Catholic Protestant Distinctions

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Catholic Protestant Distinctions

  1. 1. CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT DISTINCTIONS: SEEKING TO UNDERSTAND OUR DIFFERENCES Charlie A. Roy Peoria Notre Dame High School Diocese of Peoria – Summer Institute 2003
  2. 2. UNDERSTANDING THE ORIGIN OF THE DIFFERENCE <ul><li>All Religions seek to provide the answer to some fundamental problem. </li></ul><ul><li>Examples </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Islam – moral ignorance </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Buddhism – suffering </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Hinduism – cycle of Samsara </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Christianity and the fundamental problem </li></ul><ul><ul><li>SIN </li></ul></ul>
  3. 3. THE DOUBLE EFFECTS OF SIN <ul><li>Separation from God </li></ul><ul><ul><li>The dignity of the offended. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Distance from God and humanity. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Fundamental human dilemma </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Can’t redeem ourselves </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Can’t bridge the gap </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><li>Attachment to Sin </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Human element </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Stuck in Sin </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Enjoy what we do </li></ul></ul>
  4. 4. GOD HINTS OF HOW THIS PROBLEM WILL BE SOLVED <ul><li>Genesis 3:15 – Proto –Evangelium </li></ul><ul><ul><li>“ I will put enmity between you and the woman……her seed shall smash the head of the serpent.” </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Genesis 22:13 – Ram caught in the thickets </li></ul><ul><li>Leviticus 16:21 - The Scapegoat concept </li></ul><ul><li>Isaiah 53 – The Suffering Servant Songs </li></ul>
  5. 5. JESUS IS THE ANSWER <ul><li>Why Jesus? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Divine and human </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Capable of bridging the infinite gap of sin </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Accomplishes our atonement or at-one-ment with God. </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Why does he have to die? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Only way out of a covenant is death. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Crucifixion = greatest moment of love ever where God offers himself for our fault upon the cross. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>The paradox of Christianity – a stumbling block </li></ul></ul>
  6. 6. AMAZING EVENTS WITH JESUS’ DEATH <ul><li>Vale of the temple is torn in two </li></ul><ul><li>Gate falls down – recorded by Josephus </li></ul>
  7. 7. CATHOLIC VIEW OF SALVATION <ul><li>Salvation = Sonship </li></ul><ul><li>1 John 3:1 </li></ul><ul><ul><li>“ See what love the Father has given us that we have become children of God, and so we are” </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Galatians 4:4-7 </li></ul><ul><ul><li>“ But when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons” </li></ul></ul><ul><li>2 nd Peter 1:4 </li></ul><ul><ul><li>“ by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promise that we might escape from corruption that is in the world and become partakers of the divine nature” </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Catechism 459, 460 </li></ul>
  8. 8. SACRAMENTAL ECONOMY <ul><li>Sacraments prefigured in OT rituals. </li></ul><ul><li>Sacraments predicted by the prophets </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Ezekiel 36:25-28 </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Sacraments give sanctifying grace to us- grace a share in the life of God. </li></ul><ul><li>Deep sea diving analogy. </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Heaven is not a natural state </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Need supernatural grace etc. to live there </li></ul></ul>
  9. 11. WHAT ABOUT GOOD WORKS? <ul><li>Not Pelagian. We do not earn grace. </li></ul><ul><li>By the effects of grace we keep the Ten Commandments </li></ul><ul><li>Our Good works are rewarded </li></ul>
  10. 12. UNDERSTANDING MERIT <ul><li>Strict merit </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Legal </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Contracts / purchases </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Congruent merit </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Expected but not required </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Tipping, holding the door open for someone </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><li>Condign merit </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Based on a promise </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>This is the type of merit we are talking about. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Titus 3:8, Matthew 10:42, Timothy 3:16-17 </li></ul></ul></ul>
  11. 13. HEAVEN IS NOT COMMUNISM <ul><li>Differing degrees of glory. </li></ul><ul><li>St. Therese and the bucket analogy. </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Everyone expands their own capability to mirror God’s love. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Some respond better than others. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>In heaven everyone as happy and holy as they can be. </li></ul></ul>
  12. 14. TO BE IN HEAVEN <ul><li>Need God’s grace. </li></ul><ul><li>Need to be holy </li></ul><ul><li>Second effect of sin: attachment </li></ul><ul><ul><li>God’s remedy </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Confession </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Absolution = forgiveness </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Penance severs the attachment to sin. </li></ul></ul></ul>
  13. 15. GRACE BUT ATTACHED TO SIN <ul><li>Catholic Understanding of Purgatory </li></ul><ul><li>Where is it in the Bible? </li></ul><ul><ul><li>2 nd Maccabbees 12:46 </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>1 st Corinthians 3:15 </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>2 nd Timothy 1:16-17 </li></ul></ul>
  14. 16. SUMMARY OF CATHOLIC VIEW OF SALVATION <ul><li>Only possible because of Christ </li></ul><ul><li>Grace possible and offered through Sacramental Economy </li></ul><ul><li>We become sons and daughters of God </li></ul><ul><li>Salvation by impartation: God’s grace imparted to us. </li></ul><ul><li>Our actions don’t earn us heaven but they are meritorious before God. </li></ul>
  15. 17. BACKGROUND OF PROTESTANT REVOLUTION <ul><li>Rise of Nominalism </li></ul><ul><ul><li>William of Ockham – stresses the all powerfulness of God. “God could have crucified a donkey to atone for our sins.” Heavy Islamic influence. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Gabriel Biel: Luther’s professor extends Nominalism to Theology and stresses God usually acts in a predictable way and rewards those who do their asolute best </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Black Plague </li></ul><ul><ul><li>1/3 of population dies </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>90% of clergy </li></ul></ul>
  16. 18. LUTHER’S TEACHING <ul><li>Romans 3:28: “ Man is saved by faith apart from works of the Law” </li></ul><ul><li>Faith imputes righteousness. </li></ul><ul><li>Luther’s dung analogy </li></ul><ul><ul><li>We switch places with Christ on the cross. </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>We are essentially horrible and our faith covers us like snow covering a dung heap </li></ul></ul><ul><ul><li>Misreading of the crucifixion – Psalm 22 key. </li></ul></ul>
  17. 20. LOGICAL OUTCOMES OF SALVATION BY IMPUTATION <ul><li>Purgatory </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Instant justification provides no means for losing the attachments to sin. </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Cult of the Saints </li></ul><ul><ul><li>No need for intercessors. </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Mortal and Venial Sin </li></ul><ul><ul><li>Faith only- “I could commit adultery a thousand times a day and still go to heaven” </li></ul></ul><ul><li>Confession – not needed after theology regarding attachment to sin is abandoned. Luther’s comment. </li></ul><ul><li>No Free Will – so damaged we can only sin. </li></ul><ul><li>Double Predestination –logical outcome of no free will. </li></ul>
  18. 21. SOLA SCRIPTURA <ul><li>Scripture alone is needed not the Church’s authority to interpret the Scriptures. </li></ul><ul><li>Anyone can interpret as well as anyone else. </li></ul><ul><li>Catholic View </li></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Magesterium of the Church interprets Scripture </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>2 nd Peter 1:20 “No scripture or prophecy is a matter of one’s own personal interpretation.” </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>2 nd Peter 3:16 “Peter warns many in his own day are twisting the scriptures to their own ends. </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Matthew 18:17-18 “If he refuses to listen tell it to the Church.” </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Acts 8:30-31 “Phillip interprets the scroll” </li></ul></ul></ul><ul><ul><ul><li>Acts 15 Council of Jerusalem </li></ul></ul></ul>
  19. 22. NATURAL OUTCOMES <ul><li>Splintering of denominations </li></ul><ul><li>22,000 now exist in North America </li></ul><ul><li>Clergy lose authority to teach. </li></ul><ul><li>Everyman for themselves. </li></ul>
  20. 23. SUMMARY <ul><li>One small difference in view of salvation leads to large difference over time. </li></ul><ul><li>Differences rest with: Sola Fidei, Sola Scriptura, and the Priesthood of all believers. </li></ul>

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