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  • 1. TextFaith Beyond Fundamentalism & Anti-Fundamentalism: where do we go from here?
  • 2. Faith Beyond Stage 1:Four Stages in the Journey of Faith Text
  • 3. Sea anemones at 88 feet, natural light
  • 4. Same sea anemones at 88 feet, with full spectrum light
  • 5. What you see depends on your available light.Your available light depends on your depth or stage of ascent.
  • 6. Four Stages on the Journey of Faith
  • 7. Is this normal?What should I expect next? Are we there yet? Will this be on the test?Why do I need to learn this?
  • 8. stages levels zonesturnings
  • 9. William Blake - innocence, experiences, higher experience Soren Kierkegaard - aesthetic, ethical, religious William Perry - dualism (a,b), multiplicity (a,b), relativism (a,b), commitment (a,b,c)James Fowler - primal, mythical-literal, synthetic- conventional, individual-reflective, conjunctive, universalizingGraves/Beck/Wilber - archaic-instinctive, animist/ tribal, ego-centric-exploitive, absolutist - authoritarian, scientific strategic, relativistic-personalistic - communitarian; systemic-integral, holistic
  • 10. Four Stages of FaithDevelopment
  • 11. Stage 1
  • 12. Stage 1Simplicity
  • 13. Stage 1
  • 14. Stage 1 SimplicityYou’re either for us or againstus. It’s all or nothing.
  • 15. Stage 1
  • 16. Stage 1 SimplicityFocus: Right or wrong? Good orbad?Motive: Pleasing authorityfigures, being an insider “us”Perception: Dualistic
  • 17. Stage 1
  • 18. Stage 1 Beliefs-everything is known orknowable; there are easyanswers to every question-good authorities/us are the oneswho know the right answers-the bad guys/them are wrong
  • 19. Stage 1
  • 20. Stage 1 AuthoritiesGodlike, God’s representatives,they know and give answers
  • 21. Stage 1
  • 22. Stage 1 SimplicityLife is a war.
  • 23. Stage 1
  • 24. Stage 1Identity: In my leader or group.Relationships: Dependent or co- dependent
  • 25. Stage 1
  • 26. Stage 1 Simplicity God is …The Ultimate Authority Figure or Ultimate Friend
  • 27. Stage 1
  • 28. Stage 1 SimplicitySTRENGTHS: highly committed,willing to sacrifice and suffer.WEAKNESSES: May be willingto inflict suffering or kill.Arrogant, simplistic, combative,judgmental, intolerant
  • 29. Stage 1
  • 30. Stage 1Simplicity
  • 31. Stage 2
  • 32. Stage 2Complexity
  • 33. Stage 2
  • 34. Stage 2 ComplexityThere’s more than one way todo things.
  • 35. Stage 2
  • 36. Stage 2 ComplexityFocus: Effective or ineffective?Technique, winning, successMotive: Reach goals, beingeffectivePerception: Pragmatic
  • 37. Stage 2
  • 38. Stage 2 Beliefs: -anything is doable-there are many ways to reach the goal-authorities/us are the ones who know how to do it-the bad guys don’t do the right stuff
  • 39. Stage 2
  • 40. Stage 2 AuthoritiesCoaches. They help you growand succeed with know-how.
  • 41. Stage 2
  • 42. Stage 2 ComplexityLife is a game.Learn the rules. Play to win.
  • 43. Stage 2
  • 44. Stage 2 ComplexityIdentity: My cause orachievement.Relationships: Increasinglyindependent.
  • 45. Stage 2
  • 46. Stage 2 Complexity God is …The Ultimate Guide or Coach
  • 47. Stage 2
  • 48. Stage 2 ComplexitySTRENGTHS: Enthusiasm,idealism, actionWEAKNESSES: Superficial,naïve, overly pragmatic
  • 49. Stage 2
  • 50. Stage 2Complexity
  • 51. Stage 3
  • 52. Stage 3Perplexity
  • 53. Stage 3
  • 54. Stage 3 PerplexityEveryone has an opinion. Whoknows who is right?
  • 55. Stage 3
  • 56. Stage 3 PerplexityFocus: Honest or dishonest?Authentic or inauthentic?Motive: Being honest orauthenticPerception: Relativistic, critical
  • 57. Stage 3
  • 58. Stage 3 Beliefs -little/nothing is known or knowable; everybody has an opinion-good people are honest about their questions
  • 59. Stage 3
  • 60. Stage 3 Authorities are ... Controllers The EnemyTrying to impose easy answers on the naïve Trying to use the naive
  • 61. Stage 3
  • 62. Stage 3PerplexityLife is … a joke mystery or search
  • 63. Stage 3
  • 64. Stage 3Identity: In solitude, or among asmall band of similarly alienatedfriends Relationships: Counter- dependent
  • 65. Stage 3
  • 66. Stage 3 PerplexityGod is … mythic authority I’ve outgrown mysterious reality I’m seeking or opiate of the pathetic masses
  • 67. Stage 3
  • 68. Stage 3 PerplexitySTRENGTHS: depth, honesty,sensitivity to suffering, perhapsironic humorWEAKNESSES: cynical,uncommitted, withdrawn,critical, depressed, elitist
  • 69. Stage 3
  • 70. Stage 3Perplexity
  • 71. Stage 4
  • 72. Stage 4Humility/Harmony
  • 73. Stage 4
  • 74. Stage 4 Humility/HarmonySeek first God’s kingdom … loveGod, love neighbors … inessentials unity … focus on afew grand essentials
  • 75. Stage 4
  • 76. Stage 4 Humility/HarmonyFocus: Wise or unwise?Fulfilling potentialMotive: Serve, contribute, makea differencePerception: Integrated,synthesizing, sympathetic
  • 77. Stage 4
  • 78. Stage 4 Beliefs-some things are known, many are mysteries; life is a quest -there is no “them”
  • 79. Stage 4
  • 80. Stage 4 Authorities people like me imperfect sometimes doing their best, sometimes dishonest,sometimes sincerely misguided
  • 81. Stage 4
  • 82. Stage 4 Life is ...What you make it (with God’s help)
  • 83. Stage 4
  • 84. Stage 4Identity: In mutual relationshipsRelationships: Interdependent
  • 85. Stage 4
  • 86. Stage 4 God is ...Knowable in part, yetmysterious, present yettranscendent, just yet merciful(able to hold truths in tension --“paradoxy”)
  • 87. Stage 4
  • 88. Stage 4 Humility/HarmonySTRENGTHS: May exhibitstrengths of previous stages,plus stability, endurance,wisdomWEAKNESSES: May displayweaknesses of earlier stages
  • 89. Stage 4
  • 90. Stage 4Humility/Harmony
  • 91. Stage 1
  • 92. Stage 1Simplicity
  • 93. Stage 2
  • 94. Stage 2Complexity
  • 95. Stage 3
  • 96. Stage 3Perplexity
  • 97. Stage 4
  • 98. Stage 4Humility/Harmony
  • 99. Doubtoccurs atmargins.
  • 100. An observation:
  • 101. An observation: Cults and “bad faith” or “toxic” religion can be seen as groupswhich require people to revert to a Stage 1 status and stay there.
  • 102. An observation: Cults and “bad faith” or “toxic” religion can be seen as groupswhich require people to revert to a Stage 1 status and stay there. Stage 1 is easier for the leaders and followers … in a way.
  • 103. An observation:
  • 104. An observation: Whole denominations orparachurch organizations seem to specialize in certain stages, and fail people in other stages.
  • 105. An observation:
  • 106. An observation: Leaders seldom (never?) leadpeople in a stage beyond their own.
  • 107. An observation: Leaders seldom (never?) leadpeople in a stage beyond their own. 1’s lead 1’s.
  • 108. An observation: Leaders seldom (never?) leadpeople in a stage beyond their own. 1’s lead 1’s. 2’s lead 2’s and 1’s.
  • 109. An observation: Leaders seldom (never?) leadpeople in a stage beyond their own. 1’s lead 1’s. 2’s lead 2’s and 1’s. 3’s lead 3’s and 2’s.
  • 110. An observation: Leaders seldom (never?) leadpeople in a stage beyond their own. 1’s lead 1’s. 2’s lead 2’s and 1’s. 3’s lead 3’s and 2’s. 4’s lead 4’s and 3’s (plus?)
  • 111. An observation:
  • 112. An observation:Stage 3 is tough on everybody -- leaders and followers.
  • 113. An observation:
  • 114. An observation:Jesus models working with people in each stage, and always brings them farther on the journey.
  • 115. A question:
  • 116. A question:How do we minister to people withsuch contrary expectations, needs, issues, and desires?
  • 117. A question:How do we minister to people withsuch contrary expectations, needs, issues, and desires? A direction:
  • 118. A question:How do we minister to people withsuch contrary expectations, needs, issues, and desires? A direction:Explore Jesus as teacher … not justin content, but also in method.
  • 119. An important reminder
  • 120. An important reminderThe goal isn’t to rush through the stages to get to 4 as soon as possible.
  • 121. An important reminderThe goal isn’t to rush through the stages to get to 4 as soon as possible.Each stage has lessons to teach, and prepares for the next.
  • 122. An important reminderThe goal isn’t to rush through the stages to get to 4 as soon as possible.Each stage has lessons to teach, and prepares for the next.
  • 123. disciple Dis*ci"ple, n. [OE. disciple, deciple,OF. disciple, fr. L. discipulus, fr. discere tolearn (akin to docere to teach; see Docile) +prob. a root meaning to turn or drive, as in L.pellere to drive (see Pulse).] One whoreceives instruction from another; a scholar;a learner; especially, a follower who haslearned to believe in the truth of the doctrineof his teacher; an adherent in doctrine; as,the disciples of Plato; the disciples of ourSavior
  • 124. We need churches and ministriesthat help people at all levels ...
  • 125. We need churches and ministriesthat help people at all levels ...
  • 126. Four Stages in the journey of faith
  • 127. SIMPLICITY
  • 128. COMPLEXITY
  • 129. PERPLEXITY
  • 130. HARMONY
  • 131. R S N M Q E L D O K C A F B J G HT I P
  • 132. R S W N M Q E L D O K CV A F B J G H T I P U
  • 133. Four Stages on the Journey of Faith