5. My quest ... the church on the other side a new kind of christian a generous orthodoxy adventures in missing the point the story we ﬁnd ourselves in the secret message of Jesus everything must change ﬁnding our way again a new kind of christianity naked spirituality
6. Some theological problemsare modular
7. Some theological problems are systemic
8. rene girardinsights and contributions
9. rene girardinsights and contributions- nonviolent theme in the Bible- a narrative of evolution, emergence- deconstruction of atonement theory- uniqueness and universality of Christ- proper apocalypticism- a sense of what has gone wrong and why- a sense of what is real and good, and why
10. A non-violent deity can only signal his existence tomankind by having himself driven out by violence - bydemonstrating that he is not able to establish himself inthe Kingdom of Violence.But this very demonstration is bound to remainambiguous for a very long time, and it is not capable ofachieving a decisive result, since it looks like totalimpotence to those who live under the regime ofviolence. That is why at ﬁrst it can only have some effectunder a guise, deceptive through the admixture of somesacriﬁcial elements, through the surreptitious re-insertionof some violence into the conception of the divine.(219-220)
11. Behaving in a truly divine manner, on an earth still in theclutches of violence, means not dominating humans, notoverwhelming them with supernatural power; it means notterrifying and astonishing them in turn, through the sufferingsand blessings on can confer; it means not creating differencebetween doubles and not taking part in their disputes. ‘Godis no respecter of persons.’ He makes no distinctionbetween ‘Greeks and Jews, men and women, etc.’ This canlook like complete indifference and can lead to theconclusion that the all-powerful does not exist, so long as histranscendence keeps him inﬁnitely far from us and ourviolent undertakings. But the same characteristics arerevealed as a heroic and perfect love once thistranscendence becomes incarnate in a human being andwalks among men, to teach them about the true God and todraw them closer to Him. (234)
12. There is no privileged stance from which absolute truthcan be discovered... That is why the Word that states itselfto be absolutely true never speaks except from theposition of a victim in the process of being expelled....[F]or two thousand years this Word has beenmisunderstood, despite the enormous amount of publicityit has received. (435)
13. ... this sacriﬁcial concept of divinity must ‘die,’ and with itthe whole apparatus of historical Christianity, for theGospels to be able to rise again in our midst, not lookinglike a corpse that we have exhumed, but revealed as thenewest, ﬁnest, liveliest and truest thing that we have everset eyes upon. (235-236)
14. Historical Christianity covers the texts with a veil ofsacriﬁce. Or, to change the metaphor, it immolates them inthe (albeit splendid) tomb of Western culture. (249)But the process requires an almost limitless patience:many centuries must elapse before the subversive andshattering truth contained in the Gospels can beunderstood world-wide. (252)
15. The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?” He replied, “The knowledge of thesecrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them... This is why I speak to them in parables:
16. Though seeing, they do not see.Though hearing, they do not hear or understand. (Matthew 13:10 ff)
17. Something is on the way out and something else is painfully being born. It is as if something were crumbling, decaying, and exhausting itself, while something else, still indistinct, were arising from the rubble.... We are in a phase when one age is succeeding another, when everything is possible. Vaclav Havel, “The New Measure of Man”
18. a new kind ofchristianity:ten questions thatare transforming thefaith
19. What are the questions?1. The narrative question: What is the shape of thebiblical narrative? Storyline, plotline?2. The authority question: What is the Bible, andwhat is it for? How does it have authority?3. The God question: Is God violent? Why doesGod seem so violent and genocidal in so manybible passages?
20. 4. The Jesus Question: Who is Jesus, andwhy does he matter?5. The Gospel Question: What is the gospel- a message of evacuation ortransformation? Exclusion or inclusion?
21. 6. The church question: What do wedo about the church?7. The sex question: Can we dealwith issues of sexuality withoutfighting and dividing?8. The future question: Can we find amore hopeful vision of the future?
22. 9. The pluralism question: Howshould we relate to people of otherfaiths?10. The next step question: How canwe pursue this quest in humility,love, and peace?
23. a new kind of christianity
24. Question 1:What is the shape of thebiblical narrative? (A pre-critical question)
25. Eden Heaven Fall Salvation History/ The world Hell
26. Platonic Ideal Platonic Ideal Fall Atonement, puriﬁcation IntoAristotelian Aristotelian Real Real Hades
27. Pax Romana Pax Romana Civilization, Rebellion development, into colonialism barbarism Barbarian/ assimilation pagan world Destruction, defeat
28. If love and violence are incompatible, the deﬁnition of theLogos must take this into account. The difference betweenthe Greek Logos and the Johannine Logos must be anobvious one, which gets concealed only in the tortuouscomplications of a type of thought that never succeeds inridding itself of its own violence. (270)
29. Heidegger is absolutely right to state that there has neverbeen any thought in the West but Greek thought, evenwhen the labels were Christian. Christianity has no specialexistence in the domain of thought. Continuity with theGreek Logos has never been interrupted... everything isGreek and nothing is Christian. (273)
30. By cultural Platonism we mean the unexamined convictionthat human institutions have been and are what they arefor all eternity, that they have little need to evolve andnone whatsoever to be engendered.... It is quite evident how a universal Platonism manages toobscure any phenomena that contradict it. (TH 59)
31. To what degree is orthodoxy the version of the faith that has proved most usefulin supporting the apparatus of western civilization: empire/colonialism tyranny/domination rule by elites mystiﬁcation and co-option environmental exploitation?
32. How haveour cherished doctrines been (ab)used in the cause of violence?
33. Is there an alternative/subversiveunderstanding of thebiblical narrative?
34. sdrawkcab gnidaerRick Warren, Billy Graham, Charles Finney, John Wesley (or Calvin), Luther,Aquinas, Augustine, Paul, Jesusreading forwardsAdam, Abraham, Moses, David, Isaiah, John the Baptist, Jesus
35. Exodus: Liberation & Formation
36. Exodus: Liberation & FormationGenesis: Creation and Reconciliation
37. Isaiah: Peaceable Kingdom - Justice and Mercy Exodus: Liberation & FormationGenesis: Creation and Reconciliation
38. Isaiah: Peaceable Kingdom - Justice and Mercy Exodus: Liberation & Formation Genesis: Creation and ReconciliationNot a “totalizing metanarrative” - an us-them story thatlegitimates domination and puriﬁcation (scapegoating). But a “multi-narrative” that creates a story-space (not a story- line) in which a million good stories can emerge.
39. G ce r e Isaiah: Peaceable Kingdom - Justice andn Mercye as ti is o n Exodus: Liberation & Formation
40. cG DESTRUCTION (by competitivee r e desire) Peaceable Kingdom - Justice and Isaiah:n Mercye a VIOLENCE (bys t mimetic rivalry)i i os DOMINATION (by n ritual and prohibition) Exodus: Liberation & Formation
41. c Salvation (by creative desire -G r your will be done)e e Isaiah: Peaceable Kingdom - Justice andn Mercye a Reconciliation (bys t positive mimesis - thei i way) os Liberation (by service n and self-giving) Exodus: Liberation & Formation
42. Salvation ...
43. Salvation ... from God?
44. Salvation ... from God? Salvation ... from our sins?(our cycles of violence - as victims or perpetrators)
45. Jesus died “for our sins.”
46. Jesus died “for our sins.” As a payment? As a substitute?
47. Jesus died “for our sins.” As a payment? As a substitute?I took an aspirin “for my headache.”I exercise “for my heart.”
48. The Gospels only speak of sacriﬁces in order to rejectthem and deny them any validity. Jesus counters theritualism of the Pharisees with an anti-sacriﬁcial quotationfrom Hosea: “Go and learn what this means, ‘I desiremercy, and not sacriﬁce’” (Matthew 9:13).There is nothing in the Gospels to suggest that the deathof Jesus is a sacriﬁce, whatever deﬁnition (expiation,substitution, etc.) we may give for sacriﬁce. At no point inthe Gospels is the death of Jesus dﬁned as a sacriﬁce....Certainly the Passion is presented to us in the Gospels asan act that brings salvation to humanity. But it is in no waypresented as a sacriﬁce. (181)
49. Our great need: A better version of the biblical story ... Good news of thecommonwealth, new society, new economy, new family, sacred ecosystem of God
50. Ivan Illich (Austrian former priest, philosopher, social critic, 1926-2002)
51. Neither revolution nor reformationcan ultimately change a society,rather you must tell a new powerfultale, one so persuasive that it sweepsaway the old myths and becomes thepreferred story …
52. … one so inclusive that it gathers all thebits of our past and our present into acoherent whole, one that even shinessome light into the future so that we cantake the next step…. If you want tochange a society, then you have to tell analternative story. - attributed to Ivan Illich (Austrian former priest, philosopher, social critic, 1926-2002)
53. How can that story be ... articulated in sermons and books celebrated in creeds and confessions rooted in songs and prayersembodied in mission and prophetic action explored in art and research shared with everyone everywhere? This is our task.
54. a new kind of christianity
55. What are the questions?1. The narrative question: What is the shape of thebiblical narrative? Storyline, plotline?2. The authority question: What is the Bible, andwhat is it for? How does it have authority?3. The God question: Is God violent? Why doesGod seem so violent and genocidal in so manybible passages?
56. 4. The Jesus Question: Who is Jesus, andwhy does he matter?5. The Gospel Question: What is the gospel- a message of evacuation ortransformation? Exclusion or inclusion?
57. 6. The church question: What do wedo about the church?7. The sex question: Can we dealwith issues of sexuality withoutfighting and dividing?8. The future question: Can we find amore hopeful vision of the future?
58. 9. The pluralism question: Howshould we relate to people of otherfaiths?10. The next step question: How canwe pursue this quest in humility,love, and peace?
59. Caught between somethingreal ... and something wrong.
60. A space with four centers
61. Order-Preserving Order-Uncovering Center Center Order-Subverting Center Soul-(Trans)forming Center
72. ... the Gospels [must] rise again in ourmidst, not looking like a corpse thatwe have exhumed, but revealed as thenewest, ﬁnest, liveliest and truest thingthat we have ever set eyes upon.(235-236)
73. St. PaulWhen I was a child, I spoke and thoughtand reasoned like a child, But when I became an adult, I gave up childish ways.For now we see in a mirror dimly, But then face to face.Now I know in part; then I shallunderstand fully, Even as I have been fully understood.
74. So faith, hope, and love abide, thesethree; But the greatest of these is love.I will show you the most excellentway. Follow the way of love.Amen.