paul continues in Romans 9:10, "And with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." So what does "confession is made", that is the point here. Do we need to made a confession in an altar call to be saved? The point could be made.. One becomes a Christian by trusting Christ call in his heart. But to experience victory over sin, one must be willing to confess Him publicly. Which doesn't mean at an altar call, but to confess Christ before friends, and family. Confession is important not for justification, because salvation is by Christ alone, but instead for living the Christian life. Need help making such a confession? Paul exhorts them to "Call upon the name of the Lord" (Romans 10:13), a phrase that has the idea of worshipping God and invoking His assistance (cf. Acts 9:13-14, 1 Timothy 2:22). These statement do not refer to getting saved. But calling upon the Lord after one has already received the gift of salvation from our Lord. It is therefore not surprising that Paul continues in Romans 10:14-15 by saying, "How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: ‘How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, who bring glad tidings of good things!'" Note the clear distinction made between a public profession of Christ and believing in His name. In Scripture, a public confession of Christ is never made a requirement of salvation. To continue.... Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:06AM (-05:00) Rivers of Joy Baptist Church Friday, July 24, 2009 Pastor/Teacher The Choir at Rivers of JoyBaptist Church Now isn't this a fine couple 70 Bible Study is our objective. Teaching the Bible is our objective in all our services.
  • BILL AND LINDA ALDRIDGE, ELDER BOB TEMPLE, CHURCH'S WORSHIP LEADER AND CHOIR LEADER BILL BOWER OUR ASSO. PASTOR Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:33PM (-05:00) 71
  • Four Options To The Creation of Universe Saturday, July 25, 2009 Only Four Options for the Origin of the Universe. from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. Now Sproul says there are only four options for the origin of the universe. You only have four. 1. Option number one, the universe is an illusion, it doesn't exist. That's option number one. 2. Option number two, it is self-created. 3. Option number three, it is self-existent and eternal. 4. Option number four, it was created by someone who is self-existent. Sproul says there aren't any other options. 1. Either it doesn't exist 2. or it created itself, 3. or it always existed, 4. or somebody created it. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:37AM (-05:00) Paul's Take on Earth living or Heaven Monday, July 27, 2009 Paul's Desires And God's Choice from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:18PM (-05:00) 72
  • Paul Talkes about Living life and Heaven Tuesday, July 28, 2009 To Stay On Earth to Serve or to go to Heaven from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 04:36PM (-05:00) John Piper says we should guard the powerful role of preaching in w... Tuesday, July 28, 2009 What are your thoughts on drama and movie clips in church services? Should churches use movie clips and drama to get people in to the church, and make preaching better? Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 04:59PM (-05:00) The Creation of Day Five Continues Friday, July 31, 2009 Creation Day Five The Birds from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. July 29 2009, Charles E. Whisnant, continues the lesson on Creation from day five. Part one of the lesson. 1. When God created the fish and all those mammals and all those animals, whether you're talking about fish or whether you're talking about whales, or whether you're talking about sea-going dinosaurs, or whether you're talking about eels, or whether you're talking about plankton or whatever anywhere in the food chain. 2. When God created all of that there was no evolutionary process, He literally in a moment spoke into existence all the creatures that swim...just instantaneously at the same moment on the same day they call came into existence. 3. They were not somehow in a process of development as species evolved into other species and mutated into other species. 4. They were all instantaneously created in massive abundances moving through the seas. The Large Sea Monster continue from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Part two from the lesson by Charles e. Whisnant July 29, 2009 at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church. 2 of three. • Isaiah 27:1 you have mentions of these sea gods who were so much a part of Canaanitish culture, when the children of Israel went into the land of Canaan, they came across this Canaanite poetry, Canaanite legends about the gods taking on the 73
  • form of these great sea monsters. • So the sea monster then became a picture of the principle of evil, the anti-God evil was sort of personified in the great sea monster, the great dragon of the sea, the great dinosaurs of the sea. A number of verses, as I said then, refer to leviathan, the great sea monster...always seemingly depicted as the great enemies of the true God, implying that they were somehow a super-natural deity or supernatural force that rose up against their creator. That was all in the ancient epics. The Sea Monster and Reproduction of Life from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Part three of lesson from Genesis 1:24 Creation Day 5 Charles E. Whisnant, July 29, 2009 If you study the Old Testament you find several Old Testament references to sea creatures. There's Leviathan, remember reading about Leviathan? Leviathan is this massive, massive, powerful sea creature. Job 41:1 God, you know, says to Job, "Where were you?" you know, can you...He says, "Where were you when I created everything?" And then He comes to chapter 41 and He says, "Can you put your hooks in and control leviathan?" And then he goes on to describe this massive beast, fierce...you can read Job 41:1 yourself and read the characteristics of this beast. I wrote a little note on it. Some have suggested it might be an alligator or a crocodile, but they're not in the sea as such. The best guess is that He's describing some kind of dinosaur, some kind of massive sea- going monster, leviathan. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:40AM (-05:00) IS 'DEPRESSION" A BIBLICAL RESPONSE? Friday, July 31, 2009 I must say, if you allow events in your life get to you, you could be in trouble with your emotions. You could get into the secular mode that is called depression. But since I don't believe in depression for more than ten minutes as a biblical response to events in our lives, I try to respond in a manner that will allow me to react better than what my emotions are telling me. MY PERSONAL TRAINING IN COUSELING: Since I have my counseling training in several schools of thinking. One in the Liberity University of Life Long where I worked on my master's in counseling. Second, Institute For Nouthetic Studies training for a number of years, while in Kansas as Pastor/Teacher for 17 years. Thirdly, the Master's College where the training emphasizes the proper interpretation and specific application of Scripture in ministering to people. And, a number of other, Charity loves Dr. Bill and Anabel Gillham counseling. And I have a number of other resources on the subject of counseling both in the secular and in the Christian 74 community.
  • "It is true that NANC (which stands for the National Association of Nouthetic Counselors) once had their office at Faith Baptist Church, Ind, , it is also true that Bill Goode (former Senior Pastor at Faith Baptist Church – now with the Lord) served as a president of NANC. However, FBCM and NANC have always been separate organizations. Technically speaking, NANC is a certifying organization that does counseling training where FBCM is a counseling and counseling training center which is part of the overall ministry of Faith Baptist Church. "I have taken these courses a number of years as well while in Kansas. MY TOPIC HERE IN THIS POST IS DEPRESSION: • Depression is the buzzword for our time and culture. Every other commercial seems to be an advertisement either from a mental health institution or a drug company offering a sure cure for people who find themselves depressed. If you have ever been depressed, you know that it is a terrible state in which to exist. It is as if you are carrying around a 300-pound pack on your back, being forced to walk uphill, while having a terrible case of the flu. So those who are depressed will pursue any possibility for a cure. But before a cure for depression can be found, we must be sure we have a proper understanding of this terrible condition. Depression is the name we have given to the spot where a person has had a “crash landing” after reacting sinfully to one or more difficult or undesirable situations that God has brought into his life. Jay Adams explains depression this way: • Almost anything can be at the root of the counselee’s depression: a recent illness in which he gets behind in his work, hormonal changes, a reversal of his fortunes, the consequences of simple negligence, guilt over a particular sin, self-pity arising from jealousy or a disadvantageous turn of events, bad feeling resulting from resentment, worry, etc. The important fact to remember is that depression does not result directly from any one of these factors, but rather comes from a cyclical process in which the initial problem is mishandled in such a way that it is enlarged in downward helixical spirals that eventually plunge one into despair. • The downward cycle of sin moves from a problem to a faulty, sinful response, thereby causing an additional complicating problem which is met by an additional sinful response, etc. What is depression? According to the DSM-IV, a manual used to diagnose mental disorders, depression occurs when you have at least five of the following nine symptoms at the same time: 1. a depressed mood during most of the day, particularly in the morning 2. fatigue or loss of energy almost every day 3. feelings of worthlessness or guilt almost every day 4. impaired concentration, indecisiveness 5. insomnia or hypersomnia (excessive sleeping) almost every day 6. markedly diminished interest or pleasure in almost all activities nearly every day 7. recurring thoughts of death or suicide (not just fearing death) 8. a sense of restlessness -- known as psychomotor agitation -- or being slowed down -- retardation 9. significant weight loss or gain (a change of more than 5% of body weight in a month) Depression Types (for the secular point of view) 75
  • • All depression types are not the same. Major depression, also known as clinical depression, and chronic depression, also known as dysthymia, are the most common types. But there are also other types of depression with unique signs, symptoms, and treatment. What is major depressive disorder? • According to the National Institute of Mental Health, major depressive disorder is characterized by a combination of symptoms that interfere with a person's ability to work, sleep, study, eat, and enjoy once-pleasurable activities. • There are times you may feel sad, lonely, or hopeless for a few days. But major depression -- clinical depression -- is disabling. It can prevent you from functioning normally. An episode of clinical depression may occur only once in a person's lifetime. More often, though, it recurs throughout a person's life. • In addition, with major depression, one of the symptoms must be either depressed mood or loss of interest. The symptoms should be present daily or for most of the day or nearly daily for at least two weeks. Also, the depressive symptoms must cause clinically significant distress or impairment in functioning. The symptoms cannot be due to the direct effects of a substance -- drug abuse, medications -- or a medical condition, such as hypothyroidism, nor occur within two months of the loss of a loved one. And what happens, how the culture and the medical field define depression, we as Christians pick up the same definitions, and symptoms. And as a Christian believer we all could say we have some form of depressive symptoms daily. Of course most people know the symptoms: • Most of us know about the emotional symptoms of depression. But you may not know that depression can cause physical symptoms, too. • In fact, many people with depression feel pain or other physical symptoms. These include: 1. Headaches. These are fairly common in people with depression. If you already had migraine headaches, they may become worse if you're depressed. 2. Back pain. If you already suffer with back pain, it may get worse if you become depressed. 3. Muscle aches and joint pain. Depression can make any kind of chronic pain worse. 4. Chest pain. Obviously, it's very important to get chest pain checked out by an expert right away. 5. It can be a sign of serious heart problems. But chest pain is also associated with depression. 6. Digestive problems. You might feel queasy or nauseous. You might have diarrhea or become chronically constipated. 7. Exhaustion and fatigue. No matter how much you sleep, you may still feel tired or worn out. 8. Getting out of the bed in the morning may seem very hard, even impossible. 9. Sleeping problems. Many people with depression can't sleep well anymore. They wake up too early or can't fall asleep when they go to bed. Others sleep much more than normal. 10. Change in appetite or weight. Some people with depression lose their appetite and lose weight. Others find they crave certain foods -- like carbohydrates -- and weigh more. 11. Dizziness or lightheadedness. I guess all of us have had some of these physical symptoms at one time or another. 76
  • So it seems we all at times want to get depressed when we have these physical symptoms. Well maybe we don't want to get depressed, but we do. DEFINE DEPRESSION: Biblically. While I do not see the term depression in Scripture, there are other terms that might describe the word. 1. Overcome by fear 2. Anxiety 3. Worry SO IT'S TRUE WE ALL AT TIMES STRUGGLE WITH THESE SYMPTOMS. And if I read the scripture correctly, it is SIN to be overcome with fear, worry and anxiety. So the issue is how do we control our emotions, our fears, our worry, or anxiety? • Life is hard and full of drama and we respond in various and troubling ways. People have problems and tend to react problematically, struggling with big and small issues alike: everything from annoying habits that are hard to kick to full blown addictive behavior, from little conflicts in relationships to complete communication break down, from anxious thoughts and mild anxiety to severe panic attacks and the deepest, darkest depression. Human beings often live lives of quiet desperation, wearing masks, fearing what others think, feeling like hypocrites, longing to be different, but having no real hope for authentic and lasting change. • I will address in another post. Which will deal with: • Biblical counseling is built on the simple truth that God has spoken to us in his Word, and revealed everything we need to know about him, ourselves, and how to live in his world. The Lord, who made us, sees, evaluates and speaks to every aspect of human life and understands the deepest complexities and struggles of the human heart. Scripture speaks to the heart, where we trust and love either the true God or some other God-replacement in our lives such as pleasure, control, peace or prosperity. The Bible is not an encyclopedia or a how-to book of techniques for change, but rather a grand story of redemption that ultimately points to a relationship with the person of Jesus Christ. It is in relationship with this Jesus –through his life, death, resurrection and rule that people become different and experience true and lasting change in the midst of their various human struggles. We will review some Biblical ways of handling these emotions and struggles Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:31PM (-05:00) The Power of God's Strength and Comfort Monday, August 03, 2009 Well we are not a monkey, but we do get angry sometimes. When we do get angry, when we do get over loaded in our emotions, when we are pulled down in our spirit by our physical weakedness, when we get upset by our actions, when we have family problems Then we can rememberThere is no boundary away from the power of God's strength and comfort 77
  • • A workman was employed on a building project. One of those high-rise deals. It was necessary because of some deadlines and bad weather for them to work at night. While busy on the edge of the wall, he slipped, lost his balance, fell over the edge, grabbed the edge of the wall with both hands and hung on desperately. He began to scream and cry and call for someone to rescue him. It was pitch black, riveting machines were going, metal hammers were beating and pounding, mechanical motors were running and nobody could hear a word. Gradually his arms grew numb as he hung suspended over the street below and his fingers began to slip and against every effort of his own will to hold on, at last he lost his hold and he fell...about three inches to a scaffold that had been there all the time. The darkness prevented him from seeing it. And all through his anxiety he was completely safe. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:49AM (-05:00) SATAN IS OUT TO SHAKE YOU UP Tuesday, August 04, 2009 Christians who are Holy Spirit-filled will be able to work through times of emotional drama in their lives. (Notes from August 2 2009 message) Paul's Cure for a Dysfunctional Church Vs. 18 “We want to come to you.” 18 Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us. 1 Thess 2:18) It’s the Elders’ desire to bring people in the church to a fuller spiritual life. We desire to see our people grow in their spiritual life. Paul wanted to evaluate spiritual needs. If they were growing, teach them more. Lead them, mother them, father them. I believe there is in these passages in I Thessalonians, Paul’s cure for a dysfunctional church. And why there are so many Dysfunctional - Definition: (A cultural term, not a biblical term) 1. relating badly: characterized by an inability to function emotionally or as a social unita dysfunctional familydysfunctional behavior 2. not performing as expected: failing to perform an expected functiona dysfunctional bureaucracy Satan hindered us -- On a different occasion "the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Jesus" 78
  • (so the oldest manuscripts read), Ac 16:6, 7 forbad or hindered them in a missionary design; here it is Satan, acting perhaps by wicked men, some of whom had already driven him out of Thessalonica (Acts 17:13-14) compare John 13:27, or else by some more direct "messenger of Satan -- a thorn in the flesh" (2 Corin 12:7, 2 Corin 11:14). In any event, the Holy Ghost and the providence of God overruled Satan's opposition to further His own purpose. We cannot, in each case, define whence hindrances in good undertakings arise; Paul in this case, by inspiration, was enabled to say; the hindrance was from Satan. GROTIUS thinks Satan's mode of hindering Paul's journey to Thessalonica was by instigating the Stoic and Epicurean philosophers to cavil, which entailed on Paul the necessity of replying, and so detained him; but he seems to have left Athens leisurely (Ac 17:33, 34, Acts 18:1). The Greek for "hindered" is literally, "to cut a trench between one's self and an advancing foe, to prevent his progress"; so Satan opposing the progress of the missionaries.—Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary Satan will try just about anything to hinder the church family from accomplishing its biblical purpose. Footnote: • I have a new Kodek and the video recording for Sunday's Message was only for 30 minutes which was about 10 minutes less than my message. And the GB was higher than the old Kodek. I can only upload 1GB at a time. The old Kodek would give me 22 minutes per 1 GB the new one would give 1GM for about 11 minutes. • I will post Sundays video message later today. The message is in three parts due to the explaination above. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 03:30AM (-05:00) HAPPINESS IN THE SECULAR SENSE IS NOT VERY LONG Tuesday, August 04, 2009 In reading the book "Happiness Is A Choice" Barry Kaufman 7 steps to overcome depression.(Its a start)(I received this from a friend earlier today) 1. Commit your life daily to the purpose of glorifying Jesus Christ. 2. Spend some time each day meditating on God's Word and applying it to your life. 3. Get rid of grudges daily. 4. Spend a little time nearly every day getting more intimate with your mate and children. Parents, brothers, sisters, and other close relatives should also have a high priority. Do all you can to resolve family conflicts. 5. Spend some time each week having fellowship and fun with at least one or two committed Christian friends of the same sex. If you are married, have fun with other married couples. In this way husband and wife can together benefit from intimacy with others. 6. Be involved in a daily routine (including work, play, housework, projects) that brings personal satisfaction to you. Be convinced that this routine is God's will and purpose for your life-your way of glorifying Him. 7. Do something nice for on special person each week. This kind deed can be physical(helping with a chore, for example), emotional (buying a book or giving counsel) or spiritual( having devotions together. 79
  • For anyone who personally knows Jesus Christ as his Savior, and lives by these biblical principles happiness is a choice. Then I read on a blogger this from a mom. 1. I don’t like the intimations of happiness being a choice. Call me jaded if you want but I just don’t like the idea of someone telling a depressed mom that she made the “choice” to be depressed. Yeah, right. I CHOSE to have horrific thoughts about harming my children. I CHOSE to slide so far down my pole that I landed in a psych ward. Yeap, that’s me. Choosing to be horrifically clinically depressed with OCD thrown in just for kicks. Why? Cuz I like it there. I like it in the dark, all alone, milling over thoughts of how to hurt my kids, thinking that everyone is out to get me. C’MON. And that does make sense doesn't it. Many do find themselves in a state of unhappiness, and before they know it, they have many of the symptoms of "DEPPRESSION." I fully undertstand that, don't you. There are few who want to get into a state where they are "crushed under the load that sometimes life in general throws at them. I don't know anyone who doesn't have situtations in their lives that if allowed would totally crush them into a state of worry, fear, and anxiety. While it is true we do personally get our selves in to situtations that will result in a lot of unhappen results. But most of the stuff in our lives come via someone other means. While we create a lot of things in our lives that will cause of grief, worry, anxiety, there are a lot of events in our lives that are not of our causing and will result in the same problems. Life isn’t about what it hands you. It’s about how you handle life. Looking at life through that lens would make it seem that happiness is a choice and to a certain extent it is a choice. But sometimes life throws a curveball you just can’t avoid. So what are you to do? You have two choices. You can either let it knock you flat on your butt and stay there for awhile…..Or you can pick yourself up, dust off the dirt and mend the wounds, and go on your way. But the longer you stay on your butt, the harder you are going to find the strength to get up. So the scripture tells us to "examine ourselves daily to see where we are in living life." (2 Cor 7:1) We are to be like David in Psa. 51 we are to ask the Lord to "cleanse our heart daily." Psa 51:10. Psa 51:12 "Restore to me the joy of your salvation.""And sustain me with a willing spirit." I am happy once are twice a day. If Tiger Woods win I am happy. I am happy if I get to talk to my children. I am unhappy if I hear what my children are telling me about there life. I am happy if Charity is happy. If I have $100 in the checking account I am happy. I really don't focus so much on happiness. But there are ways to stay happy longer. I read this earlier today: • Every day, it seems, we're flooded with pop-psych advice about happiness. The relentless message is that there's something we're supposed to do to be happy -- 80
  • make the right choices, or have the right set of beliefs about ourselves. Our Founding Fathers even wrote the pursuit of happiness into the Declaration of Independence. • Coupled with this is the notion that happiness is a permanent condition. If we're not joyful all the time, we conclude there's a problem.Yet what most people experience is not a permanent state of happiness. It is something more ordinary, a mixture of what essayist Hugh Prather once called "unsolved problems, ambiguous victories and vague defeats -- with few moments of clear peace." J. Scott McKay So I have learned happeness is a state of mind, and I am going to be happen sometimes, I am not going to to happen very long at a time. Happy could be described as the following ways 1. feeling or showing pleasure, contentment, or joy 2. causing or characterized by pleasure, contentment, or joy 3. feeling satisfied that something is right or has been done right 4. resulting unexpectedly in something pleasant or welcome 5. slightly drunk 6. used in formulae to express a hope that somebody will enjoy a special day or holiday 7. inclined to use a particular thing too readily or be too enthusiastic about a particular thing Some one will say, "How are you doing?" I will say, "good." They might say, "Just good, not great." What do they mean by that? You can't force a person to be good, or great, or to be in high spirits. If I am drunk, I could be really great in my mind, high in spirit. But it doesn't mean I am happy. (Of course I have never had a drink of Cool Light either.) No wonder I am never very happy. So where we are, not happy about this post. Or can we be pleased with what we have said, because someone might be happy to read it? Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 04:43PM (-05:00) SHOULD CHRISTIAS BELIEVERS GET CLINICAL DEPRESSION Wednesday, August 05, 2009 SHOULD CHRISTIAN BELIEVERS GET CLINICAL DEPRESSION Christians Struggle With Life. How Should Christians Deal with Life’s Events? How to respond to emotions of Fear, Worry and Anxiety Sunday Evening I spoke from Philippians 1 again (as a matter of fact I have taught in this book now since I have pastored Rivers of Joy Baptist Church.) THE INTEGRITY OF WEARING THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST PERSONALLY An exhortation to steadfastness, unity, fearlessness. 81
  • • 27 Only let your conversation be as it becomes the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel; 28 And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God. 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake; 30 Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me. Phil 1:27-30. Now that does not sound like we as Christians should get into the condition that is called clinical depression. IF YOU GO TWO WEEKS WITHOUT PRAYER, BIBLE STUDY, AND BIBLICAL TEACHING, WISDOM, AND WORSHIP, AND YOU ARE HIT BY DAILY EVENTS IN OUR LIVES, YOU COULD GET YOURSELVE TO THE POINT OF BEING OVER COME WITH FEAR, WORRY AND ANXIETY. We hear the term so much "depression" most of us will use the term to describe us when we have the “symptoms” quote of depression. According to the DSM-IV, major depressive disorder (or "depression") is diagnosed when five or more of the following symptoms of depression are present for most of the day, nearly every day for at least 2 weeks. At least one of the symptoms must be either persistent sad or "empty" feelings or loss of interest in activities. • Constant sadness • Irritability • Hopelessness • Trouble sleeping • Low energy or fatigue • Feeling worthless or guilty for no reason • Significant weight change • Difficulty concentrating • Loss of interest in favorite activities As I am doing research on this subject, I note there are a number of definitions of terms we use to describe ourselves. Sadness, empty feelings, loss of interest, feelings of lack of fulfillment, downturn in mood or frame of mind, a feeling or display of gloom or anger or irritability over something perhaps trivial. 82
  • So would you say any of the above or below symptoms are to characterize a Christian? And I WOULD say all people could describe themselves in these terms at times Our “emotional state of mind,” our “mood today is”, our “feeling today could be described as”, So I am taking a look at terms that are used in our description of ourselves. The process of giving an account or explanation of events in our lives. Depression (mood), a common term for a sad or low mood or emotional state, or the loss of pleasure. An emotion is a "complex reaction pattern, involving experiential, behavioral, and physiological elements, by which the individual attempts to deal with a personally significant matter or event." It arises without conscious effort and is either positive or negative in its valence. Other closely related terms are: • affect, a synonym for emotion • affect display, external display of emotion • disposition, referring to a durable differentiating characteristic of a person, a tendency to react to situations with a certain emotion • feeling, which usually refers to the subjective, phenomenological aspect of emotion • mood, which refers to an emotional state of duration intermediate between an emotion and a disposition • http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/emotional+state Of course we all know people who have such emotions, moods, sorrow, fear, worry and anxiety. I OFTEN GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF MY PAST EXPERIENCES. Charity and I often hear accounts of people’s experiences in life. This process of giving an account of our experiences sometimes are pleasant, sometimes they are heart wrenching, your emotions are forcibly moved to one level to another level of feelings, some good and some bad. So to get an idea of what we are dealing in terms we use, I am trying to understand what is meant by the terms we use. “Emotion is generally regarded by Western civilization as the antithesis of reason. This distinction stems from Western philosophy specifically Cartesian dualism and modern interpretations of Stoicism, and is reflected in common phrases like appeal to emotion or your emotions have taken over.” “Depression is a serious biologic disease that affects millions of people each year. The encouraging news is that it may be successfully treated. Learn how you can manage your depression by reaching out to others such as a health care professional or family and 83
  • friends.” Psychology and mood: • Depression (mood), a common term for a sad or low mood or emotional state, or the loss of pleasure. • Clinical depression, or major depressive disorder, a clinical term for a state of intense sadness, melancholia or despair that has advanced to the point of being disruptive to an individual's social functioning and/or activities of daily living. Subtypes of clinical depression: • Melancholic depression, characterized by the inability to find pleasure in positive things combined with physical agitation, insomnia, or decreased appetite. • Atypical depression, a common long term cyclical form of depression in which the individual can feel enjoyment, eat, and sleep, but there is significant lethargy, a 'leaden' feeling, and a strong response to rejection-related issues. • Psychotic depression, in which clinical depression co-exists with psychotic or delusional perceptions. • Postpartum depression, depression following childbirth, sometimes known as 'postpartum blues'. Now do Christians get into these kinds of “depressions”? And if so how do they deal with them. I often hear that Charles Spurgeon had “depression”? And I ask myself how is that possible? So I found this article about Charles Spurgeon: • “Few men in God’s army have been as faithful and productive as Charles Spurgeon. His work output, as it is recounted, seems almost superhuman: The church had many institutions which needed constant input from Spurgeon, such as the Pastor’s College, the Almshouses, the Orphanage, the Colportage Association and many evangelistic and compassionate societies, the latter usually being chaired by the elders. There were 66 of these by the time Spurgeon had been pastor for 25 years. The Pastor’s College generated a great deal of work, not only in the regular interviewing, lecturing and oversight, but also in the endeavors and cares of the churches founded by former students . . . Spurgeon’s literary work was immense. He compiled more than 140 books, maintained the monthly The Sword and the Trowel magazine (from 1865), and edited the weekly sermon (The Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit) . . . [and] he responded to an average of 500 letters each week (p. 11). What is even more amazing is that he accomplished all this while having regular bouts with serious illness throughout the last 24 years of his life. These letters, many of which were written from France while on leaves of absence due to illness, are addressed to his congregation. Many of them speak of his pain and his trials, many of them speak of his great passion for the salvation of the lost, but all of them reflect the love and concern of a true pastor. The letters are divided into three time periods, Part 1: 1876-83; Part 2: 1884-90; Part 3: 1891-92. At the end of the book appear several short articles and sermons written by Spurgeon. This attractive volume includes pictures, illustrations, annotations regarding the circumstances referred to in the letters, and pictures of some of the original letters.” 84
  • Then I have read D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones Spiritual Depression (the book is not about depression) which is used to say that Christians can have depression. • “Very well, that is what I regard as perhaps the most important rule of all, that we must not concentrate overmuch upon our feelings. Do not spend too much time feeling your own pulse taking your own spiritual temperature, do not spend too much time analyzing your feelings. That is the high road to morbidity (p. 115);” • “If you want to be truly happy and blessed, if you would like to know true joy as a Christian, here is the prescription: ‘Blessed (truly happy) are they who do hunger and thirst after righteousness’ not after happiness.” This book is not so much about depression (a word that has taken on official, clinical connotations), as it is about a lack of joy in the Christian life. • End of this post, maybe. Thanks dear, deer, doe, Charity. Your buck Charles. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:44AM (-05:00) Time To Relax After Sunday's Services Friday, August 07, 2009 After a day on Sunday. Relaxing. We need April to help us look less relax with here photo program Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:01AM (-05:00) 85
  • Should Christians Stay In A State of Depression Friday, August 07, 2009 WHAT IS DEPRESSION Feeling down from time to time is a normal part of life. But when emptiness and despair take hold and won't go away, it may be depression. More than just the temporary "blues," the lows of depression make it tough to function and enjoy life like you once did. Hobbies and friends don’t interest you like they used to; you’re exhausted all the time; and just getting through the day can be overwhelming. When you’re depressed, things may feel hopeless, but with help and support you can get better. But first, you need to understand depression. Learning about depression — including its signs, symptoms, causes, and treatment — is the first step to overcoming the problem. So tell me, who does not have these symptoms at times. Are we already into "depression" or are we going into depression? I can say, "I Am Depressed." So does that makes it okay to accept it? Common signs and symptoms of depression * Feelings of helplessness and hopelessness. A bleak outlook—nothing will ever get better and there’s nothing you can do to improve your situation. * Loss of interest in daily activities. No interest in or ability to enjoy former hobbies, pastimes, social activities, or sex. * Appetite or weight changes. Significant weight loss or weight gain—a change of more than 5% of body weight in a month. * Sleep changes. Either insomnia, especially waking in the early hours of the morning, or oversleeping (also known as hypersomnia). * Psychomotor agitation or retardation. Either feeling “keyed up” and restless or sluggish and physically slowed down. * Loss of energy. Feeling fatigued and physically drained. Even small tasks are exhausting or take longer. * Self-loathing. Strong feelings of worthlessness or guilt. Harsh criticism of perceived faults and mistakes. * Concentration problems. Trouble focusing, making decisions, or remembering things. So look that this list..... To have the attitudes of some of these is sinful, wrongful thinking. And you are saying, "I can't help it?" I might feel restless or sluggish or feel fatigue and physically drained or not able to focus or not feeling strong and this attitude might get me to feel hopeless. I don't say, "I am depressed!" I don't say I am worthless. Well I might. But I don't believe it. I don't take my thoughts and make them law of my life. Am I as a Christian believer worthless? No. Might I feel worthless in the sight of God? Yes. AM I? No. 86 I am not going to act upon feelings to the point of believing I am worthless. Which if I do,
  • can lead me to false reading of my self. Had I read into some of the events that have taken place in my ministry and life, I would be really depressed, heart broken, sad, sluggish, and worthless. And I would have just quit and got into the term used by the medical field, as manic depressive. What is that anyway? If that had happen I would not be the Pastor/Teacher of Rivers of Joy Baptist Church. Well, you say, I don't know how all this has happen? I now find myself with all these symptoms. This could be true I am sure. So that is why it is important to keep a daily tap on your life. Remember you are more than the sum total of all your negative experiences. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:36AM (-05:00) CAN CHRISTIANS BE BIPOLAR? Friday, August 07, 2009 FOOTNOTE: First I am not a writer, as you can tell, and I just put down thoughts that most of the time seem ramdom in nature. Sorry about that. • It seems believers are being identified more by psychiatric labels than by their fruit. Labels like ADHD, bipolar, panic attacks, OCD and integration sensory disorder are becoming more normal than the list from Galatians 5:22-23 to describe the Church. • Since more believers are being diagnosed with these and other kinds of psychiatric labels pastors, elders and lay counselors are finding it difficult to offer counsel that seems relevant. Sufferers bear the emotional, physical, mental, and relational burden of the diagnosis, while pastors are hard pressed to understand and accept the premise of the diagnosis. The believer who is looking for comfort and guidance from their leaders typically struggle with the counsel they receive because a gap of misunderstanding separates them. BIPOLOAR DISORDER OR MANIC DEPRESSION • Bipolar disorder, also known as manic depression, manic depressive disorder or bipolar affective disorder, is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a category of mood disorders defined by the presence of one or more episodes of abnormally 87
  • elevated mood clinically referred to as mania or, if milder, hypomania. Individuals who experience manic episodes also commonly experience depressive episodes or symptoms, or mixed episodes in which features of both mania and depression are present at the same time. These episodes are usually separated by periods of "normal" mood, but in some individuals, depression and mania may rapidly alternate, known as rapid cycling. Extreme manic episodes can sometimes lead to psychotic symptoms such as delusions and hallucinations. The disorder has been subdivided into bipolar I, bipolar II, cyclothymia, and other types, based on the nature and severity of mood episodes experienced; the range is often described as the bipolar spectrum. You click on the blue for the definitions of these terms. Here is my point, it is not that Christians don't get themselves in these conditions. They do. But should they have gotten themselves in theses conditions? DIAGNOSIS • Diagnosis is based on the self-reported experiences of an individual as well as abnormalities in behavior reported by family members, friends or co-workers, followed by secondary signs observed by a psychiatrist, nurse, social worker, clinical psychologist or other clinician in a clinical assessment. There are lists of criteria for someone to be so diagnosed. These depend on both the presence and duration of certain signs and symptoms. Assessment is usually done on an outpatient basis; admission to an inpatient facility is considered if there is a risk to oneself or others. The most widely used criteria for diagnosing bipolar disorder are from the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the current version being DSM-IV-TR, and the World Health Organization's International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems, currently the ICD-10. The latter criteria are typically used in Europe and other regions while the DSM criteria are used in the USA and other regions, as well as prevailing in research studies. So there you have it. Can we say that those who have bioplar disorder have a form of mental illness? What is mental illness? Good question. What percentage of Christian pastors suffer from some type of mental illness? • I am sure many pastors of all churches suffer from some kind of mental illness? I have worked I am sure with a few of them. So who makes the disagnoses of our conditions? • We go to the doctor, what kind of disagnoses is he going to give us? We go to a friend what kind of dosagnoes will they give? We go to a professional counseler what is their disagnoses? What if we were to go to a pastor/teacher, what would be the disagoses? What if we went to all these people? How many different disagnoses would we have and how to solve them? How would a medical doctor view a conditon verses a pastor/teacher? Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 02:24PM (-05:00) 88
  • Satan the Devil Sermon and Video Monday, August 10, 2009 THIS MONDAY MORNING IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER GREAT WEEK. Philippians 1:27 The Christian is a Citizen of Heaven Sunday Night's message (video coming) The Practices of Satan to Deceive the Unbeliever and To Stop Christians in their tracks I Thessalonians 2:18 Sunday Morning's message Satan Is Deceptive and A Lier pt 1 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Charles E. Whisnant, Pastor/Teacher Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, Minford Ohio August 09, 2009 Sunday Morning speaking from I Thessalonians 2 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 01:24AM (-05:00) People, Science, God and Evolution Monday, August 10, 2009 In today's USA August 10, 2009 in August 10 2009 THE FORUM page 2 ON RELIGION "WE BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION - AND GOD" Quote: • "Nearly half of Americans still dispute the indisputable: that humans evolved to our current form over millions of years. We're scientists and Christians. Our message to the faithful: Fear Not." Karl Giberson and Darrel Falk • "Like most scientists who believe in God, we find no contradiction between the scientific understanding of the world, and the belief that God created that world. And that includes Charles Darwin's theory of evolution." So there you have it. 2009 People still believe humans came from a lower form of animals. And when God created Adam, he was not like what we believe. We continue our series on CREATION on Wednesday Evening.. Genesis One is the beginning, or is not. Day Six God created Man or Ape. Notes later. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:19PM (-05:00) 89
  • It's A Devil of a Message Monday, August 10, 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:12PM (-05:00) IT IS A DEVIL OF A MESSAGE Tuesday, August 11, 2009 IT HAS BEEN A DEVIL OF A MESSAGE from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Charles E. Whisnant, August 09. 2009 AM part three Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:17AM (-05:00) IT IS A DEVIL OF A MESSAGE Tuesday, August 11, 2009 IT HAS BEEN A DEVIL OF A MESSAGE from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Charles E. Whisnant, August 09. 2009 AM part three THE DEVIL AND HIS CROWD OUT TO GET, DISTRACT, AND CAUSE DOUBTS ' The Outline of this message.....click on the above title. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:17AM (-05:00) Johnny Edwards Wednesday, August 12, 2009 Johnny Edwards singing at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church August 09 2009 Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:27AM (-05:00) Update: Computer 2009 Wednesday, August 12, 2009 Greetings. I am located today in the Pastor/Teachers office and study of Charles E. Whisnant, and just had Minford Telephone to put in a ADSL wireless router and I am using my vostro 1500. Which my wife Charity bought for me last week. 90 Now for the first time since coming as Pastor/Teacher of Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, I
  • am able to use the Internet Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:59AM (-05:00) Charles E. Whisnant Teaching On Wednesday Evening Friday, August 14, 2009 I said I would like a photo from my video from Wednesday Evening Bible study. I discovered from Kodek software that I could stop the video any where I desired. When I found a picture that I liked, I stopped the video and was able to copy it. New discovery for me. Then I paste the copy on Microsoft office doc. That was fun. But I could not save a copy of the photo. So I was able to save the doc. Then I was able to send the doc. via e mail. That was cool. Then I was able to send the doc to my blogger. That was really cool stuff. And that is what you see here. How cool is that. And then I could save the photo on My Pictures. Now cool is that. Now the video from this photo is now posted here. That is really cool stuff. Do Fossels Prove Man Came From Apes? from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Part of Charles E. Whisnant, Message from August 12, 2009 on Creation Day Six continues. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:04AM (-05:00) Sunday Morning August 16, 2009 Sunday, August 16, 2009 The road to the church this morning. A view of my binders in the library this morning This is the lap top sitting on the table in the library office this morning Good Morning from Rivers of Joy Baptist Church in Minford, Ohio. Sunday Morning August 16, 200d We9. I am sitting in my office/library. How cool is that 91
  • I am still learning how to use this lap top. Today we are going to start the book of ROMANS. I love this book. We are going to give an overview of the book. This is going to be a renewing of your mind. This could be a life changing adventure! • John Calvin: “If a man understands this book, he has a sure road of understanding of the whole of Scripture.” William Tyndale: “Romans is deep, profound, divine, yet it is in the grasp of all of us. • In this book you have Paul giving the essences of the last word of the Christian faith. It says all Paul intends to sum up and say about the gospel of Jesus Christ. This book will guard you against, guard you from heresy IMPORTANT WORDS IN THE BOOK OF ROMANS: God (153), Law (72), Christ 65 Sin 48 Lord 43 Faith 40. Romans is about those terms. So the book of Romans is about God, Law, Christ, Sin, The Lord, Faith. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:59AM (-05:00) Remarks About Sunday Monday, August 17, 2009 Good Morning, this Monday August 17, 2009. I am having a difficult time with using the LP. I do not know why all the trouble. Well, I might figure all this out . Nevertheless, I am glad to have the LP. I do not have Kodak software so no pictures on LP. I will return to the other computure for that process. Yesterday was another good day in worship. From my personal point of view, all went well. The Lord gave us a great day. I trust that we also brought joy to the Lord's heart as well. I enjoyed teaching in Bible Study, from the book ofProverbs. I enjoyed the music in the Worship hour. Then I began the series in Romans chapter one. In the afternoon I finished up the outline to Philippians 1:27. I would say also we had a good time of singing 92 and worship. Ic was not happy that Tiger Woods was beaten for the first time in the PGA,
  • but that is life. So I will finish this up and later go to the other Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:25AM (-05:00) The Book of Romans Series Monday, August 17, 2009 Introduction To Romans 1 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Charles E. Whisnant, Rivers of Joy, August 16, 2009 Introduction to Romans Questions Romans Will Answer from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Charles E. Whisnant, August 16,l 2006 Introduction to the book of Romans. Questions Romans Answers 3 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Charles E. Whisnant, Rivers of Joy Baptist Church. August 16, 2009. Introduction to the book of Romans part three of four. Closing Remarks on Romans from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Charles E. Whisnant, August 16, 2009 Closing remarks on the introduction of Romans - Johnny Edwards singing. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 09:45PM (-05:00) Charles E. Whisnant, Teaching from Romans Tuesday, August 18, 2009 From the video I was able to capture this photos. Cool. I didn't realize how much I use my hands while preaching. The pulpit is really large isn't it? Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:11AM (-05:00) 93
  • Charles E. Whisnant, Preaching & Teaching Wednesday, August 19, 2009 Grow By Learning is the theme here. I ask Charity if she had taken a photo of me at church. She always says, well. So yesterday while I was working on uploading my message, I discovered I could stop the video anywhere I desired and copy. And then I could paste the photo on Microsoft and save to my picture and then up load to my Blogger. How cool is that? I was teaching Sunday Morning on the Introduction of Romans in the above. The photo was from the video below. How cool is that? Questions Romans Will Answer from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Charles E. Whisnant, August 16,l 2006 Introduction to the book of Romans. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:49AM (-05:00) Christ Our Hope And Salvation Friday, August 21, 2009 Good Morning The Lord is our strength and source of hope, joy and provides us His grace to maintain faithful to Him. He created mankind so that He could display His kindness and love toward mankind. 94
  • God is putting together a group of people who are going to give glory to His Son, Jesus Christ, for ever. Heaven is a place where the Trinity dwells, and a place that we who by God's grace alone have been saved by His grace will dwell with the Trinity. This plan was settled before the foundation of the world, set in motion early in the process of Creation. And history is a story of God saving sinners and giving them to His Son Jesus Christ as a Bride who will adore Him forever. To walk with Christ has His Bride is a joy unspeakable and full of glory. Its not only in words but in our hearts, mind and body. We rejoice in Christ. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 05:27AM (-05:00) Creation Day Six Outline Saturday, August 22, 2009 The Trinity's Plan Before Creation 1 from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimo For the Outline (click) This is really cool. From Linkin.com they were nice enought to dowlnoad my outline from Mocrosoft office. You can see it with a full screen. (you need to click the screen again to get back). GROW BY LEARNING FOLKS. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:41AM (-05:00) Ellen and Stephen Saturday, August 22, 2009 I can't believe Stephen is now 20 years old.My sister took her son back to Lynchburg, Va. to college this week. She is having way too much fun, I think, according to Facebook. She stopped over in Danville, VA. I could say a lot about Danville, Va. Our Dad had died in February 1966, and Mom and the family were asked to move to Danville, by Bob Barber, Jr. Mom was worked for Bob at the Baptist Tabernacle. I was going to Seminary in Arlington, Tx. And Ellen was a kid, let me see, 1958 to 1966 would be about 7 or 8 years old. Don was a Senior in High School. I believe we were all a little upset to be without our Dad. I finished my first year at BBS and came back for the summer, and worked for Southhall Baptist Church. That was a real experience. While I loved working with the teens, and very successful for sure, so successful that the preacher didn't like it. Oh well, my life story for the next 20 years. Don and I went back to Seminary in 1967 and had a good year. I really can't remember what happen next. I know I stayed in Fort Worth, Tx in a hotel in downtown, and worked for Mrs Baird Bread Bakery. And I visited 95
  • the First Baptist Church in Fort Worth, that was a good expereince. Those were years of learning and growing. Let us skip over those years, and now we are in 2009. And life for us is so good. Charity and I are doing the best we have ever had it. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:53PM (-05:00) Charles E. Whisnant Monday, August 24, 2009 SO AM I TEACHING OR PREACHING OR BOTH? Wednesday Night Bible Study Augut 19, 2009 People sometimes characterize a meticulous preacher as a better teacher than a preacher. While different people will mean different things in describing someone as a preacher or teacher, many people today in general think of preaching as speaking forcefully, pounding on the pulpit, speaking loudly, demanding a "amen", having a prepared command of scripture, making application and using illustrations, and then exhorting people to follow biblical concepts. By teaching, many people think teaching is presenting a passage of scripture, commenting upon it, and making explanations to make the meaning of the biblical passage clear. And of course, some overlapping of preaching and teaching is normally accredited. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:57AM (-05:00) So Really What Is Preaching? Thursday, August 27, 2009 NOW WHAT IS PREACHING? OR WHAT I LIKE TO CALL TEACHING. I looked up the term "preaching" from Microsoft Word dictionary. 96
  • 1. To give a talk on a religious or moral subject. 2. To give advice on morality or behavior in an frustratingly, or infuriatingly, irritatingly tedious or overbearing way. 3. To make an opinion or attitude known to others and urge others to share it. I realize that there are so many brands of preachers and preaching. But I am talking to Baptist. I am a Baptist, and will always be a Baptist. Now that also has many different definitions. Here is my definition of a Baptist. 1. The Word of God is blueprint of doing the Lord's Work in the Lord's Way. 2. I define a Baptist as one who looks to the Word as the guide for policy and conduct and preachingh Style of preaching is not found in the Bible. Well, I don't believe anyone preaching today, would have the style of Jesus, or Peter, or even Paul. They style should not be the point. I don't believe Jesus ever stood behind a pulpit. But that doesn't make it wrong either. The style is not so important. Style without content is not good either. Preaching has been defined in a number of ways. Biblical preaching will teach the Word of God. Preaching is giving forth the Word of God. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 06:37PM (-05:00) 97
  • How Should We Present the Word of God Friday, August 28, 2009 How Should We Preach/Teach the Word from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo. Charles E. Whisnant, August 23, 2009 Sunday Evening from Philippians 1:28. What is the method of preaching or teaching the Word of God to the people of God. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 09:50AM (-05:00) Salvation is Transforming Power of Christ Friday, August 28, 2009 This has been another great day. When you can learn something new you grow. How great is the transforming power of the salvation of Jesus Christ Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 07:07PM (-05:00) To Go To Heaven You Need To Know Saturday, August 29, 2009 The 18 words you need to know to go to Heaven. 1. Death, 2. Devil, 3. Election, 4. Faith, 98
  • 5. Fellowship, 6. Grace, 7. Holiness, 8. Justification, 9. Lord, 10. Mediator, 11. Mortification, 12. Reconciliation, 13. Regeneration, 14. Revelation, 15. Sanctification, 16. Scripture, 17. Sin & 18. World. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:07PM (-05:00) Bible Study Handouts Are Good. Why? Monday, August 31, 2009 Giving Out Handouts of Lessons from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 08:21AM (-05:00) How Do We Learn The Fear of the Lord Monday, August 31, 2009 99
  • Words Express for Fear of the Lord from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo. So How Does A Person Learn To Fear The Lord View more documents from cewhisnant. Posted by Charles E. Whisnant at 12:38PM (-05:00) 100
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