Podcast #265 from http://www.bengreenfieldfitness.com/2013/12/265-can-youhave-too-much-muscle-do-you-really-need-an-appendix-how-to-lucid-dream/
Introduction: In today’s episode of the Ben Greenfield fitness podcast: Is Joint
Cracking Dangerous, the Pros And Cons Of Too Much Muscle, Do We
Really Need An Appendix (And What To Do If Your Appendix Gets
Removed), Natural Remedies For Eye Circles, and Why Cyclists Don’t
Well, I think both of us are out of our normal surroundings.
I think both of us are mama’s boys dude from what I can gather. I’m
standing in my mom’s living room right now with my mic and a
recording equipment pulled up here and you’re also on your mom’s
I’m actually at my mum’s.
Your mum’s as they say in Canada.
That’s a.... there’s a good cultural difference right there for you. When
you say mom, mom, mum. But I’m at my mum’s. I’m standing in the
kitchen mere feet from a turkey that’s roasting.
Oh wow. That’s fantastic.
I can actually touch it but I won’t.
I do not want to think about food, talk about food. I ate so much food
yesterday including bacon-wrapped asparagus, turkey....
Prime rib, sausages, it was nuts. This morning I’m living on kale and
avocados. I think I’ll live on those the whole day. And this....
What’s wrong with that? It sounds good.
This is interesting. Have you heard about this, this holiday syndrome?
I don’t even know if we mentioned the word recording in this podcast
the day after Christmas.
Yeah, it’s wrestling day.
That’s right, it’s wrestling day.
Boxing. Boxing day.
Boxing day. I wouldn’t. No.
I have heard about that mostly because my girlfriend’s an ER nurse so
I hear all about the chest pain presenting itself on Christmas day.
Yeah. And the underlying phenomenon you know, or the idea behind
the phenomenon is something that’s kinda, it’s multi-factorial but it’s
really interesting. I wasn’t even aware of this until recently that your
risk of dying from a heart attack or even like a non-heart attack
related death goes up like by 5% between Christmas and New Year’s.
It doesn’t surprise me.
And there’s a bunch of factors just like increased emotional stress,
less people staff in like the hospital or healthcare facilities, increased
intake of salt, caffeine, alcohol, along with less sleep typically.
Sometimes colder weather which leads to like vasoconstriction and
increased vascular resistance. Less day light, less sun exposure, and
then there’s even this postponement of death idea, the idea that folks
want to wait after they see their loved ones before they kinda die and
pass away quietly until after Christmas and New Year’s so it’s kinda
Well that’s a big part of what my girlfriend’s noticed in the ER is like
Christmas Eve is quite quiet but Christmas Day especially later in the
day when the presents are opened, everybody’s had their meals and
everything’s had their sort of winding down a little bit, that’s when
the people who have been having chest pain for a good 12, 16 hours
finally decide to go to the hospital or they just go and lay down
somewhere quiet and that’s not the right decision.
Choose the hospital, not the laying down somewhere quiet by
Yea, so for any of our listeners, if your chest starts to hurt the next few
days, put down the eggnog and the brandy and find your local staffed
I don’t think our listeners would drop dead of heart attacks though,
Maybe during an ultra marathon but not on a couch.
That’s right, with a glass and an eggnog.
bengreenfieldfitness.com/265 is the place to go always, well not
always 265 but this week you will go there to find these awesome
That’s right and I have an article, that’s a fantastic article that came
out, I’ll link to it in the show notes but it’s on Nutrition Lessons of
2013 and the title of the article is “Cheese and Fat are Good and Gut
Bacteria Matters A Lot”. This article, it’s really interesting. It goes into
the recent meta analysis that was publishes in Obesity Reviews and it
talks about how this whole low-fat high carb approach in making
room for like fish, poultry, meat, eggs, cheese, nuts, seeds, avocados,
olive oil, coconut oil, butter, all these kind of stuff is not only showing
to be just as good for weight loss but also like professional athletes
now like the Los Angeles Lakers have now switched to like an official
like low-carb high fat diet.
So I thought that was really interesting. She also hits on the size of....
Wait, what was the name of the publication?
The name of the publication that this was in was the National Post
but Obesity was where that study appeared. I’ll link to this article for
folks who wanna read the article ‘cause it’s really good. She talks
about how over 2013, we kinda proved this whole calories in-calories
out approach is not necessarily the only thing that you look at and she
gets into everything from inflammation like your hsc and p-levels to
insulin resistance like your body’s inability to use insulin to control
blood sugar to even like gut bacteria and bacterial status kinda having
an influence on the whole calories in-calories out equation and I
actually think another one that’s kinda good add-in is this idea that
cooking food and processing food actually increases the amount of
net usable calories in that food and this is something, I’m not saying
everybody should become a raw foodist for example if they wanna
limit their propensity for weight gain but it is interesting even by
cooking food we increase the number of calories that are available on
food so it’s not just about looking at the label or looking at how many
calories happen to be in something using you know nutritiondata.com
or whatever but also looking at the hormonal inflammatory and gut
bacteria effect of....
So we can think of the year 2013 as being the year that it got even
That’s right. That’s right. Because in previous years, it’s only gotten
simpler. Another interesting thing that she hit on was that dairy fats
from things like cheeses have been shown to have an inverse
correlation with cardiac risk factors which is kinda interesting
because sometimes we associate cheese with high fat yogurt, high fat
dairy, with heart disease but it is in fact the case that fats and a good
quality cheese you know, preferably from like an organic dairy source
or like a higher fat yogurt not only makes you feel fuller faster but can
kinda offer some pretty cool health benefits above and beyond just
damn tastiness so.
I wonder how long that will take to get into sort of the colloquial
relationship to food ‘cause you always see people just holding up like
a brick of cheese saying something like, “oh, heart attack on a
platter!” and stuff like that. I wonder.....
I think about the time they figure out how to put like organic full-fat
dairy into a can of cheez whiz. That will probably about the point
where it hits mainstream. One other thing she hits on in this article
was this idea that we’ve really found out you know, I touched on this a
little bit but that fermented foods are super duper helpful and I think
we’re gonna dig into this when we talk in a little bit about the, I think
we have a listener calling about the appendix and I wanted to
mention fermented foods. Anyways though, interesting article. We’ll
link to that one over at bengreenfieldfitness.com/265 and another
thing that I posted....
Can you hear turkey sizzling in the background?
I can’t. Not on my....
You may have heard my little sister walking out the door to head out
to her cross-fit. She’s on a cross-fit kick right now which I think is
awesome. So another thing that I tweeted was my lucid dreaming
formula which I stumbled upon by accident. I actually had some rapid
gut issues emerged when I had the bacterial infection from swimming
in a waste-water lagoon over in Thailand a few weeks ago and I asked
my naturopathic doc and he’s like, “well, you know, if you’re tummy’s
kinda bugging you over the night,” and it was, it was keeping me up,
he’s like, “and you don’t wanna take valium and you know, benadril
or one of these drugs that kinda puts a hit on your liver, you could try
melatonin.” And he told me that he prescribes about 20-25
milligrams of melatonin at night to his cancer patients that actually
kind of reduce pain and allow them to sleep without using a
pharmaceutical. So I figured I try it. Now 5HTP and L-tyrosine are
two neurotransmitter precursors that have been, you find them things
like mood stabilizers, you’ll find them in neurotropics like Alpha
Brain for example. Their precursors for things like serotonin,
dopamine, those are 2 of the biggies in some of your adrenalines, your
neuroadrenalines specifically when it comes to l-tyrosine so you
combine the nueroadrenaline and dopamine precursors from ltyrosine which is amino acid with what you’re gonna get from 5HTP
which is more of a serotonin precursor and that’s something a lot of
people have used up and fall asleep.
In the past I found that it helps to enhance dreaming a little bit. Well
I tried this melatonin and had these extremely realistic dreams at this
20-25 gram melatonin dose and....
Yeah. Yup, exactly. Then, what I did was, I decided that I might as
well guinea pig myself and see what happens when you mix it with
5HTP and l-tyrosine. About 300 milligrams of 5HTP with about 3000
milligrams of l-tyrosine. Now for stabilizing your mood, that’s
typically what you do is a 10-1 ratio of l-tyrosine to 5HTP so I put
together high dose melatonin with 5HTP and l-tyrosine and then I
basically took this..By the way, with melatonin did I say grams or
Yeah. Milligrams, sorry.
Ah, that’s why I was like “25 grams?”
Yeah. Anyways though, extremely realistic lucid dreaming in which I
felt like I actually had control over the dreams so I dug into this and it
turns out that researches that had been done on melatonin especially
with high doses of melatonin up to 50 milligrams of melatonin not
only have dramatically increased rapid-eye movement sleep time and
dream activity in people in sleep labs but it’s also been shown to cause
this significant increase in vivid lucid dreaming. Now melatonin is a
hormone. I think that it’s something that you should be careful
experimenting with but if you’re just kinda curious what it feels like to
get like lucid, vivid dreams, you could try out the same thing that I did
in my little experiment. Go high dose melatonin, mix it with 5HTP
and l-tyrosine. Spin a few dials in your brain and it’s kinda interesting
so there you have it.
Sounds kind of fun but a little bit scary too.
It was very, you know, it was kinda similar to you know, if you’re
gonna go out and see what like Ayahuasca or shrooms or something
like that did to your body, in a safe controlled environment of course,
but this is probably a little bit less potentially risky than something
like that so....
Very interesting. And whatever you think about as you’re going to bed
is what you end up dreaming about ‘cause I’ve experimented with it 3
times now and like dwelt on different things and found that whatever
it is that I’m thinking about or whatever movie it is that I might have
watched before I go to bed, it’s exactly what I dream about and
unfortunately, I tried this a couple of night ago after watching World
War Z, the zombie movie and that was a rough night of sleep.
That. I was just thinking if I tried that, like last night I would have had
angry bird dreams.
Yeah. You still sleep deep but it’s a little bit more disturbing so....
And then the last thing I wanted to mention was that I was reading in
the National Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research the other
day about the effect of kid’s somatotypes or body types on their ability
to perform specific activities. What they found was that, they did
what’s called the heath-carter method of finding out what kids’ body
types were. Now the heath-carter method is the same method where I
derived the questionnaire, the same method that I used to create the
questionnaire in my book “Get Fit Guy’s Guide to Achieving Your
Ideal Body” and this is a book that I wrote for adults to figure out if
you’re an ectomorph, mesomorph or endomorph, the 3 different main
body types and in that particular book there’s actually a 4th kinda
mixed body type and then develop a customized exercise and
nutrition program based on your body type so I always kinda, my ears
perk up when I see body typing articles just based off that book and
this one looked at kids and found out that sure enough, kids that are
endomorphic have a lower likelihood of vertical jump height less like
kids who are kinda more like apple or even like kinda pear shaped.
Kids with mesomorphic are better at sprint performance, kids who
are ectomorphic are better at aerobic fitness games but these are
really significant so one of the things that you could do is you can use
the heath-carter method which you could google or you could use the
calculators or the book that I have over at getfitguy.com. You could
figure out what body type your child is and actually kinda arrange
their, the sports that you put them in or the potential for success on
certain activities based off of their body type. So if you wanna go all
Chinese/Russian Olympic squad on them and inject them into the
correct sport, this is kind of an interesting article so we’ll link to that
one in the show notes and also to the achieving your ideal body shape
book in the show notes as well over at bengreenfieldfitness.com/265
so those are this week’s news flashes.
So entheos.com. I haven’t actually heard of this before but you’re
doing a big class there tomorrow right?
Yeah, for anybody who is not busy over the holidays and has nothing
better to do, if you happen to be tuning into this podcast on Thursday
which is the day this podcast comes out, well tomorrow, 2PM Pacific,
5PM Eastern, I’ll be teaching a class called How to Rev the Human
Machine: Recover, Elevate, and Vitalize. And in this class I’m going to
teach you everything that you need to know not only to detox your
body and sleep better and shut down inflammation and distress,
kinda get your new year started off with a bang but it’s a class series
that’s actually gonna go on and actually have several parts during
2014. You can watch replays, you can attend the class live for free, I
think to get replays all year long is like 7 or 8 bucks or something like
that and it’s kinda cool. It’s like this online class/learning platform
and I’m pretty stoked about it so we’ll put a link in the show notes but
yeah, if you wanna attend live, it’s gonna be on Friday, the 27th of
December at 2PM and you can always go to the show notes for this
episode and you can if you’re listening in this after the fact and if you
link over you can watch the replay so....
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I guess the idea would be that you could listen to it again and again
and or you should listen to it again and again, do it again and again so
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Hi guys, I love the podcast. Hey, it’s Aaron here from Ireland. My
wrists and fingers click and also my knees, ankles, and my back a
little bit, and just like your average person’s fingers would like sort of
crack. Is this something to be worried about and is there any
supplements or dietary considerations that I could take to help it? Are
there any long-term effects that I should also be worried about?
Thanks for your help and look forward to hearing your response.
Now you hear a lot talk about this like people always saying, “don’t
crack your knuckles, you’re gonna get arthritis and stop cracking your
back, it’s gonna get loose and kick popping out and don’t crack your
neck you’re gonna have a stroke.” So what is the truth around this?
Well first of all, I would have to say that you gotta make sure that you
have your Irish coffee in the morning and I actually had some of that
on Christmas day.
I’m gonna start removing anybody with an accent so this doesn’t
happen. I’m sorry everybody.
And be sure to have your lucky charms every morning for breakfast.
Aaron you have my permission to punch Ben next time you are near
You know it’s funny actually I have this leprechaun pants, they’re like
leprechaun PJ’s and I was literally wearing my leprechaun yesterday
and my father-in-law made me an Irish coffee for breakfast which is
like a spiked coffee so there you go, this is right up my wavelength
You are pretty much living the Irish life that’s right there.
Yeah, only thing that was missing was a hegges or whatever they call
That’s offended all out Irish listeners. So cracking and popping and
clicking. Well the theory on how joints pop and crack is this idea
behind cavitation and what that means is when your joint is cracked,
the volume within your joint capsule gets increased when that joint
capsule is stretched and when that occurs, you get pressured
dropping inside the synovial fluid which is like the lubricating fluid
for your joints. When that happens, these tiny amounts of air that are
dissolved within your synovial fluid come together and they form
bubbles so all this air and synovial fluid forms one bubble, that
bubble collapses and that causes the popping or cracking sound as the
joint is stretched and these bubbles pop.
In turn, let’s just like just for simplicity think of a knuckle. So I’m
pulling on, my index finger pulling it away from my body away from
my wrist. So that’s the stretching motion that injects the air or the
whatever into the bubble?
Yup. Exactly. Same thing.
And also when I let go or manipulate it all, that’s what pops the
Exactly. Exactly. Now, there have been some studies that suggest that
knuckle cracking can cause joint swelling, it can cause grip strength
loss. Now those studies are somewhat small and I wouldn’t
necessarily conclude that you’re destroying your joints if you’re
cracking them and popping them a lot, pulling on joints that type of
thing. But it is kind of interesting especially when you look at the grip
strength loss because that’s just that there may actually be a little bit
of either loss of synovial fluid or potentially some type of cartilage
damage that’s occurring when you’re doing lots of cracking and
popping so I personally play it safe. I don’t do a lot of neck popping
and a lot of back popping, a lot of joint popping, that type of thing,
like manual manipulation of pop. So I’d be careful as far as that goes
even though the researches is kinda inconclusive on this stuff and but
that’s called cavitation when you crack or pop a joint like that and
there’s also clicking which a lot of people get in their knees for
example. That’s the most popular place where you’ll hear a clicking
noise. Typically clicking is due to a muscular imbalance so for
example, with your knee, your femur and your tibia and your fibula
come together to form this area where your kneecap sits and if your
hamstring is very tight, that’s typically one of the issues, if your quads
are very weak, what happens is the patella or the kneecap doesn’t
glide in the correct manner and it tends to click on the surface of the
femur or on the surface of the tibia or the fibula and that’s the
So let’s say you’re doing like a deep squat like you’re just standing and
you do a deep squat and your knee pops, that’s actually the bone on
It’s not necessarily bone on bone, sometimes it can be ligament on
bone, sometimes it can be the patella sliding over some of the other
knee ligaments but ultimately that clicking is often associated with
the muscular imbalance. A lot of times tight hamstrings, weak quads.
You’ll hear this sometimes when you’re just like lying on the ground,
when you’re doing a bicycle crunch like pushing a leg out away from
you like riding a bike and you feel stuff clicking and popping,
sometimes it can indicate that there is an actual miniscule tear or that
there’s what’s called a plica which is kind of a folding of part of the
synovial lining in the knee.
That stuff would have to be looked into a little bit more deeply via
something like an MRI but if you get a lot of clicking and it’s not
accompanied by loss of function per se or a lot of pain, it can just be a
clue that there might be some muscular imbalance going on. So as far
as clicking goes, I most often see it in the knee and that’s usually the
issue with that. Now snapping, snapping is typically something you
get in the hips. Sometimes the IT bands snaps a little bit, that’s
usually super tight hip flexors. If your hip snaps, one of the best
things you can do is take a foam roller to kinda like your soass and hip
flexor area in the front of your leg, do lots of lunging, hip type of
stretches and then avoid long periods of time in a seated position. So
if you’re body tends to be one of those bodies that snaps and clicks
and pops, I would basically consider making sure that you’re taking
care of your synovial fluid, not only by being sure not to excessively
crack joints but by also by ensuring that you have adequate intake of
healthy fats. So like omega-3 fish oil. Super important when it comes
to that stuff. Omega-3 fatty acid intake from olive oil, another really
good source. Making sure that you address any muscular imbalances,
specifically stretching your hamstrings, strengthening your quads, if
it tends to be a knee clicking issue and then making sure your hip
flexors are taken care of. Soft tissue in your hip flexors via foam
rolling and also lunging hip flexor stretches and not spending a lot of
time sitting and if you’re very noisy person from a biomechanical
standpoint, that’s where I’d start.
Hi Ben and Brock, here Horacio from Chile. This question jumped to
my head when you announced the mass gain protocol that you will
both apply soon. I ask this question based on the possibility that is
realistic to achieve a similar strength gain with weight training but
without growing the big muscles, maybe like crossfit style. Could you
please explain if there’s any benefit of bulking up when you practice
or doing sports or the reason is mainly looking good on the beach?
What are the pros and cons of having a big muscle? Can you achieve
benefits as less injury possibilities, maybe less cramps, more
endurance, more power, but what about the muscle efficiency on
calorie consumption? What about the extra weight you have when
you race? Cheers. Thank you. Bye bye. Good job.
We’ve got a lot of ethnic listeners, a lot of accented listeners.
Oh it’s not over yet. Wait ‘til we get a couple more questions in. We’ve
got some more.
Global audience. I love it. Yeah.
We are international.
Well I used to be a body builder and I’ve lost a lot of weight. I’ve lost
about 30 pounds of muscle. I’m now a skinny Ironman triathlete and
I’ve kinda gone through that full spectrum of having a lot of muscle
and also not having a lot of muscle. Now, there are some definite
benefits to muscle. Sarcopenia, which is that gradual loss of muscle as
you age is definitely associated with a drop in bone density and what a
lot of people don’t realize is that skeletal muscle is the body’s larges
endocrine organ meaning like when you look at the hypothalamus
and the adrenal glands and all of these parts of your endocrine
system, muscle outshines all that stuff in terms of its ability to
produce again like this masculine growth hormone and it’s also why
loss of muscle is associated with a pretty significant drop in
testosterone, drop in growth hormone, drop in a lot of these anabolic
hormones. It’s kind of a question of which came first, the chicken or
the egg but ultimately, there are benefits from kind of like a like an
endocrine/hormonal standpoint to maintaining muscle. From an
energetic standpoint, muscles stores amino acids, muscle is a primary
storage for glycogen, you know a little bit is stored in your liver, most
of it is stored in muscles so when you’re looking at for example amino
acids being neurotransmitter precursors or glycogen being something
that helps you during for example like explosive efforts at the gym
that type of thing. Muscle definitely comes in handy for those types of
things as well.
On the flipside, there are some studies that have shown for example
that calorie-restricted feeding can slow down aging and there are
molecular mechanisms that have linked calorie restriction and
longevity and someone who’s constantly stuffing their face with
calories to maintain muscle, put on a bunch of muscle, what you see is
what I call red face syndrome is when you go to fitness convention
and there’s a bunch of body builders and big old people walking
around, they’ve got these red puffy faces and wrinkled skin and the
issue is that when you get a lot of insulin, high plasma concentrations
of another hormone called triiodothyronine, and also the increased
metabolism that occurs when you’re consuming a lot of calories for
muscle gain or for mass gain, there’s a lot of what’s called
peroxidation damage which is basically from free radical production
from all these increased metabolic activity.
And so there’s kind of this law of diminishing returns in that you have
to find that sweet spot between carrying enough muscles that you got
adequate hormonal status but not also kinda pushing yourself so high
above your natural weight set point that you produce a lot of free
radical damage so for example, if I eat to my appetite and I follow my
appetite, my weight stabilizes at around 185, 190-ish. So right now I
weigh about 170-175 because I restrict calories and because I’m doing
triathlon, lots of training, but I were to amp back training to a more
sane amount training and eat to appetite, I would stabilize between
185-190 and that would probably kinda be that sweet spot for me and
everybody has their own kinda sweet spot but you can get your own
metabolic rate tested, eat as many calories as your metabolic rates
plus a little bit more on line a lifting day, that type of thing and kind
of approximate where it is that’s good for you but yeah, I mean I
would say that there’s a definite law of diminishing returns when it
comes to muscle gain for sure.
So that’s more of a tipping point I guess.
Yeah, and as Horacio alludes to, there’s some other issues here. For
example, muscle is difficult to carry, it’s difficult to cool. So for
endurance sports, it can definitely come back to bite you and I can tell
you I feel way better competing at 175 than I did at 180 or 185 or 190.
When I get to like 170, I don’t recover as well and I feel really crappy,
my sex drive goes away so you know, you get to that level where your
essential body fat can drop to too low a level and so there’s that.
Injury prevention. This is why you see for example Ironman
triathletes tend to be slightly bigger, slightly bulkier than say their
ITU or short-distance racing counterparts and that’s because you do
need a certain amount of muscle to protect your body from the
pounding, the repetitive pounding especially if that occurs during like
an ultra-endurance type of event. You know, on the flipside, you get
to a certain level of muscles and you can have a higher propensity for
cramping just because you’ve got more muscles there to potentially
cramp. I used to cramp a lot more when I was you know, a high
muscle guy, kinda getting into endurance sports versus now when I
was a lot more sore after I’d compete. I would overheat way more
often so yeah, I mean you gotta find that sweet spot that works for
you so yeah, it’s one of those deals that if you wanna get faster at
endurance sports, you do have to probably give up enough muscle to
where you gonna see potential for increased risk for loss of bone
density, loss of testosterone, loss of growth hormone, that type of
thing. If you put on too much muscle, you’re gonna see decrease
lifespan. So you have to decide what’s your priority and also, kind of
where your natural set point is.
Isn’t there a problem to let’s say you do some serious body building,
you put on a lot of muscle and then maybe you lose interest in that or
you decide that you just wanna slim down. It’s the potential is there to
actually balloon up a little bit if you don’t lose that weight and that
muscle correctly too.
Yeah. Yeah. You know and do you mean more like the skinny-fat
Yeah. So you stop lifting all the weights, you may be cut back your
calories a little bit but you don’t necessarily restrict proteins or do
what you did actually when you started doing triathlon to lose that
muscle in a safe way, instead you get that sort of dowyness.
Yeah. If you did wanna lose muscle, a safe way to do it would be to
slightly exceed the number of calories that you’re taking in with the
number of calories that you’re burning but not necessarily to go out
and do like really catabolic long-fast workouts with low levels of
blood, amino acids in particular. Kind of a better way to do it would
be to restrict calories slightly but then exercise with higher levels of
blood, amino acids, and you could hack that with like branch chain
amino acids, whole amino acids supplements, that type of thing.
Yeah so if you overshoot your healthy weight or you go over that
tipping point you have to be sort of be careful when you’re coming
Hey Ben, my name is John. Love the podcast. I had my appendix
removed when I was 11 or 12 years old and I’m now 34.
I have heard from a lot of people that the appendix was just vestigial,
no longer serves a purpose in modern humans. Recently, I’ve read a
lot more about how the appendix might be more important than what
we once thought and so my question is, given that I’m living without
an appendix, I’ve been without it for over 20 years, what
considerations should I think about in terms of lifestyle? But just
wondering if you had any thoughts as to how my lack of appendix
might affect me and more to the point, what I can do to live optimally
given this state of affairs. That’s all. Again, love the podcast. Thanks.
John’s letting us down into the international fancy accent
That’s right. And the appendix department, apparently.
Yes. He’s lacking an appendix and an accent.
You know the appendix was a, was pretty long thought over this
leftover organ that we’ve somehow evolved to no longer need and
there was never seen enough issue with appendix removal or
appendicitis or appendix removal with appendicitis. There’s definitely
an issue with appendicitis for everybody who’s had it but it’s
It’s not a good thing.
But it’s now believed, based off of a few research studies that have
been done that the appendix is kinda used as a storage shed for the
healthy bacteria that live in your gut and for example, there is one
pretty interesting study that was done in 2011 where they looked at
the risk for clostridium difficile which is kinda a disruption of your
colonic flora and the increase risk of developing clostridium in the
absence of an appendix. There was another study that looked at the
production of the biofilm in the colon or the large intestine and found
that this healthy biofilm and healthy flora that’s supposed to protect
and support colonization by bacteria and the ability of your large
intestine to for example, absorb vitamins and minerals or produce
fatty acids you know, some of the things that colon does, is lost when
you have your appendix removed and so you lose some immune
function and some metabolic function in terms of your ability to
produce fatty acids from fiber so that’s another issue. It’s possible
that on a higher fiber diet, that the appendix again may increase risk
of digestive issues with the lack of an appendix may increase risk of
digestive issues and that again is probably directly tied to the loss of
gut flora and that’s what a lot of the studies kinda found so far, as far
as the ones that have been done on appendix removals. So if you’ve
had your appendix removed, it should go without saying that
probably one of the best things that you can do if you’ve lost kind of
your storage house for good bacteria is to number 1, increase intake of
fermented foods. The problem is that a lot of fermented foods are
high in fiber and you may not do as well on high fiber intake if you
lost your appendix but there are some that are a little bit lower on
fiber. I’ve got an article, I’ll link to it in the show notes at
bengreenfieldfitness.com/265 but it’s an article I did for WellnessFX
last year and it’s called Fermentation - It’s What’s For Dinner and it’s
a pretty comprehensive article on all the different fermented foods
that are out there that you could eat. Interestingly a lot of people
don’t realize this, even chocolate is a technically a fermented food
What can chocolate do?
Exactly. But there are some other like lower fiber fermented foods
unlike like kimchi or sauerkraut for example like a good natural
yogurt. Poi for example is a fermented food. Kombucha or kefir would
also be things that you could include.
Kafir as they say in Canada. Mum mom, kefir kafir. But yeah, I’ll
include that. I’ll link to that in the show notes. I’ll even include a nice
little easy homemade recipe for Kafir so that would be one thing...
It sure sounds like a sneeze the way you say it. Kafir.
Bless you. Good therapeutic grade probiotic. I’m a huge fan of the
Caprobiotics brand for this, that’s the one I swear by, it’s the one that
most of my clients use. It’s, it originates from a goat-based source. A
lot of people would tend to have some allergenic issues with some
probiotics due just some fine with this one but caprobiotics plus gives
you over 30 billion bacteria....
And that’s pretty high. Most of the probiotics that you get are like
even the really good ones are gonna be like 10-15 so caprobiotics plus,
if you eat 2 capsules you’re getting 60 billion plus and it also....
I’m actually looking at the one on my Mum’s counter and it’s 50
Yeah. Yeah and the caprobiotics is packaged up with prebiotics which
are essentially the food for probiotics so it’s pretty much got
everything that you need in there.
The only thing it doesn’t have in it that I’m a little disappointed in is a
strain of bacteria called saccharomyces boulardii which is....
I thought you were gonna say chocolate.
It doesn’t have chocolate in it.
Saccharomyces is something that a lot of people tend to get knocked
out when they’ve been on the antibiotic regimen so a lot of times
people who have been on antibiotics, I’ll tell them go take
caprobiotics but also go use like you know, get the designs for health
saccharomyces boulardii and add that in you know, keep that stuff
cold in the refrigerator but you know, you do a therapeutic dose of
probiotics like for something like appendix removal would be like you
do 5 per day so you’re getting over a hundred billion good bacterial
strains per day and then also add in like a couple capsules of like a
saccharomyces boulardii. It’s abbreviated s-boulardii as well.
Boulardii. Eat it in that 1-2 combo in and that’s something that would
really help out as well so that’s some of the considerations when it
comes to the appendix that I would think about. I would come at it at
a bacterial standpoint.
The appendix, no longer vestigial. Coming soon to a theater near you.
Hi it’s Kate. I live in Melbourne, Australia and my question is about
waking up feeling really tired with really heavy dark puffy circles
under my eyes. I sleep well, I have a really good diet. I’m active and
mostly my health is really good. But I have become really conscious
over the last few months about these dark circles which I feel make
me look old and tired and I’m wondering whether there could be any
hormonal or medical or nutritional ways and for these circles despite
the fact that otherwise I generally feel pretty good. Thanks. I really
enjoy your podcast and I really look forward to your response.
You know I’ve been noticing and I’m not sure if this is Kate’s problem
too but as I get older, the more the circles linger.
Yeah. Yeah. And dark eye circles are naturally gonna get bigger and
everybody’s gonna have more of an issue with them as they get older
just because we lose some of the skin, some of the fat pad under the
eyes becomes thinner that causes a lot of the blood vessels to become
more noticeable under the eyes and that gives the appearance of dark
circles. So the skin under the eyes, you know, it’s thin and delicate to
start with and that’s just going to increase with age but there are
certain things that can cause those blood vessels to become even more
of an issue. Fluid retention is one big one so you tend to see fluid
retention in folks who either have thyroid issues or cortisol issues or
both. You know, pretty simple test I think I’ve talked about before if
you wanna just do a quick at home test would be to take your body
temperature, either your auxiliary or your oral body temperature over
several days and if it’s consistently low, you know, if you’re scoring in
like the 96’s, 97’s or even dropping down to the 95’s, a lot of times
that could just be a clue that you might have a low thyroid. You can
also go out and get like a TSH, T3, T4 blood panel but temperature
can give you a decent idea, I mean, qualitative variables, you know,
just always cold, that type of thing. There’s a, like a, there’s a really
book out there called “Why Isn’t My Thyroid Working” or something
like that and it’s just chockfull of really interesting information about
So is the opposite true then? Just to sort of go down that path. Like if
you’re warm all the time could that be a hyperactive thyroid?
Warm all the time, inability to gain weight, all that stuff could
indicate hyperthyroidism but I just went into that so much last then
than hypothyroid issues. If you’re temperature is jumping around a
while, or you’re seeing like increases or fluctuations of about 0.3,
severe always at 96 and you’re jumping around and you’re you know,
98.2, 99, you’re all over the place, a lot of times that’s more adrenal
gland, cortisol issues. A lot of times you tend to see the 2 go hand-inhand like consistently low body temp combined with fluctuations in
body temp so either way, cortisol and thyroid issues can be one thing.
Biggest thing you can do for those is to take care of your adrenal
glands and take care of especially the electrolyte balance in your
kidneys. Aldosterone is one of the hormones that tend to become
depleted with high cortisol and adrenal fatigue. You can fix up
something like that by making sure that you’re on like a good like
trace mineral or sea salt kinda supplement. I really like sea salt like
Aztec sea salt or Himalayan sea salt.
I really like a good Chinese adaptogenic herb complex. I think it’s no
secret to a regular podcast listener that I use a Chinese adaptogenic
herb everyday. I swear by it. I use one called TianChi and it is a mix of
pretty much every kinda like yin and yang stabilizer on the face of the
planet in one little packet. There’s about 40 pounds worth of
adaptogenic herbs. So that’d be one thing that you can do. Lack of
sleep and stress of course are big issues and I don’t think that comes
as a surprise to anybody who looks in the mirror after not sleeping
enough or being stressed out and you know, that’s just a matter of you
know, going back and checking out the articles at
bengreenfieldfitness.com. Go there and do a search on stress, go there
and do a search on sleep. I’ve written all the articles you’d ever need
to control both those factors. Dehydration simple and stupid but just
not drinking enough water can be a big issue when it comes to dark
circles under the eyes. Iron deficiency. More commonly you tend to
see this one in women just because of the blood loss but especially if
your vegan or you’re vegetarian and you have dark circles under your
eyes, that can be a pretty good sign of iron deficiency. So that’s
another one to think about or look into. Sometimes it goes hand-inhand again with the cortisol and the thyroid issues and so you gotta
you know, control stress, get adequate sleep, take care of your
thyroid, take care of your cortisol, and then also take on the iron so
you might have to get on the like a high intake of rhenium based iron
with a little bit of vitamin c to increase absorption. Make sure you’re
getting your non- rhenium based iron sources from like kale and
bokchoy and dark leafies and mustard greens. You know, getting it on
steak, that type of thing.
That’s right. Your dark leafies. So speaking of dark leafies, there are
home remedies that you can use too to decrease dark circles under the
eyes. Cucumber slices, those actually work. You may laugh at them
when you see them in the movies or in cartoons but cool....
I thought that was a total cliché.
Nope. Cool cucumber slices over closed eyes for about 15 minutes can
work wonders. That’s something easy to do like when you’re
travelling, you can usually get your hands on a cucumber. Tea bags
also work. Not herbal tea bags ‘cause they’re tannings and the black
tea are the healthy ingredient that helps out with the swelling
underneath the eyes so you can just get like earl grey for example and
you put a plain cool earl grey tea bag over closed eyes in the same way
you would do cool cucumber slices.
I wanna make a terrible joke right now. But I won’t.
I don’t wanna know. The other thing that you can look into.... 2 other
things. The first would be coffee. Has really good anti-wrinkle
properties, it’s also great for puffy eyes. Now, I’m not talking about
drinking it, I’m talking about a coffee-infused lotion or a coffee-based
oil like an essential oil that you mix with a lotion that you already
have underneath your eyes. I’ll put a link in the show notes if you’re
one of those total DIY people....
So if you’re one of those total DIY people and you wanna make your
own natural coffee under-eye cream, there is a mix that you can use
that’s essentially a coffee essential oil that’s mixed with some of the
usuals you’d find in home lotions like shea butter and cocoa butter
and there’s a little bit of vitamin e in there. Really good recipe for
lotion you could make at home. Most lotions at home follow the usual
recipe and melt these oils together, you mix in the essential oils and
you put it in like a mason jar so that’s one option. The other option is
you just get a natural safe lotion that you’re already using so
preferably one that’s you know, low on parabins, low on fragrances,
low on thalates, low on a lot of these artificial compounds, like a good
natural lotion, like a healthy lotion and there’s a bunch listed over at
the Ben Recommends page at bengreenfieldfitness.com and you just
get some coffee essential oil. I like the website mountainroseherbs for
good, quality, organic, essential oils. You mix that in there, you can
mix about 20 drops or so in with your lotion and that is all of a
sudden, a coffee infused oil or a coffee infused lotion that you can use
underneath your eyes and that can really help out as well with the
dark eyes plus, even though there’s no caffeine in the actual coffee
essential oil, just the smell of it might wake you up a little bit. So there
you go. You might just save yourself the price of a mocha. The final
thing you should think about and this is more of coming at it from a
Chinese herbal standpoint is that the kidneys, a lot of times, are
linked to the eyes and the appearance of the eyes in Chinese
medicine. And they call this a kidney yang deficiency. When you show
black eyes or black circles underneath your eyes. And so one of the
things that you can do is take foods that can help with kidney yang
So some of the things they’ll use in Chinese medicine would be high
intake of omega-3 fatty acids from things like walnuts, pistachios,
cold water fish, sardines, things of that nature. There are particular
herbs that they use for this, one is clove, one is phenol. So kinda like
licorice-y clove based type of compounds seem to work really well
when it comes to kidney yang deficiencies and then raspberries
interestingly. So you can make yourself a nice sardine salad with
some raspberries and walnuts.
Actually. I was laughing at first but that sounds delicious.
Put a little dill on there. Brock’s suggestion was to probably make
yourself a sardine raspberry smoothie. In other words brainworks.
There you go.
That way you don’t choke.
Everything goes into the blender. So those are some of the things that
I would do.
Hey Ben, this is Troy from Jacksonville. I just wanted to know what is
the best pre-imposed stretch exercises for maximum flexibility while
cycling. Love the podcast. Thanks for everything.
If I’m not mistaken, Troy asked this question on Facebook and we
steered him to do it in the podcast because it’s a good question.
It is and I think it’s a question that I used to be....
A pretty good one.
Pretty confused about too. I used to think that tight hamstrings and
you know, doing all these low back stretches is really gonna make me
a better, faster cyclist or reduce back pain on the bike, that type of
thing, and I was totally thinking wrong because when you’re
stretching your hamstrings and you’re stretching your calves, and
you’re stretching your low back, you’re stretching all these muscles
that are kind of in almost like a stretched out, lengthened position,
when you’re sitting all day or when you’re working on a computer or
when you’re hunched over. And really, in reality, what cyclists need to
work on is opening up the body and this is an issue of strengthening
more than it is stretching. The only one single muscle that I think
cyclists really need to make sure that they stretch is the hip flexors
and even that, if you’re a person who’s not sitting all day who’s
standing, even if those aren’t super tight, you don’t need to stretch
those as much as just, you know, you make sure just open up the hips
using a few of the exercises that I’m gonna point you towards here in
a second. But when I say opening the body or strengthening the body,
the best thing that a cyclist could do would be to strengthen the
scapula by doing rows or pull-ups because cyclists tend to have
hunched shoulders in the same way that a swimmer tends to have
hunched shoulders. So that would be number 1, to do lots of pulling
because you’re in this hunched over kind of pushing position when
you’re on a bike. Second best way to open up the body, not the 2 nd
best way but the 2nd way to open up the body would be to strengthen
the glutes, strengthen the hip extensors and when you strengthen the
hip flexors, not only is that naturally stretch your hip flexors, but
you’re gonna be working in strengthening a lot of those muscles that
you’re gonna tend to use especially when you’re playing power against
the pedals anyways. Now the number 1 way that I recommend that
you strengthen your glutes or your hip muscles are these foundation
exercises in the book “Foundation” by Eric Goodman and I will link to
that book in the show notes but any cyclists, or swimmer, or runner,
worth their salt should consider doing so what I do is every other day,
I do these core foundation exercises. There’s 10 of them, it takes me
about 15 minutes. I do them when I wake up in the morning. It’s kind
of part of my deep breathing, you know, morning protocol where I
wake up, I do a little bit of journaling, I do a little bit of measurement
of my heart rate variability to see what my nervous system is like for
that day then I get out of bed and it’s before the kids are up, before
my wife is up, I go into the living room or I go outside and I either do
my morning yoga or I do my morning foundation exercises. I
alternate every other day between the 2 and combine that with deep
diaphragmatic breathing preferably nasal, really good way to start the
day and those exercises in particular, foundation exercises are really
really good for cyclists so they’re uncommon exercises, things like
sticking your butt out while you’re reaching for your arms overhead
and kinda like externally rotating your hips and gripping the ground
to your feet all at the same time. It’s a little bit intimidating when you
first get started but you have it memorized, you have your exercise
memorized within a week, that would be the top thing you could do.
Now when cyclists....
I also add that not only it’s kind of intimidating, it’s kind of hilarious
when you walk in somebody doing them. I walked in on Ben in
Whistler, Ironman Canada doing them and I was like, “woah, excuse
Especially the butt sticking up, arms up in the air one.
Yeah. There’s a lot of air humping that goes on.
Yeah. You’re like a baboon.
He was in his underwear.
He was uncomfortable.
The baboon in heat look. So you’ll go to a lot of these popular cycling
stretching websites and they’ve got the cyclist hunched over,
stretching the hamstrings, hunched over stretching the IT band.
Doing a lot of like wall-facing calves stretches and doing these
exercises that really lengthen the muscles, weaken the muscles,
stretch stuff that’s only kinda loose in cyclists and don’t really work
on putting the hips on the proper position or re-aligning the body. So
strengthen your rowing type of upper body muscles, strengthen your
butt, stretch your hip flexors, if you sit down a lot and those are the
top things that you could do when it comes to flexibility. I wouldn’t
focus more on like yoga and long stretches and pre-imposed workout
stretches as much as I would focusing on strengthening the body and
opening the body if you’re a cyclist.
Glamo. That is that. Troy’s question was our last one for the day.
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